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:: Episodes 8 and 9 wouldn't be liable for coverage (I don't think; I need to rewatch them), as they feature no prior DWU elements, and I don't have access to the second series, so I can't say about that for sure. [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]] 18:40, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | :: Episodes 8 and 9 wouldn't be liable for coverage (I don't think; I need to rewatch them), as they feature no prior DWU elements, and I don't have access to the second series, so I can't say about that for sure. [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]] 18:40, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
First off, I'll express my support for covering the entirety of ''Roland'' episode 2. We've known [[Untitled (1986 TV story)]] wasn't an ident for some time now so I'm grateful this forum thread is rectifying that to allow us to properly document the complete product. | |||
As for a potential ''Thunderbirds'' inclusion debate, I don't know. As the person responsible for the coverage of the vast majority of Anderverse material on this Wiki, I'm not convinced it's a good idea. Excluding a few adverts and the like, I fully believe everything from ''[[TV Century 21]]''{{'}}s first 104 issues (the timeframe of ''[[The Daleks (series)|The Daleks]]'' comic strip) passes Rule 4 with flying colours. I believe the same is implicitly true of onscreen ''Thunderbirds'' (at least up to the first film) considering the strong connections on the production side of things and that it theoretically passes [[T:VS]]. However, isn't that what the Thunderbirds Wiki is for? Aside from the appearance of [[Brent Cleever|Agent 21]] in ''30 Minutes After Noon'' and perhaps the televised appearances of the ''[[Fireflash]]'' and the ''[[Junglecat]]'', I struggle to see how Tardis really gains anything from duplicating the TB Wiki's information. | |||
A related area from which I think the Wiki would benefit improving is the aforementioned first 104 issues of ''TV21''. During this era of the magazine the notion of each issue's contents being an issue of [[TV Century 21 (in-universe)|an in-universe ''TV Century 21'']], a serious [[newspaper]] from the [[2060s]] intended to be read by special agents, was ''incredibly'' strong. There are running threads throughout each issue to such an extent that I've seriously considered in the past whether the best and most faithful way to cover this material would be to consider individual issues e.g. [[TV Century 21 No. 1 Universe Edition]] as sources in their own right, made up of lots of different parts. We'd still have articles such as [[The Penta Ray Factor (comic story)]] for a place to discuss serialised stories as a whole but especially with the advent of {{tlx|cite source}} this would help stuff from falling through the cracks. The reason I think this would be beneficial for the Wiki is that under the current set-up some ''TV21'' stories pass Rule 4 but not Rule 2, as in they utilise no pre-existing [[Doctor Who universe|''Doctor Who'' universe]] elements. This is very frustrating for in-universe coverage due to the interconnected of ''TV21''. To take an example I attempted to wikify recently, the ''Stingray'' story ''The Monster Jellyfish'' (published in #1-#7) isn't currently covered but is freely referenced in the following concurrently-released things we do cover: all three parts of ''[[Genesis of Evil (comic story)|Genesis of Evil]]'', ''[[Stingray Attacked! (short story)|Stingray Attacked!]]'', ''[[Fireball Surrenders! (short story)|Fireball Surrenders!]]'', ''[[Power Play (comic story)|Power Play]]'' Part 1, ''[[Titan Declares War! (short story)|Titan Declares War!]]'' and ''[[Marineville Waits! (short story)|Marineville Waits!]]''. I've tried my best on pages like [[Sam Shore]] but it's not ideal. | |||
Sorry, ''Thunderbirds'' tangent over. I don't think I'm in support of covering the other episodes of ''Roland Rat''. I sympathise with Anastastia's point about the lack of documentation available for the series but I don't think that should override our validity policies. A beefy expansion of [[Roland Rat: The Series (series)]] is the most we're responsible for, in my opinion. To invoke another Anderverse example, I'd say these supposed DWU elements are comparable to [[FAB 2]]'s debut in ''[[The Man from MI.5 (TV story)|The Man from MI.5]]''. [[Iris Rat]] and [[Freddy Rat]] seem to me to be ''Roland Rat: The Series'' concepts first appearing in a ''Roland Rat: The Series'' episode and then reappearing in further ''Roland Rat: The Series'' episodes. The fact that the [[Sixth Doctor]] (or in the case of FAB 2, the [[Dalek]]s) appeared briefly in their debut is incidental and does not necessarily affect the DWUness of these concepts. [[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:48, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
