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The lede is ''usually'' populated by information about their character arc and personality. Compare [[Special:PermanentLink/2608632|a revision]] of the 13th Doctor's page after her first season (including special) with [[Special:PermanentLink/1814124|one]] of the 12th Doctor's page. Ignoring the regeneration cycle stuff, the second is a good 70 words longer, devoted entirely to characterization. In large part, I contend, because characterization was the focus of S8 while it wasn't the focus of S11. (Lest you think I'm cherry picking, I assure you, the surrounding revisions are similar.) But it's not clear to me that we can apply this standard to a biography section easily. The two situations are disanalogous. But Bongo, let me ask you, I've raised specific examples where I think it's unclear how to apply the standards on a biography section. Schreibenheimer has done the same. If this is a non issue, surely you can suggest how you'd adjudicate these matters? [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC) | The lede is ''usually'' populated by information about their character arc and personality. Compare [[Special:PermanentLink/2608632|a revision]] of the 13th Doctor's page after her first season (including special) with [[Special:PermanentLink/1814124|one]] of the 12th Doctor's page. Ignoring the regeneration cycle stuff, the second is a good 70 words longer, devoted entirely to characterization. In large part, I contend, because characterization was the focus of S8 while it wasn't the focus of S11. (Lest you think I'm cherry picking, I assure you, the surrounding revisions are similar.) But it's not clear to me that we can apply this standard to a biography section easily. The two situations are disanalogous. But Bongo, let me ask you, I've raised specific examples where I think it's unclear how to apply the standards on a biography section. Schreibenheimer has done the same. If this is a non issue, surely you can suggest how you'd adjudicate these matters? [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC) | ||
: Certainly. For ''[[The Day of the Doctor (novelisation)|The Day of the Doctor]]'' (novelisation), I would exclude it from the summary because, as you mention, it is a minor appearance for the [[Thirteenth Doctor]] and that is the incarnation who we're concerned about in this summary. For Thirteen/[[Tenth Doctor|Ten]] [[Multi-Doctor story|multi-Doctors]], I think this would be done more case by case. [[Titan Comics]]' Thirteen/Ten stories could probably be mentioned all in one short parahraph in the summary as they are multiple stories that form a key arc in Titan's Thirteen Doctor run, one of the main strands of her non-TV media. ''[[The Edge of Reality (video game)|The Edge of Reality]]'' would probably also recieve a brief mention as it is one of the bigger Thirteenth Doctor releases (evidenced somewhat by the fact it has recieved physical releases on all major platforms, something that not every ''Doctor Who'' video game recieves). I'm struggling to think, off the top of my head, of any more multi-Doctors between these 2, but it should really come down to whether the story is a significant part of Thirteen's in-universe life or of the real-world era. For something like ''[[The Idiot's Lantern (TV story)|The Idiot's Lantern]]'', I agree that its not particuarly notable either in Ten's life or the real world era. Therefore, I would be tempted to include it, alongside other more minor stories, in the summary somewhat like this: "The Doctor and [[Rose]] continued to travel with each other for a while. During these travels, among other things, they [...], defeated [[the Wire]] in [[1953]] [[London]], ([[TV]]: ''[[The Idiot's Lantern (TV story)|The Idiot's Lantern]]'') [...]." The reason for including it this much would be that the story had a very wide reach due to its television broadcast. I think that's all of the examples you 2 raised. Let me know if I missed any. In general, in my eyes, the summary should be, well, a summary, detailing the largest overall plot points, the broader arcs and the really, really signficant one-offs. Editors already have to make a lot of decisions regarding how content is presented on this wiki and so I trust that we will be able to handle a few more. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:35, 8 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
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