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==Definition==
==Definition==
Fixed points were events and/or individuals who have such a long-standing impact on the [[timeline]] that no one, not even [[Time Lord]]s, were allowed to interfere with their natural progression. [[The Doctor]], while free to interfere in [[alien]] invasions and save [[planet]]s in most cases, could not interfere/interact with these fixed points.
Fixed points were events and/or individuals who have such a long-standing impact on the [[timeline]] that no one, not even [[Time Lord]]s, were allowed to interfere with their natural progression. [[The Doctor]], while free to interfere in [[alien]] invasions and save [[planet]]s in most cases, could not interfere/interact with these fixed points.
The opposite of fixed points was time being in flux. At these points time could change completely. It is unknown what happens to fixed points if the future is changed while time is in flux.


==Notable fixed points==
==Notable fixed points==
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The death of the Doctor himself, in his [[Eleventh Doctor|eleventh incarnation]], was a fixed point in time; the Doctor was killed in [[Utah]], at [[Lake Silencio]], on [[22nd April]], [[2011]], at 5:02pm. ([[DW]]: ''[[Let's Kill Hitler]]'')
The death of the Doctor himself, in his [[Eleventh Doctor|eleventh incarnation]], was a fixed point in time; the Doctor was killed in [[Utah]], at [[Lake Silencio]], on [[22nd April]], [[2011]], at 5:02pm. ([[DW]]: ''[[Let's Kill Hitler]]'')


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==Time in flux==
 
The opposite of fixed points was time being in flux. At these points time could change completely.


{{merge|Fixed points in Time|"Flux points in time" isn't a phrase that's ever uttered in the DWU.  This is just us making up a name.  All this info should just be in an a section on [[fixed points in time]] so as to help better explain ''that'' topic.}}
:''It is unknown what happens to fixed points if the future is changed while time is in flux.''
{{conjecture||"Flux points in time" isn't a phrase that's ever uttered in the DWU.}}
'''Flux points in Time''' were all small points in time at which events could be changed.


==Definition==
Flux points were insignificant events that could be altered with no consequence. Due to this, [[the Doctor]] normally meddled at these points in time. ([[DW]]: ''[[The Christmas Invasion]]'', [[NSA]]: ''[[I am a Dalek]]'') When the [[Tenth Doctor]] first met [[Martha Jones]], he told her that 'Crossing into established events is strictly forbidden ... except for cheap tricks.'. ([[DW]]: ''[[Smith and Jones]]'')
Flux points were insignificant events that could be altered with no consequence. Due to this, [[the Doctor]] normally meddled with flux points in time. ([[DW]]: ''[[The Christmas Invasion]]'', [[NSA]]: ''[[I am a Dalek]]'') When [[Tenth Doctor|the Doctor]] first met [[Martha Jones]], he told her that 'Crossing into established events is strictly forbidden ... except for cheap tricks.'. ([[DW]]: ''[[Smith and Jones]]'')


==Altering flux points==
===Fluxing points===
[[1969]] was in flux, as discovered by [[First Doctor|the Doctor]] when it was revealed that [[WOTAN]] was supposed to conquer [[Earth]] ([[PDA]]: ''[[The Time Travellers]]'') instead of being defeated by the Doctor. ([[DW]]: ''[[The War Machines]]'')
*[[1969]] was in flux, as discovered by [[First Doctor|the Doctor]] when it was revealed that [[WOTAN]] was supposed to conquer [[Earth]] ([[PDA]]: ''[[The Time Travellers]]'') instead of being defeated by the Doctor. ([[DW]]: ''[[The War Machines]]'')


[[Sarah Jane Smith]] was shown an alternative timeline by [[Fourth Doctor|the Doctor]], explaining how [[1911]] was now in flux because of the threat of [[Sutekh]]. ([[DW]]: ''[[Pyramids of Mars]]'')
*[[Sarah Jane Smith]] was shown an alternative timeline by [[Fourth Doctor|the Doctor]], explaining how [[1911]] was now in flux because of the threat of [[Sutekh]]. ([[DW]]: ''[[Pyramids of Mars]]'')


As [[Ninth Doctor|the Doctor]] explained to [[Rose Tyler]], when she said that he couldn't give dead [[Human]] corpses to the [[Gelth]], as she knew for a fact that dead bodies weren't walking around in [[1869]], time was in flux, changing every second and her "cosy little world can be rewritten like that". ([[DW]]: ''[[The Unquiet Dead]]'')
*As [[Ninth Doctor|the Doctor]] explained to [[Rose Tyler]], when she said that he couldn't give dead [[Human]] corpses to the [[Gelth]], as she knew for a fact that dead bodies weren't walking around in [[1869]], time was in flux, changing every second and her "cosy little world can be rewritten like that". ([[DW]]: ''[[The Unquiet Dead]]'')


Although the Doctor noted to Rose that [[Harriet Jones]] would serve three successive terms as [[British Prime Minister]], he himself would later, in his [[Tenth Doctor|next incarnation]], cause her political downfall, leading to her losing the title of Prime Minister to [[Harold Saxon]]. ([[DW]]: ''[[The Sound of Drums]]'') She would later die the [[2009|following year]] at the hands of the [[Dalek]]s during their [[Dalek Invasion of Earth (2009)|invasion of Earth]]. ([[DW]]: ''[[The Stolen Earth]]'')
*Although the Doctor noted to Rose that [[Harriet Jones]] would serve three successive terms as [[British Prime Minister]], he himself would later, in his [[Tenth Doctor|next incarnation]], cause her political downfall, leading to her losing the title of Prime Minister to [[Harold Saxon]]. ([[DW]]: ''[[The Sound of Drums]]'') She would later die the [[2009|following year]] at the hands of the [[Dalek]]s during their [[Dalek Invasion of Earth (2009)|invasion of Earth]]. ([[DW]]: ''[[The Stolen Earth]]'')


After they saw [[Frank Openshaw]] exterminated by a Dalek, Rose Tyler and the Doctor meddled in history for him so that he met his wife Sandra years earlier than in the original timeline. ([[NSA]]: ''[[I am a Dalek]]'')
*After they saw [[Frank Openshaw]] exterminated by a Dalek, Rose Tyler and the Doctor meddled in history for him so that he met his wife Sandra years earlier than in the original timeline. ([[NSA]]: ''[[I am a Dalek]]'')


In [[2020]], when a drilling operation in [[Cwmtaff]] disturbed a [[Silurian]] civilisation, [[Eleventh Doctor|the Doctor]] told [[Amy Pond]], [[Nasreen Chaudhry]] and [[Eldane]] that this encounter could lead to either a peaceful relationship or a devastating war. The Doctor described these events as opportunities. ([[DW]]: ''[[Cold Blood]]'')
*In [[2020]], when a drilling operation in [[Cwmtaff]] disturbed a [[Silurian]] civilisation, [[Eleventh Doctor|the Doctor]] told [[Amy Pond]], [[Nasreen Chaudhry]] and [[Eldane]] that this encounter could lead to either a peaceful relationship or a devastating war. The Doctor described these events as opportunities. ([[DW]]: ''[[Cold Blood]]'')


When the [[Dalek Emperor]] and his flagship survived the end of the Time war in [[199,909]], the Daleks secretly altered the history of the [[Fourth Great and Bountiful Human Empire]], controlling it via the [[Jagrafess]]. Unlike what the Ninth Doctor remembered it to be, the Human race at its height, humanity's development was instead stunted. ([[DW]]: ''[[The Long Game]]'',''[[Bad Wolf (TV story)|Bad Wolf]]'')
*When the [[Dalek Emperor]] and his flagship survived the end of the Time war in [[199,909]], the Daleks secretly altered the history of the [[Fourth Great and Bountiful Human Empire]], controlling it via the [[Jagrafess]]. Unlike what the Ninth Doctor remembered it to be, the Human race at its height, humanity's development was instead stunted. ([[DW]]: ''[[The Long Game]]'',''[[Bad Wolf (TV story)|Bad Wolf]]'')


At one point, the [[Korven]] altered the history of Earth (which they previously invaded in [[2480]]), causing part of it to be controlled by the corrupt, totalitarian [[The Department|Department]]. ([[K9TV]]: ''[[The Eclipse of the Korven]]'')
*At one point, the [[Korven]] altered the history of Earth (which they previously invaded in [[2480]]), causing part of it to be controlled by the corrupt, totalitarian [[The Department|Department]]. ([[K9TV]]: ''[[The Eclipse of the Korven]]'')
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Fixed points in Time were points in time at which events could not change. Time Lords see this in their minds at all times and was described as 'the curse of the Time Lord' by the Doctor.

Definition

Fixed points were events and/or individuals who have such a long-standing impact on the timeline that no one, not even Time Lords, were allowed to interfere with their natural progression. The Doctor, while free to interfere in alien invasions and save planets in most cases, could not interfere/interact with these fixed points.

Notable fixed points

Jack Harkness became a fixed point in time after his rejuvenation by Rose Tyler, which also resulted in him becoming immortal. (DW: The Parting of the Ways, Utopia) Jack later lost his immortality due to the Miracle Day phenomenon but it is unknown if this meant he was no longer a fixed point. (TW: The New World)

The destruction of Pompeii by the Vesuvius volcano was a fixed point in time, caused by the Doctor. As well as its eruption, the deaths of most of the citizens of Pompeii were fixed. The Doctor, however, did save one family. (DW: The Fires of Pompeii)

The death of explorer Adelaide Brooke marks one of the few times the Doctor intentionally interfered with a fixed point, under the rationale that, as the last surviving Time Lord, the Laws of Time were his to command. Ultimately, he was unable to prevent Brooke from committing suicide, thereby allowing the timeline to unfold with only minor changes. (DW: The Waters of Mars)

The Doctor also interfered with a fixed point in time a short while before or after the previous event, by saving the life of Emily Winter, a film actress in 1920s-era Hollywood. He was put on trial by the Shadow Proclamation for this. (IDW: Fugitive)

The death of the Doctor himself, in his eleventh incarnation, was a fixed point in time; the Doctor was killed in Utah, at Lake Silencio, on 22nd April, 2011, at 5:02pm. (DW: Let's Kill Hitler)

Time in flux

The opposite of fixed points was time being in flux. At these points time could change completely.

It is unknown what happens to fixed points if the future is changed while time is in flux.

Flux points were insignificant events that could be altered with no consequence. Due to this, the Doctor normally meddled at these points in time. (DW: The Christmas Invasion, NSA: I am a Dalek) When the Tenth Doctor first met Martha Jones, he told her that 'Crossing into established events is strictly forbidden ... except for cheap tricks.'. (DW: Smith and Jones)

Fluxing points

  • As the Doctor explained to Rose Tyler, when she said that he couldn't give dead Human corpses to the Gelth, as she knew for a fact that dead bodies weren't walking around in 1869, time was in flux, changing every second and her "cosy little world can be rewritten like that". (DW: The Unquiet Dead)
  • After they saw Frank Openshaw exterminated by a Dalek, Rose Tyler and the Doctor meddled in history for him so that he met his wife Sandra years earlier than in the original timeline. (NSA: I am a Dalek)