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Here's my working theory, which relates to the current season 8 story as I know of:  What does the Doctor fear?  Growing old, and eventually dying.  He knows it is his last regeneration, he knows that he can go no further.  I think, in his room, he sees the TARDIS at his grave on Trenzalore.  His tomb, his death.  It explains the TARDIS sound heard.  As for his comment "''Who'' else", perhaps he simply means it couldn't have been anyone but himself.  This fear of growing old shows in the beginning of Season 8, though the fear of death is less obvious.  Perhaps the Doctor's faith is that some day his journey will end.  After all, death would be a gift to such an old being, as made clear in the end of the episode.  And we at the end of the season that he is cursed to live, when he decides to end the time war.  Food for thought.  I'm sorry, the beginning of that was poorly thought out.  It is a fear of an everlasting life, not death.  The Doctor wouldn't fear death, as that would be a well received gift.  Instead, he fears never obtaining it.  Maybe then he sees a future generation of himself, an old version of himself.  Just throwing out ideas.
Here's my working theory, which relates to the current season 8 story as I know of:  What does the Doctor fear?  Growing old, and eventually dying.  He knows it is his last regeneration, he knows that he can go no further.  I think, in his room, he sees the TARDIS at his grave on Trenzalore.  His tomb, his death.  It explains the TARDIS sound heard.  As for his comment "''Who'' else", perhaps he simply means it couldn't have been anyone but himself.  This fear of growing old shows in the beginning of Season 8, though the fear of death is less obvious.  Perhaps the Doctor's faith is that some day his journey will end.  After all, death would be a gift to such an old being, as made clear in the end of the episode.  And we at the end of the season that he is cursed to live, when he decides to end the time war.  Food for thought.  I'm sorry, the beginning of that was poorly thought out.  It is a fear of an everlasting life, not death.  The Doctor wouldn't fear death, as that would be a well received gift.  Instead, he fears never obtaining it.  Maybe then he sees a future generation of himself, an old version of himself.  Just throwing out ideas.
Yeah, again, you're forgetting what is or isn't known at the time of The God Complex. The Doctor, at that time did not know the name Trenzalore or that itt was the location of his grave. He knew the Silence where trying to kill him over some question they thought was incredibly dangerous. The TARDIS sound was the cloister bell and we wouldn't hear that once the TARDIS was dead, which it basically was in The Name Of The Doctor. That certainly wasn't thought out it reads like you've done a complete 180 while writing it, which sometimes can happen.
Certainly the fear in his room is meant to provoke his faith but it's hard to believe the Doctor has faith in death he tried very hard to avoid it right until the Brigadier died. It's not in the Doctor's character to embrace his death when he spends all his lie fighting it on behalf of others. And anyway how would the Doctor recognize a future version of himself? And if he did it would likely undermine his reaction to the events on Trenzalore. It made sense, at one time, for the Doctor, maybe, to have seen his 'secret' self and say "who else?" that doesn't fit with a future self he had never encountered and couldn't be expect to remember. Remember that the point of The Time Of The Doctor was that a brand new Doctor should mean a brand new story. That's why it's so infuriating. Trying to connect Peter Capaldi's arc to Matt Smith's arc is against the spirit of the episode. Steven Moffat may do it. But it would be a tacit admission of getting it wrong.[[User:DCT|DCT]] [[User talk:DCT|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:42, September 1, 2014 (UTC)
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