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: I do agree. It is unfortunate about the misconception that it is in breach of copyrights, but like you said, this page needs to go for now. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>'''Epsilon'''</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 12:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC) | : I do agree. It is unfortunate about the misconception that it is in breach of copyrights, but like you said, this page needs to go for now. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>'''Epsilon'''</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 12:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC) | ||
:: Further, I'll note that [[User:NateBumber/Sandbox/The Minister of Chance (series)]] exists (and I welcome edits from any fellow ''Minister of Chance'' fans) for if and when that decision is reconsidered. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 18:18, 27 May 2021 (UTC) | :: Further, I'll note that [[User:NateBumber/Sandbox/The Minister of Chance (series)]] exists (and I welcome edits from any fellow ''Minister of Chance'' fans) for if and when that decision is reconsidered. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 18:18, 27 May 2021 (UTC) | ||
== Do we cover this? == | |||
There's information from this series on pages, and redlinks from the page, but I just wanted to be absolutely sure before I started wikifying. [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|📢]] 20:37, 17 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:I believe it's an open question as to whether we "cover it as valid" or "cover it as invalid", but either way, we do cover it. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 21:07, 17 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
::The issue is entirely that a random podcast in 2012 allegedly had an interview with Dan Freedman wherein he said that it wasn't part of the DWU. But there doesn't seem to be an archive of this podcast anywhere and we just have [[Talk:Minister of Chance]] on this. (The podcast has since moved to yt but they don't have archives of their older stuff there.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:12, 17 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::Yes, we do cover this, as per [[User:OncomingStorm12th]]'s ruling at [[Talk:Minister of Chance#Clarification needed]]. At the time, this was done as {{tlx|invalid}}, but following the validation of ''[[Death Comes to Time (webcast)|Death Comes to Time]]'' on a Rule 4 By Proxy basis, it has been validated as an extension of that (there were authorial quotes stressing that this was the same Minister as in ''DCtT'' and a continuation of that story; the question was always on whether "the universe of ''DCtT''" counted as the DWU). [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 00:22, 18 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::Valid, wow! How times have changed ☺ – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 02:55, 18 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
Ahah! [https://sites.libsyn.com/20841/doctor-who-podcast-alliance-interview-with-dan-freedman Found it!] Over a year later. Anyhow, I'm ...not sure where Czech got this idea? Freedman explicitly says he talked to the BBC and they were interested at first, he talked to Fry who was interested but too busy, and the following exchange happens. | |||
:Now where does the actual plot of ''The Minister of Chance'' take off, is it set before ''Death Comes to Time'', possibly, or is it in an alternate history to that even? | |||
::Well, can I raise my eyebrows at you through the medium of sound? Wiggle, and try to look mysterious and alluring? [...] That may come out, [...] that may become apparent [around 26:00] | |||
''Maybe'' he's referring to | |||
::That's a kind of taster of the world that they're going to [around 34:30] | |||
There's just ''nothing'' in here aside from that. Yeah yeah, Scrooge already ruled on this. But even without R4bp this should be valid, there's just nothing here. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:35, 27 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
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Deletion[[edit source]]
This does deserve a page in my opinion, as the Minister of Chance originated in the DWU and was later adapted elsewhere. However, there was already a discussion about this and it is currently held as being in breach of copyright so another discussion would be needed to overrule this. RadMatter ☎ 12:19, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- I do agree. It is unfortunate about the misconception that it is in breach of copyrights, but like you said, this page needs to go for now. 12:28, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
- Further, I'll note that User:NateBumber/Sandbox/The Minister of Chance (series) exists (and I welcome edits from any fellow Minister of Chance fans) for if and when that decision is reconsidered. – n8 (☎) 18:18, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
Do we cover this?[[edit source]]
There's information from this series on pages, and redlinks from the page, but I just wanted to be absolutely sure before I started wikifying. Aquanafrahudy 📢 20:37, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- I believe it's an open question as to whether we "cover it as valid" or "cover it as invalid", but either way, we do cover it. – n8 (☎) 21:07, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- The issue is entirely that a random podcast in 2012 allegedly had an interview with Dan Freedman wherein he said that it wasn't part of the DWU. But there doesn't seem to be an archive of this podcast anywhere and we just have Talk:Minister of Chance on this. (The podcast has since moved to yt but they don't have archives of their older stuff there.) Najawin ☎ 22:12, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, we do cover this, as per User:OncomingStorm12th's ruling at Talk:Minister of Chance#Clarification needed. At the time, this was done as {{invalid}}, but following the validation of Death Comes to Time on a Rule 4 By Proxy basis, it has been validated as an extension of that (there were authorial quotes stressing that this was the same Minister as in DCtT and a continuation of that story; the question was always on whether "the universe of DCtT" counted as the DWU). Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 00:22, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
Ahah! Found it! Over a year later. Anyhow, I'm ...not sure where Czech got this idea? Freedman explicitly says he talked to the BBC and they were interested at first, he talked to Fry who was interested but too busy, and the following exchange happens.
- Now where does the actual plot of The Minister of Chance take off, is it set before Death Comes to Time, possibly, or is it in an alternate history to that even?
- Well, can I raise my eyebrows at you through the medium of sound? Wiggle, and try to look mysterious and alluring? [...] That may come out, [...] that may become apparent [around 26:00]
Maybe he's referring to
- That's a kind of taster of the world that they're going to [around 34:30]
There's just nothing in here aside from that. Yeah yeah, Scrooge already ruled on this. But even without R4bp this should be valid, there's just nothing here. Najawin ☎ 08:35, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
