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| [[The Doctor's universe]] | | [[The Doctor's universe]] | ||
| [[TV]]: ''[[An Unearthly Child (TV story)|An Unearthly Child]]'' (1963) | | [[TV]]: ''[[An Unearthly Child (TV story)|An Unearthly Child]]'' (1963) | ||
| The | | The world of which all these realities are differing accounts or alternative versions. Per [[T:NPOV]], each disputed reality has approximately equal claim to representing the "real" account of the Doctor's universe. | ||
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| [[Dr. Who's reality (Dr. Who and the Daleks)]] | | [[Original palimpsest universe]] | ||
| [[NOTVALID]]: ''[[The Pilot Episode]]'' (1963) | |||
| An overwritten reality and potentially the original [[Palimpsest universe|version of history]], suggested by [[Boy (Unnatural History)|the boy]], in which [[the Doctor]] was a [[human]] who came from "[[Planet (An Unearthly Child)|some planet]]" in the [[49th century]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Unnatural History (novel)|Unnatural History]]'') | |||
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| [[The Doctor's reality (An Unearthly Child)]] ("Hartnellverse") | |||
| [[TV]]: ''[[An Unearthly Child (TV story)|An Unearthly Child]]'' (1963) | |||
| The original "continuity" which begins in the very first episode with the [[First Doctor]] played by [[William Hartnell]] in [[Totter's Lane]]. Later developments establish his ability to [[regenerate]], his [[The Doctor's species|disputed origin]] as a [[Time Lord]] from the [[planet]] [[Gallifrey]] and the conflicting accounts of [[The Doctor's early life|incarnations]] preceding the First Doctor. | |||
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| [[John and Gillian's world]] | |||
| [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Klepton Parasites (comic story)|The Klepton Parasites]]'' | |||
| Disputed [[TV Comic]] continuity in which "Dr. Who", based on the First Doctor (William Hartnell) then the [[Second Doctor]] ([[Patrick Troughton]]), travels with [[grandchildren]] [[John Who|John]] and [[Gillian Who|Gillian]]. | |||
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| [[User:MrThermomanPreacher/Yarvelling's reality|Yarvelling's reality]] | |||
| [[COMIC]]: ''[[Genesis of Evil (comic story)|Genesis of Evil]]'' | |||
| Disputed [[TV Century 21]] continuity in which the [[Dalek]]s [[humanoid]] "[[forefather]]s" are the [[Humanoid Dalek|blue-skinned Daleks]] and the [[Dalek War Machine]]s were created by [[Yarvelling]]. Most notably disputed by the introduction of [[Davros]] and the [[Kaled]]s in ''[[Genesis of the Daleks (TV story)|Genesis of the Daleks]]''. Potential connections to both the Hartnellverse and the Cushingverse. | |||
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| [[Dr. Who's reality (Dr. Who and the Daleks)]] ("Cushingverse") | |||
| [[TV]]: ''[[Dr. Who and the Daleks (theatrical film)|Dr. Who and the Daleks]]'' | | [[TV]]: ''[[Dr. Who and the Daleks (theatrical film)|Dr. Who and the Daleks]]'' | ||
| The alternative continuity home to the [[human]] [[Dr. Who (Dr. Who and the Daleks)|Dr. Who]], played by [[Peter Cushing]]. | | The alternative continuity home to the [[human]] [[Dr. Who (Dr. Who and the Daleks)|Dr. Who]], played by [[Peter Cushing]].<ref>Including not just the theatrical films but also ''[[Dr Who and the House on Oldark Moor (short story)|The House on Oldark Moor]]''.</ref> | ||
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| [[The Doctor's reality (Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks)]] | |||
| [[PROSE]]: ''[[Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks (novelisation)|Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks]]'' | |||
| Disputed [[Target novelisation]] continuity in which the Doctor and Susan [[The Doctor and Susan's escape from Gallifrey|settled]] in [[Barnes Common]], along with many other slight or major differences. | |||
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| "Dalek timeline" | | "Dalek timeline" | ||
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| [[TV]]: ''[[Genesis of the Daleks (TV story)|Genesis of the Daleks]]'' | | [[TV]]: ''[[Genesis of the Daleks (TV story)|Genesis of the Daleks]]'' | ||
| The disputed results of the [[Fourth Doctor]]'s interference in the Daleks' early history. | | The disputed results of the [[Fourth Doctor]]'s interference in the Daleks' early history. | ||
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| [[2-D universe]] | |||
| [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Iron Legion (comic story)|The Iron Legion]]'' | |||
| The reality of the [[Doctor Who Magazine]] comic stories. | |||
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| [[Virgin reality]] | |||
| [[PROSE]]: ''[[Timewyrm: Genesys (novel)|Timewyrm: Genesys]]'' | |||
| The reality of the [[Virgin Books]] ''[[Virgin New Adventures|New Adventures]]'', ''[[Virgin Missing Adventures|Missing Adventures]]'', and ''[[Virgin Decalogs|Decalogs]]''. | |||
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| [[Braxiatel Collection's revised timeline]] | |||
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| The divergent continuity of [[Big Finish]]'s ''[[Bernice Summerfield (series)|Bernice Summerfield]]'' series, | |||
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| [[ | | [[Barusa's universe]] | ||
| [[ | | [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Chronicles of Doctor Who? (short story)|The Chronicles of Doctor Who?]]'' | ||
| The | | The universe of the [[Leekley Bible]]. | ||
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| [[The Doctor's reality (The Eight Doctors)]] | |||
| [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Eight Doctors (novel)|The Eight Doctors]]'' | |||
| The reality of the [[BBC Eighth Doctor Adventures]] novels.<ref>Divided into a countable number of epochs, including the [[Blonde Sam timeline]], [[The Relic's timeline]], and [[Infected timeline (Interference)]].</ref> | |||
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| [[Infinity Doctor's reality]] | | [[Infinity Doctor's reality]] | ||
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| [[TV]]: ''[[The Curse of Fatal Death (TV story)|The Curse of Fatal Death]]'' (1999) | | [[TV]]: ''[[The Curse of Fatal Death (TV story)|The Curse of Fatal Death]]'' (1999) | ||
| The divergent continuity home to the [[Ninth Doctor (The Curse of Fatal Death)|Ninth Doctor]] ([[Rowan Atkinson]]) and beyond. | | The divergent continuity home to the [[Ninth Doctor (The Curse of Fatal Death)|Ninth Doctor]] ([[Rowan Atkinson]]) and beyond. | ||
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| [[Positive-time universe]] | |||
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| The reality of [[Big Finish Productions]]' ''[[The Monthly Adventures (audio series)|Monthly Adventures]]'', including [[Eighth Doctor]]'s travels with [[Charley Pollard]]. | |||
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| [[Reality (Auton)]] | |||
| [[TV]]: ''[[Auton (home video)|Auton]]'' | |||
| The reality of the [[Auton Trilogy]]. | |||
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| [[The Doctor's reality (Scream of the Shalka)]] | | [[The Doctor's reality (Scream of the Shalka)]] | ||
| [[NOTVALID]]: ''[[Scream of the Shalka (webcast)|Scream of the Shalka]]'' (2003) | | [[NOTVALID]]: ''[[Scream of the Shalka (webcast)|Scream of the Shalka]]'' (2003) | ||
| The divergent continuity home to the [[Ninth Doctor (The Curse of Fatal Death)|Ninth Doctor]] as played by [[Richard E Grant]]. | | The divergent continuity home to the [[Ninth Doctor (The Curse of Fatal Death)|Ninth Doctor]] as played by [[Richard E Grant]]. | ||
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| [[Auld Mortality's universe]] | |||
| [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Auld Mortality (audio story)|Auld Mortality]]'' | |||
| <ref>Compare other ''[[Doctor Who Unbound]]'' universes, such as the [[Unbound Universe]], [[Parallel universe (Deadline)]], and particularly [[Parallel universe (Full Fathom Five)]], which ties into the main-continuity [[2040 timeline (The Nuclear Option)]] from ''[[Short Trips: 2040]]''.</ref> | |||
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| [[Cyberverse]] | |||
| [[TV]]: ''[[Real Time (webcast)|Real Time]]'' | |||
| A divergent continuity where [[Cybermen]] become dominant in the universe, depicted as an alternate reality in [[PROSE]]: ''[[Spiral Scratch (novel)|Spiral Scratch]]''. | |||
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| [[The Doctor's reality (The Not-So-Sinister Sponge)]] | |||
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| The reality of the "Special Occasions" stories in ''[[Short Trips and Side Steps]]'', based on the [[Doctor Who annual]]s. | |||
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| [[Infected timeline (Interference)]] | |||
| [[PROSE]]: ''[[Interference (novel)|Interference]]'' et al. | |||
| The timeline established by the rewriting of the Third Doctor's death. | |||
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| [[War Era universe]] | |||
| [[PROSE]]: ''[[Alien Bodies (novel)|Alien Bodies]]'' et al. | |||
| The [[War in Heaven]]. | |||
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| [[Post-War universe]] | |||
| [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Burning (novel)|The Burning]]'' et al. | |||
| The reality following the [[War in Heaven]]. One of several competing versions of the post-War universe is the [[Council of Eight's universe]]. | |||
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| [[Pre-Time War universe]] | |||
| [[TV]]: ''[[An Unearthly Child (TV story)|An Unearthly Child]]''{{source}} | |||
| The state of reality prior to the [[Last Great Time War]], primarily seen in the "classic series" and spin-off works prior to the introduction of the "new series". | |||
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| [[Time War timeline]] | | [[Time War timeline]] | ||
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| The distinct, fluctuating state of reality during the [[Last Great Time War]]. Mostly sealed off from the [[normal universe]] by [[Time War time lock|time lock]]. | | The distinct, fluctuating state of reality during the [[Last Great Time War]]. Mostly sealed off from the [[normal universe]] by [[Time War time lock|time lock]]. | ||
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| [[Gallifrey's history (The Day of the Doctor)]] | | [[User:MrThermomanPreacher/Gallifrey's history (The Day of the Doctor)|Gallifrey's history (The Day of the Doctor)]] | ||
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| A potential history in which Gallifrey was in fact destroyed at the end of the Time War before history was changed so that it [[fall of Gallifrey|survived]] in ''[[The Day of the Doctor (TV story)|The Day of the Doctor]]'' (2013). May or may not be related to that seen in ''[[Doctor Who and the Time War (short story)|Doctor Who and the Time War]]''. | | A potential history in which Gallifrey was in fact destroyed at the end of the Time War before history was changed so that it [[fall of Gallifrey|survived]] in ''[[The Day of the Doctor (TV story)|The Day of the Doctor]]'' (2013). May or may not be related to that seen in ''[[Doctor Who and the Time War (short story)|Doctor Who and the Time War]]''. | ||
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| The state of reality in the "new series" in which the "[[Ninth Doctor]]" ([[Christopher Eccleston]]) follows the [[War Doctor]], who himself followed the Eighth Doctor. Lasts at least up to the end of the [[Tenth Doctor]]'s life (the RTD era). | | The state of reality in the "new series" in which the "[[Ninth Doctor]]" ([[Christopher Eccleston]]) follows the [[War Doctor]], who himself followed the Eighth Doctor. Lasts at least up to the end of the [[Tenth Doctor]]'s life (the RTD era). | ||
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|[[Cracked universe (The Eleventh Hour)]] | | [[User:MrThermomanPreacher/Cracked universe (The Eleventh Hour)|Cracked universe (The Eleventh Hour)]] | ||
|[[TV]]: ''[[The Eleventh Hour (TV story)|The Eleventh Hour]]'' (2010) | | [[TV]]: ''[[The Eleventh Hour (TV story)|The Eleventh Hour]]'' (2010) | ||
|The damaged universe seen throughout [[Series 5 (Doctor Who)|Series 5]] (the Eleventh Doctor's first series). | | The damaged universe seen throughout [[Series 5 (Doctor Who 2005)|Series 5]] (the Eleventh Doctor's first series). | ||
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| [[Starless world]] | |||
| [[TV]]: ''[[The Big Bang (TV story)|The Big Bang]]'' (2010) | |||
| The last stage of the cracked universe before [[Big Bang Two]]. | |||
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| [[User:MrThermomanPreacher/Rebooted universe (The Big Bang)|Rebooted universe (The Big Bang)]] | |||
| [[TV]]: ''[[The Big Bang (TV story)|The Big Bang]]'' (2010) | |||
| The restored universe introduced in the Series 5 finale. Presumably the current state of reality at least as far as the television series is concerned. | |||
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| [[Lethbridge-Stewart's universe (The Forgotten Son)]] | |||
| [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Forgotten Son (novel)|The Forgotten Son]]'' | |||
| The alternate timeline setting of [[Candy Jar Books]]' ''[[Lethbridge-Stewart (series)|Lethbridge-Stewart]]'' series. | |||
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| [[Collapsing Universe]] | |||
| [[PROSE]]: ''[[Blood Heat Second Iteration (novel)|Blood Heat Second Iteration]]'' | |||
| The setting of [[Jim Mortimore]]'s "Director's Cut" novels. | |||
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|[[ | | [[Cutaway universe]] | ||
|[[ | | [[COMIC]]: ''[[Down These Mean Streets A Man Must Go (comic story)|Down These Mean Streets A Man Must Go]]'' | ||
| | | Continuity of [[Cutaway Comics]]' ''[[Lytton (series)|Lytton]]''. | ||
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== Footnotes == | |||
{{reflist}} | |||
Latest revision as of 19:50, 25 April 2024
A rough list of potential and disputed diverging continuities/timelines/universes to keep track of things. Generally speaking, simple alternate timelines caused by clear changes to history (Day of the Daleks etc.) and explicit parallel universes separate from "N-Space" such as Pete's World and the Unbound Universe should not be included here; to see them go to User:Chubby Potato/Sandbox/List of realities, though that's not to say that the realities listed below may not be added there if so desired.
This page is very much a work in progress. Feel free to add or edit. Suggestions or recommendations are welcome.
| Name | First Appearance | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| The Doctor's universe | TV: An Unearthly Child (1963) | The world of which all these realities are differing accounts or alternative versions. Per T:NPOV, each disputed reality has approximately equal claim to representing the "real" account of the Doctor's universe. |
| Original palimpsest universe | NOTVALID: The Pilot Episode (1963) | An overwritten reality and potentially the original version of history, suggested by the boy, in which the Doctor was a human who came from "some planet" in the 49th century. (PROSE: Unnatural History) |
| The Doctor's reality (An Unearthly Child) ("Hartnellverse") | TV: An Unearthly Child (1963) | The original "continuity" which begins in the very first episode with the First Doctor played by William Hartnell in Totter's Lane. Later developments establish his ability to regenerate, his disputed origin as a Time Lord from the planet Gallifrey and the conflicting accounts of incarnations preceding the First Doctor. |
| John and Gillian's world | COMIC: The Klepton Parasites | Disputed TV Comic continuity in which "Dr. Who", based on the First Doctor (William Hartnell) then the Second Doctor (Patrick Troughton), travels with grandchildren John and Gillian. |
| Yarvelling's reality | COMIC: Genesis of Evil | Disputed TV Century 21 continuity in which the Daleks humanoid "forefathers" are the blue-skinned Daleks and the Dalek War Machines were created by Yarvelling. Most notably disputed by the introduction of Davros and the Kaleds in Genesis of the Daleks. Potential connections to both the Hartnellverse and the Cushingverse. |
| Dr. Who's reality (Dr. Who and the Daleks) ("Cushingverse") | TV: Dr. Who and the Daleks | The alternative continuity home to the human Dr. Who, played by Peter Cushing.[1] |
| The Doctor's reality (Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks) | PROSE: Doctor Who in an Exciting Adventure with the Daleks | Disputed Target novelisation continuity in which the Doctor and Susan settled in Barnes Common, along with many other slight or major differences. |
| "Dalek timeline" | TV: Genesis of the Daleks (mentioned only) | A potential future in which the Daleks have exterminated all other life, motivating the Time Lords to prevent this from happening by enacting the Genesis Incident. |
| Genesis timeline | TV: Genesis of the Daleks | The disputed results of the Fourth Doctor's interference in the Daleks' early history. |
| 2-D universe | COMIC: The Iron Legion | The reality of the Doctor Who Magazine comic stories. |
| Virgin reality | PROSE: Timewyrm: Genesys | The reality of the Virgin Books New Adventures, Missing Adventures, and Decalogs. |
| Braxiatel Collection's revised timeline | The divergent continuity of Big Finish's Bernice Summerfield series, | |
| Barusa's universe | PROSE: The Chronicles of Doctor Who? | The universe of the Leekley Bible. |
| The Doctor's reality (The Eight Doctors) | PROSE: The Eight Doctors | The reality of the BBC Eighth Doctor Adventures novels.[2] |
| Infinity Doctor's reality | PROSE: The Infinity Doctors (1998) | The unique state of reality home to the Infinity Doctor. |
| The Doctor's reality (The Curse of Fatal Death) | TV: The Curse of Fatal Death (1999) | The divergent continuity home to the Ninth Doctor (Rowan Atkinson) and beyond. |
| Positive-time universe | The reality of Big Finish Productions' Monthly Adventures, including Eighth Doctor's travels with Charley Pollard. | |
| Reality (Auton) | TV: Auton | The reality of the Auton Trilogy. |
| The Doctor's reality (Scream of the Shalka) | NOTVALID: Scream of the Shalka (2003) | The divergent continuity home to the Ninth Doctor as played by Richard E Grant. |
| Auld Mortality's universe | AUDIO: Auld Mortality | [3] |
| Cyberverse | TV: Real Time | A divergent continuity where Cybermen become dominant in the universe, depicted as an alternate reality in PROSE: Spiral Scratch. |
| The Doctor's reality (The Not-So-Sinister Sponge) | The reality of the "Special Occasions" stories in Short Trips and Side Steps, based on the Doctor Who annuals. | |
| Infected timeline (Interference) | PROSE: Interference et al. | The timeline established by the rewriting of the Third Doctor's death. |
| War Era universe | PROSE: Alien Bodies et al. | The War in Heaven. |
| Post-War universe | PROSE: The Burning et al. | The reality following the War in Heaven. One of several competing versions of the post-War universe is the Council of Eight's universe. |
| Pre-Time War universe | TV: An Unearthly Child[source needed] | The state of reality prior to the Last Great Time War, primarily seen in the "classic series" and spin-off works prior to the introduction of the "new series". |
| Time War timeline | The distinct, fluctuating state of reality during the Last Great Time War. Mostly sealed off from the normal universe by time lock. | |
| Gallifrey's history (The Day of the Doctor) | A potential history in which Gallifrey was in fact destroyed at the end of the Time War before history was changed so that it survived in The Day of the Doctor (2013). May or may not be related to that seen in Doctor Who and the Time War. | |
| Post-Time War universe | TV: Rose (2005) | The state of reality in the "new series" in which the "Ninth Doctor" (Christopher Eccleston) follows the War Doctor, who himself followed the Eighth Doctor. Lasts at least up to the end of the Tenth Doctor's life (the RTD era). |
| Cracked universe (The Eleventh Hour) | TV: The Eleventh Hour (2010) | The damaged universe seen throughout Series 5 (the Eleventh Doctor's first series). |
| Starless world | TV: The Big Bang (2010) | The last stage of the cracked universe before Big Bang Two. |
| Rebooted universe (The Big Bang) | TV: The Big Bang (2010) | The restored universe introduced in the Series 5 finale. Presumably the current state of reality at least as far as the television series is concerned. |
| Lethbridge-Stewart's universe (The Forgotten Son) | PROSE: The Forgotten Son | The alternate timeline setting of Candy Jar Books' Lethbridge-Stewart series. |
| Collapsing Universe | PROSE: Blood Heat Second Iteration | The setting of Jim Mortimore's "Director's Cut" novels. |
| Cutaway universe | COMIC: Down These Mean Streets A Man Must Go | Continuity of Cutaway Comics' Lytton. |
Footnotes[[edit] | [edit source]]
- ↑ Including not just the theatrical films but also The House on Oldark Moor.
- ↑ Divided into a countable number of epochs, including the Blonde Sam timeline, The Relic's timeline, and Infected timeline (Interference).
- ↑ Compare other Doctor Who Unbound universes, such as the Unbound Universe, Parallel universe (Deadline), and particularly Parallel universe (Full Fathom Five), which ties into the main-continuity 2040 timeline (The Nuclear Option) from Short Trips: 2040.
