Forum:"Wallace & Gromit (franchise)" or "Shaun the Sheep (series)"?
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Opening
I believe this cover artwork constitutes an official crossover between the DWU and… the universe from which Shaun the Sheep originates (and Star Wars, but that's irrelevant here).
If I am correct in this assumption (by all means tell me if I'm not), what should the scope of the crossover page be: just the Shaun the Sheep series by itself, or the Wallace & Gromit franchise as a whole? WaltK ☎ 19:25, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
Discussion
Is the cover art technically licensed? If so, covering cover art is a whole discussion of its own (perhaps the caption could be taken as a title?), but I believe series pages would be warranted. I can't think of any references to the DWU in W&G itself, but Shaun the Sheep has had a couple, and one might be licensed? Anyway, if it's licensed, I personally think an overview of Shaun the Sheep would be most reasonable, but feel free to disagree. Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 22:01, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- (Oh, also do you know what the car behind BB-8 (assuming I'm remembering its name correctly) is?) Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 22:05, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, TV&SW issues usually have a copyright thing on the first page for whatever the cover photo is, but the Christmas illustrations just credit the artist. I like to think, if they have the license to cover DW elsewhere in the issue, then that surely means the illustration is "official" too. WaltK ☎ 22:42, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- But would they even need a license? This isn't depicting the TARDIS as a real thing, just a large TARDIS toy amidst other items of merchandise. Surely that makes it a cultural reference more than anything else… Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 22:58, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- True. But then, again, as I've already brought up in one other thread today, we now have a page for this webcast. WaltK ☎ 23:17, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
- Regardless of if they'd need a license, if they nevertheless did have it, I'd say it would be worth coverage (if it's possible for such an item currently), although whether or not it would be valid is a whole other thing. (However UCP, I think has a case for validity, considering we have another Terrahawks crossover [+]Loading...["Merry Christmas 2016 from Big Finish (webcast)","another ''Terrahawks'' crossover"], and the other decorations depict "real" elements of the Terrahawks universe (Zeroids, Cubes) & other Anderson properties (Thunderbird 2)) Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 13:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- I never said it was, just that it crossed over again later, and that "real" elements of the show's universe (using "universe" in an out-of-universe sense) are also seen as tree decorations (along with an element of Thunderbirds). Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 17:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
I don't know why it never occurred to me to point out: the Christmas bumper issue cover from two years later depicts Santa flying past the actual TARDIS. WaltK ☎ 20:12, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- It should be noted that our Aardman Animations page already covers a Doctor Who reference in Shaun the Sheep itself. It's out-of-universe, though: one of the sheep dressed up as a Dalek. Here's the sceeenshot I was excited to upload around 7 years ago. I'm not sure I'm convinced yet that these references require a separate page from Aardman, but I'm maintaining an open mind.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 20:27, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- It should be noted that our Aardman Animations page already covers a Doctor Who reference in Shaun the Sheep itself. It's out-of-universe, though: one of the sheep dressed up as a Dalek. Here's the sceeenshot I was excited to upload around 7 years ago. I'm not sure I'm convinced yet that these references require a separate page from Aardman, but I'm maintaining an open mind.
- There are also some in-universe references from the second movie. Aquanafrahudy 📢 🖊️ 20:43, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
