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I would like to re-propose this page be renamed to "Born Again" (source: [https://archive.org/details/doctorwhocompani0000trib Doctor Who Companions and Allies]). It is also now a relatively widely used title online and amongst fandom. (Also, the very first panel of [[Liberation of the Daleks (comic story)|Liberation of the Daleks]] says "Born Again. Again." which is a deliberate wink to the first time we saw the Doctor looking like David Tennant.) [[User:FractalDoctor|FractalDoctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:41, 20 January 2023 (UTC) | |||
:I'd consider this a hard "no". It has never been released under any title other than ''Children In Need Special''. [[User:Bwburke94|bwburke94]] ([[User talk:Bwburke94|talk]]) 10:15, 9 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: Children in Need special is far too ambiguous. People usually think of Dimensions in Time or Time Crash when those words are uttered. It’s as useless as naming The Christmas Invasion - Christmas Special. RTD refers to it as Born Again in almost every source. He wrote it. That’s what most people know it is as. The current title makes the wiki look silly. | |||
::I don’t think them not being bothered to put the title on the dvd release is a valid enough reason to ignore its title. {{Unsigned|81.108.82.15}} | |||
:::I agree that ''Born Again'' would be a better title. [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:52, 9 February 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::Yeah, alright. This isn't a TV Movie situation where there ''was'' a formal production title that's just inconveniently vague, and where, although most of the fandom calls it "the Movie" or "the TVM", it's (arguably) not ''precisely'' an official "title". This is just an otherwise-genuinely-''untitled'' work, given an actual, tangible, consistent title in later promotional and documentary material. Perhaps there was once not enough evidence, but given the confusion likely to be caused by something as vague as ''Children in Need Special'', '''the time has come to carry out this rename once and for all'''. The redirect can however be retained; anyone looking for a ''different'' CiN Special will get [[Children in Need]] suggested to them by the search bar, so it's not an issue. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 19:12, 2 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
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: | There has been a recent change on the page claiming this: "The Region 1 and Region 4 DVD releases contained the correct version, along with all subsequent Region 2 releases." That last part about all subsequent Region 2 releases is not true at all. I have the Series 1-7 Blu-Ray boxset, and it definitely still has the rough-cut. [[User:Chapmike|Chapmike]] [[User talk:Chapmike|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:51, 29 June 2023 (UTC) | ||
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Born Again[[edit source]]
I would like to re-propose this page be renamed to "Born Again" (source: Doctor Who Companions and Allies). It is also now a relatively widely used title online and amongst fandom. (Also, the very first panel of Liberation of the Daleks says "Born Again. Again." which is a deliberate wink to the first time we saw the Doctor looking like David Tennant.) FractalDoctor ☎ 19:41, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'd consider this a hard "no". It has never been released under any title other than Children In Need Special. bwburke94 (talk) 10:15, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Children in Need special is far too ambiguous. People usually think of Dimensions in Time or Time Crash when those words are uttered. It’s as useless as naming The Christmas Invasion - Christmas Special. RTD refers to it as Born Again in almost every source. He wrote it. That’s what most people know it is as. The current title makes the wiki look silly.
- I don’t think them not being bothered to put the title on the dvd release is a valid enough reason to ignore its title. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.108.82.15 (talk • contribs) .
- I agree that Born Again would be a better title. LauraBatham ☎ 11:52, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah, alright. This isn't a TV Movie situation where there was a formal production title that's just inconveniently vague, and where, although most of the fandom calls it "the Movie" or "the TVM", it's (arguably) not precisely an official "title". This is just an otherwise-genuinely-untitled work, given an actual, tangible, consistent title in later promotional and documentary material. Perhaps there was once not enough evidence, but given the confusion likely to be caused by something as vague as Children in Need Special, the time has come to carry out this rename once and for all. The redirect can however be retained; anyone looking for a different CiN Special will get Children in Need suggested to them by the search bar, so it's not an issue. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 19:12, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
- I agree that Born Again would be a better title. LauraBatham ☎ 11:52, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
Rough-cut[[edit source]]
There has been a recent change on the page claiming this: "The Region 1 and Region 4 DVD releases contained the correct version, along with all subsequent Region 2 releases." That last part about all subsequent Region 2 releases is not true at all. I have the Series 1-7 Blu-Ray boxset, and it definitely still has the rough-cut. Chapmike ☎ 01:51, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
