Talk:Gallifrey

Fixed 'staster' to 'staser'.

86.136.29.133 15:22, 28 January 2007 (UTC)Ramses II

comments like that belong as a comment on the main page, once you have edited here. more involved discussions belong here, like policies in regards to this entry. --***Stardizzy*** 18:33, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

The Gallifreyan defenses seems well placed and nicely researched. I think it can stay there for now...I mean it's about Gallifrey, and we can't just have the Gallifrey page filled with links off to other more specific pages. --Tangerineduel 14:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Mountain ranges!

Re. query was "mountains of Solace and Solitude" meant to be the name of the range or that of the mountains the Citadel was set between?

Have checked the references with this clip from Sound of Drums. Seems like the Citadel is actually there: "On the continent of Wild Endeavour, in the Mountains of Solace and Solitude, there stood the Citadel of the Time Lords."

Both?

ComingStorm

I read somewhere that this refers to actual mountains, one named Solace, the other Solitude. (I bet the RTD-approved The Doctor Who Encyclopedia would have the definitive answer, though.

Baanjxx?

Isn't there a wild animal on Gallifrey known as the Baanjxx? I know it's only been mentioned in the cookbook, (Unless Drax referenced them and not the Earth slang word in "The Armageddon Factor"...), but it might be interesting to add them... 70.153.12.254 20:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

I have seen "The Armageddon Factor" many times, but I don't remember his saying any such thing.

He said something like "I reckon we're Banjaxed for sure." at the start of episode 4, though this could be a reference to the Earth slang term. [1] 70.153.12.254 03:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Transduction Barrier

Having not watched The Invasion of Time in a while, I can't verify this, but I seem to recall the Transduction Barrier working similarly to the way davros hid the 27 planets in the Medusa Cascade. It put the Gallifrey system seven seconds out of phase from the rest of the universe, rendering it inaccessible unless one were piloting a TARDIS. Anyone got a copy handy to check? Vbartilucci 15:28, 6 August 2008 (UTC)Vbartilucci

Distance to Gallifrey

Once or twice, haven't they said Gallifrey is 250 million light years away? (Definitely said that in the 1996 film and possibly somewhere in the TV series) That would put it in a different galaxy, about 100 times farther away than Andromeda. 209.195.119.97 23:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Tolkien

Is there any statement from someone involved to Tolkien being an influence, or at lest a better explanation? The way it looks now seems to be an arbitrary unbacked comment. -217.95.189.159

Updated Picture

I've updated the picture of Gallifrey, it reflects what it looks like now trapped inside the Time War.

Gallifrey in Power Rangers?

It seems so. I have proof. Tell me those aren't the coordinates for Gallifrey! (The picture does not have the entire coordinates, but the whole thing is mentioned in the episode "Green Courage" of PW: Lost Galaxy.) AJ the Shinigami 19:27, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

Those are the co-ordinates, but that's likely an in-joke rather than the actual planet. Plus, Power Rangers isn't licenced by the BBC. -- Tybort 23:03, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

Destruction

When they say it was destroyed in the Time War, which is time-locked, does that mean it's entire existence was in the time-lock and it was left there? Because that would explain why the Doctor is unable to go back even to a time before the time-war, and why the time-lords, having the ability to travel through time, did not notice that Gallifrey did not exist in their future. It's confusing though. Are the Time-Lords even able to travel to Gallifrey at a time that is not within their own timeline? Is it ever really explained?

I have a question on this as well. In the 1996 TV Movie, Gallifrey and the Time Lords still exist. But, by the time of the episode Rose, the planet and the Time Lords have been destroyed. My question is, is there anything written, (ie: novel, etc) that outlines what happened, and was it the 8th or 9th Doctor that actually destroyed everything?

--Deb1701 22:48, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

The Time War was established in the episode The End of the World (with it loosely alluded to in the previous episode Rose). Nothing's outlined the history of the Time War (or the Eighth Doctor's regeneration) in any detail; just that the Doctor ended it, and that various combatants escaped the Time Lock at various points. I'm not familiar enough with Time Lord lore to explain the "did it never exist" bit (I wouldn't assume so; no less than three races that never fought in or were otherwise effected by the war remember the Time Lords), but I think Gallifrey has its own laws on time. Also, Gallifrey HAS been destroyed in other media, though Russell T Davies specified they have nothing to do with its fall in The Last Great Time War, implying that these were undone. -- Tybort 23:03, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

I watch so many episodes and i can't find the first moment when the doctor says he destroy the whole planet... – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 79.238.222.69 (talk).

It's probably The Sound of Drums when the Tenth Doctor's on the phone with the Master about Gallifrey being gone. Dalek at least implies it in dialogue (although the Ninth Doctor also says the Daleks destroyed his home and people in that one). -- Tybort (talk page) 22:08, December 12, 2015 (UTC)

Rewrite

Because of the Timeless Child, all the Gallifrey and Timelord pages will require a massive rewrite. Trying to ignore the events of those episodes won't change the fact that they are now canon. --73.141.206.13^{talk to me} 17:49, April 16, 2020 (UTC)

No one's ignoring anything; even if we wanted to (why?), Tardis:Neutral point of view states that we hold all licensed Doctor Who story which pass the T:VS standards to be true.

But I'm unsure what more rewrites you think are needed. The Timeless Children is already mentioned in the lead of the article, and the events of Series 12 are documented extensively in the "History" section. If you are referring to the page's lack of anything much about the foundation of Time Lord society as seen in The Timeless Children, that is because this information is presented at Gallifreyan history instead, not because this Wiki fails to record it. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 17:55, April 16, 2020 (UTC)

Updated image

The recent webcast, Gallifrey War Room depicts a Gallifrey in its true location. The image used previously has worked fine, but in a normal point in time, Gallifrey wouldn't be anywhere near Earth.

I figure this image would be as good as any, if anyone could perhaps find a higher resolution version?

Toy Story Fan 21:58, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

I don't know. It's a fair suggestion, but this image is very dark, the lighting very stark — in thumbnail, it looks more like a white moon-like crescent than like a circular, reddish planet. At the absolute least, we would need a closer crop on Gallifrey itself. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 22:00, 19 February 2022 (UTC)

I have to agree. It's just not as distinct an image as the one from The End of Time. Between The End of Time and The Day of the Doctor, the two stories which come to mind for clearly presenting the image of Gallifrey, we don't really get a "normal day", if you see what I mean.

There might well be comics which show Gallifrey even clearer than TEOT, and in its proper position. If one of those can maybe be found, we'd have a good T:GTI candidate, and we could come back to this.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 22:55, 19 February 2022 (UTC)