Talk:Seventh Doctor

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New Adventures content

Why is there so little content from the New Adventures included in this article and yet so much covering the Seventh Doctor's Big Finish Productions stories? I'm completely certain there is a lot more information that could be added from the books. --Confirm Nothing...Deny Everything ^{talk to me} 22:32, May 10, 2012 (UTC)

For no reason than that they aren't very heavily read. BFA is at this point, much more popular that NA. (Their also much better) OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 01:24, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

A very poor reason, and not particularly true either.

 And it's 'they're', not 'their'.

opinions aside, the way this (and other) Wikis work, if you want the content, you have to write it yourself. (or bribe someone else to do it with sweets, I suppose.) unfair but true. --50.138.227.67^{talk to me} 22:40, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

"Seemingly none of the other Doctors liked him except Ten".

Given The Eight Doctors was made eight years before Rose, does it have any insinuation at all of what the "modern" Doctors thought? Also, did the Tenth Doctor mention the Seventh at all during Time Crash? I thought he was only fanboying over Davison (and in a meta way, the Davison era)... -- Tybort (talk page) 16:16, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

I removed that comment before I saw your post. I think the person posting the comment was mixing up the Fifth and Seventh. Shambala108 ☎ 16:37, February 18, 2013 (UTC)

The Seventh Doctor is not well-liked by his predecessors or successors. This is most likely due to his dark, manipulative nature. In that respect, the Seventh greatly disliked the Fifth Doctor, calling him "bland, and not even one of the good ones"; in his psyche, he chained up the Fifth Doctor, who served as his conscience. The Tenth Doctor also did not like this incarnation, when talking to Wilfred in The End of Time, saying he "got worse; tricked people into taking their own lives". – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 92.15.132.143 (talk).

Well, that's still extremely speculative. You can't just say things like "seemingly" because that leaves the impression that you aren't entirely sure and what you are saying is speculative. At most, I only know of two Doctors not liking 7, and those were 5 and 8. Those, along with any others you could find, are all that should be mentioned if any. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 01:55, July 22, 2013 (UTC)

Big Finish timeline

I'm doing some cleanup on the sequence of events in some late Big Finish adventures. For example, it is pretty obvious that some of them take place later than others because on some covers, he is shown as he was in season 26, on others he is in season 26 attire but noticably older, and on others he looks as he did in the TV movie. JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 01:15, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

I know this sounds nit-picky, but covers are out of universe and can't be used to date in-universe articles. Covers aren't necessarily done by the same person who writes the story. The stories can only be dated according to narrative information. Shambala108 ☎ 01:21, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

The TARDIS console sounds are also a bit different in ones using the TV movie TARDIS interior (and older Doctor on the cover) from ones using season 26 interior (with younger Doctor on the cover), so this is actually noticable within the audio itself as well.

Also, regardless of that, I think non-narrative clues can also be used for dating the different adventures if no narrative ones are given (or rather, not for definitive dating, but simply for the order in which they are presented in the article; even if we do not specify that stories happened in a given order, we obviously need to present them linearly). Hell, release order in itself is one big non-narrative clue, but we usually assume that stories happen in release order if not otherwise specified. So unless we use a script to set the order randomly each time the page is loaded, order based on non-narrative sources where no other source for sequence of events is given is better than order based on no source whatsoever. JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 01:26, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

The thing is, the wiki decided a short while back, at Forum:Timeline deletion, to remove timelines from pages, as it involved way too much speculation. In fact, we have a whole dedicated section for timelines at Theory:Index, which is separate from the main namespace.

Each Doctor has a section called "undated adventures" for the stories that we can't place without speculation. This was a wiki-wide decision. Shambala108 ☎ 02:03, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Fair enough, although in the case of most Seventh Doctor solo adventures, they can be more or less dated to some period of his life without speculation, by the TARDIS console they use if nothing else. I actually deleted some sentences that try to make an exact timeline out of this page even when it's purely speculative, e.g. "After defeating the Cybermen...". etc. JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 02:24, August 13, 2013 (UTC)

Why aren't the DWM comic (with Frobisher and Olla) there. The Doctor couldn't have been with him without Mel or Ace.