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'''''Damned If You Do''''' was the first story of ''[[Echoes Through Eternity]]'' of [[Big Finish Productions]]' ''[[Gallifrey (audio series)|Gallifrey]]'' series. It was written by [[Gary Russell]] and featured [[Narvin]].
'''''Damned If You Do''''' was the first story of ''[[Echoes Through Eternity (audio anthology)|Echoes Through Eternity]]'', marking [[List of anniversaries|20 years]] of the ''[[Gallifrey (audio series)|Gallifrey]]'' series, produced by [[Big Finish Productions]]. It was written by [[Gary Russell]] and read by [[Seán Carlsen]]. It featured [[Narvin]].


== Publisher's summary ==
== Publisher's summary ==
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== Plot ==
== Plot ==
''to be added''
[[Romana II|President Romana]] has recently passed an [[edict]] permitting off-worlders to study on [[Gallifrey]], prompting [[Narvin]] and the other [[Celestial Intervention Agency|CIA]] [[coordinator]]s to petition the [[High Council]], [[Inner Council]] and [[Supreme Council]] to intercede without success. After [[Matthias|Lord Matthias]] informs him that [[Darkel]] will not be joining them in opposing Romana, he receives a call from his the eager CIA [[cadet]] [[Kransa]], who lets him know that [[Chancellor Valyes]] has summoned the two of them to [[Sector 72]] near the site of a Free Time [[bombing]]. He suspects that she is lying about her being invited as well, but he is reminded of himself as a cadet and is amused by Valyes's surprise when she joins them in the sector. Some students, Valyes informs him, have vanished into the catacombs and need to be located to avoid repercussions whilst others were found examining the [[Untempered Schism]].
 
Narvin leads Kransa to the catacombs and deduces that a [[Time Lord]] of the first or second rank must have led the students down there given that the entrance is hidden with a [[perception filter]]. He leaves a [[homing beacon]] near the entrance so they can find their way back and they begin their search, the [[anti-intrusion particle]]s in the [[air]] triggering their [[fear]] centres. As they do so, Narvin asks Kransa about her past to assuage her nerves and learns that she moved to [[the Capitol]] from the lowly [[Red Forest Conurbations]] after her father had an accident at a [[manufactory mill]]. He notices that the brickwork seems to be moving and wonders if the catacombs are part of the [[APC Net]], but Kransa breaks his concentration when they reach the five immobile students. The [[Shade of Portent]], a [[Time Shade]], reveals that it has frozen time around them and does so for Kransa as well.
 
The Shade of Portent explains that it drew Narvin to the catacombs because of how important he will prove to the future of Gallifrey and that it intends to place information in his mind to ensure he takes the correct path. It shows him parts of the future: visits to [[parallel universe]]s, himself handing a [[Time Ring]] to [[Valyes]], being accused of starting the [[Time War]] and running towards a building as a [[planet]] is seemingly destroyed. It tells him that there is a price for knowledge and he forgets their encounter as Kransa and the students are unfrozen, after which he leads them back to Valyes and [[Heron (Damned If You Do)|Tutor Heron]]. He briefly remembers Kransa and the Time War, but the only thing that sticks with him is the burning planet and, in moments of stress, Kransa's name.


== Characters ==
== Characters ==
* [[Narvin]]
* [[Narvin]]
* [[Matthias]]
* [[Kransa]]
* [[Kransa]]
* [[Matthias]]
* [[Valyes]]
* [[Valyes]]
* [[Time Shade]]
* [[Shade of Portent]]
* [[Heron (Damned If You Do)|Heron]]


== Worldbuilding ==
== Worldbuilding ==
* [[Gallifrey]] rarely has [[storm]]s.
* According to [[Valyes]], [[Heron (Damned If You Do)|Castellan Heron]] managed to avert a disaster when [[Free Time]] attacked the records office.
* [[Matthias]] is a [[consul]] and was once part of the [[Celestial Intervention Agency]].
* Narvin has personalised the sounds that his [[wrist communicator]] makes.
* [[Kransa]] is [[Patrexian]].
* CIA [[cadet]]s from [[Prydonian Chapter|Prydon]] are always difficult and eager to please.
* Narvin remembers training under [[Vansell]].
* The Catacombs are tended to by Time Lords on their final incarnation.
* The Catacombs are tended to by Time Lords on their final incarnation.
* Kransa is from east Gallifrey where there are no [[Great Houses]].
* The catacombs are protected by [[anti-intrusion particle]]s which trigger people's fear centres.
* Kransa is from the [[Red Forest Conurbations]] in [[East Gallifrey]] where there are no [[Great Houses]]. Her father worked in a manufactory.
* Valyes rhetorically asks if the student anticipated encountering [[Great Vampire]]s, [[Vortisaur]]s or [[Krafayis]].
* The Shade of Portent accuses Narvin of [[egomania]].


== Notes ==
== Notes ==
''to be added''
* [[Seán Carlsen]] recorded ''Damned If You Do'' remotely. ([[BFX]]: ''Echoes Through Eternity'')
* This story is set during [[Series 2 (Gallifrey)|series 2]] of the audio series. Whilst [[Valyes]] being [[Chancellor]] means that the story is set during or after {{cs|Insurgency (audio story)}}, no mention is made of [[Leela]] being in charge of the academy's security, [[Darkel]] openly opposing [[Romana II|Romana]]'s presidency nor [[Irving Braxiatel|Braxiatel]] having been exiled.


== Continuity ==
== Continuity ==
* Narvin is angry about President [[Romana II|Romana]]’s recent admittance of aliens to the Academy and is supportive of Inquisitor [[Darkel]]’s opposition to it, as first depicted in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Lies (audio story)}}.
* Narvin is angry about President [[Romana II|Romana]]'s recent admittance of aliens to [[Time Lord Academy|the Academy]] and is supportive of Inquisitor [[Darkel]]’s ongoing opposition to it, as first depicted in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Lies (audio story)}}.
* Narvin recalls the [[founders of Gallifrey]] including [[Rassilon]], [[Omega]] and “the others”.
* Narvin recalls the [[founders of Gallifrey]] including [[Rassilon]], [[Omega]] and "the others".
* Narvin recalls [[Rexin|his uncle]]’s transgressions, as first established in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Transference (audio story)}}, and wonders if [[Braxiatel]] is aware of this past.
* Narvin remembers what Coordinator [[Vansell]] was like, as his superior in the [[Celestial Intervention Agency|CIA]]. Vansell was first introduced in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|The Sirens of Time (audio story)}}, and met his end in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Neverland (audio story)}}, set before the ''[[Gallifrey (audio series)|Gallifrey]]'' series.
* Narvin is showed a vision of his future including him giving Valyes a [[time ring]], as depicted in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Ascension (audio story)}}, divergences and parallel realities, alluding to his travels in [[Axis]] depicted from [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Reborn (audio story)}} to {{cs|Extermination (audio story)}}, and many [[Daleks]] and himself wearing leather, alluding to his fighting in the [[Time War]] for [[The resistance (Deception)|the resistance]] as depicted in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|The First Days of Phaidon (audio story)}}, {{cs|Collaborators (audio story)}} and {{cs|Ambition's Debt (audio story)}}.
* Narvin recalls [[Rexin|his uncle]]'s transgressions, as first established in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Transference (audio story)}}, and wonders if [[Braxiatel]] is aware of this past.
* Narvin knows that the Time Shades come from the time of the [[Great Wars]]. This evokes the "Great War" of ancient Gallifreyan history, the name given for the [[Time Lord-Vampire War]] in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Zagreus (audio story)}}.
* Narvin is showed a vision of his future including him giving Valyes a [[time ring]], as depicted in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Ascension (Gallifrey audio story)}}, divergences and parallel realities, alluding to his travels in [[Axis]] depicted from [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Reborn (audio story)}} to {{cs|Extermination (audio story)}}, and many [[Daleks]] and himself wearing leather, alluding to his fighting in the [[Time War]] for [[the resistance (Deception)|the resistance]] as depicted in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|The First Days of Phaidon (audio story)}}, {{cs|Collaborators (audio story)}} and {{cs|Ambition's Debt (audio story)}}.
* [[The Catacombs]] are indicated to be [[the Vaults]] seen in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Lies (audio story)}}. They also resemble [[the Cloisters]] as seen in [[PROSE]]: {{cs|The Four Faces of Immortality (short story)}}.
* The [[Shade of Portent]], having a gold-clad body made of shadow with a head that is a black globe of a material resembling glass, resembles [[Shayde]], first seen in [[COMIC]]: {{cs|The Tides of Time (comic story)}}.


== External links ==
== External links ==
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Damned If You Do was the first story of Echoes Through Eternity, marking 20 years of the Gallifrey series, produced by Big Finish Productions. It was written by Gary Russell and read by Seán Carlsen. It featured Narvin.

Publisher's summary[[edit]]

CIA Coordinator Narvin is unwillingly called upon to find some lost students - aliens admitted to the hallowed Academy. But when Narvin and Cadet Kransa enter the Catacombs, nothing will be the same...

Plot[[edit]]

President Romana has recently passed an edict permitting off-worlders to study on Gallifrey, prompting Narvin and the other CIA coordinators to petition the High Council, Inner Council and Supreme Council to intercede without success. After Lord Matthias informs him that Darkel will not be joining them in opposing Romana, he receives a call from his the eager CIA cadet Kransa, who lets him know that Chancellor Valyes has summoned the two of them to Sector 72 near the site of a Free Time bombing. He suspects that she is lying about her being invited as well, but he is reminded of himself as a cadet and is amused by Valyes's surprise when she joins them in the sector. Some students, Valyes informs him, have vanished into the catacombs and need to be located to avoid repercussions whilst others were found examining the Untempered Schism.

Narvin leads Kransa to the catacombs and deduces that a Time Lord of the first or second rank must have led the students down there given that the entrance is hidden with a perception filter. He leaves a homing beacon near the entrance so they can find their way back and they begin their search, the anti-intrusion particles in the air triggering their fear centres. As they do so, Narvin asks Kransa about her past to assuage her nerves and learns that she moved to the Capitol from the lowly Red Forest Conurbations after her father had an accident at a manufactory mill. He notices that the brickwork seems to be moving and wonders if the catacombs are part of the APC Net, but Kransa breaks his concentration when they reach the five immobile students. The Shade of Portent, a Time Shade, reveals that it has frozen time around them and does so for Kransa as well.

The Shade of Portent explains that it drew Narvin to the catacombs because of how important he will prove to the future of Gallifrey and that it intends to place information in his mind to ensure he takes the correct path. It shows him parts of the future: visits to parallel universes, himself handing a Time Ring to Valyes, being accused of starting the Time War and running towards a building as a planet is seemingly destroyed. It tells him that there is a price for knowledge and he forgets their encounter as Kransa and the students are unfrozen, after which he leads them back to Valyes and Tutor Heron. He briefly remembers Kransa and the Time War, but the only thing that sticks with him is the burning planet and, in moments of stress, Kransa's name.

Characters[[edit]]

Worldbuilding[[edit]]

Notes[[edit]]

  • Seán Carlsen recorded Damned If You Do remotely. (BFX: Echoes Through Eternity)
  • This story is set during series 2 of the audio series. Whilst Valyes being Chancellor means that the story is set during or after Insurgency [+]Loading...["Insurgency (audio story)"], no mention is made of Leela being in charge of the academy's security, Darkel openly opposing Romana's presidency nor Braxiatel having been exiled.

Continuity[[edit]]

External links[[edit]]