User talk:Shambala108/Archive 9

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RE: Page move 2

Hi. Just a question... wouldn't it be more practical to render that ability unable for those who are not admins/caretakers/etc.? I mean, everyone can go in and move a page if they want to. :) --DCLM ☎ 10:32, October 17, 2016 (UTC)

Your input is needed

Hi Shambala108 pal, as you're an experienced administrator and have some very brilliant ideas for thus wiki. I think that your input is needed more then ever at http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:199945#4, thanks best wishes. DENCH-and-PALMER ☎

RE: Page Move

I don't see why that is a rule. The move I did was correct and in no way counter-productive. And since it is a rule, how come the move button is still clickable by non-admins? (Also sorry if this sounded rude, that wasn't my intention) President Borusa ☎ 08:35, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Synopsis

Hey Shambala. One thing I got confused about Tardis:Plagiarism. Can sysopsis be copied from the BBC website and pasted on the wiki? OncomingStorm12th ☎ 21:04, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I see. Thanks. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 00:24, October 24, 2016 (UTC)

Moving pages

Okay. Sorry about that. -- Saxon 13:18, October 27, 2016 (UTC)

Edit to Steven Moffat page

Hello. Can you make this amendment to the lead of the Steven Moffat page to add information from Class? -- Tybort (talk page) 14:10, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Steven Moffat assumed the role of head writer and executive producer of Doctor Who starting with series 5 in 2010, and was also executive producer of Class. The War, Eleventh and Twelfth Doctors are, primarily, his creations. Prior to this, he wrote a number of television stories during Russell T Davies' tenure as executive producer. He remains Doctor Who's most award-winning writer.

Jack Harkness' team

Hey, a week or two ago I created a page for Jack Harkness' team. You gave your reasoning on why you think it wasn't a necessary page, I gave mine, a small debate started on the talk page, but there was no final word on whether the page should be deleted or not. Could you put an conclusion on that (given my reasoning for creating it, and all the rest that was said on the debate)? If decided to keep that page, I intend to create pages for the other Torchwood teams. Thanks. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 19:08, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Hi pal

Why do you think that Pauline Quirke's page should be deleted? She contributed to Who in a officially licensed product. I believe more so than many who have pages here. Best wishes. Denchen ☎ 07:17, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

Images

What happened to the AAAGH images? Best wishes Denchen ☎ 16:43, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

Hello

I understand Shambala108, additionally I did bring the Pinball scene up in the forums and I co-worked with SOTO to create the categories for Pinball. I'm sorry if I've caused any problems. Best wishes. Denchen ☎ 23:21, November 6, 2016 (UTC)

2002

Hey Shambala108, I see that you're looking for the person that added stuff from The Stabber to 2002. I'm just going to say that I got the year 2002 from the story page. CoT ? 04:19, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Hello

Nothing personal, but why did you remove my passage on Tom Baker from WOEITB? Yeah, it's me "Denchen"... I couldn't believe it either. ☎ 23:19, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Apologies

Hi. Don't worry about it. I wasn't even active at that point, so I didn't even notice, and therefore it didn't affect me. But apology accepted anyways. Cheers. --DCLM ☎ 23:52, November 11, 2016 (UTC)

Change your favourite wikis list

Hey Shambala108, you might want to remove the Paul Magrs Wikia from your list of favourite wikis as it basically insults you and all the work you've done at tardis on its front page. CoT ? 01:13, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

Hi. This is the person who made the Paul Magrs wiki. I'm just stopping by (some of) the talk pages TheChampionOfTime has been making these comments on to clarify the concerns s/he has had: You may have noticed that the front page of that wiki refers to the editors of this wiki here as "fascist bastards." That's meant to be tongue in cheek, and not a serious criticism. You may also have noticed that a lot of story pages are shamelessly duplicated from pages on this wiki. That's not plagiarism; I used the Wikia import/export feature to preserve the edit history so that all the authors are properly cited, and the license (CC-BY-SA) is followed. Fwhiffahder ☎ 02:36, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

What?

I'm sorry if I seem rude, I warn you I'm not intending to seem that way. Why undo the other section in the televised cliffhangers section? 1 it's real world so validity should not matter as much and 2 SOTO made edits to that section so he clearly didn't mind it being there so it at least warranted a discussion.

Also why remove the number of serial parts from the BBCi webcasts, even the BBC refer to them as serials?

I'm inclined to believe the other section was removed for a pure hate of invalid sources, well yeah, why not invalid stories aren't the best that's usually why they're invalid but come on. They're cliffhangers, they're real world and if SOTO isn't bothered then it clearly doesn't go against any rules. Anyway best wishes Shambala108. 😊 Yeah, it's me "Denchen"... I couldn't believe it either. ☎ 20:59, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry

I promise you it wasn't a personal attack shambala108, I'm not a nasty person and I'm very sorry it seemed like that. Yeah, it's me "Denchen"... I couldn't believe it either. ☎ 07:29, November 17, 2016 (UTC)

Comma

This is 100% not a dig at you.

In British English, commas can be used to sandwich extra information within a sentence. However every time I do this it gets classed as a run-on sentence. I believe it's called a comma sandwich, I think this should be added to the TARDIS policy. Best wishes. Yeah, it's me "Denchen"... I couldn't believe it either. ☎ 15:47, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Wish to be living in the past

Sorry, I keep defaulting to the present. Especially when I edit the references/continuity sections that require present and ordinary pages that require past. Thanks for correcting. Amorkuz ☎ 23:04, November 21, 2016 (UTC)

2.2 Updated with new information

Shambala108 RE: The Monkey House (audio story) ... I added Jo Grant but I'm sorry, I haven't figured out how to link items yet, first post, was looking it up.

Usefulness in use

Thanks! I didn't know about this. Amorkuz ☎ 06:58, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

whew

"too many open criticisms of policy" is a reason to ban someone? Don't you think that might be a teensy, tiny bit ludicrously over-the-top and draconian? I offer my most sincere apologies if that sounds like I might not be 100% on board - of course I bow, in all matters, to the superior judgement of the Most Glorious and Beneficent Administration.

Yours, most faithfully, Fwhiffahder ☎ 23:38, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Where "friendly advice" is a euphemism for "Don't disagree with admins or you'll be banned." I've tried to follow this wiki's policies. In that thread I was explicitly following the ruling of the original inclusion debate even though I don't agree with it. But apparently that isn't enough - I'm not allowed to disagree with the rules even if I follow them anyway. Are you going to ban me for making this comment? Fwhiffahder ☎ 00:11, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

2016 Cleanup

Hey Shambala108, I've been editting 2016 in regards to your cleanup tag and have reduced each event to one paragraph. Could you have look at the page and decide whether or not it needs more cleanup? CoT ? 00:12, November 29, 2016 (UTC)

The Forgotten

For a long time, the following pages were deemed as comic stories: Amputation, Renewal, Misdirection, Survival, Revelation, Reunion. However, it was clarificated by one of the admin's that they were, actually, just "chapters" of The Forgotten. All ino from the six pages above have been moved to the The Forgotten page, as well as the links. So could you please delete those unnecessary pages? Thanks. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 01:58, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

The Hidden Realm

Why did you change The Hidden Realm (audio story) back to saying that it was written by Guy Adams? The BF website says only The Transcendence of Ephros is by Guy Adams; The Hidden Realm is by David Llewellyn. Fwhiffahder ☎ 22:55, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry

Sorry Shambala 108, I didn't mean to get funny. I appreciate what you've said and that your time is limited. I hope you can forgive me. - Denchen: Lord of Invalidness ☎ 21:54, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

Doctor Adventure

Thanks for the response I understand, however the "it us currently unknown" statement was there before I started editing.

Also as the Doctor did appear in Face Value, would a seperate page or a reedited page ever occur on this wiki?

Anyways, thanks for your time and best wishes. 😊 -- Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid ☎ 07:33, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

A Doctor did appear in Face Value, shall a separate page be created or should the non-DWU part go down to the BTS section? -- Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid ☎ 15:52, December 3, 2016 (UTC)

Excuse me, why did you delete my page The Arrival?

RE: Credit sections for audios

• DWBR = "Doctor Who Bonus Releases" [1]
• DWSR = "Doctor Who Special Releases" [2]

(These are completely separate ranges although I always struggled to define each of them.)

• DWJL is actually present in the spelled out list. It's "Doctor Who Jago & Litefoot"
• SP is "Stageplays" [3]
• Regarding EDA, I think it's 40/32 because initially "Dark Eyes" were assigned to this range, but later separated to a their own range. By now there is yet another range, "Doom Coalition" continuing the story.
• TWBF is "The Worlds of Big Finish" [4], which is not a range but a special crossover release among many ranges.
• DRS is "Diary of River Song"
• One of DWSR seems to be mislabelled. The "Love and War" story is in "Novel Adaptations", not in "Special Releases"

The ranges currently missing from the BF credits template (or at least from the list in the thread):

1. "50th Anniversary" (just one story but several releases of it) [5]
2. "Destiny of the Doctor" (a joint with AudioGo range for the anniversary)
3. "Dark Eyes" (currently included into EDA) [6]
4. "Doom Coalition" [7]
5. "The Early Adventures" [8]
6. "Philip Hinchcliffe Presents" [9]
7. "Excelis" [10]
8. "Novel Adaptations" [11]
9. "New Series" is currently a strange kind of range. It may dissolve into separate ranges in the future

"Short Trips Rarities" should not be added to the project because it is a download-only range (also newer releases of "Short Trips" are download-only).

Miscellaneous notes:

• The range is "Cyberman" not "Cybermen".
• I have no idea what "Real Time" is.
• I couldn't find the files labelled DWJR or DWBL, so not sure what they are. If you point me to a link, I can try to divine this.

Although I barely have any CDs, I'd be happy to provide logistical help for the project. Amorkuz ☎ 14:39, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Amorkus was going to say this, this morning but was running late for work and didn't, just to let both of you know, the reason Love and War is labelled DWSR is because when it was first released it was part of the special releases range, but is now part of the Novel Adaptations. Also Shambala, if a story is part of a boxset then there is often only one set of credits for the whole boxset, so for Charlotte Pollard we have all the credits for it. If I have time this weekend I'll add more. Real Time is part of the Bonus Release Range. Adric♥Nyssa∩Talk? 18:05, December 7, 2016 (UTC)

Spoilers on Vortex issues

Given that Vortex covers aspects about non-DWU ranges of Big Finish (such as Sherlock Homes, Vienna, Blake's 7, etc.), I was wondering how the Tardis:Spoiler policy would apply to these ranges. Should we keep information of non-DWU universe out of the articles until they are released as well? OncomingStorm12th ☎ 02:37, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, as I started with the early issues, it wasn't a real problem so far. When creating VOR 94, the only spoilers were from DWU stories, so it wasn't a problem, actually. Anyway, thanks for the quick response. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 03:04, December 8, 2016 (UTC)

Closed Thread

Please, don't close Thread:205913

I have other questions I want to ask about that thread.

I just don't understand anything and I need an explanation.

Please, open it. Doctor 25 ☎ 13:58, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

No speculation. Only facts

I don't want speculation and theorizing. I want facts. Doctor 25 ☎ 13:32, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

No answers on Discussions

I've tried the discussion board; but no answers. Doctor 25 ☎ 16:08, December 9, 2016 (UTC)

Illustrations from non-narrative sources

I know that non-narrative sources are not to be used when writting in-universe articles, but I was wondering if illustration from these sources can. A few examples:

• On DWM 272 there is an article talking about the Eighth Doctor companions. Alongside the article, there are illustrations, one of which depicts Sam, which doesn't have any images. Would it be acceptable to use this illustration on her page?
• Other illustrations appear to depict events of some Eigth Doctor books (altough, I must admit I'm not familiar with the stories). Could we use those images for articles?
• I don't know if there are any, but suppose a reference book is released with information from books or audio stories, along with illustrations of many characters that were never despicted on the covers. Could these illustrations be used on the character articles?

OncomingStorm12th ☎ 01:10, December 12, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Credits for Big Finish

I know this is a big ask, but is there any way you could perhaps create a list of the remaining items we need? I know I can make some additions, but I'm not sure where. Cult_Of_Skaro Profile|Talk 15:39, December 19, 2016 (UTC)

Your thoughts

I don't know if this is how one goes about it but, what are your thoughts on my nominating User:OncomingStorm12th. See link.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Tardis:User_rights_nominations - Sir DENCH-and-PALMER ☎ 22:27, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Prefix simplification

Reading back over my thread on prefix simplification, I believe I was misunderstood. When I said there should be a prefix to denote all on screen stories, you thought I meant including documentaries, which I did not.

I was thinking maybe the (TV story) dab term for all on screen stories. As J&L said, we don't have "radio story" and "CD story", instead we denote the platform which is, in this case, audio.

I believe the same should be applied to television, such as anything that can be viewed on one. This would include merging Webcast and Home videos with TV.

I mean home video isn't that good a prefix as it stands, it merely denotes how it was released, rather than what it is.

Obviously I'm excluding video games as they're... well... video games.

I wouldn't mind a proper discussion on the matter at some point, as it's a bit "rules for one and rules for the other" with the current prefix system.

On another note, with your 10 day hiatus, the wiki hasn't been the same since. Your inquisitive editing and perfect grammar is missed.

I hope we see you on this wiki again sometime soon which, obviously, you are back if you're reading this.

Best wishes and a happy new year to you pal. Denchen 09:58, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Request

Can you undo CzechBot's conversions at Forum:Why do prefixes link as they do?? As it stands, the conversion makes the thread look completely nonsensical. --Pluto2 (talk) 01:09, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

Edit to Steven Moffat page

Series 4 of Sherlock hasn't quite finished airing yet, but can you amend the Steven Moffat page's "Awards and recognition" section to say this about the 2016 special? -- Tybort (talk page) 13:54, January 11, 2017 (UTC)

During their journeys from London to Cardiff for Doctor Who, Moffat and Mark Gatiss conceived a contemporary update of Sherlock Holmes, called Sherlock. Benedict Cumberbatch was cast as Holmes, with Martin Freeman as Dr Watson. Three series of three 90-minute episodes written by Moffat, Gatiss and Steve Thompson aired in 2010, 2012 and 2014. This was followed by a 2016 New Year's special written by Moffat and Gatiss.

Removing/Deleting posts

I want my posts in the Fact checking category of Doctor Who Discussions to be removed/deleted. Reason: need speculation (opinions and theories). Not facts.

[12] Rose's question of Doctor 9's Northern English accent

[13] Rose's frustration of the TARDIS Translation circuit

[14] David Tennant's accent

[15] Earth-like Gallifrey

[16] Rose not noticing that Mickey is plastic

[17] Black & White

[18] "Doctor, stop being childish."

[19] Regeneration - Changing sex/gender

[20] Regeneration: Subconscious

[21] Second Doctor errors

[22] 12th Doctor is the 13th incarnation?

[23] Peri's Death

[24] Doctor 9's reaction to Rose's changing history

[25] Something special about Christmas

Doctor 25 ☎ 18:28, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

I never thought I'd say this, but I miss you

Hi, I'm starting to think that you were an indispensable part of what was keeping the Wiki orderly. Without you, it feels like it's going to the dogs. Pluto2 moves pages by the dozen and closes threads on forums. User:Дмитрий Куклин creates pages for stories currently under inclusion debates and even for those never discussed at all. I mean this has always been happening from time to time. But now it has gone unnoticed for weeks on end, a whole month in one case. It turns out we are like children and get completely out of hand when adults are not looking. Amorkuz ☎ 13:58, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Validity and Precedent

I'm not calling for the re-opening of the forum -- but your final statement in Thread:179549 bothers me a bit because it's suggesting a precedent which simply does not exist. That is, that "We don't, as a general practice, apply validity retroactively."

This is absolutely not true. The example you mention, of a very old thread, is extremely different from the thread that you were a part of; in that it was discussing a story that broke rule 1 and not rule 4. Not covering a story because it "isn't a narrative" and not covering a story because "there's no solid evidence to put it within the Who Multi-verse" are two entirely different things.

Nothing can make A Fix with Sontarans a story, but something could make Dr. Who and the Daleks an "alternate universe." The discussion was about if the anthology Short Trips and Side Steps did this, and it was an added piece of evidence not previously discussed on this site. Your claim that there were "No new arguments" is simply not true at all -- although again I'm not campaigning for the thread to be re-opened. OS25 (Talk) 10:11, January 30, 2017 (UTC)