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Yeah, sorry about that. Didn't even realize until after you fixed it. Figured he should have gone above the TBA folks, didn't know if the announced order for the actor was more important than the character itself. --[[User:Witoki|Witoki]] 16:38, February 25, 2011 (UTC) | Yeah, sorry about that. Didn't even realize until after you fixed it. Figured he should have gone above the TBA folks, didn't know if the announced order for the actor was more important than the character itself. --[[User:Witoki|Witoki]] 16:38, February 25, 2011 (UTC) | ||
==Whoa== | ==Whoa== | ||
Hey, does the site look totally "unglued" to you right now? I'm not seeing much in the way of formatting at the moment. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | Hey, does the site look totally "unglued" to you right now? I'm not seeing much in the way of formatting at the moment. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''17:44:56 Mon '''28 Feb 2011 </span> | ||
:Heh, never mind. As soon as I sent that message to you, things snapped back into place. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | :Heh, never mind. As soon as I sent that message to you, things snapped back into place. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''17:46:47 Mon '''28 Feb 2011 </span> | ||
==Big toc== | ==Big toc== | ||
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And, yes, there is a known inequality in the way the various TV infoboxen are coded. That's why a part of the redesign is to eliminate the various infoboxen into a single TV box, a single audio box, a single novel box, a single comics box, and the like. Get all the code in one place and maintenance is extraordinarily easier. But that's a few days away yet. | And, yes, there is a known inequality in the way the various TV infoboxen are coded. That's why a part of the redesign is to eliminate the various infoboxen into a single TV box, a single audio box, a single novel box, a single comics box, and the like. Get all the code in one place and maintenance is extraordinarily easier. But that's a few days away yet. | ||
In the meantime, know that <nowiki>{{tl|big toc}}</nowiki> is automatic. And I apologize that you've wasted some time; if I thought anyone was actually going to be hand editing that, I would have put up warnings before the change. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | In the meantime, know that <nowiki>{{tl|big toc}}</nowiki> is automatic. And I apologize that you've wasted some time; if I thought anyone was actually going to be hand editing that, I would have put up warnings before the change. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''18:45:22 Mon '''28 Feb 2011 </span> | ||
:Hmmm, your last message has me worried. You're speaking in the future tense as if you don't see this change is already on the site. Did you not notice while you were placing these <nowiki>{{tl|big toc}}</nowiki> s around that the contents were ''already'' on the right? If not, can I ask you to please clear your cache and look at the site again? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | :Hmmm, your last message has me worried. You're speaking in the future tense as if you don't see this change is already on the site. Did you not notice while you were placing these <nowiki>{{tl|big toc}}</nowiki> s around that the contents were ''already'' on the right? If not, can I ask you to please clear your cache and look at the site again? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''19:04:32 Mon '''28 Feb 2011 </span> | ||
::The only effect using <nowiki>{{tl|big toc}}</nowiki> would now have on pages is to force the TOC to appear at the point of insertion, as I've just done to your page. (Revert by deleting big toc from your page) In the case of this page, that's an obvious difference. However, on a lot of other pages, especially those with infoboxen, it wouldn't make much of a visible difference, because the infobox is going to wrestle it down underneath it, so long as you don't completely ''bury'' big toc in the depths of the article. Just adding anywhere from the top of the page to, say, the end of the lead, isn't gonna do diddly, really. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ::The only effect using <nowiki>{{tl|big toc}}</nowiki> would now have on pages is to force the TOC to appear at the point of insertion, as I've just done to your page. (Revert by deleting big toc from your page) In the case of this page, that's an obvious difference. However, on a lot of other pages, especially those with infoboxen, it wouldn't make much of a visible difference, because the infobox is going to wrestle it down underneath it, so long as you don't completely ''bury'' big toc in the depths of the article. Just adding anywhere from the top of the page to, say, the end of the lead, isn't gonna do diddly, really. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''19:32:58 Mon '''28 Feb 2011 </span> | ||
:::Heh, well, big toc will move the toc on your page ''if'' your page hadn't specified the TOC element within your archive box. I've temporarily removed the forced TOC to demonstrate. You can put it back after you note the effect. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | :::Heh, well, big toc will move the toc on your page ''if'' your page hadn't specified the TOC element within your archive box. I've temporarily removed the forced TOC to demonstrate. You can put it back after you note the effect. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''19:36:17 Mon '''28 Feb 2011 </span> | ||
==Drop down== | ==Drop down== | ||
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*anything that is used as a valid alternate name in the lead of an article. [[Tony Head]] and [[season 27]], etc., were all emboldened in the leads of articles. '''Any time an alternate name for the topic is emboldened in a lead, it automatically ''requires'' a redirect based on that name.''' Doesn't matter if it's never linked to. As a valid alternate name for the topic, it must lead people to that article if they type it in the search box. Simple as that. Also, you may not personally like calling new series by a seasonal name, but this battle was fought long before you joined the wiki. You're subverting a compromise reached long ago. If you don't like references to "season 28" or "season 30", fine — but you'll definitely need a forum discussion to change current compromise. As things stand, the series number gets preference, but the season numbers are valid redirects. | *anything that is used as a valid alternate name in the lead of an article. [[Tony Head]] and [[season 27]], etc., were all emboldened in the leads of articles. '''Any time an alternate name for the topic is emboldened in a lead, it automatically ''requires'' a redirect based on that name.''' Doesn't matter if it's never linked to. As a valid alternate name for the topic, it must lead people to that article if they type it in the search box. Simple as that. Also, you may not personally like calling new series by a seasonal name, but this battle was fought long before you joined the wiki. You're subverting a compromise reached long ago. If you don't like references to "season 28" or "season 30", fine — but you'll definitely need a forum discussion to change current compromise. As things stand, the series number gets preference, but the season numbers are valid redirects. | ||
'Course, I didn't undo ''everything'' you deleted today. But you might want to consider these points before going through another round of deletion. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | 'Course, I didn't undo ''everything'' you deleted today. But you might want to consider these points before going through another round of deletion. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''01:14:13 Sat '''05 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
==Policy inconsistency== | ==Policy inconsistency== | ||
You've recently completely unprotected [[The King's Dragon]] without explanation. I'd like one, please, considering that multiple admins have been trying to protect the creation of [[Touched by an Angel]] (and [[Touched By An Angel]], for that matter). The former book comes out in July, the latter in August. What's the difference? Both are future publications, but one is only slightly ''less'' in the future than the other. | You've recently completely unprotected [[The King's Dragon]] without explanation. I'd like one, please, considering that multiple admins have been trying to protect the creation of [[Touched by an Angel]] (and [[Touched By An Angel]], for that matter). The former book comes out in July, the latter in August. What's the difference? Both are future publications, but one is only slightly ''less'' in the future than the other. | ||
Please justify your actions in light of [[tardis:spoiler policy]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | Please justify your actions in light of [[tardis:spoiler policy]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''00:01:22 Sun '''06 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
::Thanks for explaining. And for catching my error. I could've sworn Amazon said 2011, but going back to check, it appears that it didn't. That'll teach me to sit too far away from my monitor. Thanks again :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ::Thanks for explaining. And for catching my error. I could've sworn Amazon said 2011, but going back to check, it appears that it didn't. That'll teach me to sit too far away from my monitor. Thanks again :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''15:43:58 Sun '''06 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
==Moving images== | ==Moving images== | ||
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*[http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Bio_damper Bio dampers] appeared numerou'''r'''s times, they debuted in [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/DW DW]: ''[http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Runaway_Bride The Runaway Bride]''. [[User:Fbultimatrix|Fbultimatrix]] 11:38, March 7, 2011 (UTC) | *[http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Bio_damper Bio dampers] appeared numerou'''r'''s times, they debuted in [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/DW DW]: ''[http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Runaway_Bride The Runaway Bride]''. [[User:Fbultimatrix|Fbultimatrix]] 11:38, March 7, 2011 (UTC) | ||
{{please see|Is The Curse of Fatal Death canon?}} {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | {{please see|Is The Curse of Fatal Death canon?}} {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''20:05:03 Fri '''11 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
==Names of Episodes one and two== | ==Names of Episodes one and two== | ||
Thanks for finding the actual tweets for the eppisodes thanks :) [[User:AdricLovesNyssa|AdricLovesNyssa ]] | Thanks for finding the actual tweets for the eppisodes thanks :) [[User:AdricLovesNyssa|AdricLovesNyssa ]] | ||
==Template editing== | ==Template editing== | ||
Hey, just to let you know, ''every'' template will eventually be touched by the site redesign. I don't want to discourage you from learning things about how templates work or color design theory, so it may be that you might gain some knowledge as you tinker. On the other hand, I don't want you to feel badly if you see your changes swept away when the code of templates becomes more reliant on CSS. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | Hey, just to let you know, ''every'' template will eventually be touched by the site redesign. I don't want to discourage you from learning things about how templates work or color design theory, so it may be that you might gain some knowledge as you tinker. On the other hand, I don't want you to feel badly if you see your changes swept away when the code of templates becomes more reliant on CSS. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''20:40:04 Mon '''14 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
==NA== | ==NA== | ||
[[ | [[PROSE]]s can actually have this character information on their pages. Please don't remove it. Thanks----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 09:42, March 15, 2011 (UTC) | ||
==Quotations== | ==Quotations== | ||
You removed a quotation from [[Melanie Bush]] last month and said in your revision note that it was against MOS. I've replaced your deletion because: | You removed a quotation from [[Melanie Bush]] last month and said in your revision note that it was against MOS. I've replaced your deletion because: | ||
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May I request that you please '''read the MOS and/or policy pages''' before you take action on what you ''think'' they contain. As an admin, you, me, Skittles — '''we''' — have an especial burden to be ''right'' about our policies. | May I request that you please '''read the MOS and/or policy pages''' before you take action on what you ''think'' they contain. As an admin, you, me, Skittles — '''we''' — have an especial burden to be ''right'' about our policies. | ||
I don't really fancy going through your contribution history to find other instances where you mistakenly removed quotations. Therefore, can I ask you to try to remember where else you might have removed quotes like the one at [[Mel]]? Any such deletions need to be reverted ASAP. Thanks :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | I don't really fancy going through your contribution history to find other instances where you mistakenly removed quotations. Therefore, can I ask you to try to remember where else you might have removed quotes like the one at [[Melanie Bush|Mel]]? Any such deletions need to be reverted ASAP. Thanks :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''15:34:34 Thu '''17 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
{{Please see|Should novels & audio stories have a plot description?}} --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 14:38, March 23, 2011 (UTC) | {{Please see|Should novels & audio stories have a plot description?}} --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 14:38, March 23, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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Taking all that on board, if you're ''really'' thinking the headers need revision, there are some compromises we could go for. One thing is that the headers aren't really "big" in a font-height sense. They're w i d e . I've put in letter-spacing, which is not typically done on most wikis. I could dial that back a little. And we could drop the actual font size down minimally. | Taking all that on board, if you're ''really'' thinking the headers need revision, there are some compromises we could go for. One thing is that the headers aren't really "big" in a font-height sense. They're w i d e . I've put in letter-spacing, which is not typically done on most wikis. I could dial that back a little. And we could drop the actual font size down minimally. | ||
But I really don't want to give up on the basic design ethos of sans-serif cap headings/serif body text. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} <span | But I really don't want to give up on the basic design ethos of sans-serif cap headings/serif body text. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''21:15:14 Wed '''23 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
:Okay, i did indeed reign in the h2 headlines so that there's not as much space between letters. This will reduce the effective size of the top-level header by 2/5ths. As for collission, I still don't see what you're talking about. I've zoomed in and out to the full extent of both Safari and Firefox, and I get '''no''' collision at all. Here's a pic of the sort of "average zoom" level for you to compare with your own results. If your browser isn't giving something like this result, then it may be an indication that you, somehow, haven't actually cleared your cache. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''22:43:33 Wed '''23 Mar 2011 </span> | |||
::Hey, thanks for the screenshot so quickly. I'm not seeing any problems with it though. I don't detect any sort of collision in the screenshot. Oh, wait there is a tiny area of collision at your name in the upper right, isn't there? Okay, let me ask you this. Is this the ''normal'' zoom in Chrome? Or have you zoomed in a bit? And if you've zoomed, how have you done so? See, in Firefox, you ''can'' get into trouble when you choose to zoom "text only". By the very name of the command, it should be obvious that "zoom text only" means that you're distorting the text versus the rest of the page. If you uncheck that selection, and then zoom ''the whole page'' in or out '''in proportion''', you'll never get collision. At least not so far as I can detect. I spent a lot of time on the wikia header bar checking for just this problem, and as far as I can see it's a robust design. Neither I nor any programmer can code things to prevent a page from strange effects when the text and page sizes are ''deliberately'' changed by the user to be out of synch with one another. Go to ''any'' Wikia wiki page, try the trick of Firefox zooming with text only, and you'll be disappointed by the results. Obviously, you're using Chrome, not Firefox, but you should check to see ''how'' you're zooming. ~~ | ::Hey, thanks for the screenshot so quickly. I'm not seeing any problems with it though. I don't detect any sort of collision in the screenshot. Oh, wait there is a tiny area of collision at your name in the upper right, isn't there? Okay, let me ask you this. Is this the ''normal'' zoom in Chrome? Or have you zoomed in a bit? And if you've zoomed, how have you done so? See, in Firefox, you ''can'' get into trouble when you choose to zoom "text only". By the very name of the command, it should be obvious that "zoom text only" means that you're distorting the text versus the rest of the page. If you uncheck that selection, and then zoom ''the whole page'' in or out '''in proportion''', you'll never get collision. At least not so far as I can detect. I spent a lot of time on the wikia header bar checking for just this problem, and as far as I can see it's a robust design. Neither I nor any programmer can code things to prevent a page from strange effects when the text and page sizes are ''deliberately'' changed by the user to be out of synch with one another. Go to ''any'' Wikia wiki page, try the trick of Firefox zooming with text only, and you'll be disappointed by the results. Obviously, you're using Chrome, not Firefox, but you should check to see ''how'' you're zooming. ~~ | ||
:::Please clear your cache (yes, again) and report your findings. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | :::Please clear your cache (yes, again) and report your findings. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''23:20:30 Wed '''23 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
::::By the way, we are just talking about the little bit of collision between your name and the three wikia drop down menus, right? You didn't send a screenshot of the menus themselves, so I assume that's not actually a problem for you anymore? And since you're using Chrome, may I suggest you go [http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=96810 here] and try the second way of zooming that's described on the page? We want to test zooming everything on the page and not just the size of the fonts on the page. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ::::By the way, we are just talking about the little bit of collision between your name and the three wikia drop down menus, right? You didn't send a screenshot of the menus themselves, so I assume that's not actually a problem for you anymore? And since you're using Chrome, may I suggest you go [http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=96810 here] and try the second way of zooming that's described on the page? We want to test zooming everything on the page and not just the size of the fonts on the page. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''23:40:02 Wed '''23 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
:::::Okay, clear your cache yet again. I've reduced the width of the three Wikia dropdown headers by half, and returned the dropdown lists underneath to an almost out-of-the-box state. The only styling placed there now is color and font, which is only imperceptibly different than the default Arial. If you're getting any collision in this area, honestly, it's because of some kind of setting on your end. I stress again the importance of understanding the difference between the two types of zoom that most modern browsers now offer. One will distort text and one will not. If you're '''now''' still experiencing distorted text with the top bar, I wouldn't immediately have an idea why — other than your own settings. Nevertheless, if you ''are'' still having problems, please take a screenshot and let me see. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | :::::Okay, clear your cache yet again. I've reduced the width of the three Wikia dropdown headers by half, and returned the dropdown lists underneath to an almost out-of-the-box state. The only styling placed there now is color and font, which is only imperceptibly different than the default Arial. If you're getting any collision in this area, honestly, it's because of some kind of setting on your end. I stress again the importance of understanding the difference between the two types of zoom that most modern browsers now offer. One will distort text and one will not. If you're '''now''' still experiencing distorted text with the top bar, I wouldn't immediately have an idea why — other than your own settings. Nevertheless, if you ''are'' still having problems, please take a screenshot and let me see. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''00:09:26 Thu '''24 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
::Oh yah! One important question. When you zoom in, and the text gets larger, does the page scroll off the right side of the screen? Or is the page width unaffected by zooming? That is, do you get a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom of the page when you zoom, or . . . not? If you're '''not''' getting a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom of the page, then you're zooming in a way that code can't help. | ::Oh yah! One important question. When you zoom in, and the text gets larger, does the page scroll off the right side of the screen? Or is the page width unaffected by zooming? That is, do you get a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom of the page when you zoom, or . . . not? If you're '''not''' getting a horizontal scrollbar at the bottom of the page, then you're zooming in a way that code can't help. | ||
::Here's another test. If you zoom and the stetson thing on the background really zooms out of view, then you're zooming "correctly". If the stetson thing basically ''doesn't'' move, then you're just zooming the ''text'' on the page, and warping/collision is going to happen. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ::Here's another test. If you zoom and the stetson thing on the background really zooms out of view, then you're zooming "correctly". If the stetson thing basically ''doesn't'' move, then you're just zooming the ''text'' on the page, and warping/collision is going to happen. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''00:19:05 Thu '''24 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
::::I'm really glad to hear that things are looking better for you now. Thanks '''very much''' for your help in diagnosing a problem that wasn't obvious to me. Don't be afraid to speak up again if something isn't working for you. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ::::I'm really glad to hear that things are looking better for you now. Thanks '''very much''' for your help in diagnosing a problem that wasn't obvious to me. Don't be afraid to speak up again if something isn't working for you. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''17:37:21 Thu '''24 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
== Firefox "problems" == | == Firefox "problems" == | ||
Hiya :) Thanks for your questions. I'm gonna try to answer which ones I can, but there are some for which I need more visual evidence from you. My general thoughts, though, are that you seem to be citing an awful lot of examples from the [[series 6 (Doctor Who)]] page. Please remember that this is an extremely high traffic page which attracts the attention of people with various levels of skill at coding things. You should in general not expect things to look "right" on this page, as people tend to markup this page with "what works for them" rather than using the MediaWiki language with skill. Don't use this page, in other words, to judge whether your browser is "working". That said, here are my responses: | Hiya :) Thanks for your questions. I'm gonna try to answer which ones I can, but there are some for which I need more visual evidence from you. My general thoughts, though, are that you seem to be citing an awful lot of examples from the [[series 6 (Doctor Who 2005)]] page. Please remember that this is an extremely high traffic page which attracts the attention of people with various levels of skill at coding things. You should in general not expect things to look "right" on this page, as people tend to markup this page with "what works for them" rather than using the MediaWiki language with skill. Don't use this page, in other words, to judge whether your browser is "working". That said, here are my responses: | ||
*The guest cast table is the laziest damn piece of table-making I've ever seen. I'm sure Google Chrome doesn't recognize the border, because it's only defined with a single character — %. Firefox accepts that laziness, but other browsers don't. Nothing's "wrong" with Firefox, ''per se''. It's just accepting a value of "%", where other browsers don't. If you take away the '''border = "%"''' then you won't see a border in Firefox. Conversely, if you define it sensibly with an actual numeric value, line thickness, and line type — then Chrome (and every browser) ''will'' see it. | *The guest cast table is the laziest damn piece of table-making I've ever seen. I'm sure Google Chrome doesn't recognize the border, because it's only defined with a single character — %. Firefox accepts that laziness, but other browsers don't. Nothing's "wrong" with Firefox, ''per se''. It's just accepting a value of "%", where other browsers don't. If you take away the '''border = "%"''' then you won't see a border in Firefox. Conversely, if you define it sensibly with an actual numeric value, line thickness, and line type — then Chrome (and every browser) ''will'' see it. | ||
*I'm not seeing that the episode table on this page runs episodes 10 and 11 together so they appear as a two parter. The code in this area seems sound. Could you take a screenshot to show me what you're talking about? | *I'm not seeing that the episode table on this page runs episodes 10 and 11 together so they appear as a two parter. The code in this area seems sound. Could you take a screenshot to show me what you're talking about? | ||
*I'm unfamiliar with any "aliens and enemies of series x pages" that put a list into columns. The template pages don't generally use columns, and those are the only "aliens and enemies of series x pages" of which I'm aware. Could you provide me with links to the pages that are giving you grief? (I will say, however, that if you're talking about the pages in the category [[:category:Aliens Navigation templates]] — don't worry, they're all being ''completely'' recoded within the next few days. | *I'm unfamiliar with any "aliens and enemies of series x pages" that put a list into columns. The template pages don't generally use columns, and those are the only "aliens and enemies of series x pages" of which I'm aware. Could you provide me with links to the pages that are giving you grief? (I will say, however, that if you're talking about the pages in the category [[:category:Aliens Navigation templates]] — don't worry, they're all being ''completely'' recoded within the next few days. | ||
Final thought for now: You ''are'' going to find that the wiki looks slightly different in Firefox. It looks different in ''every'' browser. But the areas that you see differently are particularly important to note and screenshoot. Such observations are ''invaluable'' (to me, anyway) as they help identify which coding practices are cross-platform compatible, and which are not. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | Final thought for now: You ''are'' going to find that the wiki looks slightly different in Firefox. It looks different in ''every'' browser. But the areas that you see differently are particularly important to note and screenshoot. Such observations are ''invaluable'' (to me, anyway) as they help identify which coding practices are cross-platform compatible, and which are not. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''12:51:45 Sat '''26 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
::What version of Firefox are you using? That looks most unusual. (If you're using a bleeding-edge Beta version, all bets are off as to precise rendering.) Also, does '''every''' infobox look like this to you, or is it only {{tl|infobox Individual}}? In my Firefox, I don't experience this problem on the Amy Pond page (or any page). I do note, however, there was a coding problem on the Amy Pond page, in that the editor who made the infobox with that ridiculous unorder list structure failed to close the list properly. I've closed it properly now. Does that affect your view of this page positively? | ::What version of Firefox are you using? That looks most unusual. (If you're using a bleeding-edge Beta version, all bets are off as to precise rendering.) Also, does '''every''' infobox look like this to you, or is it only {{tl|infobox Individual}}? In my Firefox, I don't experience this problem on the Amy Pond page (or any page). I do note, however, there was a coding problem on the Amy Pond page, in that the editor who made the infobox with that ridiculous unorder list structure failed to close the list properly. I've closed it properly now. Does that affect your view of this page positively? | ||
::As for the table on the series 6 page, you are again getting different results to me. To determine whether this is a problem with {{tl|prettytable}}, might I suggest that you go to that template, see what links to it, and go to other pages that use it? That way, we can immediately determine whether it is the template itself, or something funky on the plague-ridden series 6 page. | ::As for the table on the series 6 page, you are again getting different results to me. To determine whether this is a problem with {{tl|prettytable}}, might I suggest that you go to that template, see what links to it, and go to other pages that use it? That way, we can immediately determine whether it is the template itself, or something funky on the plague-ridden series 6 page. | ||
::All I can tell you at this point in the investigation is that it's clearly something particular to your setup. If this was more widespread, I'd have had everyone and their mother on my talk page by now. Tangerineduel in particular would've noticed missing gridlines. Saying that it's a problem unique to you, though, is not the same as saying it's not worth looking at. We could well learn something valuable about your case that will strengthen overall coding. Or at the very least help us to judge the utility of a particular version of Firefox. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ::All I can tell you at this point in the investigation is that it's clearly something particular to your setup. If this was more widespread, I'd have had everyone and their mother on my talk page by now. Tangerineduel in particular would've noticed missing gridlines. Saying that it's a problem unique to you, though, is not the same as saying it's not worth looking at. We could well learn something valuable about your case that will strengthen overall coding. Or at the very least help us to judge the utility of a particular version of Firefox. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''17:04:02 Sat '''26 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
:::Well, upgrade if you think you must, but do so only through the update feature within Firefox. Don't update manually to a beta version. As for the specific problems you're seeing, there's no such thing as a "random" problem on a computer. There's always a repeatable problem. To resolve this, you just have to be systematic about it. For instance, you say that {{tl|prettytable}} seems to be wrong on every page, but that "different" lines disappear on different pages. If you take screenshots of these various problems, we should be able to diagnose it. {{tl|prettytable}}, let's remember, is a ''very'' old template here, so I've never looked at it to any great degree. Since you're the only one experiencing the problem (apparently), you've got to do the research yourself, unfortunately. But if you provide the evidence, I'll try to help provide a solution. | :::Well, upgrade if you think you must, but do so only through the update feature within Firefox. Don't update manually to a beta version. As for the specific problems you're seeing, there's no such thing as a "random" problem on a computer. There's always a repeatable problem. To resolve this, you just have to be systematic about it. For instance, you say that {{tl|prettytable}} seems to be wrong on every page, but that "different" lines disappear on different pages. If you take screenshots of these various problems, we should be able to diagnose it. {{tl|prettytable}}, let's remember, is a ''very'' old template here, so I've never looked at it to any great degree. Since you're the only one experiencing the problem (apparently), you've got to do the research yourself, unfortunately. But if you provide the evidence, I'll try to help provide a solution. | ||
:::Also, you didn't quite answer my question before. Has the Amy Pond page resolved? And you've now identified {{tl|infobox Individual}} and {{tl|infobox Species}} as posing a problem for you. Can you test other infoboxes and tell me which ones are working perfectly for you? | :::Also, you didn't quite answer my question before. Has the Amy Pond page resolved? And you've now identified {{tl|infobox Individual}} and {{tl|infobox Species}} as posing a problem for you. Can you test other infoboxes and tell me which ones are working perfectly for you? | ||
:::We ''can'' fix this, but we have to figure it out methodically. And unfortunately, the burden is kinda on you to do most of the leg work. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | :::We ''can'' fix this, but we have to figure it out methodically. And unfortunately, the burden is kinda on you to do most of the leg work. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''17:41:44 Sat '''26 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
==Torchwood== | ==Torchwood== | ||
What I removed was "[[James Marsters]] has stated he would like to return as [[John Hart]] for the new series." Would you rather have it as "[[James Marsters]] may return as [[John Hart]] for the new series."? --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:blue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 23:53, March 26, 2011 (UTC) | What I removed was "[[James Marsters]] has stated he would like to return as [[John Hart (Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang)|John Hart]] for the new series." Would you rather have it as "[[James Marsters]] may return as [[John Hart (Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang)|John Hart]] for the new series."? --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:blue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 23:53, March 26, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:PS: I like your guidelines at the top of your TP. Could I copy/paste those guidelines onto my TP? I think they're a nice caution not covered in the welcome template. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:blue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 23:57, March 26, 2011 (UTC) | :PS: I like your guidelines at the top of your TP. Could I copy/paste those guidelines onto my TP? I think they're a nice caution not covered in the welcome template. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:blue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 23:57, March 26, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:The reason I removed it was that it wasn't ''really'' a rumor at all. The man said he would ''like'' to come back, and that is that. It doesn't say anything one way or the other about whether he really ''is'' coming back. We don't even know if there is a ''possibility'' for him coming back, we just know that the actor ''wants'' to reappear. However, if we rephrase the "rumor" so that it sounds like a rumor, then that's fine with me. Also, thanks for letting me use your guidelines. :) --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:blue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 18:07, March 27, 2011 (UTC) | :The reason I removed it was that it wasn't ''really'' a rumor at all. The man said he would ''like'' to come back, and that is that. It doesn't say anything one way or the other about whether he really ''is'' coming back. We don't even know if there is a ''possibility'' for him coming back, we just know that the actor ''wants'' to reappear. However, if we rephrase the "rumor" so that it sounds like a rumor, then that's fine with me. Also, thanks for letting me use your guidelines. :) --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:blue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 18:07, March 27, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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==Italics== | ==Italics== | ||
Remember to put titles in italics. For example: ''[[A Textbook of Botany]]''.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 17:38, March 28, 2011 (UTC) | Remember to put titles in italics. For example: ''[[A Textbook of Botany]]''.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 17:38, March 28, 2011 (UTC) | ||
{{please see|Aliens and enemies templates: the final battle}} {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | {{please see|Aliens and enemies templates: the final battle}} {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''16:37:06 Tue '''29 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
== Can you help me? == | == Can you help me? == | ||
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== Stubs/Navbox problems == | == Stubs/Navbox problems == | ||
I'm not at all experiencing anything you're describing, and I haven't messed with the CSS today at all. That would be required to cause the effects you seem to be describin. Stubs are still on the outside of the page, and there's no great amount of whitespace in navboxes. Screenshots, please. But even without those screenshots, it sounds like you're experience a "wikia storm" — a temporary instance of the CSS being entirely bypassed by a bug at the wikia level. That happened for me a lil earlier today, but it self-corrected. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | I'm not at all experiencing anything you're describing, and I haven't messed with the CSS today at all. That would be required to cause the effects you seem to be describin. Stubs are still on the outside of the page, and there's no great amount of whitespace in navboxes. Screenshots, please. But even without those screenshots, it sounds like you're experience a "wikia storm" — a temporary instance of the CSS being entirely bypassed by a bug at the wikia level. That happened for me a lil earlier today, but it self-corrected. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''20:22:19 Wed '''06 Apr 2011 </span> | ||
Noticed your problem on Czech's page. I had the same problem earlier. I went to preferences and saved the settings (I didn't make any changes). This solved it for me, it may work for you.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 20:33, April 6, 2011 (UTC) | Noticed your problem on Czech's page. I had the same problem earlier. I went to preferences and saved the settings (I didn't make any changes). This solved it for me, it may work for you.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 20:33, April 6, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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:Here's the simple test for deciding if it's a wikia problem. Check the color and font of "Recent Wiki Activity". If it doesn't look like the below image then you have a wikia problem, not anything wrong with tardis itself. | :Here's the simple test for deciding if it's a wikia problem. Check the color and font of "Recent Wiki Activity". If it doesn't look like the below image then you have a wikia problem, not anything wrong with tardis itself. | ||
[[file:RWA.jpg|center]] | [[file:RWA.jpg|center]] | ||
:Clearing the cache can't hurt, but it likely won't help a wikia problem. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | :Clearing the cache can't hurt, but it likely won't help a wikia problem. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''20:51:10 Wed '''06 Apr 2011 </span> | ||
::I just had it briefly happen to me, too. Yeah, wikia's definitely being funky today. Don't worry; it'll pass. Second time (for me) in the last 8 hours. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ::I just had it briefly happen to me, too. Yeah, wikia's definitely being funky today. Don't worry; it'll pass. Second time (for me) in the last 8 hours. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''21:08:56 Wed '''06 Apr 2011 </span> | ||
== Please stop editing stub pages == | == Please stop editing stub pages == | ||
Thanks for the helping hand, but please stop editing stub pages. You're creating edit conflicts which are disturbing the bot's progress. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | Thanks for the helping hand, but please stop editing stub pages. You're creating edit conflicts which are disturbing the bot's progress. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''16:06:14 Fri '''08 Apr 2011 </span> | ||
== The Impossible Astronaut == | == The Impossible Astronaut == | ||
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Thanks for the suggestions. I probably will move to make a book and film stub, though I'm not quite sure yet how to distinguish between in-universe books and oou books — visually I mean. The curse of this new method is that you've got to be able to capture the idea in a 25px icon, and I'm not sure how to do that with books yet. It'll come to me eventually. | Thanks for the suggestions. I probably will move to make a book and film stub, though I'm not quite sure yet how to distinguish between in-universe books and oou books — visually I mean. The curse of this new method is that you've got to be able to capture the idea in a 25px icon, and I'm not sure how to do that with books yet. It'll come to me eventually. | ||
What do you mean by "item" though? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | What do you mean by "item" though? {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''20:32:38 Mon '''11 Apr 2011 </span> | ||
:Oh, hmm, yeah, I still don't know about "item" though. What kinda icon would you use? I think it's a lil too general to represent. It's okay for the stub category to have ''some'' articles in it. I think it's down to 27 articles, which is pretty good from its high around 400 or so. | :Oh, hmm, yeah, I still don't know about "item" though. What kinda icon would you use? I think it's a lil too general to represent. It's okay for the stub category to have ''some'' articles in it. I think it's down to 27 articles, which is pretty good from its high around 400 or so. | ||
:As for clothing, the template has actually been created, but the picture hasn't yet. The tie's a good idea, though, I'll probably use that, or maybe a scarf. Something vertical anyway. It hasn't been too much of a priority, though, as we don't have an article that currently needs such a stub. :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | :As for clothing, the template has actually been created, but the picture hasn't yet. The tie's a good idea, though, I'll probably use that, or maybe a scarf. Something vertical anyway. It hasn't been too much of a priority, though, as we don't have an article that currently needs such a stub. :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''21:00:58 Mon '''11 Apr 2011 </span> | ||
== Video on series 6 page == | == Video on series 6 page == | ||
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I was adding in a screencap and genuine OFFICIAL information on them and their purpose. They are not an external force alone anymore, its | I was adding in a screencap and genuine OFFICIAL information on them and their purpose. They are not an external force alone anymore, its commonly known fact that they are a species with frightening intentions. | ||
[[User:ThePandoricaOpens666|ThePandoricaOpens666]] 16:34, April 14, 2011 (UTC) | |||
== spoiler policy behind the scenes == | |||
Hi. I was just looking at the spoiler policy and there is nothing about adding info to behind the scenes sections on character pages. I just thought I should tell you because some things that I have posted in behind the scenes sections on numerous character pages have been reverted, while others have been left as they are, and at the time with me being in the early stages of editing, I was confused. I think it just needs to be explained. Thanks. [[User:Ghastly9090|Ghastly9090]] 16:59, April 14, 2011 (UTC) | |||
== spoiler policy behind the scenes == | |||
Hi. I was just looking at the spoiler policy and there is nothing about adding info to behind the scenes sections on character pages. I just thought I should tell you because some things that I have posted in behind the scenes sections on numerous character pages have been reverted, while others have been left as they are, and at the time with me being in the early stages of editing, I was confused. I think it just needs to be explained. Thanks. [[User:Ghastly9090|Ghastly9090]] 16:59, April 14, 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Ta == | |||
Thanks. Nice work with the images.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 21:14, April 14, 2011 (UTC) | |||
=="Unused" images== | |||
I will reiterate what I've said to you before: just because an image is ''currently'' unusued is not a reason, in and of itself, to delete it. This is especially true now that CSS is being used. When you link an image through CSS, it ''appears'' that the image doesn't link to anything. For instance, we both know that [[:file:transferring.jpg]] appears on many pages, but the file page indicates that no pages link to the photo. | |||
More to the point, just because something isn't used ''now'' doesn't mean it might not be used in the future. Again, [[:file:transferring.jpg]] is an excellent example. I originally put it on the disambig template, then got rid of it for a few months, then put it back in through CSS. I would have been ''pissed'' if someone had deleted it, because it took a while for me to screencap it, and I don't have it on this computer anymore. (Granted, I'm an admin now, so I have more facilities at my disposal to find deleted images. But were it deleted when I wasn't an admin, I'd have pitched holy hell.) | |||
If I could get you to refocus your energies on getting rid of ''duplicates'', that's where the real cleanup needs to be done. I've created a page at [[Tardis:Duplicate images]] to help with that task. I've also seen you deleting images on the basis of quality, and that's very useful indeed. So please continue in that vein. But please don't delete just on the basis of an image being unusued. As the principal creator of images for the site, I can tell you that the scraps of photos that aren't being used are often the most useful for creating new site maintenance images. | |||
Now, of course I'm reacting with my own biases here, and I can understand we might need compromise. I'm prepared to admit that you may well have a point — there could be a ''lot'' of total crap that needs to be cleared out. So if you get through cleaning up the duplicates and you ''really'' want to move on to unused images, can I at least ask for right of review? Maybe you could slap them with {{tl|delete}}, giving me time to review them for future suitability? Perhaps we could agree that you wouldn't actually delete the files but say on the first Monday of every month? I've seen some gems in the delete pile before, such as the image or Rose that's in the main graphic at [[companion]]. It would be a shame to lose a great pic just because it wasn't being used ''on the day that you came across it''. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''16:23:28 Fri '''15 Apr 2011 </span> | |||
== What the hell? == | |||
Hi there; I'd you you to take this opportunity to explain [http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=The_Hand_of_Fear&action=historysubmit&diff=568853&oldid=568850 this revert]. -[[User:Ashley Pomeroy|Ashley Pomeroy]] 17:45, April 15, 2011 (UTC) | |||
{{Please see|Can we disable visual editor please?}} <br> {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}20:08: Tue 20 Dec 2011 </span> | |||
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