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 :::Oh, sorry. But if something can be experienced, if it has been released on the official YouTube channel or whatever, then surely it looks passes rule 3? Isn't that what rule 3 means? [[User:Aquanafrahudy|Aquanafrahudy]] [[User talk:Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:18, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
+::::Maybe? Things don't tend to fail R3 - it's not usually invoked to remove something from validity, I think there was maybe a comic or a book that only got a limited release at a convention and was considered to not be an "official" release, or something?
+::::As stated before, I think applying any of the 4 rules to the issue is anachronistic, that's just not why these were invalidated, but certainly it's R3-ish, [[User:Tangerineduel]], who was the admin involved in the original deleted scenes discussion, has already said he thinks they fail R3. [[User:CzechOut]] suggested something clearly R3 adjacent as well in [[Forum:P.S.]]:
+::::::We'd also have to conclude that the ''actual'' title of ''[[The Claws of Axos]]'' was ''The Vampire from Space'', since there's an officially released title card on the DVD. Of even greater difficulty, we'd have to somehow have to grant the TV version of ''Shada'' some kind of legitimacy, even though major parts of it — really, most of the narrative's ''concluding'' scenes)[sic] — were never filmed at all. [...]
+::::::It would be a ''major'' sea [sic] change in the policy we currently have to allow ''storyboards'' to substitute for ''story''.
+::::The conflation of storyboards and story seems to me to be an almost archetypal R3 concern.
+::::But, like, yeah, maybe they pass. We don't really have a ton of R3 jurisprudence. Maybe just being able to go read/watch the thing means it passes R3. (And for the closing admin here, note that I do mean maybe in the strictest possible sense, I don't think this is a good position to hold.) But I think that has some counterintuitive implications about old script revisions and such. I just don't see why showing us the scrapped product, a look into what definitively didn't happen, but allowing us more access into the bts production fun, is being treated as on par with an actual released product, even one that's invalid. It seems a category error to me. The product was just never released. What was released was a work print, not an actual product. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:09, 10 May 2023 (UTC)