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:::Maybe, but that's a huge assumption. We don't know if they are supposed to be separate leaves or the same leaf. And until we do it seems much safer to simply say that the Doctor asked her about a leaf she called "the first page". A leaf which may or may not be supposed to be the same leaf. We can't say that it's the same leaf because we don't KNOW that. No character tells us that it's the same leaf. We're assuming it's the same leaf. We can't say that we know it's a different leaf because we don't know that. We see two leaves that look completely different and assume that they are not the same. All we can do is provide the information on both leaves and say that we don't know if they are the same. [[User:Anoted|Anoted]] [[User talk:Anoted|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:04, April 9, 2013 (UTC) | :::Maybe, but that's a huge assumption. We don't know if they are supposed to be separate leaves or the same leaf. And until we do it seems much safer to simply say that the Doctor asked her about a leaf she called "the first page". A leaf which may or may not be supposed to be the same leaf. We can't say that it's the same leaf because we don't KNOW that. No character tells us that it's the same leaf. We're assuming it's the same leaf. We can't say that we know it's a different leaf because we don't know that. We see two leaves that look completely different and assume that they are not the same. All we can do is provide the information on both leaves and say that we don't know if they are the same. [[User:Anoted|Anoted]] [[User talk:Anoted|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:04, April 9, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::Also as a matter of course I think it's a bad idea to assume an error. Yes, production errors happen all the time. But tiny details in stories are often important. When you watch Flesh and Stone and you see the Doctor in his jacket you might think it's just a production error. The Doctor isn't supposed to be in his jacket. But it's not a production error and we don't find that out for several episodes. Calling the leaves a production error has consequences. It forces a narrative and that seems like a very dangerous thing to me. Both because the show has a history of using what seem like small discrepancies as a part of a large plot, and because we should never assume a narrative and force it on other people. We're only two episodes into this character, we can afford to be a little patient. [[User:Anoted|Anoted]] [[User talk:Anoted|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:30, April 9, 2013 (UTC) | :::Also as a matter of course I think it's a bad idea to assume an error. Yes, production errors happen all the time. But tiny details in stories are often important. When you watch Flesh and Stone and you see the Doctor in his jacket you might think it's just a production error. The Doctor isn't supposed to be in his jacket. But it's not a production error and we don't find that out for several episodes. Calling the leaves a production error has consequences. It forces a narrative and that seems like a very dangerous thing to me. Both because the show has a history of using what seem like small discrepancies as a part of a large plot, and because we should never assume a narrative and force it on other people. We're only two episodes into this character, we can afford to be a little patient. [[User:Anoted|Anoted]] [[User talk:Anoted|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:30, April 9, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:Maybe when the Doctor went back in time and spied on the meeting of Clara's parent's he caused a different leaf to fall? We will have to wait and see if the series explains the two different leaves. (PS: If you notice, the book's cover changes as well.) -- [[User:Deb1701|Loyal Companion]] | |||
