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* Jack shouts "DOCTOR!" while clinging to the TARDIS. Is there air in the time vortex?
* Jack shouts "DOCTOR!" while clinging to the TARDIS. Is there air in the time vortex?
::Doctor Who, like a lot of sci-fi breaks the rule of audio in space. You hear lasers and engines in space. So this is no different.
::Doctor Who, like a lot of sci-fi breaks the rule of audio in space. You hear lasers and engines in space. So this is no different.
:::Jack only shouts "Doctor" once. That would only take one breath, which he certainly had in his lungs.
:::Jack only shouts "Doctor" once. That would only take one breath, which he certainly had in his lungs.
::::Well, he didn't afterwards. He ''did'' die immediately afterwards.
::::Well, he didn't afterwards. He ''did'' die immediately afterwards.
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* According to the Doctor in ''[[Rise of the Cybermen]]'' his TARDIS is the last in the Universe, so how did the Master travel to the End of the Universe?
* According to the Doctor in ''[[Rise of the Cybermen]]'' his TARDIS is the last in the Universe, so how did the Master travel to the End of the Universe?
::The Doctor thought it was the only TARDIS because he never knew anyone else survived. If the Master ran, he would have used his TARDIS.
::The Doctor thought it was the only TARDIS because he never knew anyone else survived. If the Master ran, he would have used his TARDIS.
::This question assumes that the Doctor was wrong all the times he specifically said he was the last of his kind, and yet he was infallibly right the one time he offhandedly mentioned that he had the last TARDIS, which is kind of a silly assumption.
::This question assumes that the Doctor was wrong all the times he specifically said he was the last of his kind, and yet he was infallibly right the one time he offhandedly mentioned that he had the last TARDIS, which is kind of a silly assumption.
::As an additional note, the Time Lords do have lots of other technology to travel in time without necessarily using a TARDIS.
::As an additional note, the Time Lords do have lots of other technology to travel in time without necessarily using a TARDIS.


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::The Doctor references that the rift has been active, which obviously allows the process to happen much more quickly.
::The Doctor references that the rift has been active, which obviously allows the process to happen much more quickly.
:::Yeah, the Rift was (mostly) closed back in ''Boom Town''. But when Owen opened it in ''[[End of Days (TV story)|End of Days]]'', it likely at the very least left some temporal residue.
:::Yeah, the Rift was (mostly) closed back in ''Boom Town''. But when Owen opened it in ''[[End of Days (TV story)|End of Days]]'', it likely at the very least left some temporal residue.
::::Actually the doctor says it should only take about twenty seconds, then says the rifts been active. This means that for some unknown reason, the doctor can know recharge the tardis after 20 seconds now, instead of a full day. Its not because the rift was active.  
::::Actually the doctor says it should only take about twenty seconds, then says the rifts been active. This means that for some unknown reason, the doctor can now recharge the tardis after 20 seconds now, instead of a full day. Its not because the rift was active.  


* If the Time Lords have never been that far in the future, how does the Doctor know that that is the "end of the universe"?
* If the Time Lords have never been that far in the future, how does the Doctor know that that is the "end of the universe"?
::The Doctor must have recognised that the TARDIS stopped at the year 100 trillion because it could go no further into the future, the end of the line so to speak.
::The Doctor must have recognised that the TARDIS stopped at the year 100 trillion because it could go no further into the future, the end of the line so to speak.
:::Plus, he'd already been to the end of the universe in [[PROSE]]: ''[[The End (short story)|The End]]''. Although he ''did'' seem to imply that ''he'd'' never been either.
:::Plus, he'd already been to the end of the universe in [[PROSE]]: ''[[The End (short story)|The End]]''. Although he ''did'' seem to imply that ''he'd'' never been either.
::It is highly possible that the Time Lords knew about the end of the universe, with all their knowledge of time travel, but simply had no cause to go there.
::It is highly possible that the Time Lords knew about the end of the universe, with all their knowledge of time travel, but simply had no cause to go there.
:::It's actually established in ''[[Frontios (TV story)|Frontios]]'' that the Time Lords had a law against visiting the end.
:::It's actually established in ''[[Frontios (TV story)|Frontios]]'' that the Time Lords had a law against visiting the end.
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* The Master is now human, yet he starts to remember his Time Lord self. How is it possible that when the Doctor and the Master became human, their minds did not burn up like Donna's would if she ever remembered everything that had happened while she had travelled with the Doctor.
* The Master is now human, yet he starts to remember his Time Lord self. How is it possible that when the Doctor and the Master became human, their minds did not burn up like Donna's would if she ever remembered everything that had happened while she had travelled with the Doctor.
:: Donna was specified to have a Time Lord consciousness in a human mind, while the Doctor and Master became Human and lost their Time Lord consciousness. Donna was the only one to try to have both at the same time.
:: Donna was specified to have a Time Lord consciousness in a human mind, while the Doctor and Master became Human and lost their Time Lord consciousness. Donna was the only one to try to have both at the same time.
::: Chameleon arches are something specifically designed by Time Lords, and obviously they wouldn't have built them if using one meant your mind burned up. Donna's transformation was an unforeseeable accident; nobody built any safeties into it.
::: Chameleon arches are something specifically designed by Time Lords, and obviously they wouldn't have built them if using one meant your mind burned up. Donna's transformation was an unforeseeable accident; nobody built any safeties into it.


* In the last appearance of The Master, he had finished all his twelve regenerations and was dead. So how did he get here and managed to regenerate one more time?
* In the last appearance of The Master, he had finished all his twelve regenerations and was dead. So how did he get here and managed to regenerate one more time?
::The Time Lords resurrected him, so that may have given him a whole new line of regenerations.
::The Time Lords resurrected him, so that may have given him a whole new line of regenerations.
::I assume you're talking about the Eric Roberts master. Actually, he's appeared since then in audio dramas as Alex MacQueen, when he says 'they plucked me from my predicament and made me an offer I couldn't refuse. A new leese of life', the 'they' is the time lords, and I think the predicament is having to hop from body to body, like Geoffrey Beaver's master did, and the new leese of life is a new regeneration cycle. But, he did also get ressurected by the Time Lords because they thought he'd make a perfect warrior for a time war.
::I assume you're talking about the Eric Roberts master. Actually, he's appeared since then in audio dramas as Alex MacQueen, when he says 'they plucked me from my predicament and made me an offer I couldn't refuse. A new leese of life', the 'they' is the time lords, and I think the predicament is having to hop from body to body, like Geoffrey Beaver's master did, and the new leese of life is a new regeneration cycle. But, he did also get ressurected by the Time Lords because they thought he'd make a perfect warrior for a time war.


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* The Futurekind are obviously shocked when Jack shoots his gun, as if they had never encountered a gun before. But the guards of Silo 16 have guns, and the Futurekind have obviously been encountered before.
* The Futurekind are obviously shocked when Jack shoots his gun, as if they had never encountered a gun before. But the guards of Silo 16 have guns, and the Futurekind have obviously been encountered before.
::They knew what a gun was, so they backed up because they were afraid of being shot
::They knew what a gun was, so they backed up because they were afraid of being shot


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::If Torchwood had access to UNIT records then he might have learned about regeneration that way.
::If Torchwood had access to UNIT records then he might have learned about regeneration that way.
::''[[Piece of Mind (audio story)|Piece of Mind]]'' shows him meeting the Sixth Doctor.
::''[[Piece of Mind (audio story)|Piece of Mind]]'' shows him meeting the Sixth Doctor.
* How did Jack know that that was The Doctor's hand? Did he do a scan of it, detecting the Time Lord DNA and figure out it could've only be The Doctor's?
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