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The question is related to whatever the Doctor has been running from all his life. That does sit well with the idea that he was worried that one day someone would learn his name, break into his tomb and undermine his life. If he wants to prevent that he should stay home or not die. Going to his death is a very silly way to protect his tomb, it's inaccessible as long as he lives. | The question is related to whatever the Doctor has been running from all his life. That does sit well with the idea that he was worried that one day someone would learn his name, break into his tomb and undermine his life. If he wants to prevent that he should stay home or not die. Going to his death is a very silly way to protect his tomb, it's inaccessible as long as he lives. | ||
No the question is "Doctor Who?" but the answer he wants to keep isn't his name. This is what he means when he says "my real name, that's not the point.", it never was the point. The secret he is trying to keep, the answer he doesn't want to give, is the identity of the secret incarnation. Or else Steven Moffat's story is very logically joined up.[[User:DCT|DCT]] [[User talk:DCT|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:11, November 6, 2013 (UTC) | No the question is "Doctor Who?" but the answer he wants to keep isn't his name. This is what he means when he says "my real name, that's not the point.", it never was the point. The secret he is trying to keep, the answer he doesn't want to give, is the identity of the secret incarnation. Or else Steven Moffat's story is very logically joined up.[[User:DCT|DCT]] [[User talk:DCT|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:11, November 6, 2013 (UTC) | ||
→ Oh! Things like Father's Day or the Angels take Manhattan are unclear in my memories, I need to watch them again. Thank you (once again) for that! | |||
'''1.''' ''"What made the Doctor believe Trenzalore was his grave is unclear"'' => he understood that the prophecy was about his death in the Wedding of River Song, when he explains to Churchill what "Silence will fall" means (his own silence). Other than that, You're right as it's unclear how he knows the prophecy is more than just words saying "the Doctor must die". | |||
'''2.''' I need to watch all of this again, since I think I am confuse about fixed points/paradoxes/"weakened time". | |||
About your last words: for me, the answer of "Doctor who?" was given by River Song, but the question is not the prophecy, it is at best only a part of it: the prophecy isn't "doctor who?" but "the question 'doctor who?' must never be answered on Trenzalore at the fall of the Eleventh". So for now, the remaining question is nomore "doctor who?" but "''why'' this answer must never be answered, what happens if it is?", because River did answered, and the prophecy sort of "failed". And then yes, the prophecy could be related to the fact that, when the question is answered, the thing the Doctor has been running from all his life happens and is bad for everyone. | |||
''(and that's why I'm not found of Steven Moffat's style: all the "Whouniverse" seems to be in orbit around the Doctor, the individual, whereas I prefered when I had the feeling that the universe was a dynamic thing in which the Doctor only participates (that, and believable/endearing companions))'' [[User:Tepec|Tepec]] [[User talk:Tepec|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:29, November 7, 2013 (UTC)Tepec | |||
