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Whilst her mother was teaching her to play the [[recorder]], ([[TV]]: {{cs|The Giggle (TV story)}}) she came out as transgender and non-binary, choosing the name of "Rose" for herself. ([[TV]]: {{cs|The Star Beast (TV story)}}) There were school bullies who would harass her by continuing to use her deadname, which tended to annoy Donna, who was highly supportive of her daughter. Rose's transitioning involved years of [[therapist]]s, [[surgery|doctor]]s, [[voice lessons]], [[hormone treatment]]s and, for her loved ones, learning [[pronoun]]s. ([[PROSE]]: {{cs|The Star Beast (novelisation)}})
Whilst her mother was teaching her to play the [[recorder]], ([[TV]]: {{cs|The Giggle (TV story)}}) she came out as transgender and non-binary, choosing the name of "Rose" for herself. ([[TV]]: {{cs|The Star Beast (TV story)}}) There were school bullies who would harass her by continuing to use her deadname, which tended to annoy Donna, who was highly supportive of her daughter. Rose's transitioning involved years of [[therapist]]s, [[surgery|doctor]]s, [[voice lessons]], [[hormone treatment]]s and, for her loved ones, learning [[pronoun]]s. ([[PROSE]]: {{cs|The Star Beast (novelisation)}})


Rose inherited part of the "[[the DoctorDonna|DoctorDonna]]" [[Human-Time Lord Meta-Crisis]] from her mother, including some of Donna's memories of her adventures with the [[Tenth Doctor]]. This subconsciously influenced her [[Rose Tyler|choice in name]], her building the shed as a replica of the TARDIS and toys that she created based on creatures that her mother had encountered, including [[Bronze Dalek|Daleks]], [[Weapons-grade Cyberman|Cybermen]], [[Judoon]], [[Lupari]], [[Ood]], and [[Adipose]]. She sold these through an online business, with [[Woman (The Star Beast)|one customer]] as far away as [[Abu Dhabi]]. ([[TV]]: {{cs|The Star Beast (TV story)}}) She also appeared to be [[vegan]]. ([[TV]]: {{cs|The Giggle (TV story)}}, [[PROSE]]: {{cs|The Giggle (novelisation)}}) According to Donna, Rose was a terrible actor, but Donna doesn't know how to tell her. She warned the Doctor against attending her school plays because of this. ([[TV]]: {{cs|The Star Beast (TV story)}})
Rose inherited part of the "[[the DoctorDonna|DoctorDonna]]" [[Human-Time Lord Meta-Crisis]] from her mother, including some of Donna's memories of her adventures with the [[Tenth Doctor]]. This subconsciously influenced her [[Rose Tyler|choice in name]], her building the shed as a replica of the TARDIS and toys that she created based on creatures that her mother had encountered, including [[Bronze Dalek|Daleks]], [[Weapons-grade Cyberman|Cybermen]], [[Judoon]], [[Lupari]], [[Ood]], and [[Adipose]]. She sold these through an online business, with [[Woman (The Star Beast)|one customer]] as far away as [[Abu Dhabi]]. ([[TV]]: {{cs|The Star Beast (TV story)}}) She also appeared to be [[vegan]]. ([[TV]]: {{cs|The Giggle (TV story)}}, [[PROSE]]: {{cs|The Giggle (novelisation)}}) Rose also acted in her school play in [[2023]] but, according to Donna, she acted terribly. ([[TV]]: {{cs|The Star Beast (TV story)}})


=== Meeting the Doctor ===
=== Meeting the Doctor ===

Revision as of 00:36, 15 January 2024

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Rose Noble was the daughter of Donna Noble and Shaun Temple. She was transgender, specifically non-binary and female-presenting, and often felt like an outsider, leading her to easily sympathise with the Meep, an alien fleeing from another world.

In fact, however, her lifelong feeling that she was "from a different planet" was actually explained in part by the Human-Time Lord Meta-Crisis which she had inherited from her mother's suppressed DoctorDonna persona. Though it shaped her personality as she grew up, notably influencing her choice of name, she was ultimately glad to let this "power" go when she had to give it up to save her own life, grateful to get to be her true, unadulterated self at last.

Biography

Early life

Following Donna Noble and Shaun Temple's wedding in Spring 2010, (TV: The End of Time (part two) [+]Loading...{"part":"Two","1":"The End of Time (TV story)"}) Rose was assigned male at birth and given the name of Jason, as well as her mother's surname, as Donna didn't like that "Noble-Temple" sounded like an "old ruin". (TV: The Star Beast [+]Loading...["The Star Beast (TV story)"])

Whilst her mother was teaching her to play the recorder, (TV: The Giggle [+]Loading...["The Giggle (TV story)"]) she came out as transgender and non-binary, choosing the name of "Rose" for herself. (TV: The Star Beast [+]Loading...["The Star Beast (TV story)"]) There were school bullies who would harass her by continuing to use her deadname, which tended to annoy Donna, who was highly supportive of her daughter. Rose's transitioning involved years of therapists, doctors, voice lessons, hormone treatments and, for her loved ones, learning pronouns. (PROSE: The Star Beast [+]Loading...["The Star Beast (novelisation)"])

Rose inherited part of the "DoctorDonna" Human-Time Lord Meta-Crisis from her mother, including some of Donna's memories of her adventures with the Tenth Doctor. This subconsciously influenced her choice in name, her building the shed as a replica of the TARDIS and toys that she created based on creatures that her mother had encountered, including Daleks, Cybermen, Judoon, Lupari, Ood, and Adipose. She sold these through an online business, with one customer as far away as Abu Dhabi. (TV: The Star Beast [+]Loading...["The Star Beast (TV story)"]) She also appeared to be vegan. (TV: The Giggle [+]Loading...["The Giggle (TV story)"], PROSE: The Giggle [+]Loading...["The Giggle (novelisation)"]) Rose also acted in her school play in 2023 but, according to Donna, she acted terribly. (TV: The Star Beast [+]Loading...["The Star Beast (TV story)"])

Meeting the Doctor

Rose Noble and her mother, Donna. (TV: The Star Beast [+]Loading...["The Star Beast (TV story)"])

In 2023, Rose's life changed (PROSE: We Are Family [+]Loading...{"page":"35","1":"We Are Family (short story)"}) when she and her mother met the Doctor in his fourteenth incarnation, just before a spaceship came crashing through the sky. Shortly after returning home, Rose stumbled across the Meep, who asked for her to save it from monsters. Rose attempted to hide the Meep at home, but it was found by Donna. Shortly afterwards, the Doctor helped Rose and her family escape with the Meep. However, it transpired that the Meep was in reality a galactic war criminal, and it took them prisoner, declaring its intention to destroy London in order to help its ship take-off.

When the Doctor was forced to restore Donna's memories in order to defeat the Meep, the meta-crisis that Rose inherited also awakened, giving her the knowledge to free the brainwashed UNIT soldiers from the Meep's control. After the crisis was averted, Rose and her mother were able to safely expel the meta-crisis from their bodies by "letting it go". She later watched as the TARDIS spiralled out of control, taking the Doctor and Donna elsewhere. (TV: The Star Beast [+]Loading...["The Star Beast (TV story)"])

When the Toymaker used his powers to turn the world mad, Rose, Sylvia and Shaun "bunkered down" while Wilf kept a watchful eye out for the return of the Doctor and Donna. (TV: Wild Blue Yonder [+]Loading...["Wild Blue Yonder (TV story)"]) She remained in hiding from the chaos until the Doctor and his successive incarnation defeated the entity. (TV: The Giggle [+]Loading...["The Giggle (TV story)"])

Living with the Doctor

Following the Doctor's bi-generation, a retired Fourteenth Doctor returned to the Noble household to live out an ordinary life with them. Without telling Donna, he secretly took Rose on a trip in the TARDIS, to Mars. Rose happily regarded the Doctor as her uncle during a family dinner. (TV: The Giggle [+]Loading...["The Giggle (TV story)"]) According to one account, Rose was around sixteen years old at this point. (PROSE: The Giggle [+]Loading...["The Giggle (novelisation)"])

Behind the scenes

On 16 May 2022, Yasmin Finney teased her involvement in the 2023 specials with an Instagram post containing a rose and a blue diamond.[1] It was officially announced on doctorwho.tv by the BBC shortly after that Finney would be playing a character by the name of Rose.[2] Finney — a transgender actor herself — confirmed that her character would also be trans,[3] saying that Rose was a 15-year-old transgender girl with "a great supportive family".[4] On 30 August, the Doctor Who social medias revealed in a post on Finney's birthday the full name of her character, Rose Noble, confirming that the character is the daughter of Donna Noble and Shaun Temple.[5]

Age

In interviews, Rose was stated to be fifteen years old during the events of the 2023-set The Star Beast [+]Loading...["The Star Beast (TV story)"], a revelation that creates contradictions for the show's timeline, not the least because The Star Beast is also stated in dialogue to be fifteen years after Journey's End [+]Loading...["Journey's End (TV story)"], before her parents could have actually met.[nb 1]

Russell T Davies has directly acknowledged this discrepancy, explaining that he chose to "fudge the years" with Donna to accommodate for the casting of the then-eighteen-year-old Finney in the role, before going on to jokingly give an in-universe explanation;

But you mustn’t forget, uh, that time cloud that descended on Camden in 2017 and dislocated everyone by exactly eight months and three days. We’ll tell that story one day. I will come to that in Series Seven.'Tête-à-Tate, DWM 597

Neither The Star Beast nor The Giggle [+]Loading...["The Giggle (TV story)"]'s broadcast versions give Rose a specific age, although she is unambiguously school-aged. However, the novelisation of The Giggle states her age to be 16.

Footnotes

Notes

  1. Other sources, including the BBC New Series Adventures novel Beautiful Chaos also place Journey's End in approximately late June 2009, six weeks after much of the story's supposed mid-May 2009 setting.

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