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I'd go with the later (plot device). Otherwise, we have to assume the writers hate religion. But that's Doctor Who for you - when something keeps recurring, it means something. in Doctor Who, there truly is no such thing as coincidence - everything has some meaning to the storyline of a to-be finale. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 16:19, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
I'd go with the later (plot device). Otherwise, we have to assume the writers hate religion. But that's Doctor Who for you - when something keeps recurring, it means something. in Doctor Who, there truly is no such thing as coincidence - everything has some meaning to the storyline of a to-be finale. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 16:19, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
Cool theory but I'd like the dust to settle on the Devil for a long long time before he returns. I just really hope it's a new villain to look forward to in the future of Doctor Who, Steven Moffat has the mind to create a good one so who knows. [[User:Michael Downey|Michael Downey]] 16:32, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

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This is a list of all episode names, writers and directors and part summary plots:

  1. The Eleventh Hour written by Steven Moffat and directed by Adam Smith
  2. Lightning of the Valcoon written by Steven Moffat and directed by Andrew Gunn
  3. Wrong War written by Mark Gatiss and directed by Andrew Gunn
    (Features Daleks and Winston Churchill in World War 2)
  4. Time of Angels written by Steven Moffat and directed by Adam Smith
  5. Flesh and Stone written by Steven Moffat and directed by Adam Smith
    (Both features River Song and the Weeping Angels)
  6. Vampires of Venice written by Toby Whithouse and directed by Jonny Campbell
    (Features Vampires in Tudor dress)
  7. Circus of Nightmares written by Simon Nye and directed by ?
  8. Heat Wave written by Chris Chibnall and directed by Ashley Way
  9. Cold Blood written by Chris Chibnall and directed by Ashley Way
    (Both features armed reptilian creatures)
  10. Vincent and the Doctor written by Richard Curtis and directed by Jonny Campbell
    (Features Vincent van Gogh stabbing a yellow monster)
  11. The Robot Revolution written by Gareth Roberts and directed by ?
    (Features Robots taking over Japan in the future)
  12. The Broken Plan written by Steven Moffat and directed by Euros Lynn
  13. The Heart of Darkness written by Steven Moffat and directed by Euros Lynn

Michael Downey 20:36, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

(Please sign your posts or they will be deleted) Michael Downey 22:08, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

The incorrect grammar in "Circus of Nightmare's", "Vampire's of Venice", unusual phrasing of "The Helping of War" and lack of an appearance in a Google search suggests a generous helping of salt should be taken. However, I live to be proven wrong! Cannon881 22:12, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

They are the titles just spelt wrong by me soz lol and I don't know about the helping of war lol the correct one is now aboveMichael Downey 22:17, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Can you source these? They seem promising :) Haven't got DWM in a few months if it's them :P Cannon881 22:26, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

No I can't source them but I do believe them as I got them from a blog website months back and have only published them now because most of them come true so I trust and presume the other information will be true. Michael Downey 23:16, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I have a source which mostly agrees with Downeys episode ideas. The source is: http://lifetheuniverseandcombom.blogspot.com/2009/11/doctor-who-series-5-episode-titles.html Matta jr 01:12, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, those 6 working titles have circulated for a while. Not the other 7, though. -- Noneofyourbusiness 13:57, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Most of the titles that were announced before turned out true, no doubt that these won't, either. The Heart of Darkness, aye? I remember a line from one of the Doctor's dakrest enemies that almost mimiced the name of the series 5 finale. It's going to be interesting to see what the heart of darkness refers to, though I have an opinion. Delton Menace 14:48, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Share your opinion Delton Menace. Michael Downey 14:52, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, I'm only basing it on a recurring theme of 666 (similar to how Bad Wolf kept appearing the last four series) and a quite that is very similar the the finale title: "I am the heart that beats in the darkness" (stated by the Beast) and "The Heart of Darkness". The only thing I could imagine by called The Heart of Darkness is him. I mean, that's what he is. The heart that beats in the darkness, as he said so himself. So I believe the episode title is refering to him.

Plus, since Moffat is known to write dark stories, it fits. I could easily imagine that Moffat would write a story about Satan (he did it once before where a being claimed to be Satan) for his finale. I mean, why not? Personal theroy: the series 5 finale will feature the Beast, being a darker season and the episode title being similar to his self-quote.

Some people hear despise me for thinking the Beast will ever return (maybe I sound Satanic?), but he doesn't seem liuke the type of enemy that would be killed off forever. Even the Doctor was unaware if he actually got rid of him - just stating that he presumed it was beaten. People evidence against me is that he was a one-off enemy, meaning he can't return.

But we all remember Baf Wolf, Torchwood, Vote Saxon, and the dissapearing bees, right? Then why dismiss how 666 has appeared in many episodes spanning from series 1 all the way to Planet of the Dead, and then the mention a demon in The End of Time, an event involving a demon and the Doctor, an event that hasn't happened yet on-screen. There are two assumtions: the writers are are trying to piss off relgious people by putting the Beast's number in every series revived of Doctor Who to date in lots of different episodes (the exact same they did with Bad Wolf, Torchwood, Vote Saxon, ect..), or it is a hidden plot device concerning a future finale featuring the Beast, presumably the series 5 finale: The Heart of Darkness.

I'd go with the later (plot device). Otherwise, we have to assume the writers hate religion. But that's Doctor Who for you - when something keeps recurring, it means something. in Doctor Who, there truly is no such thing as coincidence - everything has some meaning to the storyline of a to-be finale. Delton Menace 16:19, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Cool theory but I'd like the dust to settle on the Devil for a long long time before he returns. I just really hope it's a new villain to look forward to in the future of Doctor Who, Steven Moffat has the mind to create a good one so who knows. Michael Downey 16:32, January 17, 2010 (UTC)