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:No. I'm not saying that. But given the evidence we have, including eye witnesses, a good lawyer could get her off. But that's not the gist of my point. Attend, please. I am not saying she didn't kill the Doctor. I'm saying that the evidence we need to put it on the page is not present. This keeps getting said again and again and we keep getting it wrong. How much of your time did you spend correcting false 'information' concerning the Silence being a species? I know that I rewrote the section on the Doctor teaching River how to fly the TARDIS in light of the last episode. Such gaffes will happen from time to time anyway, but it is the official policy of this wiki that we depend on what we see onscreen. Did you see Sydney Wade's face at Lake Silencio? I didn't. Until we do, or the face of someone credited onscreen as River Song or Melody Pond or whatever she's called, then it is not a fact. It's speculation. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 01:47, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | :No. I'm not saying that. But given the evidence we have, including eye witnesses, a good lawyer could get her off. But that's not the gist of my point. Attend, please. I am not saying she didn't kill the Doctor. I'm saying that the evidence we need to put it on the page is not present. This keeps getting said again and again and we keep getting it wrong. How much of your time did you spend correcting false 'information' concerning the Silence being a species? I know that I rewrote the section on the Doctor teaching River how to fly the TARDIS in light of the last episode. Such gaffes will happen from time to time anyway, but it is the official policy of this wiki that we depend on what we see onscreen. Did you see Sydney Wade's face at Lake Silencio? I didn't. Until we do, or the face of someone credited onscreen as River Song or Melody Pond or whatever she's called, then it is not a fact. It's speculation. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 01:47, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:We KNOW that the Doctor dies. FACT. We saw that happen. We KNOW that River will kill the Doctor. FACT. (Or at least as far as we know from the current story.) What MORE do you need? As far was we know, River was in the suit because she was the one that killed the Doctor. Until we get any more info that prove me wrong, we need to stick with the facts. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 23:22, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ::We KNOW that the Doctor dies. FACT. We saw that happen. We KNOW that River will kill the Doctor. FACT. (Or at least as far as we know from the current story.) What MORE do you need? As far was we know, River was in the suit because she was the one that killed the Doctor. Until we get any more info that prove me wrong, we need to stick with the facts. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 23:22, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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:You never read any murder mysteries, did you? [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 23:28, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | :::You never read any murder mysteries, did you? [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 23:28, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:You didn't answer me. ''As far as we know'', River was in the suit. That is what the episodes have shown, and that is what we need to display until we have further information. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 23:35, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | :::::You didn't answer me. ''As far as we know'', River was in the suit. That is what the episodes have shown, and that is what we need to display until we have further information. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 23:35, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:What exactly was wrong with the comprimise solution that others had put up? - It made clear that we haven't seen under the visor yet, so we can't be sure; and it even noted that the data download said River did it - putting "someone" whilst noting that data seems by far the most sensible soution, especially when we have a main writer that likes to play around with our expectations [[User:Baziel|Baziel]] 23:46, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ::::::What exactly was wrong with the comprimise solution that others had put up? - It made clear that we haven't seen under the visor yet, so we can't be sure; and it even noted that the data download said River did it - putting "someone" whilst noting that data seems by far the most sensible soution, especially when we have a main writer that likes to play around with our expectations [[User:Baziel|Baziel]] 23:46, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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:Looks reasonable to me, Baziel. Now, pardon me please, while I try to answer Bold Clone. | :Looks reasonable to me, Baziel. Now, pardon me please, while I try to answer Bold Clone. | ||
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:Building a scenario in which River did not kill the Doctor at Lake Silencio is speculative. However, saying that she absolutely, positively did is also speculative. Sorry.[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 23:51, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | :Building a scenario in which River did not kill the Doctor at Lake Silencio is speculative. However, saying that she absolutely, positively did is also speculative. Sorry.[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 23:51, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:Based of the ''current'' information we have, we ''need'' to say that River killed the Doctor. ''As far as we know'', River was the one who did it. Those are the ''facts'', it ''is'' speculation to say otherwise. That is what the story says, and we would be doing a shoddy job of being "the most accurate Doctor Who wiki" if we did not. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 15:03, September 2, 2011 (UTC) | ::Based of the ''current'' information we have, we ''need'' to say that River killed the Doctor. ''As far as we know'', River was the one who did it. Those are the ''facts'', it ''is'' speculation to say otherwise. That is what the story says, and we would be doing a shoddy job of being "the most accurate Doctor Who wiki" if we did not. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 15:03, September 2, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:::Was it said in the episode "River Song killed the Doctor by Lake Silencio?" No it didn't. It could be she killed the Doctor in what he believes, kills him for what he is (what she told him in AGMGTW). It could also be a red-herring. We don't know who's in the suit, to to say it's River Song is speculation and against the MOS. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 15:08, September 2, 2011 (UTC) | |||
