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But I'm not sure such a blanket policy makes sense.
But I'm not sure such a blanket policy makes sense.


BBV weren't like [[Big Finish]] or [[IDW]]. They '''never, ever''' had a full license to produce ''Doctor Who'' fiction. In fact, they had no license whatever from the BBC. So characters that looked like wholly-BBC-owned characters, like the Doctor, couldn't actually ''be'' those characters. The Nick Briggs BBV character, Fred, is therefore '''Fred''', not, as was previously intimated by redirect, [[The Doctor (Party Animals)|a version of the Doctor who appeared briefly in '''official''' DWM comics]]. I think we need to remember and clearly state in our canon policy that BBV productions are '''at best''' ''semi''-canonical, because they ''never'' involve the rights of the BBC. However, '''at worst''' they're '''not at all''' canonical, because quite a bit of BBV's output doesn't involve the rights of even ''Doctor Who'' writers.
BBV weren't like [[Big Finish]] or [[COMIC]]. They '''never, ever''' had a full license to produce ''Doctor Who'' fiction. In fact, they had no license whatever from the BBC. So characters that looked like wholly-BBC-owned characters, like the Doctor, couldn't actually ''be'' those characters. The Nick Briggs BBV character, Fred, is therefore '''Fred''', not, as was previously intimated by redirect, [[The Doctor (Party Animals)|a version of the Doctor who appeared briefly in '''official''' DWM comics]]. I think we need to remember and clearly state in our canon policy that BBV productions are '''at best''' ''semi''-canonical, because they ''never'' involve the rights of the BBC. However, '''at worst''' they're '''not at all''' canonical, because quite a bit of BBV's output doesn't involve the rights of even ''Doctor Who'' writers.


Actually, this "Fred" character shouldn't be mentioned by us whatsoever, because all his adventures involve the [[Cyberon]]a, who are themselves rip-offs of the Cybermen. There's zero legal tie whatever to the DWU, so why are we covering them?
Actually, this "Fred" character shouldn't be mentioned by us whatsoever, because all his adventures involve the [[Cyberon]]a, who are themselves rip-offs of the Cybermen. There's zero legal tie whatever to the DWU, so why are we covering them?
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I believe that with BBV, if theres a Doctor Who character in it, we should keep the story, be that FP, the Killing Stone or PROBE. I agree that with The Pocket universe stuff we should created a BBV K9 article and put in the behind the scenes section that the intention of it was to be...
I believe that with BBV, if theres a Doctor Who character in it, we should keep the story, be that FP, the Killing Stone or PROBE. I agree that with The Pocket universe stuff we should created a BBV K9 article and put in the behind the scenes section that the intention of it was to be...


Miles explains the FPU in the Book of the War et al. as being shaped by the War itself, thus meaning that the nature of this "timey wimey" war removed some elements from DWU. DWU elements such as the [[Celestis]] are a big part in the FPU and they as explained in [[EDA]]: [[Alien Bodies]] as the [[Celestial Intervention Agency]] removing themselves from the universe for self-preservation.
Miles explains the FPU in the Book of the War et al. as being shaped by the War itself, thus meaning that the nature of this "timey wimey" war removed some elements from DWU. DWU elements such as the [[Celestis]] are a big part in the FPU and they as explained in [[PROSE]]: [[Alien Bodies]] as the [[Celestial Intervention Agency]] removing themselves from the universe for self-preservation.


I think we need to research the Killing Stone some more, i understand that if BBV used the Doctor and the Master in the audio and were selling it to an audience without copyright permission then it is illegal. We need to find out if the audio did have permission (it is one of the later audios). So lets keep this one on the fence while more info about it is found. Just to note that in Tangerineduel's message to me he said that we include BBV because it is a production company and not just a loose group of fans, to quote:
I think we need to research the Killing Stone some more, i understand that if BBV used the Doctor and the Master in the audio and were selling it to an audience without copyright permission then it is illegal. We need to find out if the audio did have permission (it is one of the later audios). So lets keep this one on the fence while more info about it is found. Just to note that in Tangerineduel's message to me he said that we include BBV because it is a production company and not just a loose group of fans, to quote:
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