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well, first things first, i would like to point out to you that the cybermen are not evil. they are humans who have had their bodies replaced with what is basically a robotic body, had their emotions and therefore morals restricted, and generally feel that being a cyberman is better than being a human with pain, discrimination, and so many other negatives that come with being human that don't happen to cybermen and forget the positives and are genuinley surprised when people don't want to be converted, however, the cubermen think they are doing the humans a favour so they keep going. this does not make them evil, they merely do not understand. so there, i just explained why people suddenly become "evil" as soon as they are turned into cybermen. now back to the main point. obviously time can be rewritten, but it is how you view time that determines how. for example, in the multiple time dimentions theory that was discussed previously, it is changed simply by having moved further to the right in time which means that it is harder to destroy events that have already happened to a timetraveler. for example, what happened to the events in dalek after journeys end? in this theory, they still happened, but further to the left of the current timestream, avoiding paradoxes. however, if you believe that time simply changes, then dalek couldn't have happened, meaning the doctor wouldn't have picked up adam which means that it would be less likely that the doctor would have gone to satelite 5 meaning the doctor wouldn't have recognised it in bad wolf/parting of ways as well as he wouldn't have changed it to be that way which would have affected the outcome of the story meaning there is a smaller chance that he regenerated there meaning... basically by errasing an event (not in a cracky way with the consequences still leftover) one can change the characters whole history. now, in my example, the doctor might still have gone to satelite 5, but it would be less likely as the doctor took rose and adam there basically as a date. also, it was in dalek that the doctor realised just how bad guns were, when he realised that by using one, he was no better than a dalek. so, you see, by errasing an event from someones life, you can fundamentally change who they are (even if not immediately) which could cause the event they caused that meant the previous event was errased to not have happened. yet again in this example, if dalek hadn't made the doctor realise how having a gun made him like a dalek, he might of just shot dalek caan preventing TSE/JE to not happen. in a 5(or more)d universe, that event which changed the doctor's character still happened to the left of the current timestream but still in the doctor's timeline which means no paradoxes. so really, although time can be rewritten by sliding to a new timestream to the right of the current one which contains the changes and appears to non 5+d universe thinkers that the timestream they are on has changed or been rewritten, as the "the current timestream has just been changed" theory would lead to some messy consequences which we do not see in the show. [[User:Imamadmad|Imamadmad]] <sup>[[User talk:Imamadmad|talk to me]]</sup> 06:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC) | well, first things first, i would like to point out to you that the cybermen are not evil. they are humans who have had their bodies replaced with what is basically a robotic body, had their emotions and therefore morals restricted, and generally feel that being a cyberman is better than being a human with pain, discrimination, and so many other negatives that come with being human that don't happen to cybermen and forget the positives and are genuinley surprised when people don't want to be converted, however, the cubermen think they are doing the humans a favour so they keep going. this does not make them evil, they merely do not understand. so there, i just explained why people suddenly become "evil" as soon as they are turned into cybermen. now back to the main point. obviously time can be rewritten, but it is how you view time that determines how. for example, in the multiple time dimentions theory that was discussed previously, it is changed simply by having moved further to the right in time which means that it is harder to destroy events that have already happened to a timetraveler. for example, what happened to the events in dalek after journeys end? in this theory, they still happened, but further to the left of the current timestream, avoiding paradoxes. however, if you believe that time simply changes, then dalek couldn't have happened, meaning the doctor wouldn't have picked up adam which means that it would be less likely that the doctor would have gone to satelite 5 meaning the doctor wouldn't have recognised it in bad wolf/parting of ways as well as he wouldn't have changed it to be that way which would have affected the outcome of the story meaning there is a smaller chance that he regenerated there meaning... basically by errasing an event (not in a cracky way with the consequences still leftover) one can change the characters whole history. now, in my example, the doctor might still have gone to satelite 5, but it would be less likely as the doctor took rose and adam there basically as a date. also, it was in dalek that the doctor realised just how bad guns were, when he realised that by using one, he was no better than a dalek. so, you see, by errasing an event from someones life, you can fundamentally change who they are (even if not immediately) which could cause the event they caused that meant the previous event was errased to not have happened. yet again in this example, if dalek hadn't made the doctor realise how having a gun made him like a dalek, he might of just shot dalek caan preventing TSE/JE to not happen. in a 5(or more)d universe, that event which changed the doctor's character still happened to the left of the current timestream but still in the doctor's timeline which means no paradoxes. so really, although time can be rewritten by sliding to a new timestream to the right of the current one which contains the changes and appears to non 5+d universe thinkers that the timestream they are on has changed or been rewritten, as the "the current timestream has just been changed" theory would lead to some messy consequences which we do not see in the show. [[User:Imamadmad|Imamadmad]] <sup>[[User talk:Imamadmad|talk to me]]</sup> 06:15, December 16, 2011 (UTC) | ||
I was just using the Cybermen as an example, but the new ones are just as likely to "delete" people, and the real Cybermen probably killed people more often than they cyber-converted them. Anyway, let's try to avoid getting too far off topic. The Doctor disliked guns since long-before ''Dalek''. The Third Doctor, especially, loved to argue about guns with Lethbridge-Stewart. Anyway, as a Time Lord, the Doctor is obviously immune to time being rewritten no matter what theory the show goes with. He, at the very least, would still remember ''Dalek'', and it is likely that Rose and Adam would as well. Anyway, I don't think that Doctor Who really goes with one single theory about how time travel and time being rewritten works. In the very first episode, I think that Susan said that there were only four or five dimensions. Anyway, Doctor Who goes with whatever theory works best with the particular story. I doubt that the idea of some events being fixed while others are in flux is based around any real life theory, but it is a good way to explain why the Doctor insists that history must not be changed in episodes like ''The Time Meddler'' and ''The Aztecs'', but is able to change time freely in pretty much any episode where he stops some kind of alien invasion. With almost 50 years of incsonsistencies between episodes, I doubt that it is really possible to make sense of the nature of time.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] <sup>[[User talk:Icecreamdif|talk to me]]</sup> 06:47, December 16, 2011 (UTC) | |||
