Template talk:Companions of the Eleventh Doctor/Archive 1

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Rory

Okay, apparently several episodes with different settings feature a character named Rory, played by Arthur Darvill, who appears to be a companion. But I would support leaving this off til a official announcement. --Golden Monkey 00:37, December 4, 2009 (UTC)

Work?

How exactly does this template work? We're trying to get something liek this on the Animal Crossing wiki, but it's not working. I mean, I copied the source into our Sandbox, but the 'Show'/'Hide' thing doesnt appear. -- Dragonfree 11:28, April 4, 2010 (UTC)

Kazran Sardick and Abigail Pettigrew

I left them under the heading of see also, as they are not really companions but are in the same category as Jackson Lake and Rositia. Mini-mitch 19:45, 27 December, 2010 (UTC)

Possible merging of Auton Rory?

Day of the Moon includes dialogue confirming that Rory Williams remembers his time as an Auton. That would seem to make them the same character. I propose removing "Auton Rory Williams" from the single-adventure category and just leaving the main Rory Williams listed. It's almost like listing young Amy separately, really (and a case could be made for the alternate timeline Amelia featured in The Big Bang using the same criteria as Auton Rory). 68.146.78.43 15:00, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Any reason why Canton was removed?

I added Canton Delaware to the list of Single Adventure companions, but someone removed it. Canton was with the Doctor for a single adventure, and traveled in the TARDIS several times during said adventure.

Comic book section needs to be added

IDW's Doctor Who #8 ends with Kevin - a sentient robotic dinosaur introduced in the When Worlds Collide story arc - joining the TARDIS crew. IDW has confirmed he will be serving as a companion in at least issue #9. So since we include comic strip/comic book companions it's time to start one for the comics. 68.146.71.145 04:04, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

• Kevin also appears in the short strip "Your Destiny Awaits" which chronicles several adventures he takes part in following When Worlds Collide, so that pretty much confirms him as full companion, Frobisher effect or not. 68.146.71.145 13:23, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

Why is Craig Owens not included?

Craig appears in two episodes and is exclusive to the 11th Doctor's incarnation.

Moreover, it is implied in TV:Closing Time that he is a companion, a fact that Craig's page on the official site backs up. I think he is definitely a companion of the Eleventh Doctor. Dakovski ^{talk to me} 04:40, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

He is listed as a companion on the pages TV: The Lodger and TV: Closing Time. So isn't he supposed to be considered a multi-story companion? He should definitely be added to the template. EternalMeister Talk 12:21, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Maybe it's time template was unlocked so people can add Craig (as well as begin a comic strip/book section for Kevin). Also, if there's a Single-Adventure section, then we need to include the companions introduced in A Good Man Goes to War (at the very least Vastra). 68.146.80.110 21:36, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

To answer the original question, yes, I think Craig Owens should be included. The template should not be unlocked as that would just result in any old rubbish being added to it and discussions like this would just be bypassed. I completely disagree with the idea that Vastra or any of the AGMGW-exclusive characters being considered companions. They just turned up, screwed around for a bit, failed to further the plot and then ran off home.--Skittles the hog - talk 15:24, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Well, Craig at the very least needs to be added, as does Dorium Maldovar. I'm also very open to the idea of Vastra being added, though perhaps under a heading of "narratively ambiguous", much like we handle Chang Lee on the Eighth Doctor's template. Thanks to The Wedding of River Song, we've now definitively got an Eleventh Doctor who's lived for very long time of more than 200 years. I think we can assume that he had some sort of companion-like relationship with Vastra in that unexplored gap, otherwise she wouldn't be calling him "old friend". I would agree with Skittles, though, in preventing the Sontaran nurse from being on this list, because there's no real sense that he's doing anything more than serving out a sentence of the Doctor's choosing.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 17:09: Wed 05 Oct 2011 

Kevin (robot) also needs to be added as the IDW comic book series explicitly establishes him as a companion; although technically he appears as one in only two stories (he was more a monster in the first story), the IDW Annual story "Your Destiny Awaits" catalogues a number of adventures Kevin had with Rory, Amy and the Doctor, so there's no room for ambiguity. 68.146.80.110 16:17, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

So, is it all clear to add Craig and Dorium? The page is locked, so not any user can correct this. -- Tybort (talk page) 21:20, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

I came here specifically to add Craig. Admins, please do it. Sean Fennel ^{talk to me} 21:23, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Nefertiti, Riddell and Brian

I think these three should be considered single adventure companions (with Brian being a possible candidate for multiple adventure, given the preview for next week's episode). And while I'm at it, I'd also consider Canton Everett Delaware III a single adventure companion.

It seems to me that the conflict that arises when discussing who is and who isn't a companion, particularly when talking about the revived series, is the divide between those who believe it should be determined by how much a person contributes to an adventure and/or whether they travel in the TARDIS, versus whether their actor is credited in the opening credits or not. I'm in the former camp personally. And I realize that this may be an oversimplification, as it's a complex issue, but I just wanted to bring it up, as it's definitely relevant this season. Memnarc ☎ 04:29, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, this is complex, but it should be addressed. I don't believe that taking a single ride in the TARDIS and sharing an adventure automatically makes you a companion; if so, then Canton needs to be on this template. IMO, "companion" implies a travelling relationship longer than a single trip or adventure. --Bold Clone 05:04, September 16, 2012 (UTC)