User talk:Skittles the hog

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Just wanted to check

Hey, I just wanted to check that you're not working on a NA navbox, as I just saw the EDA (great work btw) and didn't want to start working on an NA version if you're in the process.

Also wanted to say that your re-work of the feature article policy looks to be coming along well, I seem to recall I thought of something like you've done, but I put it on the back burner mostly because at that time there would likely be objections and nothing would be done to fix the articles, so it seemed, as long as it didn't have any improvement tags that was good enough, but we really should be showcasing the best, so your process seems to be better. --Tangerineduel / talk 15:59, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Feel free to alter the Feature Article policy whatever way to accommodate your new additions. I don't think your additions are a large shift in policy, it's more a development of the "Feature Article rejection" part of the policy. Also if you follow through the policy's talk page to the forum and (through some other links), there was this page Tardis:Nominations for featured articles which was how we used to do it, until it all sort of stalled and I restarted it with the system we've got at the moment, but the nominations page was in 2008, now we've got more active users so any opposition should get the problems fixed, rather than just stagnating.

I have been around, I've just been doing shorter series of edits than I used to. I'm still on here (usually) daily. So I'll still respond to any messages within a 24 hour period. --Tangerineduel / talk 16:27, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, sorry, I do tend to ramble.

So, yes, go for it. --Tangerineduel / talk 16:36, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

I've gone through your altered policy, there's several minor things I'd change. I think (so we preserve the edit history), if you add what you've done to the policy page (and put an inuse tag on it), I'll add what I've changed and you can see the changes. --Tangerineduel / talk 17:40, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

As you can see I've changed a few things here and there.

The only thing I'm not sure about is the Ready for posting, which I made as a sub-page of the nominations, this was just in case we got a lot of feature articles that passed the policy and/or that there was a lot of discussion on the nominations page so the ready for posting page could be a clean page with just nominations and if there's a lot votes for which month they should go in. --Tangerineduel / talk 18:07, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Just wanted to know if you think it should be a subpage or part of the current page. --Tangerineduel / talk 18:20, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

...Thanks. I've rolled the edits back for now until next month's article has been voted on, as you were the driving force behind the change over. I thought you would want to oversee the changes. So I'll leave it for you to shift over when you return. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:07, July 30, 2011 (UTC)

Right...

I did not understand a word of that message. 09:06:40 Sat

TARDIS page edits

It seems user Bold Clone and I have a bit of a disagreement on how the TARDIS page should be edited. He edited sections and pics that he felt were out of place. I don't believe the edits were necessary. Truthfully, the edits he made were done more then a week ago. I just haven't had time to write to you. I talked to him about it a week or so ago and he said that only input from a moderator would be enough to sway his decision. This was a good idea and that's why I'm writing to you. I undid his edits again but only so you would have a more recent edit to make a comparision from. I'm sure he'll undo my undo all over again. Forgive my long drawn out arguments in advance. His edits include:

• Removing pic of the Console that was in the flight section of the page.

According to Bold Clone the console pic quote "Irrelevant to flight." end quote. According to him, quote " The console of the Doctor's TARDIS is completely irrelevant to the TARDIS' flight. It doesn't belong there." end quote. While I, personally, would prefer another pic of a newer version of the TARDIS' console, I disagree with him in regards to the idea that the console is irrelevant to flight. It b elongs on the TARDIS page and in the Flight section. The reason I say this is because it has been demonstrated "that all you need is a console w/ time rotor and three walls to fly through the vortex". We see this in the episode The Doctor's Wife, The Doctor's Wife is the episode where Idris and The Doctor use left over parts from cannibalized TARDISes abandoned in the Bubble universe's Junkyard to build the Junk TARDIS. With the junk TARDIS they fly to the Police Box TARDIS which had been hijacked by House. According to the junk TARDIS wikia page "'The TARDIS consisted solely of a console (with time rotor) and three walls. It lacked a proper shell, which the Doctor stated would be very dangerous to travel without." So basically I think this demonstrates that the console is key to time-space flight and that it does belong in the flight section.

• Reference to the TARDISes ability to turn invisible

Basically I posted a reference in the "Chameleon circuit" section noting the time when the TARDIS landed in the White House's Oval Office in 1969. The TARDIS was both invisible and inaudible at the time so Nixon and his staff didn't know the TARDIS was there. This happened in the first episode of series 6, The Impossible Astronaut. Bold Clone said , "Chameleon circuit: Completely irrelevant to the shapeshifting abilities of the chameleon circuit." From what I can tell the Chameleon Circuit is designed to conceal the TARDIS in order to allow it to blend into it's surroundings like a chameleon. Shapeshifting is one way it does that, invisibility is the other way, so I think it does fit under that category. He also took out a pic showing the TARDIS going from being invisible to visible in the Oval Office.

• Removed pic showing how the TARDIS is bigger on the inside then it is on the outside.

The pic was in the "Dimensionally Transcental" section of the TARDIS wikia. The pic was there awhile. It was previously reviewed by you and you didn't seem to have a problem with it, prior to it's removal. The pic was meant to illustrate how the TARDIS was bigger on the inside. Bold Clone seems to believe the pic doesn't fit on the page.MochaShakaKhan 04:19, August 2, 2011 (UTC)

Quick point: I never said that that the staff would change my opinion. I would prefer that you stop misquoting me.

A console picture is not as relevant as a picture of the TARDIS in flight. The TARDIS in flight is far better for a section about the TARDIS in flight. How many others are going to make the same connection as you did?

The Chameleon circuit does not turn the TARDIS invisible. Does the Doctor specifically say that the chameleon circuit turned the TARDIS invisible? No...

There were two pictures illustrating the TARDIS' dimensional transcendance. We only needed one. --Bold Clone 18:35, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well you said, "If you have a problem with it, talk to the staff" I came to the false conclusion that the word of an administrator would be enough to get you to stop undoing my edits. Am I wrong about that? I never said that they would change your opinion. The TARDIS isn't a big ship like the Enterprise or the Galactica. There are a few key components that make a TARDIS. One of those key components is the console. Words are great, but visual content is important too. I'm not sure about others, but when I look up a wikia I want to see what it is I'm reading about. That's why a few pics are necassary. They don't take up that much space on the page and they make all the differance.

As for the invisibility, I believe it belongs somewhere on the page. I think it belongs in the Chameleon Circuit section, but if you want, as a comprimise perhaps we can add the exert I wrote to another section other then the Chameleon Circuit section. Invisibility is a feature of the TARDIS so it does belong somewhere on the page. That's the point.

To the less technobabble savy amoung us Dimensionally Transcental might be alittle hard to wrap your head around so the pic was meant to help by showing the TARDIS from the inside out. MochaShakaKhan 19:13, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you are wrong about that. It does not matter what the Staff says; I will not change my mind.

Really, we dod not need a second picture. If I were to talk about how the Enterprise can fly through space, I would show a picture of the Enterprise flying through space, not the control room. The same sort of clear and logical thinking applies to the TARDIS in flight. I want to see that TARDIS in flight, becuase that is the best visual aid we could possibly give.

Invisibility might belong somewhere on the page, but not under the Chameleon Circuit. The Chameleon Circuit does not give invisibility.

To the less technobabble-savy, dimensionally transcental might be a little hard understand, which is why we already had a picture there in the first place. We do not need a second one. --Bold Clone 20:37, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well we resolved the issue concerning the section on invisibility and this newer issue about the main image, but there is still an issue concerning whether the pic of the console that used to be on the page belongs in the flight section. I also wanted to add a gallery to the article, but it's possible some people may have a problem with that so I'd like to know if it is OK in advance.MochaShakaKhan 19:35, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

OK, then maybe instead of including the gallery directly on the TARDIS page, perhaps I can place a link to another page on the wIkia that would be a gallery specially dedicated to TARDISes. I beleive the Marvel Comics wikia does this. I really do beleive that visual referances are just as important as "textual" ones. A picture is worth a thousand words after all. :) MochaShakaKhan 05:57, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

Featured articles

Sorry it's taken a few days to get back to you on your rejig of featured article nominations. I don't really understand your basic ruleset. When does approval happen? According to what I can figure out on your sandbox page, the answer seems to be, "When there are no remaining objections". So it's not a positive vote of "This is a great article because it adheres to points a, b and c of the (as-yet-unwritten) Tardis:Featured article policy," Rather, it's a negative vote of, "No one dis-likes the article, so we can now feature it on the main page."

I don't think that's what we want to say.

I'd recommend setting a clear standard for FA status, then finding six articles which adhere to that standard, with those six articles agreed by admin over a week long private nomination process not open to the general editing community. In other words, really truly get the six best articles on the wiki. Then, roll those six articles out over the next six months.

In the meantime, start the voting process, open to all (even unregistered) voters for January 2012. Instead of making the standard simply "all objections must be answered", make the standard, "Not only must all objections be answered, but featured articles must have a minimum of five completely positive votes."

As your ruleset currently stands, an article could be featured without even being seconded, since your main criterion is merely that no one objects to it. We need to close that loophole and give nominations a few months to gather a minimum number of votes. This is why we would build in the six months' padding — in addition to the need for admin-decided examples of excellence.

So, in summary: define a standard, pick six examples that meet that standard, open up user nominations for January 2012, and then wait (in the six months we've added to the system) for user-nominated articles to get a mere five votes. That's how I'd go.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">04:09:04 Tue 02 Aug 2011 

TARDIS main image

There is some sort of argument or discussion of what the main image for TARDIS should be. One user wants a camoflauged TARDIS. You and me know that is ridiculous, because that is not a TARDIS's true appearance. I honestly think an admin should get control of this situation. Your input is really needed. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 11:35, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Recent changes...changes

I saw your question on CzechOut's talk page and thought I'd drop you a message about them there's more information here New Tools to Start & Grow Your Wiki and there's also a discussion over on the community:admin wiki forums; Community:Admin Forum:Admin tools feedback and suggestions. --Tangerineduel / talk 15:34, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Tonight on BBC One and others

Due to a Wikia error which isn't allowing me to upload a new image of your file, I will have to upload the image as a different name. I was uploading a new image which didn't have the BBC insignia. So, please can there be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine. Hope you understand :) BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 16:16, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

DPL at London

Done.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">15:20:23 Mon 08 Aug 2011 

Your input is needed!

You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:Alienation of new and IP users. MM/Want to talk? 20:34, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Personal attack

This was in reply to User:BroadcastCorp but was removed from his page. This is here merely for future reference.

- - Right, seeing as you have decided to not only claim I'm making personal attacks, but then make comments on other users pages about me, I've decided to answer you. I asked Czech to ignore your comment as it was unjustified. This is a perfectly valid point. Here's the important part: if was a criticism, not a personal attack. Tardis:No personal attacks specifies that disagreements are not personal attacks. It also says something interesting about accusatory comments being personal attacks...

- - Now, you suggested on User talk:Tangerineduel that I had no evidence for my own claims. I did, simple as. Then you went on to simply insult me for no clear reason. I have already asked you not to attack users at this talk page and hoped there was no need to reiterate but: please do not insult other users. Hope this cleared up the situation for you :) --Skittles the hog - talk 17:27, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

Doc cats

Hey, I saw that you had put most of the docs into the 'making of' cat, but that you hadn't actually made the cat yet, by affixing it to an existing cat. I changed the name to something wordier, but more precise, Documentaries about the making of Doctor Who televised stories, and then stuck it under Doctor Who documentaries. But I don't really remember what all the other new cats were. Could you please either attach them to category:Doctor Who documentaries, or give me a list of them? We don't want to lose these categories that appear to have been made, because they have a blue-link, but actually haven't been made. Thanks.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">15:54:56 Fri 12 Aug 2011 

p.s. Why the name switch? Because there are actually other kinds of "making of" docs. Beyond the Vortex is a "making of" for the McGann/Sheridan stuff, Torchwood Declassified is a making of for Torchwood televised stories, and there's supposedly some kinda making of documentary on the K9 Series 1 DVD — just for a start. So a name was required that was specifically DW, specifically about TV stories.

Heya :) The p.s. was just meant to clarify why I changed the name of the cat from category:"Making of" documentaries. I felt it might not have been obvious why such a long name was required in replacement. I wanted to point out that there were DW documentaries, which weren't visual, and that there were visual documentaries, which weren't about DW, hence making Documentaries about the making of Doctor Who televised stories the clearest expression of the contents of the category.

As for why I was asking you for a list, rather than just relying on Special:WantedCategories, well, it's because Special:WantedCategories isn't all that reliable. First of all, it deals with cached material, so it's not up-to-date info. Also, with this godforsakenly asinine "everything with the word 'category' in front of it is a blue link" idea, the potential for "false" wanted categories is greater. For instance, you had mistakenly created category:"Making of " documentaries on one page. Because you got a blue link, you didn't notice the extraneous space you put in there between of and the closing quotation mark. So the reason for requesting you to perform the actual category creation (or to provide me with a list) was explicitly because I wanted you to take care of it, or for you to give me a list of the precise names you wanted to use. But the main reason was that I don't trust WantedCategories anymore.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">17:44:31 Sun 14 Aug 2011 

Who played...

Who played Albert Einstein in DW: Time and the Rani? Really in need of reply. As in the infobox it just says "to be added". Thanks. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 15:32, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Could you answer me please. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 16:03, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I kind of guessed you were a guy. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 16:55, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I'm feeling okay. Of course I am feeling okay. It's called a joke, that's all. Four letters. See here for more infomation: Wikipedia:Joke. You can edit it if it doesn't satisfy you. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 17:02, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

How is it a personal attack? I said it was a joke. How is it a personal attack? It's not my third one. So please can you stop it. Don't accuse users of making personal attacks. It can really upset them. :( BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 17:08, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, I didn't know. What do you think of me now then? BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 17:14, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Multiple images

There is a discussion concerning the Doctor image, but it's really in the middle of a very long discussion that you need to trawl through to find.

There should be some form of discussion on the Doctor's page about this, explaining why it was removed and maybe (somehow) summarising what we've discussed so far. We seem to have come to an agreement/lack of further discussion on the Talk:Master concerning the image, so that's something.

But if we're to address all the other articles with multiple images; Borusa, Romana, Rassilon and whomever else we're got around maybe a Forum topic would be best.

I thought that considering the length of the Talk:The Master discussion and its focus on the Master article/image that restoring the images until we had a definite answer was best, though feel free to remove the multiple images from all of the articles pending a full discussion in the forums.

If you think we need a full discussion in the forums I'll start one and point towards the Master discussion and we can go from there and work something out. Or is there enough in the Master discussion to work out a policy for the other articles? --Tangerineduel / talk 15:24, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Just wanted to apologise, I just looked at the Talk:The Doctor page and there is a discussion about the main image, or why it was removed. I didn't notice that when I restored the image. --Tangerineduel / talk 15:33, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Righty. I've removed the image from the Doctor's page and started a discussion on the talk page. --Tangerineduel / talk 15:45, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

August change of featured articles

Hey, I know you're kinda mulling over big changes to the featured article thing, but I just couldn't wait another day on the switchover. I'm so tired of seein' Amy in the Pandorica on the front page. I considered all those articles that were under discussion at the current nom page, but I ditched them for reasons stated in the revision note. Basically, all three candidates were unsuitable, so I picked another one, featuring something we've never put on the front page before: a studio. It's only for the remainder of the month, anyway. Hope you don't see this as a usurpation of whatever you got goin on with the featured article process.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">19:36:36 Thu 18 Aug 2011 

Feature article

Do you mean we (each admin) select 5 articles and suggest them and the from those 5 x (however admins we've got) we have a list of articles we think should be featured and then we have to cull those (let's say 25 articles) down to 5 that will be on the feature article page?

Or are we all meeting on a page (maybe not a forum page if it's just an admin level discussion) and then suggesting 5 articles in another method? --Tangerineduel / talk 15:25, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Yep, there's good, or you can make it a sub-page of that if we don't want anyone mistaking it for an 'everyone' discussion.

I'm mostly just getting this from what CzechOut said on your talk page. So, whatever you think is best. --Tangerineduel / talk 15:46, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Archive tool

On your user talk page, is "archive" an option that still shows up under the edit drop-down menu?
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">17:49:35 Fri 19 Aug 2011 

Stories set in the <whatever timeframe>

Thanks for helping out with the timeline stuff. However, do take care with categories about the temporal setting of stories. All of these are out of universe categories. So a category like stories set in the 1830s (an out of universe category) would not go in category:1830s (an in-universe category). Remember, since stories are out of universe, all categories about stories are also OOU. Likewise, category:stories set in the United States doesn't belong in category:United States of America, nor category:First Doctor stories in category:First Doctor. The division between OOU and IU is one of the cardinal rules of the category tree structure, violated in only a very few circumstances. Thanks :)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">22:53:58 Fri 19 Aug 2011 

The "Lets Kill Hitler" page

Dear Skittles the Hog,

Just to let you know, on the Lets Kill Hitler page it says the rumour was started by the Daily Mail, but it was started by the Daily Mirror, so you could change it.

Thanks,

Fluffbi

Your input is needed!

You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:A second look at wiki achivements.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">16:57:56 Mon 22 Aug 2011 

Steve Livesey

To Skittles the Hog. I just wanted to know why you deleted my page I set up for Steve Livesey. I cannot see any reason why, it was not offensive in any way at all. I was really proud to see my Fathers name mentioned on here. He was a brilliant artist, and I saw a link every time his name was mentioned so I started to set up a blog for him on that link, which people can do and other people have. but for some reason I am not allowed to. I would like to know why you deleted it please. There very little information on there, just the bare facts and a photo of him. What is wrong with that then? Thought it would be a nice memorial and shows respect for his artwork.

Samantha Livesey

Well I thought that him being the artist, did actually have something to do with it. why bother mentioning his name and putting a link page on his name then at all ? its seems very petty. all I wanted to do was make sure he got recognition. perhaps someone could have had the decency to contact me about it. instead of just deleting it? That would be too courteous when it can simply be deleted. it was hardly offensive and I cannot imagine what silly rules you have on here that make it a case of breaking regulations. honestly that is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard.

Cool Image

For your user! I talked to you on chat and want a badge so I am messaging you!– The preceding unsigned comment was added by Doctorwhovian (talk • contribs) .

Good Job

Contragulations for being #1 on this WIKI! You are definetly one of this wiki's best users.– The preceding unsigned comment was added by OttselSpy25 (talk • contribs) .

Spacesuit vs spacesuit

Has it been made clear to me? Well, that's debatable. But back to the subject, why shouldn't it be capitalized? This is how we differentiate it from the other incarnations, so it ought to be capitilized as this is how we know who she is. As you've hated my actions, you took the easy way out, you locked the page. I would have done the same thing if I were an admin. So, back to the subject, we need the "s" to be "S", this is how we contrast her from the other selfs. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 17:44, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

DWM issues

Yep. That sounds like a good idea, as at the moment the category is fairly unruly and long. --Tangerineduel / talk 08:10, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

DWM categories

Ah... --Revan\Talk 12:48, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Deny what? ;-) --Revan\Talk 13:04, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Chat problems

Im sorry but i haven't left once all day on my screen you have been leaving and coming back its a just a wierd chat problem.{{SUBST:User:Clone gunner comanda jedi/sig}}

Great Admin

Just to say that you are a great admin.– The preceding unsigned comment was added by Doctorpenguin (talk • contribs) .

Category: Stories without Aliens

Just wondering why you deleted this page. Aliyoda 08:38, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

OK, thanks, didn't realise that I should've started a forum about it. I'm not too bothered either way if the page exists or not, just thought it'd be an interesting category to have.

Aliyoda 08:49, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Get creative

My final warning? Since when was this a warning. You told me to get creative. I got creative. Yes, I upload duplicates, but that wasn't on purpose, it was because the re-uploader didn't work. You can delete all the duplicates, I will be very grateful. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 07:32, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

How do you know I deliberatly uploaded duplicates? Are you me? Do you know what I am thinking every minute? That, if you didn't know, was rhetorical, and the answer is: no. I have got creative, my images are not low-quality, and I do have knowledge about the character. Full stop. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 07:38, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

I've removed the image. Settle this on the talk page. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 07:45, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, personal attack made

I am extremely sorry if I made a personal attack on you. You are a brilliant user, and I do not think negatively of you. Please forgive me for my wrong-doing. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 08:54, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Block?

You want me blocked, don't you? Why is this? I am extremely very sorry. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 09:12, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Thank-you for reassuring me. I now breathe a sigh of relief. :) BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 09:16, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

What?! Look I'm sorry. I'm taking the image down so we can settle this on the talk page, how about that? BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 09:09, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Badge issue

Today was my fifth consecutive day for the "edit five days concecutively" badge, and I made about 3-4 edits and was even able to earn the "Third Doctor compic stip" badge, and nothing counted towards this day. I've logged out and logged back in and it didn't count it. I'm afraid it will reset. As an administrator, can you please see if there's a bug connected to it? Thanks, Glimmer721 22:04, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Update: nothing has counted towards my edit count for the 50 edits badge, either. It is stuck at 43. Both of these medals are silver; I'm not sure if that matters Glimmer721 22:07, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Good point, there's probably a time-change thing and I could still be on yesterday. It probably won't change for a few hours. The 50 one just moved up, but it had been stuck for a while. Thanks. Glimmer721 22:14, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Mammals

OK, will do... I am rufus 08:11, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Got anything to say?

Have you? For messing up my talk page on Doctor Who Answers. Why did you mess it up and mvoe the page to some nonsense? BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 09:15, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

BroadcastCorp

I won't be reinstating him. And I've unblocked you and all the other users that were wrongly blocked. Thanks for letting me know. I usually just pop into the answers now and then, so it's hard to find someone that'll do a good job. The Thirteenth Doctor 17:45, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

River Song

Recently a source was added to the page "River Song" for the Little Girl in the Impossible Astronaut being River, as discussed on River Song's Talk page. I was just wondering why this has been removed? Aliyoda 12:15, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Why are you undoing all my edits?

Why are you undoing all my edits? I'm referring specifically to the ones where I added various Doctors to the category "Individual Time Lords". Every other Time Lord with pages for different incarnations is in this category, so why should the Doctor be any different? I'd be grateful if you could tell me why you're undoing all of these rather than just reverting them without explanation. Aliyoda 14:15, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Just to add, I commented on the Individual Time Lords talk page saying something similar to the above, and there were no objections. Aliyoda 14:18, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Could you please let me know? If I've gone against policy, I've done it unknowingly, and not telling me is only going to make it more likely that I inadvertently do so again. I am making edits to this wiki in good faith, so please give me a reason for why you've undone my work. Just undoing edits without giving a reason doesn't help anyone.

Sorry for repeatedly messaging, just letting you know you don't have to bother getting back to me anymore, another admin has explained it to me. Aliyoda 11:31, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

If you're going to continue to undo my edits will you please provide a reason in the edit summary? When clicking "undo" the message "If you are undoing an edit that is not vandalism, explain the reason in the edit summary rather than using only the default message." is shown. You are not doing this. Aliyoda 17:52, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

My last edit you undid was not speculation, but a fact that has in-universe proof. In the Eight Doctors, the UNIT Years Master regenerates into the Tersurus Master. In the Keeper of Traken, the Tersurus Master is revealed to be the 13th. Therefore, the UNIT Years Master is the 12th.

Also, what is the purpose of the rollback tool? From what I can see, all it does is allows edits to be undone without a reason, which is very unhelpful.

Aliyoda 18:02, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

In regards to the "tidying up" on the Master (UNIT Years) page, from what I read the "Escape to Tersurus" section seemed to be saying the same thing multiple times. As I see it, all it needs to say is that Goth arrived on Tersurus to track down a TARDIS, and that the Master had regenerated into an emaciated corpse. Currently, there are about three separate statements saying this last thing. By all means, if you think it's better how it is, leave it like that, I was only trying to make it clearer.

Aliyoda 18:06, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

eh?

yeah man I did read the guidelines - but the line I'm talking about is specific to the episode, and I was trying to justify why it should be covered in the continuity section for the episode or somewhere like that. The same two lines used in episodes not that far apart would suggest a potential linked interest for the reader and can't be a coincidence - not when it's a concept mentioned so often in the recent history of the show, including one's with Moffat involvement. I'm guessing if you'd have read my comment you would have seen that (surely you couldn't have done in that short period of time - I wanted to make more clear why a small point could be made in the article and how it was justified in terms of article write ups - went to edit it within seconds of posting it had disappeared!).

What gives? if you don't want article input, why not just go and write articles on episodes on a blog or something rather than call it a Wiki when really it isn't if so constricted.... I'm going to gb2 en:wiki I think and improve their episode articles instead seen as you're not willing to even accept some input on stuff for article inclusion.. ta ta! 92.19.155.203 21:01, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

First Doctor Myths and Discrepancies

Considering the paragraph I edited begins with "This incarnation of the Doctor seemed unfamiliar with the Daleks..." I think the Eleventh Doctor's reference to the Emperor Dalek's New Clothes wasn't a "minor point" at all. It's certainly less tenuous than what was left in. Zerinza 19:03, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

The Master UNIT years merged

Hey, I've merged The Master (Tersurus) with The Master (UNIT years), but I've left it mostly unmerged as you mentioned in chat yesterday that you were working on a merged form, the Tersurus article is at the bottom of the article. --Tangerineduel / talk 15:09, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Double Categories (Torchwood)

After what has been explained to me about how pages should not be put in category "B" if they're already in category "A" which is a sub-category of B, I was looking at the Torchwood articles, and noticed that every single episode is in the category "Series # (Torchwood)" but also in the category "Torchwood television stories". All the "Series # (Torchwood)" categories are sub-categories of "Torchwood television stories" (and rightly so).

So from my understanding, the individual articles should 'not' be categorised under "Torchwood television stories" as they are already there under "Series # (Torchwood)". I decided against remedying this myself though, as since this was the case for all 40-odd episodes I thought there may be a reason (unknown to me) for it.

I mentioned this on the Talk Page (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category_talk:Series_4_(Torchwood)_stories), but this is now miles down the recent wiki activity page and it doesn't seem to be a page that many people would visit, so it seems unlikely that anyone would see my comment for a considerable while.

I thought I'd let you know as you have far more understanding of this than I do. I'd appreciate it if you could get back to me at some point (no rush) and let me know whether this should remain as is (and if so why) or if it should be sorted.

Thanks, Aliyoda 15:40, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Ok, that makes sense. The only other kinds I've noticed are:

1) Pages categorised under (e.g.) "Human students" and also "Students".

I removed the "Student" category as it was already there under "Human students".

2) Pages categorised under (e.g.) "Stories set in the 1990s" and "Stories set in 1994".

I removed the "Stories set in the 1990s" category as it was already there under "Stories set in 1994".

3) Pages categorised under (e.g.) "Stories set in London" and "Stories set in England".

I was about to remove "Stories set in England" because it was already there under "Stories set in London".

Is there a reason for any of these, or is it ok to go ahead sorting them?

Aliyoda 15:52, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, me again. About what you said about the Torchwood pages being part of the category to enable achievements; there is also an achievement set for editing "Individual Time Lord" pages. Should the Doctor page(s) not then be placed directly into this category for achievement to work?

Aliyoda 18:51, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Forum fault

Oh, I'm experiencing more than that. It's related to another fault I'm experiencing when clicking on a red-linked category and trying to add it to another category. Get exactly the same behavior. I've reported both and am in active communication with Sarah Manley, a staff member whose been following the problem with me all day. They are actively working the problem. In the meantime, all I can tell you is that monobook is largely working :)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">19:53:07 Fri 09 Sep 2011 

Your comments have been added to the ongoing bug investigation. It's interesting that it's happening in The Howling, too, as that's another namespace entirely, and one that doesn't exist on most wikis. We'll just have to see what Wikia make of it.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">20:19:02 Fri 09 Sep 2011 

Admin Please

Hello Skittles :), I have been thinking this for a long time and I was wanting to ask if I could be an admin, I'll do my best, I'll block users who bring vandilisim to the wiki or do anything bad and I'll help do pages. Please :)

Thank you

MEGAKID III, Your helper 20:21, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Re: Admin Please

OK, that will be in February 2012, Thank you :)

MEGAKID III, Your helper 20:31, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Interface > Interface (short story)

Done. But I dunno what you were going to do with Interface after the move. It is currently deleted.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">23:06:58 Sat 10 Sep 2011 

BroadcastCorp?

What d'you mean? I'm not him! What makes you think that? DomeSeven 11:27, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. It's strange. So you're saying that the person who sold me their computer on eBay is user:BroadcastCorp. Interesting. Oh and just to tell you, I'm not that frequent. I'm not at this wiki all the time. I do other stuff. DomeSeven 11:33, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'm still not buying it. It's just a coincidence. Have you seen me in person? DomeSeven 11:52, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

You are a very patronising user. But I just ignore people like that. They're nothing. DomeSeven 11:55, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, perhaps I didn't buy it off him. That was just for emphasis. I know user:BroadcastCorp, used to be best buds for a while. Then he just left. Don't believe me? Fine. It seems just like yesterday when I hit the block button? Who cares? That's history. And again, you don't believe me. I'm telling you the truth. Don't believe me? Fine. Don't. But I am telling the truth. DomeSeven 12:09, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Making a category

I have repeatedly tried to make category:game consoles but every time I hit publish I end up looking at a search page. --Nyktimos 20:19, September 11, 2011 (UTC)

Uncategorized files

The licensing of all images in Special:UncategorizedFiles has been completed. To the extent that there are images left there, they are most likely simply waiting for a cache update to whisk them off the page. By no later than Wednesday the caching will have cleared away any remaining stragglers.

I have taken some time to manually (well, semi-automatically, let's say) affix the proper licenses to a great many of the pictures that used to be there. From Wednesday forward, all pictures discovered in UncatFiles will be subject to completely automatic deletion. A number of warnings have been placed on the wiki to this effect. You may direct users to Help:Files should they come to you with the question, "What happened to my file?"

I plan to implement an automatic run more or less when I feel like, but on a weekly basis when any of our shows are in season; at least monthly when not.

user:Doctor Who 63, far and away the biggest offender, has now been put on what I would call a "final warning". If he uploads even a single new picture without a license, there are certainly adequate grounds to block him. I would suggest a block of no more than a week at first, just to let him or her that we are completely serious about needing image licenses. His latest offense comes from 4 September, well and truly after two or three warnings from TD. If he had ever acknowledged TD in the past, to let us know that he was having problems understanding what to do, the case would probably be different. As he's been asked several times, and yet continues to do break the rule. Yes, his behavior is being aided by the "add a photo to this gallery" bug, but since he/she won't respond we're left with only the option of taking some overt action. Again, you'll be looking for any uploads after 11 Sept without a license. Thanks.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">23:03:04 Sun 11 Sep 2011 

Achievements now "the Game of Rassilon"

Please note that "Achievements" has now been totally rebranded the "Game of Rassilon" on this site. For those editors who only edit here, it will probably be confusing to make reference to "Achievements", as the word has all but been scrubbed from public view. Help and rules files are now Help:Game of Rassilon and tardis:Game of Rassilon rules.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">13:34:13 Tue 13 Sep 2011 

With respect to your parting comment in chat —

Statement . . . rejected.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">22:37:37 Tue 13 Sep 2011 

Your input is needed!

You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:Image appropriateness issue. — Rob T Firefly - Δ∇ - 13:41, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

TOC limit

The TOC limit template does now appear to be working, at least in Wikia. Something incredibly screwy is going on with the cache, though, so it's hard to tell what the current state of monobook is. In any case, if you go to companion, you'll see that the TOC is indeed limited.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">15:17: Tue 20 Sep 2011 

what are Rassilon points what do they do to your account and please stop posting to my profile (omly if it is completley urgrnt)

please

what are Rassilon points what do they do to your account and please stop posting to my profile (omly if it is completley urgrnt)– The preceding unsigned comment was added by Metardis (talk • contribs) .

And THEN I thought, "MAYBE I should talk to him BEFORE adding categories willy-nilly"

Problem: the notion of holiday or leisure planets encompasses (as of now) two separate pages and two categories (one of which is mine--mea culpa). I think it should be best handled by rolling the content from either Leisure world or Holiday world into the category page, which I think should be called Category:Holiday planets, a subcategory of Category:Planets by type.

Then the extraneous category and both extraneous pages can be deleted.

What say you?

Nightsky 17:36, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

very angry

please do not delet my page even if it is a "complete mess" and that i should "start over"

yours unrespectulfuly Metardis 09:18, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

very angry

please do not delet my page even if it is a "complete mess" and that i should "start over"

yours unrespectulfuly Metardis 09:26, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

no idea

sorry for that outburst but it was very anoying for me to see that my page had been deleted once again, skittels, because i recall you deleting another page that was mine.

please

skittels, human page!!!!! apparently you deleted my edit...........................Metardis 10:06, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Purpose of Editing

I see that you have reverted my editing on BLACKTHORNE GASWORKS with the comment that it is all right to change the text so it is grammatical, but not to "cut out any information". While it is true that I cut out the fact that the Doctor and Penny used "her key" to enter by the kitchen "door", I believe your reinstatement of the bits is a mistake. How, I wonder, is this relevant to the article itself, which is BLACKTHORNE GASWORKS? The relevant details are its name, its location, its time, that Penny Chapman worked there and used it to hide her whatsits, that the Doctor Penny and the other individual had a fight on its roof. What happened to those people outside its confines is not important and if anyone cares, the proper place to look is in the article on the comic strip it appeared in. I honestly believe that there is a strong tendency to get caught up in details here and miss the main details. Part of it is that articles on specific subjects are created by simply taking large swaths of text that mention the subject at hand and not bothering to edit those down to relevant information. Bigger isn't always better. Sometimes it's just more confusing. I do not expect you to reinstate my editing, but I do ask that you think about what I have just written. Boblipton 13:19, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Blocking review

I direct your attention to fr:User talk:CzechOut, and request your opinion on whether this action at our French language partner — to which we are effectively joined at the hip by hundreds of interlanguage links — is grounds for an infinite ban here.

Rationale for the precipitating block is given at User talk:MEGAKID III, at the bottom.

czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  <span style="">17:17: Tue 27 Sep 2011 

Dalek image

Hey, Skittles. I was just wondering if you could find a better picture for the "Daleks" article. You know, one that shows all versions, not just the lousy new ones? I mean, could we do something like they did for the Master?

If you could find a way to, for example, collage together a few good images of every Dalek variant and use that as the main picture, that'd be fantastic. Let me know when you have a good idea. Thanks.– The preceding unsigned comment was added by Patrick Watt (talk • contribs) .

I think that would be cool. Also for the Cybermen. Boblipton ^{talk to me} 14:23, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Well, the problem is, although sometimes one picture is fine, this is most certainly NOT one of those cases, as an image of the "New Daleks" is far from representative of the Daleks as they appear throughout the series. It's like including an image of the Eleventh Doctor as the main picture for the "Doctor" article, or just a picture of the Mondas Cybermen for the Cybermen's page. See where I'm getting at?– The preceding unsigned comment was added by Patrick Watt (talk • contribs) .

More IP Vandalism

Hi Skittles, sorry to bother you, but I've noticed we've both had to clean up some vandalism on the 'The Wedding of River Song ' page; the IP responsible is becoming persistent so can I ask for you to block them ? cheers Baziel ^{talk to me} 19:37, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, but already we seem to have another Special:Contributions/173.245.64.123, which seems slightly too co-incidental to meBaziel ^{talk to me} 19:53, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, maybe need to go to Wikia Central or something with these - every time I undo the vandalism and mention it to you, another supposedly different IP picks up where the last one left off - and they're making references I've definitely seen before. Baziel ^{talk to me} 20:01, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Me again - Is it possible to get that page locked?, it's getting to the stage where it's more than one act of vandalism every minute Baziel ^{talk to me} 20:09, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Your input is needed!

You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:Page Creation time. MM/Want to talk? 22:25, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

My Jo Jones Pic

Was there any reason particular reason why you reverted my edit. I'm not having a go at you, it's just you didn't really give a detailed summary why you done it like the other users do when they revert one of my edits.--Darrendw 15:06, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Categories

I don't understand the orders you just left on my talk page. Boblipton ^{talk to me} 19:37, October 4, 2011 (UTC)