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:::::DOCTOR: Have we met? I’m sorry, my memory isn’t what it was.<br />I shed most of it a long time ago.<br />THE MAN: Met? Oh, I’d say so. Believe it or not, we used to know<br />each other quite well.<br />DOCTOR [with recognition?]: Good grief.<br />THE MAN: Ah. Spoken like the man I used to know.<br />DOCTOR: You’ve lost that terrible beard, then.<br />THE MAN: But of course. I have whatever it is you lack. And vice<br />versa. Have you forgotten? Oh, I’m so sorry. You’ve forgotten<br />everything, haven’t you? [Irony?]<br />DOCTOR: You’re behind all this? No, of course you’re not. Not<br />your style at all.<br />THE MAN: Here, Doctor, I’m simply a guest. Thank you for the<br />invitation, by the way. Most touching. Admittedly, I would have<br />preferred something more personal. . .<br />DOCTOR: And would you mind telling me what that rosette’s<br />meant to be?<br />THE MAN: A sign of my allegiance to the great Whig cause. I’ve<br />become an exponent of democracy.<br />DOCTOR: Why does that not sound convincing?<br />THE MAN: My dear Doctor, I’m telling you the truth. I told you. I<br />have to offer the universe whatever you can’t. If you’ve decided to<br />take on the colours of your new sweetheart, then it’s up to me to<br />side with the Opposition. Perhaps one day you’ll consider destroying<br />the universe. Then I’ll be in the awkward position of saving<br />it.<br />DOCTOR: You don’t expect me to believe that, surely?<br />THE MAN: Your friend in red came closest to the truth. What does<br />she call you, again? Her ‘elemental champion’? Very perceptive of<br />her. There are only four of us left now, you know. Four of us in all<br />of the universe. We have certain standards to uphold.<br />DOCTOR: Then I suppose you’re going to say that you don’t want<br />to kill me.<br />THE MAN: It’s hardly the time for that any more, wouldn’t you<br />agree? While our kind still walked tall, we had the whole of space<br />and time as our battlefield. These days, I’m afraid our little duels<br />would be utterly meaningless. You’ve met Sabbath, of course.<br />DOCTOR: Yes. He reminds me of you. I think.<br />THE MAN: How interesting. He reminds me of you. Our replacement,<br />Doctor. The new breed. All our kind in one, and a mere<br />human being, too. We can hardly return to our old routines, with<br />his kind in charge. Can we?<br />DOCTOR: I’m sick. I’m helpless. You must know that.<br />THE MAN: I rather think that’s my point. Do your duty Doctor.<br />However tedious it may be. Save the universe. Become King of<br />Time. Go after that irritating black object in the sky. Whatever<br />you think is necessary. Once you’ve done that. . . well, perhaps<br />the universe will be ready for us again, who can say? Then we can<br />set about destroying each other properly. Otherwise, I’m afraid<br />this is hardly our arena any more.
:::::DOCTOR: Have we met? I’m sorry, my memory isn’t what it was.<br />I shed most of it a long time ago.<br />THE MAN: Met? Oh, I’d say so. Believe it or not, we used to know<br />each other quite well.<br />DOCTOR [with recognition?]: Good grief.<br />THE MAN: Ah. Spoken like the man I used to know.<br />DOCTOR: You’ve lost that terrible beard, then.<br />THE MAN: But of course. I have whatever it is you lack. And vice<br />versa. Have you forgotten? Oh, I’m so sorry. You’ve forgotten<br />everything, haven’t you? [Irony?]<br />DOCTOR: You’re behind all this? No, of course you’re not. Not<br />your style at all.<br />THE MAN: Here, Doctor, I’m simply a guest. Thank you for the<br />invitation, by the way. Most touching. Admittedly, I would have<br />preferred something more personal. . .<br />DOCTOR: And would you mind telling me what that rosette’s<br />meant to be?<br />THE MAN: A sign of my allegiance to the great Whig cause. I’ve<br />become an exponent of democracy.<br />DOCTOR: Why does that not sound convincing?<br />THE MAN: My dear Doctor, I’m telling you the truth. I told you. I<br />have to offer the universe whatever you can’t. If you’ve decided to<br />take on the colours of your new sweetheart, then it’s up to me to<br />side with the Opposition. Perhaps one day you’ll consider destroying<br />the universe. Then I’ll be in the awkward position of saving<br />it.<br />DOCTOR: You don’t expect me to believe that, surely?<br />THE MAN: Your friend in red came closest to the truth. What does<br />she call you, again? Her ‘elemental champion’? Very perceptive of<br />her. There are only four of us left now, you know. Four of us in all<br />of the universe. We have certain standards to uphold.<br />DOCTOR: Then I suppose you’re going to say that you don’t want<br />to kill me.<br />THE MAN: It’s hardly the time for that any more, wouldn’t you<br />agree? While our kind still walked tall, we had the whole of space<br />and time as our battlefield. These days, I’m afraid our little duels<br />would be utterly meaningless. You’ve met Sabbath, of course.<br />DOCTOR: Yes. He reminds me of you. I think.<br />THE MAN: How interesting. He reminds me of you. Our replacement,<br />Doctor. The new breed. All our kind in one, and a mere<br />human being, too. We can hardly return to our old routines, with<br />his kind in charge. Can we?<br />DOCTOR: I’m sick. I’m helpless. You must know that.<br />THE MAN: I rather think that’s my point. Do your duty Doctor.<br />However tedious it may be. Save the universe. Become King of<br />Time. Go after that irritating black object in the sky. Whatever<br />you think is necessary. Once you’ve done that. . . well, perhaps<br />the universe will be ready for us again, who can say? Then we can<br />set about destroying each other properly. Otherwise, I’m afraid<br />this is hardly our arena any more.
:::::[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revanvolatrelundar]] 15:46, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
:::::[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revanvolatrelundar]] 15:46, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
I give several marks for dedication to type that out. (I have by the way read ''Henrietta Street'', all the EDAs in fact more than twice for all except ''The Domino Effect'' to ''The Gallfifrey Chronicles'' which I've read once)
...But...the article I think should stay named as it is, but it can say something along the lines of 'dialogue between the Doctor and the Man suggests they have a history; the Man stating...' and add a quote from somewhere here.
I '''don't think''' the article should be renamed "The Master (The Adventuress of Henrietta Street)". But if there's any further information out there that ties the Master to the Man or vice versa then that can be stated.
But looking at the dialogue and pretending not to know about the Master, what's learned from this exchange is the Man is of the same creed as the Doctor - a Time Lord and that they operated on opposing sides. Without supporting evidence it could be anyone. But it is ''suggestive'' of being the Doctor.
We also need to acknowledge that ''Henrietta Street'' isn't written in the conventional style, but in faux-historical text, so there may be liberties taken with what's described. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 16:18, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
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