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Remember also Moffat's position is that the whoniverse was always in orbit around the Doctor, around his enigma and then they gave too much away and lost it. He believes he's restoring order.[[User:DCT|DCT]] [[User talk:DCT|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC) | Remember also Moffat's position is that the whoniverse was always in orbit around the Doctor, around his enigma and then they gave too much away and lost it. He believes he's restoring order.[[User:DCT|DCT]] [[User talk:DCT|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:14, November 7, 2013 (UTC) | ||
→ I had a hard time trying to understand what you meant..! But, to resume: | |||
- all the stuff about the Silence is not really related to what we see in the episode "The Name of the Doctor"; the fact that "Silence must fall before the Doctor reaches Trenzalore" is related to the Doctor's "future" travel to Trenzalore, the one during which he dies, not the one we saw. So the prophecy isn't accomplished on that aspect. | |||
- my first question was about the two deaths I interpreted as "fixed points", but the one on Trenzalore wasn't fixed until the Doctor "fixed it" by crossing his own timeline to his tomb. It seems more logical in my mind now, because the prophecy never said that the Doctor dies at Trenzalore, only that "the eleventh falls", and the death on Trenzalore become a fixed point only after the Silence tried to kill him before he crosses his own timeline and make his death on Trenzalore a fixed point (on his own timeline). | |||
- Moreover, the question that should never been asked is not "what is your name, Doctor?", but "Who are you, Doctor?" from your opinion, implying that the "who are you?" means "who is this guy you were but who broke the promise of your title?". This is so far-stretched from my point of view, but I assume it's partly due to the -grammatical- fact that "doctor who?" can't be translated into a proper question in French. It's like you want to ask someone "what is your favorite colour gradient?" but ask only "What colour?": there's merely no chance the answer can be answered correctly, because the question isn't correct itself. | |||
- Finally, the Prophecy isn't fulfilled at all since the situation "where no living creature can speak falsely or fail to answer" has not been encountered yet. | |||
Once again, thank you for all those explanations! [[User:Tepec|Tepec]] [[User talk:Tepec|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:42, November 8, 2013 (UTC)Tepec | |||
