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::::Getting back to CoFD, The Master is the only one who refers to the Doctor in any meaningful way - and that's the Ninth Doctor as being the "ninth body". In the short lifespans of the following three incarnations, none of them notate themselves in any way or self-describe as such. Thus, I would argue that following the pattern set by the first of the featured Doctors being Ninth Doctor is the most sensible option (much as two of the Unbounds notate The Doctor, and New Doctor & Previous Doctor, and The Doctor), and numbering them as has been done. | ::::Getting back to CoFD, The Master is the only one who refers to the Doctor in any meaningful way - and that's the Ninth Doctor as being the "ninth body". In the short lifespans of the following three incarnations, none of them notate themselves in any way or self-describe as such. Thus, I would argue that following the pattern set by the first of the featured Doctors being Ninth Doctor is the most sensible option (much as two of the Unbounds notate The Doctor, and New Doctor & Previous Doctor, and The Doctor), and numbering them as has been done. | ||
::::It would be an altogether different matter if there was other material in which any of them did identify using a different term, but thus far no such media exists. So I would stand by the numbering. And I would also say it's not conjecture to number them. The only argument against the idea that the incarnations following are Tenth, Eleventh & Twelfth... would be to make conjecture yourself in speculating that there were other incarnations inbetween the blasts, and that the successive incarnations for some reason don't remark on that, and that as a result - the Thirteenth would then not be Thirteenth... and you'd be in a quagmire of speculative conjecture by then.[[User:JDPManjoume|JDPManjoume]] [[User talk:JDPManjoume|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:03, October 6, 2020 (UTC) | ::::It would be an altogether different matter if there was other material in which any of them did identify using a different term, but thus far no such media exists. So I would stand by the numbering. And I would also say it's not conjecture to number them. The only argument against the idea that the incarnations following are Tenth, Eleventh & Twelfth... would be to make conjecture yourself in speculating that there were other incarnations inbetween the blasts, and that the successive incarnations for some reason don't remark on that, and that as a result - the Thirteenth would then not be Thirteenth... and you'd be in a quagmire of speculative conjecture by then.[[User:JDPManjoume|JDPManjoume]] [[User talk:JDPManjoume|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:03, October 6, 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::::Richard Curtis provides the particular names of the Quite Handsome Doctor, the Shy Doctor and the Handsome Doctor during the interview; the on-screen captions later repeat these in text, reiterating and confirming their capitalised proper-name status and the name of the Female Doctor. That's two discrete instances for most of these names already; they weren't winging it. (For anyone interested, the script extract provides more details on the evolution of the characters' names; their working titles had been "the New Doctor", "the Plump Doctor", "the Gorgeous Doctor" and "the Lady Doctor" respectively (with an additional "Geeky Doctor" between the latter two), but these were amended to reflect the actors who were ultimately cast, so it's quite clear that the production considered the ones in the documentary to be the finalised names.) It's not conjecture or extrapolation to notice the names being used in an official piece of media and then use those names. This isn't just "a documentary"; it's the official BBC-authorised documentary that was produced alongside COFD, on the set of COFD, and then bundled with what was to be its only available release for some fifteen years. [[User:Gowlbag|Gowlbag]] [[User talk:Gowlbag|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:16, October 6, 2020 (UTC) | |||
