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::I hope this helps you to understand the simple concepts...because everyone else pretty much already got it since the beginning... --[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.110|222.166.181.110]] 14:41, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ::I hope this helps you to understand the simple concepts...because everyone else pretty much already got it since the beginning... --[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.110|222.166.181.110]] 14:41, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::1. I've never said he did it deliberately... just that he dropped River off there. | :::1. I've never said he did it deliberately... just that he dropped River off there. | ||
:::2. They only no longer arrived due to time being reversed... but ''after'' it had happened. | :::2. They only no longer arrived due to time being reversed... but ''after'' it had happened. | ||
:::3. Did you read my post? I was talking about the YTNW. '''IT''' was a forked timeline. | :::3. Did you read my post? I was talking about the YTNW. '''IT''' was a forked timeline. | ||
::::Look. My very original point in the River Rory forum was the fact that we don't know where River came from at the end of the Big Bang. If by then she had already lived through the series 6 events having known Rory, it must have been after the Pandorica Opens but before the wedding. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 15:09, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ::::Look. My very original point in the River Rory forum was the fact that we don't know where River came from at the end of the Big Bang. If by then she had already lived through the series 6 events having known Rory, it must have been after the Pandorica Opens but before the wedding. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 15:09, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::1. "Knowing River caused his re-existence as he knew she had given Amy her diary, he drops her off so she can give Amy the diary and cause him to re-exist, bringing us back to point number 2." | |||
::::2 +3. I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying something more sensical. The problem with what you said is that there is no Toclafane invasion, thus it is called the Year that NEVER WAS. However, it still makes no sense either to travel to another point other than the pivotal event that forms the paths or any event before that. Once the Doctor have taken one path in the timeline, traveling directly to another point on another path would mean travelling across onto another possibility. This is equivalent to saying that the Doctor could use the TARDIS to travel from a June 26, 2010 3:00AM where he is with Amy to another June 26, 2010 3:00AM where Amy never existed and he is married to Rose due to events he/others have taken. This would make the entire show pretty meaningless | |||
::::3. So are you now abandoning the idea that this theory you came up with is a simple forked timeline as you have stated? You'll need to rephrase/rewrite everything to accomodate for that...because it's an entirely different model now. | |||
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::::"Look. My very original point in the River Rory forum was the fact that we don't know where River came from at the end of the Big Bang. If by then she had already lived through the series 6 events having known Rory, it must have been after the Pandorica Opens but before the wedding." | |||
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::::Don't you think it's a bit far-fetched and meaningless for discussion? You speculated an entire situation where River at the end of TBB had already lived through Series 6, which is not supported by any on screen evidence or indicated by anything and is completely speculative, and you say that if she lived through it then she must have lived through it and you know that there will be logical flaws but no one understand the rules of time so it's pointless to discuss. You are asking us to assume an entire made-up scenario, and you say that if the consequence happened then it must have happened. People point out rationales that directly contradict the possibility of the scenario given your reasoning, then you say anything could happen. I don't know how to help you understand this but when something doesn't contribute, it's a spam. --[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.74|222.166.181.74]] 15:53, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
