Talk:Regeneration unit

Name and gross speculation

Can I get a reference for when in Regeneration this term is used? I hear something that sounds like "Regeneration unit", not "Regeneration circuit". Also, this business of "maybe the Time Lords fitted him with . . . " is pure speculation and should be removed, or, rather, put into an italicized, behind-the-scenes note. Nothing in the episode comes anywhere close to suggesting anything of the kind, and it's equally possible to suggest, from the episode, that the "regeneration unit" on the Mk III was simply destroyed in the far greater explosion in the Krillitane oil. One could just as easily speculate that the chances of the regen unit surviving a self-destruct were much greater, because K9 was in control of the explosion. The School Reunion explosion was had many more variables, because it was caused by an external force. Alternately, since the K9 boot screen shows two choices, it's wholly possible the Doctor could have retrieved the regen unit and forced it to return to the original configuration of the dog. There are several possibilities, and the article as it stands is far too presumptive. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 14:54, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

K9 says something like "regeneration unit delog indicates you saved it from damage", it's somewhat hard to tell (it's said at 10 minutes 17 seconds into the episode), it's either "regeneration unit delog" or "regeneration unity log". --Tangerineduel 16:05, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

The regeneration unit shown in Regeneration has an inscription on it that looks very much like Old High Gallifreyan (not the modern Gallifreyan that looks like a lot of circles). Although "maybe the Time Lords fitted him with . . . " certainly is speculation, there is some evidence to support it. That evidence is very far short of proof, of course. --2.96.16.121 22:12, November 29, 2011 (UTC)

The fact that the writing includes "δ³Σx²", which was given as the Doctor's name in The Making of Doctor Who, to me indicates that the intention of the makers of Regeneration was that the Doctor installed it. That may not be conclusive enough to say in the main article text, but I think it's conclusive enough to add in a background note. I need to check The Invisible Enemy to see whether the term is used there for what enables K9 to fight off the influence of the Virus of the Swarm — if it's not called a "regeneration unit" there, that bit should probably be removed, along with the "presumably built by Professor Marius" bit in the infobox. —Josiah Rowe ^{talk to me} 01:14, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Well, k9 still used it to recover in invisble OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 18:03, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Not necessarily. The relevant lines in The Invisible Enemy are:

(after K9 has been infected with the Virus): "K9 into self-regeneration. Non-functional."

and

(explaining to Leela why he attacked her): "I was temporarily overpowered and my motivational circuits were in confusion. I have now regenerated and await your further orders."

I'm not certain that the ability to overcome mental domination and the ability to create a redesigned robot body out of thin air are related. Yes, K9 uses the term "self-regeneration", but I think it's speculative to say that what he did in Invisible Enemy was part of the same function shown on the K9 TV show. How about a note reading something like this:

In The Invisible Enemy, K9 went into "self-regeneration" to recover after being infected by the Swarm. It is not known whether this ability was related to the regeneration unit later shown in the K9 television series.

That way, we can let readers decide for themselves whether the regeneration unit was original to Prof. Marius' design, or an add-on from the Doctor or other Time Lords. —Josiah Rowe ^{talk to me} 19:52, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

The Bob Baker quote seems pretty clearly to imply that K9 didn't have this regeneration unit when he traveled with the Doctor. I'm going to move the bit about K9 "regenerating" in The Invisible Enemy into the behind the scenes section. —Josiah Rowe ^{talk to me} 16:25, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Even if he did not mean to do this on purpose, it still does deserve mention in-universe. What the creator intended, when not indicated on screen, does not madder, which is why The Woman is not The Doctor's Mother and Penelope Gate is. In coincidences like this, we can presume, similar to the CERN case, or Sontar. Thus the note deserves an in-universe mention. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 17:40, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

Tardis

Dose not the Tardis itself regenerate after The Doctor's regenerate's or from whenever it recives serious damage such as the Titanic accident or the Tenth Doctor when he explodes the tardis when he is regenerating into his Eleventh Doctor's incarnation? ~ Awar 15:12, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

• If not can some one add a link at the bottom to a related page about the tardis's version? ~ Awar 15:12, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think that the TARDIS' self-repair function has ever been referred to on-screen as "regeneration". Unless it has, putting a note about that here would be speculative. —Josiah Rowe ^{talk to me} 19:55, May 4, 2012 (UTC)

Properties section

Where do we get the description of the unit's properties from? I haven't seen the last few episodes of K9, where I gather the regeneration unit becomes a plot point again — is it discussed there, or is that paragraph just supposition? —Josiah Rowe ^{talk to me} 16:36, May 11, 2012 (UTC)