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== MissUndefinable ==
== Wiki Manager ==


I have been recently looking at the [[Tardis:Quote of the Week nominations|Quote of the Week nominations]] and literally all of them have been placed by [[User:MissUndefinable|MissUndefinable]]. It clearly states on the page that one user may place '''one '''vote only in each section. This user has broken this regulation. I think that you should place some new quote categories so that [[User:MissUndefinable|MissUndefinable]]'s quotes can not be re-used. Thank You. [[User:Ghastly9090|Ghastly9090]] 15:58, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
Hi Tangerineduel! My name is Playsonic2 and I’m the Fandom Wiki Manager assigned to TARDIS Data Core. I am here to help the community and be a liaison to full-time Fandom staff.


== Series 7? ==
I also happen to be an administrator at the Spanish Doctor Who Wiki, which has me spending considerable amount of time here (adding interlanguage links mostly). I know this wiki wonderfully organised and that [[user:CzechOut|CzechOut]] assists with any technical issues, but if there are ever any issues I could assist with, I would be pleased to help. I will be available on my talk page! ~[[User:Playsonic2|Playsonic2]] 09:03, May 20, 2019 (UTC)


Sorry to bother you again, but last night while I was looking through my latest copy of Doctor Who Magazine, I noticed this section in an interview with Mark Gatiss. Here's what it says: Will Mark be writing for the 2012 Series? "They've asked me to, but it all depends on my other commitments..."
:Heya! Just here to let you know that Fandom now has an official Discord server and lots of editors are joining. In [[w:User blog:MisterWoodhouse/The Official Discord Server for Fandom and Gamepedia Editors|this blog post at Community Central]] you can find more information, as well as a server invite link if you wish to join us. There are many editors there, as well as staff members, and a variety of channels. Cheers! [[User:Playsonic2|Playsonic2]] [[User talk:Playsonic2|<span title="Talk">☎</span>]] 07:46, July 11, 2019 (UTC)


I think that is pretty strong confirmation that there will be a Series 7/Series 2/Series 33. I know that you probably already knew there was going to be a Series 7, but doesn't this show that it might just be time to start putting a Series 7 page into production, or maybe you could do it after all Series 6 filming has finished so there isn't confusion over episodes. The quote above is 100% accurate and true. I'm not lying. This isn't a request, just a gentle nugde if you get what I mean. Thanks once again. [[User:Ghastly9090|Ghastly9090]] 10:57, February 12, 2011 (UTC)
== BBC ==


I take it you saw the above message? [[User:Ghastly9090|Ghastly9090]] 16:29, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for merging the BBC pages. I just finished removing all the links to "BBC (real world)" and deleted that page. [[User:OncomingStorm12th]] and I cleaned up the [[BBC]] page, so it flows better. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:20, June 28, 2019 (UTC)


==Can you test something for me?==
== Mark I Travel Machine ==
Hey, by now you'll probably have noticed something different when you try to create a new page. I've started adding in a whole fleet of enw preloadable formats. Today, I've gotten around to the more complicated formats for DWA and DWM issues. When you get some free time, could ya kick the tires on the formats for me, and tell me if you'd like anything tweaked about them? I've based both on the most recent issues of the mags. I think the DWM one is pretty solid, cause I'm familiar with that mag, but it's been a while since I've seen an issue of DWA. I think that you'll like that both formats automatically add a lead, fill in most of the infobox, and even automatically add categories and the previous and next issues. I'm a little ''less'' sure that I've got the subheads right on the DWA thing. Thanks for any input you can provide on these or really ''any'' of the new preloadables. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}
Hi there. This will be a blast from the past: over ten years ago now you [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Guilt_(audio_story)?diff=prev&oldid=238819 edited] [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Guilt (audio story)|Guilt]]'' and added a note that the prototype Dalek seen in the story was of the same design (by description and implication) seen in [[TV]]: ''[[The Daleks (TV story)|The Daleks]]''. If you remember could you please elaborate on this description and implication as I find it hard to reconcile this fact as the Daleks Davros eventually presented to the world were Mark III Travel Machines and not Mark Is. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:01, September 21, 2019 (UTC)
:Wow, thanks for the detailed remarks. I've already implemented the more cosmetic things you requested, such as going to "''Option'' 1" and paring down the language so that caps could be both used and grammatically correct. Both of those were great suggestions that wouldn't have occurred to me. Now as for the other points:
===Stray <nowiki></div></nowiki>===
Yeah, this is a weird one. The thing is that ultimately the "glowy box thing" will just be hardcoded into the CSS, like it already is at [[w:c:tardistest:template:Tardis license]]. If you take a look at that template, you'll see that it really doesn't have much in the way of editable style markup. Roughly, it's just:
<pre>
<div id="glowy thing">
This is the text in the box.
</div>
</pre>
And when we make the shift over to an actual CSS style sheet, [[MediaWiki:Newarticletext]] will be similarly restyled. That'll mean a reduction of a div, and therefore that stray div will poof. There's undoubtedly a way to make the stray div poof now, using just regualr wiki markup, but it's a waste of effort, because of what's in the next section.
===Namespace specific text for new pages===
The points you make about the current text failing to apply to, say, the creation of new talkpages, are of course valid. Phase 2 of the "Newpage Project", for lack of a better term, is newpage text '''specific to the namespace'''. Thus, if you're creating a new "Help" page, you'll get different text than if you're creating a new "Category" or "User" page. I've been looking around for a way to do this, and unfortunately I was barking up the wrong tree for a while, which is why we didn't the whole system at once.


The solution, it turns out, is something implemented on the Russian Wikipedia. Basically, when the software calls up newarticletext, that file checks to see what the namespace of the new page is, and then switches to a template appropriate to that namespace. Pretty nifty really. I'm not entirely sure that Wikia's version of MediaWiki will let us change ''every single'' namespace's new page message this way — not every namespace seems to call [[MediaWiki:newarticletext]] — but for those that do, we'll be able to easily fiddle with things. Thus, once it's all in, I'll definitely be looking to you for some wording. Just to get your mind thinking ahead of time, what would you like to say on a new category page? A new user page? A new Tardis page? A new Help page?
== About the Deceased category ==
====Update: Success!====
This now produces a different message for each of the namespaces. Of course, it only produces that specific message if you click on a redlink to create the page. If you choose to create a page through [[Special:CreatePage]], then you just get the standard mainspace (option 1/option 2) thing. Thus, if you choose to "Add a Page" but create a Tardis: page, you're not going to trigger the Tardis:-specific message. But if you were to click on [[Tardis:Namespace-specific new article messages]], you'll see a bare bones namespace-specific message. Now we just have to work on what we want to say for each of these namespaces. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}


===Option 2 worries===
A few days ago, I noticed there was no deceased category for this wiki, so I thought I should create one. So I tried, and saw that you had chosen for this page not to be created, as you judged it not useful since all articles were written in the past tense.
Yeah, people ''could'' just copy a whole page over into a new page, press publish, and we'd be stuck with two copies of the same articles with different names. I think that the time savings for legitimate edits, though, outweigh the potential for abuse. I know that my personal editing style would be more to go for option 2 than option 1.
Of course, a deceased category for a time-travel related series isn't an easy task. Should be put any characters that most likely died of old age in this category ? Personally, I don't think so. In my opinion, if we were to have such a category on this wiki, only the ones whose deaths were either witnessed in the series or seen as absolute (for instance Amy and Rory's), when we know those characters will very most likely never be seen again. Well, they could in some extreme cases, then they will just be removed.
So as you probably have guessed by now, I am writing this message to you in order to ask you to re-considerate your decision regarding this category.
Of course, in the case where you would accept, I would gladly take care of filling this category myself (i have seen all the new series but not the old ones yet, it's only a matter of time).
I will then await for your decision on this matter,
With all due respect,


===Other templates===
[[User:ThePurpleShadow|ThePurpleShadow]] [[User talk:ThePurpleShadow|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:21, October 27, 2019 (UTC)
[[:template:infobox Audiobook]] has in fact been modified to effectively merge the variables in infobox CD and Audiobook together. It can be used for any kind of audio release, save music. As for other templates that haven't yet been finished, I've dragged a lil on TV story templates of series that aren't pending. They'll be in shortly. The rest, save merchandise and toy, are all done. At the end of the day, I may just eliminate merchandise and toy. Dunno yet. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}
===Update: stuff and things===
====Spelling====
"Website" now corrected; thanks for the catch. (The file, btw, is [[MediaWiki:Edittools]], though it is partially now controlled by changes to common.css.)
====Glowy boxes====
If you want to create a "glowy box", like is used on edittools and newarticletext, that's now been defined as a CSS element, as it's a major design element at [[w:c:tardistest]], and it'll be the base for ''all'' message box templates once this site gets its facelift. Also, these new page templates are going to require that background, and I couldn't be bothered cutting and pasting any more. To use, do this:
<pre>
<div id="glow">Your message</div>
</pre>
Which gives:


<div id="glow">Your message</div>
== Re:Deceased category ==
Any text ''in'' the box is unstyled by this id, so you'd likely want to add a second, interior div (or span) to give the text some flair. And the box is at 95% width but not automatically centered. Thus if you want to create a box that IS centered, and style the interior text, you'd do something like this:
<pre>
<div id="glow" align=center>
<div style="text-align:center;
                font-family:'Georgia', serif;
                color:#2f2cb8;font-size:125%;">
Warning:</div>
<div style="font-size:95%;
                line-height:110%;
                text-align:center;">
You are about to do something naughty.</div>
</div>
</pre>
Which yields:


<div id="glow" align=center>
Thanks to your message, I now understand your point of view better. There is indeed a lot I didn't take into account when I thought this category was needed on this wiki. I usually visit wikis and recently have been adding/completing deceased categories on others, like Reborn's for example. So when I saw this one I thought it was missing, and it could have been useful. But now I see why this isn't the case, and I am sorry I bothered you for such a matter.  
<div style="text-align:center;                  font-family:'Georgia', serif;                  color:#2f2cb8;font-size:125%;">Warning:</div>
Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to write me a reply that could enlighten me about this wiki,
<div style="font-size:95%;                  line-height:110%;                  text-align:center;">You are about to do something naughty.</div>
</div>
====Infoboxen====
The thing I'm finding after having gone through the process of making up this preloadable formats, and thereby scouring [[:category:infoboxes]], is that we have an '''awful''' lot of duplication. The difference between audiobook, CD and audio story was minute. There's no reason to have three different infoboxen there. Same thing's true of the various ones we have for television episodes, prose works, and comic stuff. We could cut the number of infoboxen in half and not blink an eye. And, ultimately, this will happen. All the infoboxen will have to be reformatted when the site gets its facelift, and at that point you're likely to see a massive winnowing. And at that point, it will probably be very much appropriate to make very simple, basic template names, like '''infobox audio'''. But we won't want to ''delete'' any of the pre-existing names, like '''infobox audiobook'''. We'll just convert them to redirects, so that the transition is fairly seamless. It's kind of a waste of bot energy, when a single redirect does the same thing. You can already kind of see the coding approach at [[:template:infobox Audiobook]]. If you look at the guts of it and notice what's going on with the "name" variable, you see that the template allows that variable to be ''either'' "name" or "audiobook name", which means it still works on audiobook pages, but now accepts the "name" variable common to infobox CD. (I gotta say, though, I don't understand why a different name for the variable would have been employed in the first place. "Name" should've been kept standard to ''any'' infobox. Who knows, though, maybe I did this unique variable name thing on some of the infoboxen I designed. It's gotta stop, though. Users should know that there are some variable names that are standard, "name" being at the top of the list.)
====New page text====
These are all going to be in [[:category:newpage message templates]] for you to peruse and change as I add them. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}


== Time Field ==
[[User:ThePurpleShadow|ThePurpleShadow]] [[User talk:ThePurpleShadow|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:15, October 29, 2019 (UTC)


Can we ''please'' move [[Time Field]] to [[Crack]] or something? Nobody is going to go searching for "Time Field", and as far as I can remember "Time Field" was only said once or twice in the whole series. Everybody calls this story arc "the cracks", not "the Time Field". Just a thought :-) --[[User:The Traveller|The Traveller]] 14:15, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
== Tardis:User rights nominations ==
Hi. As you know, since you left a brief comment there, I've started a self-nomination over [[Tardis:User rights nominations]]. I'm not sure how up-to-track you've been keeping yourself around the wiki, but I thought of bringing to your attention that the usual "one week" period for comments has passed, and you might (if you have the time to, of course) weight in if more time's need or something of the sorts. Anyway, thanks in advance. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:36, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
:Yeah, I saw on your "contributions" section that you still show up once in a while. I'm glad to see this. Also, thanks for closing it. Now into new territory. :) [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:54, February 1, 2020 (UTC)


==What the hell has happened to your talk page?==
== Left-over vandalism ==
Where did all the previous questions/answers go? What the...? What happened? [[Special:Contributions/90.215.45.50|90.215.45.50]] 21:59, February 16, 2011 (UTC)
Hey. Thanks for dealing with the two vandals just now. As per the restrictions in [[Tardis:Vandalism policy]] regarding removal of others' comments may I have your permission to remove all the comments at [[User talk:Borisashton#Singular they]]? Thanks in advance. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:11, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
{{Please see|Is using "First Doctor", "Second Doctor" etc in-universe?}} {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}
:I'd like to say thanks too and ask the same regarding my own page. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:15, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
==[[User:Doug86|Doug86]]==
::Thanks. Also, I have no idea how to archive the talk page discussions. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:48, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
Doug86 is an admin but I strongly think he should be dropped back from the [[Tardis:Administrators|admins list]]. Looking at [[User talk:Doug86|his talk page]], I have found lots of complaints about his edits and he never ever even replies to any of his messages, and that's why I think he shouldn't be an admin. [[Special:Contributions/90.215.45.50|90.215.45.50]] 13:33, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
==Update on new [ns] page text ==
Work is continuing apace on the various templates that now appear at the top of the page when you want to start new pages in the various namespaces. You may have noticed in some cases that persistent odd <nowiki></div></nowiki>, but this problem has now been solved, as can be observed if you {{click on this false red-linked template}}. Sorry to have kept the wiki in limbo on this issue for longer than I imagined; for some reason I caught the fever to write articles about all things Australian for the past day. Should have completed putting up preliminary text up by either the end of Saturday or maybe Sunday morning your time.


BTW, I did like your proof of concept on the DWM cover organization dealio. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}
== Re: Template order ==
:Your rewording request on {{tl|newtemplatetext}} implemented. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}
Oh, it makes sense. Since most of these "small, rectangle templates" usually go on top, I'd assumed it was ended up being moved to the bottom of the page during a bot run, and went sort of unnoticed, but now looking at the page history I realize it was there since day one. Will change it back. Thanks for the heads up. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] ([[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|talk]]) 16:15, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
::Definitely need your eyes at {{tl|newtardistext}}. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}


==Australia==
== Just FYI, since you banned them ==
Well, I know. ''I'' was fascinated, too. In a way, it's only about a few pages in ''[[Invasion of the Cat-People]]'', where Gary Russell decides to write a fairly dull travelogue (oh, wait, it's Gary Russell, of course it's dull writing), but still it's interesting the degree to which there is coverage of Australia in DW fiction. I mean, Three kept coming back for more in his comic strips. ''Countdown'' in particular ''loved'' sending him to Oz —I think two or three times in the space of about a year. He's certainly the Doctor with the most trips to Oz, which maybe makes sense cause he was on Earth for so long. But you still wouldn't immediately have that at the tip of your brain. I think it's fascinating the degree to which other media lets the Doctor go to both Australia and America, when we tend to think of the Doctor being so incredibly wed to England (not even Britain, but England). {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}
==Edit to Azes13's Talk Page is mistaken==
::'''''Note:''' I had to rollback this user's contributions to your page, as he/she destroyed it. The following is an exact copy of their last substantive edit to your page. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}''
::
::Why the hell has CzechOut put the above message there?


I have not edited Azes 13's talk page ever so I don't know why you randomly came up with that, but I'm sure there's a logical explanation. [[User:90.215.45.50]] 17:02, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
[[User:Dissident Prodigy]] appears to be a sock puppet [[User:Unbanned reality talk]]. The former was created suspiciously quickly after the latter was banned, the names are vaguely similar, and the former’s only contributions are removing messages insulting the latter from his talk page (including that one message about mentioning logical fallacies by name being ‘reddit-tier arguing’, which, if you look at the history, the latter kept trying to remove - obviously it hit too close to home), as well as a supsicious cryptic comment about the ‘shoe [being] on the other foot’ on Shamabala’s talk page. Probably something you should look into. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.220.11|82.132.220.11]]<sup>[[User talk:82.132.220.11#top|talk to me]]</sup> 13:04, February 6, 2020 (UTC)


==Update==
== Thanks ==
Your concerns about [[MediaWiki:Edittools]] saying "if you're uploading a pic blah blah" on ''every'' page have now been addressed. Edittools '''completely''' changes for [[Special:Upload]] and [[Special:MultipleUpload]] so that it's no longer necessary to have the license warning on every single edit page. Let me know if you think the version on the upload pages is ''too'' bare bones. Might have to do some tweaking on the main edittools text; it looks a little ''weird'' to my eye now. Too much whitespace at the top or something.
Thank you for putting an end to [[User:120.20.195.104]]'s obstruction of the Wikia. It started on the Series 12 page, which admin Shambala108 had to lock because they continued to undo facts. I replied to Shambala on the talk page to do something and they kept counter-arguing it. Then I took to editing other pages, which they then kept undoing, obstructing work. Then I had to report to Shambala108 about it, which they followed and kept trying to argue again, this time going at me with personal attacks. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:10, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
:Furthermore they also broke the [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]] by naming spoilers outside the series page, specifically on Shambala's talk page. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:15, February 9, 2020 (UTC)


The new[ns]text pages have now all been completed. Peruse/change at your leisure —but at least now there's ''something'' on each type of new page. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}
Hopefully, you are right. But I do have my worries that this could continue. And without accusations, I do have slight suspicions that this in itself is a continuation of past actions, as I do remember a user of the past (half a year back or so) who engaged in the same kind of actions with the same motives. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:31, February 9, 2020 (UTC)


==homepage==
The user is back at again with these removals of sourced material. Could you please take action before this escalates once again? Thank you. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:37, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
hi how do you make your homepage hidden
:You agree it's unsourced? Cheers! Best to lock the page again so Danny doesn't edit-war. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 07:40, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
--leon norman 22:41, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
::YOU edit-war because you won't accept the facts as they are. YOU were blocked for this. Not once, but twice. Tangerineduel was easy on you with a one day block, but Shambala made your block longer for these actions. Why can't you take the hint that you are messing the page up by doing this? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:45, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
:::You admitted it's unsourced. You agree with me. Thank you! Why can't you read what you say? [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 07:47, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
::::"I think you need reading glasses. I didn't agree. I said you removed SOURCED material. Do you never get tired of going against this Wikia? You'll probably end up getting another block. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:49, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
:::::How's it sourced? Explain to me where it says it's definitely a Christmas special. Also point me to the part where it says it may be completely wrong. If you can't, then ''I think you need reading glasses''. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 07:59, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
::::::You tried this once before, remember? Without luck. Oh, and you have no respect for the spoiler policy as you again posted a spoiler where they are not allowed. I'm done with arguing this fact that you can't accept. The admins can take it from here. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:10, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Because you won't read the source. Just admit it. You've never opened it. You'll never even ''mention'' the bit where it says the source could be wrong. Copy-paste it. I dare you. Bet you won't. Scared of admitting you're wrong. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 08:21, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Read it multiple times, thanks. Still not wrong. Oh, and why would I deliberately break the spoiler policy? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:29, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Clearly not. Told you that you won't confirm that I'm right concerning the source. I'm right again? Wow! I'll be back here when it airs before Christmas, just to tell you that I told you so. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 08:31, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::The only regrettable thing is that I can't deal with disobedient Wikia-trolls like you myself and I have to pester another poor admin to take care of it because people like you keep coming back for more. Unable to accept things as they are. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:39, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::Unable to accept sources as they are? Hey, that's you! Won't even accept what it says. Can I make my CV, say that I paid for the whole series since 1963 and put in online? That's a reliable source, yeah? You seem to think so! [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 08:50, February 19, 2020 (UTC)


{{please see|Unknown species}} [[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 21:57, February 20, 2011 (UTC)#
== Re: UCP and nomination ==
Ah, thank you for getting back to me! Yes, that sounds fair. And I have indeed familiarised myself with the UCP on other Wikis; seemed only sensible.


==Why should I know?==
(I don't think it will affect the Wiki ''too'' badly, from what I've seen; the only area where I'm worried is the Forum, depending on how we handle the situation. In fact, the option to fill in image file descriptions ''within'' the source editor of a ''page'', rather than having to go through [[Special:Upload]] ahead of time, even seems like it might help significantly with issues of new users posting images without any licenses or categories.) --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:22, September 20, 2020 (UTC)
I know about the User Conribs page. Anyway, I obviously don't like Doug86 so I did that on Azes13's talk page, I admit, but, How was I to know that that was vandalism when I have only been editing on this wiki for a month and 14 days? [[Special:Contributions/90.215.45.50|90.215.45.50]] 16:33, February 21, 2011 (UTC)
:Well… as you'll doubtless have noticed, we ''have'', now, moved to the UCP, for better or for worse. Will you be able to get back to my case? --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:59, September 29, 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! (Speaking of replies — you didn't actually reply to my response to your concerns in <nowiki>==Neutral==</nowiki>; by all means do if there are areas I didn't address/more assurances you feel I should give.) --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:48, September 30, 2020 (UTC)
:::Point of information, I'm not sure we've finished the move to UCP. There are a variety of changes that come with UCP, the change to the forums is only one of them. I'm not sure that this is relevant, as the others aren't necessarily going to change much on an admin front to ''my'' knowledge, but it is something to bear in mind. (For instance, we still have "Recent Wiki Activity" on my end, which I'm certainly not complaining about, but shouldn't be the case? So I dunno what's going on, but it doesn't seem to be a full transition to UCP. Again, not sure if this is relevant to pausing the admin nom going forward, as the biggest issue there seemed to be the forums from my limited perspective, but it should be pointed out.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:10, September 30, 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, absolutely! Had you had more to ask I would definitely have posted the answers ''on'' the nomination page.


== admin ==
::As regards Najawin's message above, I mean, we had the banner ''announcing'' we had moved. It may be we ''are'' keeping WikiActivity after all as a special favour to one of the Original 100 Wikis? Who knows. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:20, September 30, 2020 (UTC)


can you make me an admin and come and join my wikia at http://classicnewdoctorwho.wikia.com --leon norman 19:20, February 22, 2011 (UTC)
== Admin categories ==


Since you moved yourself into a new category on [[Tardis:Administrators]], I'm wondering if some of the admins listed in the "Frequently active admins" category should also be moved (or whether it's incumbent on them to move themselves). I know when I was newer a few months ago the category not quite lining up confused me. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:18, October 2, 2020 (UTC)


== Community Connect ==


You banned me earlier this year and I would like to say that I had let my 5 year old cousin look at dalek pics but I didn't know that I was still logged on and then he tryed to edit stuff like  do on my wiki and when I had come back from doing the gardening I found I was banned.  Please can I be an administrator for being banned for 4 months for doing nothing.
Hey there! Not sure we've spoken much, but I'm Chris - a Wiki Representative at Fandom. Have you heard of an event called Community Connect? It's a Fandom event where news is often revealed about the platform and you get to chat to other admins. It's virtual this year over Zoom or similar but no mic or camera needed. It's 7th + 8th August at 8-12 PT. Is this something you would be interested in attending? I can't guarantee an invite, but I can look into getting one sent to the email associated with your Fandom account --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/>


==Wikia lies==
== Fandom projects ==
About that 'Anyone can edit' motto sort of thing from wikia, not ''anyone'' can edit. For instance, there are a lot of pages we anon users cannot edit so the 'Anyone can edit' slogan is not strictly true. Just saying. [[Special:Contributions/90.215.45.50|90.215.45.50]] 20:11, February 22, 2011 (UTC)


== pictures ==
Hi! Got a couple of things:


you know when you add a picture on here youve got a liscense how did you create new liscenses like dwm magazine issues if you get what i mean
As this wiki used to use Special:Forum, Fandom wants to make sure that old forum links and references aren't cluttering up maintenance special pages (unusedfiles, needed pages etc). Would you mind checking and letting me know asap as to whether that's an issue for this wiki? Just looking for dead links to forums in special pages, or links to images used in forums but are now dead, stuff like that. No need to attempt to cleanup yourself, I just need to know if they exist.


{{Please see|Renaming New Earth}} {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}
Secondly, did you receive an email sent last week I believe inviting you to The Downstream on September 10th? The email is titled "[The Downstream] Ask Fandom Anything, Social Media Tips, and Data Insights". I just want to confirm you received the email as we know Fandom outreach emails often land in spam.


== {{tl|qotw}} and other stuff ==
If you could let me know about both of those things, that would be fantastic. Thanks! --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 09:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)


Hey, I'm sorry I've not been in touch the past day or so.
== Temporary forums ==
*Glad you liked {{tl|qotw}}. I should've done it for you a ''lot'' earlier. Poor guy. You've been unnecessarily sloggin' through that copy and past schtick for years now when you really didn't have to. As for first or second person in the "voice" of the message box, I dunno, I went for second, cause I saw you doing second. I figured it just sounded more like what you'd been doing. So you'll see auto-generated phrases like "your quote should ..." and the like throughout. Feel free to change the language to fit your own voice better.
*Oh, btw, wanted to offer you another bit of helpful code for QOTW matters. Did you know that we could knock up a very easy automated system? It's so simple:
<pre width=60>
{{#switch:{{CURRENTWEEK}}
|1=quote 1
|2=quote 2
|3=quote 3
...
|52=quote 52}}
</pre>
:Literally, '''that's it'''. You could effectively change the whole way you did quotes with this. You start the year with 10 quotes left over from the previous year. That gives you a cushion. You throw out 20 broad topics in January, then wait for people to populate those requests. At about the time the ''Doctor Who'' series starts in the spring, you "harvest" the quote page for the next few months. With any luck, you'll get 42 quotes at that point, and then you'll never have to mess with QOTW until the end of the year. At that point, you'd have all the quotes in one place, and you could just send them off to archive without having to do all that cutting and pasting. So basically you interact with quotes a three or four times a year, not every week. Lemme know if you'd like to implement this.
*In response to a rather cryptic message at [[Forum:Rumours on the loose]], I took a look at [[tardis:spoiler policy]] and noticed it was maybe not specific enough to help [[User:Ghastly9090]] combat an influx of rumors on [[series 6 (Doctor Who)]]. Thus, I beefed up the language on the page and gave a detailed example of proper sourcing at the various stages of a rumor's life. Please take a look when you get a chance to see if you have problems with the amplification of the basic policy.
*How do you think I should handle the visual changeover that drove me to seek adminship in the first place? Do I ask for a community vote of every single point of the design at [[w:c:tardistest]]? Do I bring it in one major feature at a time? Or do I say, look at this overall design; are you mostly in favor of it or not? Or do I just bring it in without discussion and say, "Look if you've got specific problems with this, please let me know on the forums?" I've kinda gotten off the rails on that major project, but it's late February now and there's not much time before the new series starts. I really need to be gettin' on with the implementation, but it's so major a change I'm honestly not sure of the best way to go about getting basic community assent.
*I know you had a specific objection to the design of the transparent background. But remember I put the Baker vortex design up specifically to ''highlight'' what the background could do. That's ''not'' the design I'm saying should ultimately be there, nor do I think it should ''always'' be one design. I think it should a) change seasonally and b) largely concentrate on images that are on either side of the main text area. For me, the interesting thing about the feature is not that you can see through the text area, but that it doesn't move when you scroll. That means you can create a design that's relatively short and it won't scroll away when you scroll down. So let's say we wanted to put up a little strip of Gallifreyan writing across the top. It would ''always'' be across the top. I also made another test background where I had a couple of Yeti peeking out from behind the text area. That was fun. We could certainly have "character" backgrounds like too. Or a background where photos were pinned to the sides of the screen. Or one where we have the Doctor in profile on one side, and Amy in profile on the other. Or one dominated by roundels. There are a lot of possibilities for it. Don't prejudge it by the test pattern :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}


== Pictures ==
Hey! Hope all is well in your neck of the woods. Since you've been away, a new discussion's been going on, with our continuing need for forums to get things done again. As we've been in a transition period for a while, and [[user:CzechOut]]'s still busy preparing the next stage of evolution, some users have proposed we make space for these necessary conversations.


If a picture that has nothing to do with the Dr. Who universe is put onto a subjects talk page does it have a right to be deleted. I ask as I put a picture on the Vashta Narada talk page, so that people can decide wether it should be written about as a refrence. Please tell me if it is alright. The picture was temporary anyway. Thank you (;,;) [[User:Son of Icthar|Son of Icthar]] 11:17, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
Would be good to get another eye on this. Do you think you could have a look? It's over at [[Tardis talk:Temporary forums]]. {{User:SOTO/sig}} 07:01, 21 December 2021 (UTC)


Also I am not very happy with Skittles the hog's tone in the messages he leaves on my talk page. Thank you. (;,;) [[User:Son of Icthar|Son of Icthar]] 11:36, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
== Discussions AbuseFilter ==


3 things; 1 Thank you for answering me. 2. Do you think it could be a possible refrence? 3. How do you do a link to another site, because I have no idea. Thank you (;,;) [[User:Son of Icthar|Son of Icthar]] 12:36, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
Hey! A new feature is available on Discussions - Discussions AbuseFilter (DAF). This is designed to be a tool to help moderation on Discussions, if certain behaviours are being disruptive and making manual moderation difficult:


I still don'tlike his tone. (;,;) [[User:Son of Icthar|Son of Icthar]] 11:13, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
* [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Special:DiscussionsAbuseFilter DAF page (not enabled yet but I can do)]
* [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DToast/Introducing_Discussions_AbuseFilter Announcement blog]
* [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Discussions_AbuseFilter Help page]


Not compulsory for anyone to use it etc, just letting you know it's here. As a note about forums, I have asked Czech about it and I know he is aware it's still needed. If I can help with anything though, please give me a shout on here or Discord! --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 20:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


[[File:Halo_Reach_helmet_haunted.jpg|thumb|The picture in question.]]
== Joledex? ==


==User==
Im not really sure because it has been a while back. Maybe because I wasn't sure about the spelling of the name 08:46, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
I have a strange feeling that [[User:Finisterman]] may be a User that was blocked earlier in the year for doing the exact same thing: Adding the wrong categories to pages, even after being warned several times. Can you look into it for me?? Cheers. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 16:39, February 24, 2011 (UTC)


I thought the same thing the second he started editing, possibly using the same IP adress I mentioned to you earlier. His edits are identical and as vandalising as Finister2's edits and they share a common name. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 16:42, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
== Admin nomination ==
Hi Tangerineduel, just wanted to ping you to let you know that the admin nomination for [[User:Bongolium500]] at [[Tardis:User rights nominations]] has passed the one week threshold and is ready for conclusion. Hope you've been well! – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 14:15, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
: Hey — cheers on closing Bongolium's nomination, but just letting you know that his actual user rights don't appear to have been changed yet? <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 13:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
::Ah, makes sense! Thanks. (This is just why we need Bongolium; I'm no good at the coding stuff…) <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 13:43, 19 December 2022 (UTC)


== Thank you ==
== Re:Admin - Welcome! ==


I would like to thank you once more for telling me how to do an external link, would it be alright to do that on the page or shall I let it die down abit? I also thought that there should be a page to Nicholas Courtney's most memorable lines on this wiki, if you agree I think that would be an excellent tribute to the great actor. (;,;) [[User:Son of Icthar|Son of Icthar]] 17:01, February 24, 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome! Don't worry about the wait: everyone has their busy moments. I look forward to getting started with some of my new responsibilities! [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:20, 19 December 2022 (UTC)


== Quotations  ==
== Temporary Forums Are Live! ==
Hello!


I understand. (;,;) [[User:Son of Icthar|Son of Icthar]] 14:06, February 25, 2011 (UTC)
Just wanted to notify you that, [[User:CzechOut]]'s final deadline of "by New Year's Day" having passed, and following in-depth discussion between myself and fellow admins [[User:SOTO]], [[User:OncomingStorm12th]] and [[User:Bongolium500]], we have decided to '''activate [[Tardis:Temporary forums]]''', come what may. A [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice|sitenotice]] has been set to inform the community of this development, and I am taking it upon myself to personally update [[Tardis:Administrators|our Administrators]] on the situation, as well as yourself.


== Would you do me a favour please? ==
As the name implies, we hope the Temporary Forums will remain — well — temporary. Any work on reactivating proper DPL Forums will still be welcome and appreciated; this system is a further fine-tuning of the setup Bongolium500 had proposed in December 2021, which it means is designed from the ground up to be '''easy to transfer into the actual DPL Forums''' if we should get those back in the near future after all.


Hi! Thanks for the help recently managed to sort it out with CzechOut ...just wondered would you be so good as to just drop me a line on my talk page with a subject heading of whatever 'cos I just want to see something <nah I'm not that sad!> more a test realy - thanks! [[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] 15:59, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
But it has been ''multiple years'' since the Wiki has had a venue for changing policy and forming community consensus on important matters. Bongolium500 and SOTO put forward the first draft of the Temporary Forums a full ''year'' ago — and were convinced to retract it by a promise that the real Forums would come ‘very soon’; and here we are. I don't think anyone's at fault; I do think everyone has the Wiki's best interests at heart. But the time has come to realise that the overly-optimistic strategy of endlessly putting off an imperfect temporary solution in pursuit of a perfect one "soon" has failed, resoundingly. It is time for a different approach. The Tardis community are ''owed'' a different approach. If you ''have'' active DPL Forums to give us, we will take them gladly. But we cannot sacrifice one more promising alternative to a nebulous future possibility which has already proven more difficult to achieve that you'd expected several times over. It is our hope that you can understand respect our decision in this matter.


==Why can't anon users insert pictures?==
We [[four surviving elementals|four elementals]] behind the Temporary Forums would like to reassure the rest of the admin team that this necessary step '''is not intended to create more work for them unbidden'''. Four are, if it comes to that, plenty enough to keep the peace a Forum with no more than six threads running at a time; we would be thrilled to see the rest of the team embracing the Temporary Forums, but please don't feel any ''obligation'' to do so.


Why can't anon users insert pictures onto the wikia? [[Special:Contributions/90.215.45.50|90.215.45.50]] 18:14, February 27, 2011 (UTC)
Happy New Year, happy editing — and happy contribution to the New Forums!


== New Look ==
<span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 11:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)


#What has the blots got to do with dr. who?
== Bot ==
#FEELING SEA SICK [[User:Joshoedit|Josho]] 03:44, February 28, 2011 (UTC)


{{please see|Home Era}}, so a decision can be reached! [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 17:14, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering if you knew what the process was for an admin to obtain a bot? [[T:HOW BOT]] seems geared towards non-admins. I have experience with programming and would like to use a bot to automate certain tasks. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
: I'm familiar with the technical process of bot creation. However, all a bot really is is a second account with the bot user group which can only be granted by a bureaucrat so I was wondering what the procedure to obtain this is, if there is a procedure, or if I should just create the account and point it your way for you to add the admin and ot user groups. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
:: Thanks. I've created [[User:Botgo50]]. If you could assign it the "administrator" and "bot" user groups, that would be great. This is less important to me, but, while you're at it, would you be able to assign my main account "administrator (Semantic MediaWiki)"? I think I'm the only person using [[T:SMW|SMW]] at the moment and this group would be useful. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)


== Heads up about the thanks extension ==


==Once again the decor changes==
Hi. I just wanted to give you a heads up that Tardis is testing the "thanks" extension which Fandom will be rolling out to all wikis soon. This extension allows editors to thank other editors for their edits. The editor being thanked will then recieve a notification. Therefore, while you're actively performing edits, you may receieve a few more notifications than normal. If you notice any bugs, pass them onto [[User:Spongebob456]]. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:59, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
ok that is weird the previous decor lasted less than two months and this decor is weird. One question. What the hell is with the bubbles? QUIT CHANGING THE DECOR! IT'S JUST A WEBSITE AND IT DOESN'T NEED DECORATION AFTER DECORATION AFTER DECORATION ALL THE TIME! Oh, and one other thing, ANSWER MY QUESTIONS PLEASE, O MIGHTY TANGERINEDUEL!!!!!!!!! [[Special:Contributions/90.215.45.50|90.215.45.50]] 17:26, March 8, 2011 (UTC)


== New Dr Who Books ==
== Re: Tardis Data Core change to Tardis Wiki ==
Did we actually decide to officially change the name? If so, I can run through the Tardis namespace with my bot and get things updated. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC)


Hi,
: For what it's worth it's not ''my'' understanding that "Tardis Data Core" is obsolete. We were, and remain, "the Tardis Data Core Wiki" in full; our old logo abridged this to ''Tardis Data Core'', the new one abridges it to ''Tardis Wiki''. That's my read. But if mileages on this vary too heavily (it seems concerning that out of us three no one is actually ''sure''), we may need a thread to try and gauge what the community actually wants before we do anything drastic either way. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 15:59, 9 July 2023 (UTC)


I was looking for a page where I could contact the site admins or editors. It might be worth adding an 'admin talk' type page, where ideas and suggestions could be thrown in. Maybe it's there and I'm not seeing it, but if that's the case, then making it a little more obvious for the impatient like me might be useful.
:: I actually thought our full name was "Tardis Data Core, the Doctor Who Wiki". [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:21, 9 July 2023 (UTC)


Anyway, I have found a new series of Doctor Who (Matt Smith) children's books, known as 'flip books' (because you read one story, then turn the book upside down so that the back becomes the front, and you have a second story). These don't seem to be covered in the wikia at all.
::: I agree that a forum thread is a good idea. Does anyone particuarly want to start it? If not, I'm happy to do so within a few days. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:36, 10 July 2023 (UTC)


Here's some links to them on Amazon:
:: Ah, excellent! [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 10:45, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


[http://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-Doctor-Heart-Riders-Chapter/dp/1405907576/ref=pd_sim_b_3 Book 1: Heart of Stone / Death Riders]
::: Great! [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:48, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


[http://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-Doctor-Alien-System-Chapter/dp/1405907584 Book 2: The Good, the Bad and the Alien / System Wipe]
== Can you give admin to my bot? ==


[http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Book-Terror-Chapter/dp/1405907673 Book 3: Rain of Terror / Extra Time](not yet released)
Hi, I've been running [[User:Botgo50]] relatively succesfully for a while now but it'd be really helpful if it could be given admin, mostly so that it can edit protected pages. Would you be able to do that next time you're arround? Thanks. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)


[http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-Underwater-Terminal-Despair/dp/1405907681 Book 4: The Underwater War / Terminal of Despair] (not yet released)
== Re: Bot admin request ==


Sorry, I don't have to time to add these, and was hoping someone else did...
Thank you very much! [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


''EDIT'': Nevermind, found [[Forum:Panopticon]]... Will post this there<br />
== Admin+ ==
''EDIT'': Posted it here: [[Forum:New_flip_books_by_BBC_Childrens_Books]]


Thanks [[User:Jamdog|Jamdog]] 18:41, March 8, 2011 (UTC)
Hey there! I’m reaching out to introduce the Admin+ program (if you haven’t heard about it already!) & let you know I’m here if you have any questions about it. Take a look at the details [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Admin_Plus here] & feel free to send over any questions you have. <span style="font-family: Rubik; border-radius:8em; padding:0 5px; background:#d58494">[[User:Pikushi|<span style="color:#f1f5ff">pikushi ✧.*</span>]] </span>  <staff /> 20:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


==Canon policy rewrite==
== Request for help ==
Hey could you take a look at [[user:CzechOut/Sandbox8]] for me?  It's a top-down rewrite of the canon policy, which incorporates some recent discussions at [[Forum:BBV and canon policy]].  I'd appreciate your thoughts.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''03:49:52 Thu&nbsp;'''10 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
:Thanks for the comments.  Well, I haven't begun to address all of them, since one of your requests is a fairly massive undertaking.  I've made a decent stab, I hope, at getting the ''positive'' list you requested.  In my way of thinking at present, there'll be the policy page, which generally proceeds from the notion of explaining what we '''don't''' allow, and then a list-ish page which goes through what we ''do'' allow.  It's here: [[User:CzechOut/Sandbox8/WhatThisWikiCovers]].  Thing is though, the main canon policy page should be given primacy, because it's more likely it will be current.  For instance, the current "positive" list doesn't even refer to IDW at all.  So, technically, according to current policy, IDW isn't canon!  People just aren't going to remain committed to keeping the "positive" list up to date, if the current canon policy page is any indication.  That's why I think it's important to approach it from two different angles, and make the more long-winded canon policy page as the "superior" version of the policy (that is, any discrepancies are resolved in the main canon policy page). Any future stories should be evaluated on the basis of the ''policy'', rather than the ''list''.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''09:18:49 Fri&nbsp;'''11 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>


{{please see|Is The Curse of Fatal Death canon?}} {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''20:06:59 Fri&nbsp;'''11 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
Hi! I was wondering if I could get you to look into [[User talk:Shambala108#Something you might want to look into|this issue]]. For various reasons (which I would be glad to tell you if you wish), I don't feel I am the right person to address this, and I definitely don't think any of the newer admins could help. I feel like this situation is starting to remind me of [[Forum:What about Bob?|something from long ago]]. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:42, 28 November 2023 (UTC)


== The Beast Below? ==
== re:Recent edits ==


I was on "[[Daleks - List of Appearances  |List of Dalek Appearances]] " an i went down to Series 5 and the last scene from [[The Beast Below]] has been totally ignored, Is there a reason behind this??? [[User:Joshoedit|Josho]] 21:00, March 12, 2011 (UTC)
I think I get what you're saying, but I wanted to ask for some clarification. I was always told it is best to leave a reason behind reversions in the edit summaries, but I think your saying to only do so for a limited number of times before taking things to a talk page? [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:39, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


== Since you're on ==


Can you block 119.111.220.93‎? It's some random user that will do a ton of vandalism, get blocked, and then come back under a new IP a few weeks later. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:13, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


I Know i can up date it my self. It's just that i rember the beast below being in the "dalek  Appearances box" so i though it was an admin thing [[User:Joshoedit|Josho]] 19:09, March 13, 2011 (UTC)
== RE: Wild Blue Yonder Numbers ==


==QOTW==
Hi there! Hope you are well. Per your response on my talk page, I wanted to check this. So does that mean it is best I leave those pages alone then and leave you and the order admins to sort out the whole merging thing? Looking forward to your reply. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 11:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Could you explain that a little more, or, better, take a screenshot of what you're seeing? I'm not detecting any problems my end. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''16:01:26 Mon&nbsp;'''14 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
::Ahhhh, TOC/glow collision.  I see.  Thanks for the pic.  I'll look into it. I'll try defining TOC a little more, but if that doesn't work, the obvious solution is simply to make the width of the QOTW template narrower, about 600px.  But let me mess around with the TOC defs first.  Interesting problem.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''16:57:43 Mon&nbsp;'''14 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
:::Well, I wanted to get you a quick solution so that the page didn't look so bad.  This may not be the final solution, because TOC's are tricky.  They're not "really" there on the page, so it's hard to tell the code, "if you detect this TOC box, adjust to its presence".  Nevertheless you ''can'' easily change '''some''' things about them.  What I've gone for here is to switch it from a transparent box to one that has the color of transparency.  So it still matches the background, but it actually ''has'' a background.  I've also absolutely defined a left margin, so the text of the template, at least, will recognize the edge of the template — even though the ''border'' of the template won't.  This will tuck the right edge of the template background under the TOC, but still leave the text of the template fully readable.  Ideally, it'd be nice to actually get the whole template to recognize the TOC border, but for now, at least it's all readable and not actually colliding any more.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''18:08:05 Mon&nbsp;'''14 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
::::Well, like I said, the solution was a stop-gap one, just to make the page '''legible'''.  It's probably not where we'll end up.  I'll continue looking at it.  The ''best'' solution, by far, is to get proper collision detection, such that {{tl|qotw}} "sees" the toc and shrinks accordingly.  Dunno quite how to do that yet. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''15:39:19 Tue&nbsp;'''15 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
::::::Yes, I thought about changing the width of {{tl|qotw}}.  And I still might do it. Problem is that doesn't solve the larger issue.  See, the TOC is not, for reasons I don't get, obeying it's own width commands.  If you check out pages where the sectional headsers are really wordy (I dunno, like [[DWA Issue 1]], maybe), you'll see that it has a ''much'' bigger width than on the page I just edited, [[Time Wake (short story)]].  Somehow, the TOC's just got a mind of its own.  And I really do need to understand its fundamentals a bit better.  So it's just as well to play around with this excellent test case at the QOTW nomination page than to just fix that one page and learn relatively nothing about why the TOC behaves as it does. 


::::::See, if I can control the TOC, and ensure that it is ''always'' 250px, then that gives us a definite width for {{tl|qotw}}.  Because the header length is controlling the TOC width, however, the TOC width is not always the same, even on that one page. (A header for a week in December is longer than a header for a week in May, for example.)
== Re. Financial crisis of 2007 ==
While I'm not an expert on the topic, it seems to me that the credit crunch was one of the events that followed the financial crisis of 2007; the 2008 credit crunch wasn't the "main" incident. Although "credit crunch of 2008" is stated in dialogue while "financial crisis of 2007" isn't (to the best of my knowledge) it seems misleading to name the page "credit crunch of 2008".


::::::I guess that what I'm saying is there are obvious fixes, but more obscure ''solutions''.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''16:03:55 Tue&nbsp;'''15 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
It'd be like if [[D-Day]] was named in the DWU but [[World War II]] wasn't; it'd be incorrect to name the larger conflict "D-Day", even though in this hypothetical situation that name isn't conjectural while the name of the larger conflict would be.
:::''Some'' progress has been made today in that a found the right element to use to make all TOCs a standard width.  At the moment all are at 250px. I may have found something which allows an object, like a template, to clip itself off after a certain width,  if it encounters another object nearby.  It failed to work putting it on the TOC code, but i'll try later putting it on the QOTW temp.  If that fails I'll keep looking for a bit.  But at least we now know what the width of the TOC is definitely going to be, meaning that we can, at a minimum, define the width of QOTW with confidence that it will ''always'' "clear" the TOC. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''08:21:01 Wed&nbsp;'''16 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>


{{Please see|Character information on novels, etc}} [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 17:20, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
But then, there easily could be a story that uses the name "financial crisis of 2007" somewhere, which maychave not been documented on the Wiki yet. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 13:53, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


==Adventure making books==
== RE: Prop delete query ==
Surely ''[[Make Your Own Adventure with Doctor Who]]'' and ''[[Decide Your Destiny]] books are not canon as they have no set storyline. Is there a reason they are not in this category?----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 18:09, March 17, 2011 (UTC)


Yeah, I thought you'd relate them to computer games. Personally, I don't think a non-definitive story can be canon, but [[Doctor Who: The Adventure Games|the adventure games]] are clearly designed to fit in with the series, so I suppose you can't discriminate.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 16:25, March 18, 2011 (UTC)
Hey! Sorry I missed your message; I still haven't adapted to talk page notifications being moved to the bell. It's been great seeing you around more recently, by the way.


== New artcle of the month ==
At time of writing, the only of my user subpages not related to the Forum Archive is the ''Five Doctors'' home media sandbox page, from a project it was ultimately decided in the forums not to proceed with anymore. (Shambala actually added that tag, not me, but I've been holding onto it in case there happens to be a revival in the [[F:CLOISTERS|New Forums]].)


No offence to Nick Courtney, but isn't it time for a new article of the month?[[User:Ghastly9090|Ghastly9090]] 16:20, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
The Forum Archive has been on pause for a while due to a number of personal circumstances, and now it's a little stuck until I have access to a personal computer again, unfortunately. Those message-level pages (each message needs its own subpage due to the method of archiving, which meant organising large masses of files by adapting a spreadsheet made from an unrelated output) tagged were found to be spam posts, so the next step will be properly removing them from the final archive subpages before launch.
==Subheads==
There might be a little tweaking here and there, but not ''much''.  This is pretty much where it is.  I think it's a vast improvement in readability.  It's very clear now what's a section head and what's a bit of text in the section. This was considerably less clear, especially when you got down to the h5 and h6 headers.  Now though, there's an obvious difference between the headers and the regular text on the page. [Take a look at [[companion]], for an example of an article that uses all subhead levels.]


But the big thing is precisely this matter of the sentence case.  It's still the rule, and I hope this doesn't give people license to go do what they want with headers cause they know the headers will "take care of things for them". But as someone who's spent a fair amount of time enforcing the MOS, I'm honestly just tired of fighting that fight, even ''with'' a bot.  This way, with one command, the site instantly snaps to attention and looks more professional. 
I should be able to complete those pre-launch steps from a library computer, come to think of it, so I hope to have time for that soon. I do appreciate your reminder!{{User:SOTO/sig}} 05:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC)


Of course, people should still follow the rule because of TOCs and because if you link to a section of a page, you want to have confidence in how it's capitalised; section links are entirely case sensitive.  In other words, this is a cosmetic change in the way a particular class of text is presented on our site.  It's ''not'' a revision to the manual of style, which tells us how we should ''type in'' the raw text.  It's still ''very'' important that people follow [[tardis:Manual of Style#Headings]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''16:50:13 Mon&nbsp;'''21 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
== Deletions ==
:I strongly disagree with your assessment.  It's taken me a while, but I'm ''really'' happy with the font mix that now obtains on the site.  I ''love'' the all caps accents that exist on the site right now, and think that the pages look much more interesting because there's a clear demarcation between body text and other text.  I can add more explanatory text to the MOS to explain what's going on. It's more important that the site read clearly to the average user than it is that we get a perfectly WYSIWYG output for our editors.  Besides which, WYSIWYG headers are available on every page through the TOC.  The site finally has a uniform, simple text style that uses a minimum number of fonts in the font stack.  I don't want to change it — especially not if the main rationale is "because editors might get confused if they read the MOS".  The solution is to change the MOS so that it's clearer, not to throw out the baby with the bath water.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''14:44:36 Tue&nbsp;'''22 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
::I'm confused. You said to keep the details out of the forums when I started the project, and now when you find one thing you disagree with, you want a vote?  Odd. I don't understand why you're so concerned about this, anyway, since largely you're '''not''' the person who polices this issue.  I am.  My bot has made literally thousands of changes on the sentence case in headers issue.  My experience on this matter is simply greater than yours.  And I'm tellin' you that people ''are'' going to disregard the issue.  Headers will ''always'' be put in title case, and it's impossible for bots to take care of the hundreds of pages where unique headers are used.  Therefore, it's best that the code ''forces'' a style upon the headers, so that everything is consistent.   


::In any event, I was rewriting the MOS at the time you left your last message — please don't think that I did it ''after'' receiving your message, out of spite — and I think it's a lot clearer than it's ever been. 
Two pages I added and edited were deleted.
Kiviniss Ak
And Rom Kor-Marisi
Were two character editions direct from author
Simon Guerrier
As listed in the credits.
Did I add them incorrectly?
Thank you {{Unsigned|BrentSmith66}}


::I would urge you to give yourself and others some time to let this new font mix breathe.  I wish that I had been able to implement this from the get-go, but I didn't know a few weeks ago how to do it.  Though I know a bit about design theory, I am still learning how to enact that theory through CSS.  So I'm not always able to instantly make my original design ideas happen. 
== Welcome ==


::I will say this, though.  The idea you have that editors should be able to see what they type is completely contrary to the very notion of CSS.  What is the point of having the ability to style text if you don't use it?  In fact, we ''never'' see things as we type them, because the font of the edit box is not the same as the font of the article page. Indeed, the very act of creating a subhead '''always''' results in a text transformation. On the web, there's '''always''' a text transformation ''of some kind'' that happens between your raw text and the way that a page ultimately presents itself to the reader.  Contrary to your apparent belief, the web is not a WYSIWYG environment — MediaWiki wikis, even less so. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''15:44:06 Tue&nbsp;'''22 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
Well it's certainly great to have you! I'm glad you made it. I ''do'' seem to remember rumblings way back when in my own early days.


== Nav templates and headers ==
I can't imagine it ''would'' be fun sticking around with most of our support forked over here. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't sad to leave it behind, as exciting as all these new opportunities are to build the wiki the way we want it!


Sorry for not getting back to you about your earlier comment about the headers.  I honestly don't know whether I'll be able to get a superscript "c" for the case of "McCoy". Since it's only theoretical at this point, I'd say it's probably best to just do a bit of individualistic coding on the future headlines in which this might occur.  The easiest coding is:
I'm going to make a concerted effort soon to import missed changes from the 5 or so days we missed during final preparations, by the way. If there's anything in particular you want me to bring over from before you got here, so you don't feel you have to re-do edits, do let me know!
<pre>===The M<small>c</small>Coy factor===</pre>


As for nav templates, thanks :)  You mentioned the bottom spacing, and this was a concern for me.  I've put in a 5px spacing at the bottom, which can be observed in action best on one of the "combined" navboxes, such as the ones at [[Sarah Jane Smith]] and [[Jack Harkness]].  When you open up the single navbox at the bottom, all the others come tumbling out.  Tell me if you think that's not enough space.  I don't want it to get ''crazy'' with space between them — certainly I don't want anything ''close'' to even a half-line of space between them, but I could maybe go along with a ''few'' more pixels of distance between them.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''15:56:53 Fri&nbsp;'''25 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
(Incidentally, I've [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Interwiki_map#Tardis_Wiki put in a request over at Wikimedia] for them to add us to their inter-wikis. Might take a while before that's approved, but I thought it might be of interest, since that seems to be closer to your neck of the woods than mine.)
::Ohhhhh, the ''top'' margin colliding with text above it.  Yes, that's a valid concern.  I Had thought about this one, too, but I had thought it better to put the spacing on the bottom margin rather than the top.  Let me try reversing the margin to see what effect that has.  If it's usatisfactory, I might have to put this on the unresolved issues list for a bit, since I want to finish actually switching over the templates, and this issue wouldn't seem large enough to stop the rollout.  But you're right, it's every so slightly inelegant.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''16:23:06 Fri&nbsp;'''25 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
::Okay, if you will, please open up two windows to [[Sarah Jane Smith]].  In one of the two, clear your cache so that you're looking at the new version in one window and the old version in the other. Then if you would, report back on things you like about the change, and things you don't. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''16:35:01 Fri&nbsp;'''25 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>


{{please see|Aliens and enemies templates: the final battle}} {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''15:43:48 Tue&nbsp;'''29 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
EDIT: Importing means preserving the edit history, which is generally preferable, but there's also nothing wrong with bringing things back up to date yourself. Especially given they're ''our own edits''.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 05:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
: Ah, one other thing. As bureaucrats, on the independent wiki we now have access to [[Special:RenameUser]]. It really does what it says on the tin. Users might approach you with [[Help:Changing your username|user rename requests]] now.


== "Human" in infoboxes ==
: So long as there's nothing against the name in [[Tardis:Username policy]], and the username doesn't already have any registered edits on Tardis, I see no reason not to fulfil them. I have been recommending that users place their old name somewhere visible on their user pages, though, for the avoidance of confusion.


Yeah, the bot's "human" run kept getting aborted by a problem in the category tree that tends to create endless loops somewhere in the "British categories"  (locations in Britain, British monarchs, etc.).  So I kinda stopped on that project because I coudln't do it "in the background" of my restyling efforts. But I do intend to get back to it, and to do a mass infobox switch.  Hopefully it won't be too hard to do, but I am kinda of expecting that I can only do it ''semi''-automatically, in that I'll have to approve each bot change individually. Dunno, though, maybe I can just do multiple runs to account for those people who properly put pipes at the beginning of lines, and other runs where people put pipes at the end of lines (that is, '''|species = human''' versus the sloppier '''species = human |'''). {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''02:55:20 Wed&nbsp;'''30 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
: (I've only done one so far. It never once occurred to me before this would be something I'd be doing.){{User:SOTO/sig}} 05:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
::No, wait, that's stupid.  The limiting factor for the bot isn't the pipe.  It's whether the variable is "species" or "race" and the number of spaces around the equals sign.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''02:55:20 Wed&nbsp;'''30 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
:::Try using a regex expression instead.  Something along the lines of 'species( *)=( *)human' -> 'species\1=\2Human'  (for example). -- [[User:Sulfur|sulfur]] 11:58, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
::::Yeah, sulfur is of course correct.  I've just been a) preoccupied and b) lazy.  It's actually just a regex away.  So to answer your latest question, no, it won't hurt if you change things manually.  On the other hand, I don't want you wasting your time.  I really will get on it.  Maybe right now, in fact :)  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''13:13:29 Wed&nbsp;'''30 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
::::::Okay, the bot's on it right now, after a few minutes of tinkering with sulfur's suggested regex.  However random your efforts have been, you can step back and concentrate on other things.  I expect that this run will take several hours, possibly as much as 24, thanks to our still-looping category tree structure. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''15:53:21 Wed&nbsp;'''30 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
:::Okay, the bot has given up — but only an hour ago.  That was a long run, but, hey, it's most of the database.  If you find a nest of these lower-case-h "humans" in infoboxes, please don't change them, but let me know.  It'll help me further refine the bot runs if I know the bot is missing a category here or there.  But I'm guessin' you won't find much, cause it made something approaching 3000 edits. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''01:13:58 Fri&nbsp;'''01 Apr 2011&nbsp;</span>


== One user and untagged images ==
=== Renaming users ===
I've have asked [[User:Jeffman52001]] several time now to add a license tag to the image he has upload and by judging from his talk page, you have as well. On all occasions he has ignored me and not selected a license. On one occasions I add to add the licenses myself, but it should be him that is doing it, not me. I have warned him action will be taken if he continues to ignore me, and I've offered to help him if he cannot see the drop down menu to select the license, which he has not taken up with me. What action should we take? Is there a away to prevent an image from being uploaded without a license? Thanks. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 17:28, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
:: That is a really good point regarding the potential for abuse. I had only really considered allowing requests from long-term trusted users.
:I've looked into this a little bit, and what I've found is that it is theoretically possible.  However, according to [[w:forum:"None selected" in upload form should pull up a template]], it may be a violation of the TOS to alter things so as to prevent someone from uploading without a license.  Or it may not.  Nevertheless, I did find some javascript that looked like it was going to work.  But it hasn't. If this is going to be successful, it must be done through js, and, frankly, I'm not that strong with js.  So all I can tell you is that I tried something and . . . it didn't work.  I'll look back in on this subject from time to time, but I haven't found a way to do it easily.  I certainly haven't found any solutions on a ''wikia'' wiki.  (My attempted code comes from an outside wiki running MediaWiki.)  I'll keep looking, but it's not super high on my priority list, since we do have a tool that shows us pics without a license.  We can then pretty easily delete these.  It's not as good as preventing the problem in the first place, but it's relatively easier to fix than other problems which don't have associated automatically-generated reports. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''02:17:18 Fri&nbsp;'''01 Apr 2011&nbsp;</span>


== Can you help me? ==
:: We'll need something in place to prevent user rename requests from being fulfilled that would too closely resemble other well-known users, for one thing... which can be hard to scale when the once-active user they might be confused for is long-gone. (Maybe checking against [[Special:ListUsers]], ordered by edit count, up to a certain point, should be procedure, in case.)


I am very new to Tardis wiki. Revanvolatrelundar has been stalking me since I signed up and when I asked him to stop, he threatened to ban me.  Can you help?  [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/User:Whoisdrwho | Who is Dr. Who?] 15:02, April 1, 2011 (UTC)
:: We'll definitely need to lay out clearer policy. Watching out for signs of sockpuppet abuse is another, definitely. I think the first thing I'd lay out is a minimum threshold of time or number of edits with us in order to make the request. Maybe it should be on a public page, like a smaller-scale [[Tardis:User rights nominations]].


== Admin page update ==
:: A user requesting a name change would have to fill out a template where they confirm they meet the requirements. Maybe we'd allow very small scale changes to the name '''exactly once''' even soon after account creation, in the case of typos and such, but then require that they stick with us first.


i was just looking at the admon page, and i saw that some people listed as admins, haven't logged in since 2005! I think the page needs to be updated, and people that have not logged in or been active on the wiki since say April 2009 should be dropped. This is just a opinion. Thanks. [[User:Ghastly9090|Ghastly9090]] 14:00, April 2, 2011 (UTC)
:: The one thing I'd like to avoid is blindly approving any request from a user we don't really know. I think we can make it work, though!


== Series 6 ==
:: (P.S. I brought in [[Tardis:User talk pages]].){{User:SOTO/sig}} 06:42, 28 February 2024 (UTC)


Hi. I've just had a thought that I got after having a look on another wiki. Basically a reallly big thing was released and they locked editing on the wiki to prevent congestion. I know we already do this for episode pages, but shouldn't we make this a bit more bigger? People will be creating character pages as the episodes roll on, so mabye a editing block should be made so that only registered members and mabye just admins would be able to edit. I know this has probably been considered before, but seeing as the series is being broadcast in the U.S at the same time as the U.K we should be a bit more controlled. [[User:Ghastly9090|Ghastly9090]] 16:45, April 4, 2011 (UTC)
::: It's looking good so far! Do I have your permission to make small changes while it's still in your sandbox?


What do you think? [[Special:Contributions/85.210.91.65|85.210.91.65]] 14:49, April 5, 2011 (UTC)
::: It might also be good to quickly say that Tardis bureaucrats reserve the right to adjust the minimum number of edits (agreed, amount of time would be a bad idea) as new request data comes in. Please continue editing with us if you haven't met the mark yet! (Making sure to keep to good-faith edits. We probably need to introduce a variant on the GOR rules for hitting edit requirements.)
== General update ==
In addition to matters mentioned at [[MediaWiki:Community-corner]], here's an update on matters you've either talked to me about in the last week, or things that likely will interest you.
*Gave up on the collision thing on [[Tardis:Quote of the Week nominations]], and just made {{tl|qotw}} fit between the toc and the left margin of the page.  It makes them look a little short as you go down the page, but it's not horrible. The tempalte clears the TOC, I'm able to get back transparent TOCs and everything's legible.  If you have further ideas about how you'd like that page to look, please let me know.
*{{tl|NameSort}} is nearly fully implemented on real world pages, which is probably where it needed to be done first.  The "cleanup run", described in the community-corner message, still has a few hours left in it. I encourage you to read the documentation if you haven't already, so that you can understand the limitations of it, and the direction that future development might go.  Until I can find a way to get it to play nice with one-word tiles and disambiguated names, I'm a li'l hesitant of doing a full, automated run on character pages.  So that side of things will come in more slowly.  But, hey, I'm just excited to finally have real world people consistently sorting by their last names at last.  I ''hate'' having to edit a page, find out if there's a defaultsort key, and add it if it's not there — all to add one stupid category. Now we can reliably add categories ''without'' having to edit articles. 
*DWIA license template format switched, thanks to your catch.  I haven't actually gone back to check whether I've gotten everything in the license format switch, or the top of page format switch.  I think I'm probably missing the spoiler tag, {{tl|current}} and some other stragglers, but I'll get to 'em in due course.
*As for stub category nomenclature, y'know, I'd honestly never thought of making them match the proper, un-stubby categories.  I'd only thought to make them match the stub template.  So, {{tl|drink stub}} matches [[category:drink stubs]], but not, as you say, [[:category:beverages]].  Course, the thing is with the particular example you provided, there is no "beverages" category.  The category is [[:Category:Foods and beverages]], so when that cat is broken up (as it should be) the easy solution to this particular problem is just to make the regular cat, [[:category:drinks]] and [[:category:foods]].  As you can see, though, the categories will never exactly match, because category names are almost always ''plural''. So I dunno if you're ever gonna get a perfect match, cause the general nomenclauture is cat:noun stubs and cat:nouns.
*Moving on to the idea of a location stub.  This was on my list to do, but then I ran into the thought that one day we might expand our real world coverage to include locations, as used during [[location filming]]. And so I paused before adding that stub, not wanting to confuse it with geographical locations, in universe.  At the moment, I'm going with the idea that {{tl|region stub}} works to cover the idea of a general "location" in the sense that you mean.  Any thoughts on how to resolve (and pictorally represent in 25px or less) the distinction between in-universe and real-world general locations would be appreciated.
*Canon rewrite, and your suggestions on how to improve that, was temporarily sidelined by the question of whether ''Curse'' was canon.  Now that this seems to have been conclusively resolved, I'll probably be returning to the rewrite and integrating your suggestions soon.
*In the last week my powers with the bot have increased, well, exponentially.  I finally learned how to do truly massive, multiple changes simultaneously.  One of the practical applications will be something I think you'd be all over.  The permanent policing of British spelling all over the wiki at the same time.  As I know this is a particular bugbear of yours, I thought I'd tell you about it.  Basically, if you can provide me with a list of all the words that you want to make sure are spelled the British way, I can correct them simultaneously.  I just don't want to do the research and the listification.  But if you gimme the list, we can really start to make good on that part of the MOS. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''15:48:25 Tue&nbsp;'''12 Apr 2011&nbsp;</span>


== I Think we have a template missing ==
::: Also, if we are formally suggesting that new-ish users make new accounts (instead of granting one minor rename request in the first week, which ''does'' count in using up their 12 months), we'll have to make clear that they need to declare their old account per [[T:SOCK]], unless they didn't make any edits with us.


Just on the impossible astronaut page. The plots a bit short (well 1/2 an episode short.) Do we have a "this sections unfinished" template[[User:Joshoedit|Josho]] 08:23, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
::: Agreed on requirement to declare your old account for 6 months minimum. There should also be something, perhaps a separate page like [[Help:My rename request was rejected]], which makes clear that repeated attempts to log for already-rejected names (or still too similar to them, or during a period when you have no "token") will result in a warning and then a temporarybban. If you've already been rejected, and you're not sure, ask a bureaucrat clarifying questions before submitting a request.


== Background ==
::: [[User:Bongolium500|Bongo]] can probably make us a form with the required inputs, so it automatically creates a new section with syntax for user stats, once we get <code><nowiki>{{#editcount:USER}}</nowiki></code> up and running (and a link to a DPL page I can work on building for help finding similar usernames). But it might be worth manually checking.


Hey, I was just wondering if the background is positioned well on your screen. It's fine on mine but I realise it could vary. Thanks----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 15:13, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
::: Officially halting all user rename requests until we have this all set up and worked out.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 06:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


There's a good couple of centimetres between the moon and my browser's edge. I agree that dark colours work well against this colour. The main problem I came across when making the background was the file limit. Okay, it wasn't that much of a problem, but it might throw any detailed versions out the window.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 15:24, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
:::: (I do also wonder if we should decide what to do in cases where new users have given themselves policy-breaking names like "Tardis admin" or some hate speech. Should we, by course, rename the user to "Permablock--638528", ie. some random string of 6 digits (wouldn't want anyone to see it as a leaderboard, in sequence), in order to remove that vandalism/bothersome claim, after blocking?)


Yeah, I just filled in the remaining space around the image in the colour the background was set to. I'm not that keen on the titling of images as it just looks a bit cheap. If you copy this image ([[:File:Wiki-background]]) into an editing program (I used photoshop), you could take a look at the various images that can be used.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 15:42, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
:::: (It seems to me that would be a good idea.){{User:SOTO/sig}} 06:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


== Thank you ==
Thanks! I've gone ahead and made a few relatively minor changes to [[Tardis:User rename policy]], and I've streamlined the request page to make things easier. I also added in the total number of requests a user has made in the section heading (needs to be manually changed from #1 for further requests).


You have provided a tremendous amount of guidance to me since I have registered, by answering my questions and pointing me to the right policies/guides and I just wanted to let you know I really appreciate all your assistance!  -- [[User:Ripmssmith|Rest In Peace Sarah Jane]] \ [[User_talk:Ripmssmith|Talk to me!]] 16:32, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
I'm pretty happy with both pages, personally. I've also updated [[Help:Changing your username]] now.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 08:27, 30 March 2024 (UTC)


==Background continued==
=== Checkuser checks and balances ===
Is that off the screen now? You may have to clear the cache if your not seeing changes. Thanks for the help.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 17:07, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
: On a separate but related note, we also have the ability to grant users (read: ourselves) the <code>checkuser</code> role, which is even more serious.


Yes, of course. If you take preference to the previous image, you can revert back to it at the above image link. Thanks again.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 17:22, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
: Bongo suggested — and I agree — that for complete transparency, only when it's absolutely necessary to check for suspected socks, we will '''''temporarily''''' assign that role, perform the check, and then remove it again. Logs of any checkuser scan are also provided to the public, including an admin summary.


== Vandal ==
: I strongly suggest we hold off on this for as long as possible, as we get settled in and update our policies. We need to think deeply about oversight and transparency, now that [[T:LOCAL WINS|local policy really ''does'' prevail]].


: If you'd find it helpful, I can also invite you to a space where such things can be discussed with our sysadmins, who laid out our [[Tardis:Privacy policy|Privacy policy]] and [[Tardis:General disclaimer|General disclaimer]].{{User:SOTO/sig}} 06:31, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


== RE: Thanks ==


You're very welcome. Lovely to have you! {{User:Aquanafrahudy/Sig}}


I come from the Mass Effect wiki with a warning. Their was a vandal that originated from our wiki(as far as we know) and has done over 500 vandalism edits, he has also moved to atleast eight different wikis including the Call of duty wiki, World of warcraft wiki, and the L.A. Noire wiki. If you see a guy by the name of lancer or spithog98, thats probably him(just so you know this guy mimics other users, there is a real Lancer by the name of Lancer1289, you can contact him [http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User:Lancer1289 here] for more information. I am going to stay here and help monitor this wiki until I can determin that he wont come here or he has been stoped.[http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=User:Legionwrex&action=edit&redlink=1 Legionwrex] 23:06, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
== Bumbling around the new place ==


== I won't be coming back ==
Hello! A bit late, but I’m finding my way around the new digs. I was “surprised-but-not-surprised” when I learned the news of the migration; I certainly have seen enough headaches from arbitrary Fandom diktats to understand the reasons for the decision.
Your user Revanvolatrelundar needs to be told to cool it. I just spent a bunch of time voluntarily adding information (as a Wikipedia veteran with 50,000 edits who has decided to protect his privacy by remaining unregistered in editing Wikia sites) and he's gone and undone most if not all of it. There's a difference between policing vandals and wiki-stalking IPs simply because they aren't registered. The net effect is I will no longer contribute to this Wiki, and in fact will probably never darken its door again. There are plenty of more welcoming sites out there. I'd ask for an apology but since I won't be coming back here, there's no point. I wonder how many potential contributors are abandoning this wiki (check the [[Eleventh Doctor]] talk page and you'll find another one about to walk). [[Special:Contributions/68.146.78.43|68.146.78.43]] 15:33, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
 
Although I was an infrequent editor and an even more infrequent admin on the old site, it would be nice to retain the admin bit. (Like the Doctor’s “parts” that Cassandra refers to in “New Earth”, it’s nice to have them even if they are “barely used.”)
 
Please let me know if there is anything I should be aware of about in the change beyond what’s in the general announcements. Thanks! —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 
:Ooh, that was quick! Looks like SOTO took care of it without me even asking! Now, that’s service! Never mind me, then. —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
 
== "Talking dog" ==
Hey, I really do appreciate your going through the proposed mergers lately, but [[Talk:Talking dog]] was an ongoing discussion; it wasn't settled that it should be merged. Do please check these things! As you know, it's very tricky to ''undo'' a merge that was done in error. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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Wiki Manager[[edit source]]

Hi Tangerineduel! My name is Playsonic2 and I’m the Fandom Wiki Manager assigned to TARDIS Data Core. I am here to help the community and be a liaison to full-time Fandom staff.

I also happen to be an administrator at the Spanish Doctor Who Wiki, which has me spending considerable amount of time here (adding interlanguage links mostly). I know this wiki wonderfully organised and that CzechOut assists with any technical issues, but if there are ever any issues I could assist with, I would be pleased to help. I will be available on my talk page! ~Playsonic2 09:03, May 20, 2019 (UTC)

Heya! Just here to let you know that Fandom now has an official Discord server and lots of editors are joining. In this blog post at Community Central you can find more information, as well as a server invite link if you wish to join us. There are many editors there, as well as staff members, and a variety of channels. Cheers! Playsonic2 ☎ 07:46, July 11, 2019 (UTC)

BBC[[edit source]]

Hi, thanks for merging the BBC pages. I just finished removing all the links to "BBC (real world)" and deleted that page. User:OncomingStorm12th and I cleaned up the BBC page, so it flows better. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 02:20, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

Mark I Travel Machine[[edit source]]

Hi there. This will be a blast from the past: over ten years ago now you edited AUDIO: Guilt and added a note that the prototype Dalek seen in the story was of the same design (by description and implication) seen in TV: The Daleks. If you remember could you please elaborate on this description and implication as I find it hard to reconcile this fact as the Daleks Davros eventually presented to the world were Mark III Travel Machines and not Mark Is. Thanks in advance. --Borisashton ☎ 12:01, September 21, 2019 (UTC)

About the Deceased category[[edit source]]

A few days ago, I noticed there was no deceased category for this wiki, so I thought I should create one. So I tried, and saw that you had chosen for this page not to be created, as you judged it not useful since all articles were written in the past tense. Of course, a deceased category for a time-travel related series isn't an easy task. Should be put any characters that most likely died of old age in this category ? Personally, I don't think so. In my opinion, if we were to have such a category on this wiki, only the ones whose deaths were either witnessed in the series or seen as absolute (for instance Amy and Rory's), when we know those characters will very most likely never be seen again. Well, they could in some extreme cases, then they will just be removed. So as you probably have guessed by now, I am writing this message to you in order to ask you to re-considerate your decision regarding this category. Of course, in the case where you would accept, I would gladly take care of filling this category myself (i have seen all the new series but not the old ones yet, it's only a matter of time). I will then await for your decision on this matter, With all due respect,

ThePurpleShadow ☎ 13:21, October 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re:Deceased category[[edit source]]

Thanks to your message, I now understand your point of view better. There is indeed a lot I didn't take into account when I thought this category was needed on this wiki. I usually visit wikis and recently have been adding/completing deceased categories on others, like Reborn's for example. So when I saw this one I thought it was missing, and it could have been useful. But now I see why this isn't the case, and I am sorry I bothered you for such a matter. Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to write me a reply that could enlighten me about this wiki,

ThePurpleShadow ☎ 19:15, October 29, 2019 (UTC)

Tardis:User rights nominations[[edit source]]

Hi. As you know, since you left a brief comment there, I've started a self-nomination over Tardis:User rights nominations. I'm not sure how up-to-track you've been keeping yourself around the wiki, but I thought of bringing to your attention that the usual "one week" period for comments has passed, and you might (if you have the time to, of course) weight in if more time's need or something of the sorts. Anyway, thanks in advance. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 23:36, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw on your "contributions" section that you still show up once in a while. I'm glad to see this. Also, thanks for closing it. Now into new territory. :) OncomingStorm12th ☎ 14:54, February 1, 2020 (UTC)

Left-over vandalism[[edit source]]

Hey. Thanks for dealing with the two vandals just now. As per the restrictions in Tardis:Vandalism policy regarding removal of others' comments may I have your permission to remove all the comments at User talk:Borisashton#Singular they? Thanks in advance. --Borisashton ☎ 15:11, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

I'd like to say thanks too and ask the same regarding my own page. --DCLM ☎ 15:15, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. Also, I have no idea how to archive the talk page discussions. --DCLM ☎ 15:48, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Template order[[edit source]]

Oh, it makes sense. Since most of these "small, rectangle templates" usually go on top, I'd assumed it was ended up being moved to the bottom of the page during a bot run, and went sort of unnoticed, but now looking at the page history I realize it was there since day one. Will change it back. Thanks for the heads up. OncomingStorm12th (talk) 16:15, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Just FYI, since you banned them[[edit source]]

User:Dissident Prodigy appears to be a sock puppet User:Unbanned reality talk. The former was created suspiciously quickly after the latter was banned, the names are vaguely similar, and the former’s only contributions are removing messages insulting the latter from his talk page (including that one message about mentioning logical fallacies by name being ‘reddit-tier arguing’, which, if you look at the history, the latter kept trying to remove - obviously it hit too close to home), as well as a supsicious cryptic comment about the ‘shoe [being] on the other foot’ on Shamabala’s talk page. Probably something you should look into. 82.132.220.11talk to me 13:04, February 6, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks[[edit source]]

Thank you for putting an end to User:120.20.195.104's obstruction of the Wikia. It started on the Series 12 page, which admin Shambala108 had to lock because they continued to undo facts. I replied to Shambala on the talk page to do something and they kept counter-arguing it. Then I took to editing other pages, which they then kept undoing, obstructing work. Then I had to report to Shambala108 about it, which they followed and kept trying to argue again, this time going at me with personal attacks. --DCLM ☎ 13:10, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Furthermore they also broke the Tardis:Spoiler policy by naming spoilers outside the series page, specifically on Shambala's talk page. --DCLM ☎ 13:15, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully, you are right. But I do have my worries that this could continue. And without accusations, I do have slight suspicions that this in itself is a continuation of past actions, as I do remember a user of the past (half a year back or so) who engaged in the same kind of actions with the same motives. --DCLM ☎ 13:31, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

The user is back at again with these removals of sourced material. Could you please take action before this escalates once again? Thank you. --DCLM ☎ 07:37, February 19, 2020 (UTC)

You agree it's unsourced? Cheers! Best to lock the page again so Danny doesn't edit-war. 120.20.172.137talk to me 07:40, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
YOU edit-war because you won't accept the facts as they are. YOU were blocked for this. Not once, but twice. Tangerineduel was easy on you with a one day block, but Shambala made your block longer for these actions. Why can't you take the hint that you are messing the page up by doing this? --DCLM ☎ 07:45, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
You admitted it's unsourced. You agree with me. Thank you! Why can't you read what you say? 120.20.172.137talk to me 07:47, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
"I think you need reading glasses. I didn't agree. I said you removed SOURCED material. Do you never get tired of going against this Wikia? You'll probably end up getting another block. --DCLM ☎ 07:49, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
How's it sourced? Explain to me where it says it's definitely a Christmas special. Also point me to the part where it says it may be completely wrong. If you can't, then I think you need reading glasses. 120.20.172.137talk to me 07:59, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
You tried this once before, remember? Without luck. Oh, and you have no respect for the spoiler policy as you again posted a spoiler where they are not allowed. I'm done with arguing this fact that you can't accept. The admins can take it from here. --DCLM ☎ 08:10, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
Because you won't read the source. Just admit it. You've never opened it. You'll never even mention the bit where it says the source could be wrong. Copy-paste it. I dare you. Bet you won't. Scared of admitting you're wrong. 120.20.172.137talk to me 08:21, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
Read it multiple times, thanks. Still not wrong. Oh, and why would I deliberately break the spoiler policy? --DCLM ☎ 08:29, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
Clearly not. Told you that you won't confirm that I'm right concerning the source. I'm right again? Wow! I'll be back here when it airs before Christmas, just to tell you that I told you so. 120.20.172.137talk to me 08:31, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
The only regrettable thing is that I can't deal with disobedient Wikia-trolls like you myself and I have to pester another poor admin to take care of it because people like you keep coming back for more. Unable to accept things as they are. --DCLM ☎ 08:39, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
Unable to accept sources as they are? Hey, that's you! Won't even accept what it says. Can I make my CV, say that I paid for the whole series since 1963 and put in online? That's a reliable source, yeah? You seem to think so! 120.20.172.137talk to me 08:50, February 19, 2020 (UTC)

Re: UCP and nomination[[edit source]]

Ah, thank you for getting back to me! Yes, that sounds fair. And I have indeed familiarised myself with the UCP on other Wikis; seemed only sensible.

(I don't think it will affect the Wiki too badly, from what I've seen; the only area where I'm worried is the Forum, depending on how we handle the situation. In fact, the option to fill in image file descriptions within the source editor of a page, rather than having to go through Special:Upload ahead of time, even seems like it might help significantly with issues of new users posting images without any licenses or categories.) --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 17:22, September 20, 2020 (UTC)

Well… as you'll doubtless have noticed, we have, now, moved to the UCP, for better or for worse. Will you be able to get back to my case? --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 13:59, September 29, 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much! (Speaking of replies — you didn't actually reply to my response to your concerns in ==Neutral==; by all means do if there are areas I didn't address/more assurances you feel I should give.) --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 05:48, September 30, 2020 (UTC)
Point of information, I'm not sure we've finished the move to UCP. There are a variety of changes that come with UCP, the change to the forums is only one of them. I'm not sure that this is relevant, as the others aren't necessarily going to change much on an admin front to my knowledge, but it is something to bear in mind. (For instance, we still have "Recent Wiki Activity" on my end, which I'm certainly not complaining about, but shouldn't be the case? So I dunno what's going on, but it doesn't seem to be a full transition to UCP. Again, not sure if this is relevant to pausing the admin nom going forward, as the biggest issue there seemed to be the forums from my limited perspective, but it should be pointed out.) Najawin ☎ 09:10, September 30, 2020 (UTC)
Oh, absolutely! Had you had more to ask I would definitely have posted the answers on the nomination page.
As regards Najawin's message above, I mean, we had the banner announcing we had moved. It may be we are keeping WikiActivity after all as a special favour to one of the Original 100 Wikis? Who knows. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 14:20, September 30, 2020 (UTC)

Admin categories[[edit source]]

Since you moved yourself into a new category on Tardis:Administrators, I'm wondering if some of the admins listed in the "Frequently active admins" category should also be moved (or whether it's incumbent on them to move themselves). I know when I was newer a few months ago the category not quite lining up confused me. Najawin ☎ 21:18, October 2, 2020 (UTC)

Community Connect[[edit source]]

Hey there! Not sure we've spoken much, but I'm Chris - a Wiki Representative at Fandom. Have you heard of an event called Community Connect? It's a Fandom event where news is often revealed about the platform and you get to chat to other admins. It's virtual this year over Zoom or similar but no mic or camera needed. It's 7th + 8th August at 8-12 PT. Is this something you would be interested in attending? I can't guarantee an invite, but I can look into getting one sent to the email associated with your Fandom account --Spongebob456 talk <staff/>

Fandom projects[[edit source]]

Hi! Got a couple of things:

As this wiki used to use Special:Forum, Fandom wants to make sure that old forum links and references aren't cluttering up maintenance special pages (unusedfiles, needed pages etc). Would you mind checking and letting me know asap as to whether that's an issue for this wiki? Just looking for dead links to forums in special pages, or links to images used in forums but are now dead, stuff like that. No need to attempt to cleanup yourself, I just need to know if they exist.

Secondly, did you receive an email sent last week I believe inviting you to The Downstream on September 10th? The email is titled "[The Downstream] Ask Fandom Anything, Social Media Tips, and Data Insights". I just want to confirm you received the email as we know Fandom outreach emails often land in spam.

If you could let me know about both of those things, that would be fantastic. Thanks! --Spongebob456 talk <staff/> 09:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Temporary forums[[edit source]]

Hey! Hope all is well in your neck of the woods. Since you've been away, a new discussion's been going on, with our continuing need for forums to get things done again. As we've been in a transition period for a while, and user:CzechOut's still busy preparing the next stage of evolution, some users have proposed we make space for these necessary conversations.

Would be good to get another eye on this. Do you think you could have a look? It's over at Tardis talk:Temporary forums.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 07:01, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Discussions AbuseFilter[[edit source]]

Hey! A new feature is available on Discussions - Discussions AbuseFilter (DAF). This is designed to be a tool to help moderation on Discussions, if certain behaviours are being disruptive and making manual moderation difficult:

Not compulsory for anyone to use it etc, just letting you know it's here. As a note about forums, I have asked Czech about it and I know he is aware it's still needed. If I can help with anything though, please give me a shout on here or Discord! --Spongebob456 talk <staff/> 20:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Joledex?[[edit source]]

Im not really sure because it has been a while back. Maybe because I wasn't sure about the spelling of the name 08:46, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Admin nomination[[edit source]]

Hi Tangerineduel, just wanted to ping you to let you know that the admin nomination for User:Bongolium500 at Tardis:User rights nominations has passed the one week threshold and is ready for conclusion. Hope you've been well! – n8 (☎) 14:15, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Hey — cheers on closing Bongolium's nomination, but just letting you know that his actual user rights don't appear to have been changed yet? Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 13:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Ah, makes sense! Thanks. (This is just why we need Bongolium; I'm no good at the coding stuff…) Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 13:43, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Re:Admin - Welcome![[edit source]]

Thanks for the welcome! Don't worry about the wait: everyone has their busy moments. I look forward to getting started with some of my new responsibilities! Bongo50 ☎ 17:20, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Temporary Forums Are Live![[edit source]]

Hello!

Just wanted to notify you that, User:CzechOut's final deadline of "by New Year's Day" having passed, and following in-depth discussion between myself and fellow admins User:SOTO, User:OncomingStorm12th and User:Bongolium500, we have decided to activate Tardis:Temporary forums, come what may. A sitenotice has been set to inform the community of this development, and I am taking it upon myself to personally update our Administrators on the situation, as well as yourself.

As the name implies, we hope the Temporary Forums will remain — well — temporary. Any work on reactivating proper DPL Forums will still be welcome and appreciated; this system is a further fine-tuning of the setup Bongolium500 had proposed in December 2021, which it means is designed from the ground up to be easy to transfer into the actual DPL Forums if we should get those back in the near future after all.

But it has been multiple years since the Wiki has had a venue for changing policy and forming community consensus on important matters. Bongolium500 and SOTO put forward the first draft of the Temporary Forums a full year ago — and were convinced to retract it by a promise that the real Forums would come ‘very soon’; and here we are. I don't think anyone's at fault; I do think everyone has the Wiki's best interests at heart. But the time has come to realise that the overly-optimistic strategy of endlessly putting off an imperfect temporary solution in pursuit of a perfect one "soon" has failed, resoundingly. It is time for a different approach. The Tardis community are owed a different approach. If you have active DPL Forums to give us, we will take them gladly. But we cannot sacrifice one more promising alternative to a nebulous future possibility which has already proven more difficult to achieve that you'd expected several times over. It is our hope that you can understand respect our decision in this matter.

We four elementals behind the Temporary Forums would like to reassure the rest of the admin team that this necessary step is not intended to create more work for them unbidden. Four are, if it comes to that, plenty enough to keep the peace a Forum with no more than six threads running at a time; we would be thrilled to see the rest of the team embracing the Temporary Forums, but please don't feel any obligation to do so.

Happy New Year, happy editing — and happy contribution to the New Forums!

Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 11:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Bot[[edit source]]

Hi, I was wondering if you knew what the process was for an admin to obtain a bot? T:HOW BOT seems geared towards non-admins. I have experience with programming and would like to use a bot to automate certain tasks. Bongo50 ☎ 19:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm familiar with the technical process of bot creation. However, all a bot really is is a second account with the bot user group which can only be granted by a bureaucrat so I was wondering what the procedure to obtain this is, if there is a procedure, or if I should just create the account and point it your way for you to add the admin and ot user groups. Bongo50 ☎ 16:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. I've created User:Botgo50. If you could assign it the "administrator" and "bot" user groups, that would be great. This is less important to me, but, while you're at it, would you be able to assign my main account "administrator (Semantic MediaWiki)"? I think I'm the only person using SMW at the moment and this group would be useful. Bongo50 ☎ 15:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Heads up about the thanks extension[[edit source]]

Hi. I just wanted to give you a heads up that Tardis is testing the "thanks" extension which Fandom will be rolling out to all wikis soon. This extension allows editors to thank other editors for their edits. The editor being thanked will then recieve a notification. Therefore, while you're actively performing edits, you may receieve a few more notifications than normal. If you notice any bugs, pass them onto User:Spongebob456. Bongo50 ☎ 19:59, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Re: Tardis Data Core change to Tardis Wiki[[edit source]]

Did we actually decide to officially change the name? If so, I can run through the Tardis namespace with my bot and get things updated. Bongo50 ☎ 14:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

For what it's worth it's not my understanding that "Tardis Data Core" is obsolete. We were, and remain, "the Tardis Data Core Wiki" in full; our old logo abridged this to Tardis Data Core, the new one abridges it to Tardis Wiki. That's my read. But if mileages on this vary too heavily (it seems concerning that out of us three no one is actually sure), we may need a thread to try and gauge what the community actually wants before we do anything drastic either way. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 15:59, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
I actually thought our full name was "Tardis Data Core, the Doctor Who Wiki". Bongo50 ☎ 16:21, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
I agree that a forum thread is a good idea. Does anyone particuarly want to start it? If not, I'm happy to do so within a few days. Bongo50 ☎ 18:36, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Ah, excellent! Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 10:45, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Great! Bongo50 ☎ 15:48, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Can you give admin to my bot?[[edit source]]

Hi, I've been running User:Botgo50 relatively succesfully for a while now but it'd be really helpful if it could be given admin, mostly so that it can edit protected pages. Would you be able to do that next time you're arround? Thanks. Bongo50 ☎ 19:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Re: Bot admin request[[edit source]]

Thank you very much! Bongo50 ☎ 15:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Admin+[[edit source]]

Hey there! I’m reaching out to introduce the Admin+ program (if you haven’t heard about it already!) & let you know I’m here if you have any questions about it. Take a look at the details here & feel free to send over any questions you have. pikushi ✧.* <staff /> 20:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Request for help[[edit source]]

Hi! I was wondering if I could get you to look into this issue. For various reasons (which I would be glad to tell you if you wish), I don't feel I am the right person to address this, and I definitely don't think any of the newer admins could help. I feel like this situation is starting to remind me of something from long ago. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 01:42, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

re:Recent edits[[edit source]]

I think I get what you're saying, but I wanted to ask for some clarification. I was always told it is best to leave a reason behind reversions in the edit summaries, but I think your saying to only do so for a limited number of times before taking things to a talk page? BananaClownMan ☎ 11:39, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Since you're on[[edit source]]

Can you block 119.111.220.93‎? It's some random user that will do a ton of vandalism, get blocked, and then come back under a new IP a few weeks later. Najawin ☎ 07:13, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

RE: Wild Blue Yonder Numbers[[edit source]]

Hi there! Hope you are well. Per your response on my talk page, I wanted to check this. So does that mean it is best I leave those pages alone then and leave you and the order admins to sort out the whole merging thing? Looking forward to your reply. Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 11:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Re. Financial crisis of 2007[[edit source]]

While I'm not an expert on the topic, it seems to me that the credit crunch was one of the events that followed the financial crisis of 2007; the 2008 credit crunch wasn't the "main" incident. Although "credit crunch of 2008" is stated in dialogue while "financial crisis of 2007" isn't (to the best of my knowledge) it seems misleading to name the page "credit crunch of 2008".

It'd be like if D-Day was named in the DWU but World War II wasn't; it'd be incorrect to name the larger conflict "D-Day", even though in this hypothetical situation that name isn't conjectural while the name of the larger conflict would be.

But then, there easily could be a story that uses the name "financial crisis of 2007" somewhere, which maychave not been documented on the Wiki yet.

13:53, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

RE: Prop delete query[[edit source]]

Hey! Sorry I missed your message; I still haven't adapted to talk page notifications being moved to the bell. It's been great seeing you around more recently, by the way.

At time of writing, the only of my user subpages not related to the Forum Archive is the Five Doctors home media sandbox page, from a project it was ultimately decided in the forums not to proceed with anymore. (Shambala actually added that tag, not me, but I've been holding onto it in case there happens to be a revival in the New Forums.)

The Forum Archive has been on pause for a while due to a number of personal circumstances, and now it's a little stuck until I have access to a personal computer again, unfortunately. Those message-level pages (each message needs its own subpage due to the method of archiving, which meant organising large masses of files by adapting a spreadsheet made from an unrelated output) tagged were found to be spam posts, so the next step will be properly removing them from the final archive subpages before launch.

I should be able to complete those pre-launch steps from a library computer, come to think of it, so I hope to have time for that soon. I do appreciate your reminder!
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 05:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Deletions[[edit source]]

Two pages I added and edited were deleted. Kiviniss Ak And Rom Kor-Marisi Were two character editions direct from author Simon Guerrier As listed in the credits. Did I add them incorrectly? Thank you – The preceding unsigned comment was added by BrentSmith66 (talk • contribs) .

Welcome[[edit source]]

Well it's certainly great to have you! I'm glad you made it. I do seem to remember rumblings way back when in my own early days.

I can't imagine it would be fun sticking around with most of our support forked over here. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't sad to leave it behind, as exciting as all these new opportunities are to build the wiki the way we want it!

I'm going to make a concerted effort soon to import missed changes from the 5 or so days we missed during final preparations, by the way. If there's anything in particular you want me to bring over from before you got here, so you don't feel you have to re-do edits, do let me know!

(Incidentally, I've put in a request over at Wikimedia for them to add us to their inter-wikis. Might take a while before that's approved, but I thought it might be of interest, since that seems to be closer to your neck of the woods than mine.)

EDIT: Importing means preserving the edit history, which is generally preferable, but there's also nothing wrong with bringing things back up to date yourself. Especially given they're our own edits.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 05:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Ah, one other thing. As bureaucrats, on the independent wiki we now have access to Special:RenameUser. It really does what it says on the tin. Users might approach you with user rename requests now.
So long as there's nothing against the name in Tardis:Username policy, and the username doesn't already have any registered edits on Tardis, I see no reason not to fulfil them. I have been recommending that users place their old name somewhere visible on their user pages, though, for the avoidance of confusion.
(I've only done one so far. It never once occurred to me before this would be something I'd be doing.)
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 05:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Renaming users[[edit source]]

That is a really good point regarding the potential for abuse. I had only really considered allowing requests from long-term trusted users.
We'll need something in place to prevent user rename requests from being fulfilled that would too closely resemble other well-known users, for one thing... which can be hard to scale when the once-active user they might be confused for is long-gone. (Maybe checking against Special:ListUsers, ordered by edit count, up to a certain point, should be procedure, in case.)
We'll definitely need to lay out clearer policy. Watching out for signs of sockpuppet abuse is another, definitely. I think the first thing I'd lay out is a minimum threshold of time or number of edits with us in order to make the request. Maybe it should be on a public page, like a smaller-scale Tardis:User rights nominations.
A user requesting a name change would have to fill out a template where they confirm they meet the requirements. Maybe we'd allow very small scale changes to the name exactly once even soon after account creation, in the case of typos and such, but then require that they stick with us first.
The one thing I'd like to avoid is blindly approving any request from a user we don't really know. I think we can make it work, though!
(P.S. I brought in Tardis:User talk pages.)
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 06:42, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
It's looking good so far! Do I have your permission to make small changes while it's still in your sandbox?
It might also be good to quickly say that Tardis bureaucrats reserve the right to adjust the minimum number of edits (agreed, amount of time would be a bad idea) as new request data comes in. Please continue editing with us if you haven't met the mark yet! (Making sure to keep to good-faith edits. We probably need to introduce a variant on the GOR rules for hitting edit requirements.)
Also, if we are formally suggesting that new-ish users make new accounts (instead of granting one minor rename request in the first week, which does count in using up their 12 months), we'll have to make clear that they need to declare their old account per T:SOCK, unless they didn't make any edits with us.
Agreed on requirement to declare your old account for 6 months minimum. There should also be something, perhaps a separate page like Help:My rename request was rejected, which makes clear that repeated attempts to log for already-rejected names (or still too similar to them, or during a period when you have no "token") will result in a warning and then a temporarybban. If you've already been rejected, and you're not sure, ask a bureaucrat clarifying questions before submitting a request.
Bongo can probably make us a form with the required inputs, so it automatically creates a new section with syntax for user stats, once we get {{#editcount:USER}} up and running (and a link to a DPL page I can work on building for help finding similar usernames). But it might be worth manually checking.
Officially halting all user rename requests until we have this all set up and worked out.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 06:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
(I do also wonder if we should decide what to do in cases where new users have given themselves policy-breaking names like "Tardis admin" or some hate speech. Should we, by course, rename the user to "Permablock--638528", ie. some random string of 6 digits (wouldn't want anyone to see it as a leaderboard, in sequence), in order to remove that vandalism/bothersome claim, after blocking?)
(It seems to me that would be a good idea.)
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 06:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I've gone ahead and made a few relatively minor changes to Tardis:User rename policy, and I've streamlined the request page to make things easier. I also added in the total number of requests a user has made in the section heading (needs to be manually changed from #1 for further requests).

I'm pretty happy with both pages, personally. I've also updated Help:Changing your username now.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 08:27, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Checkuser checks and balances[[edit source]]

On a separate but related note, we also have the ability to grant users (read: ourselves) the checkuser role, which is even more serious.
Bongo suggested — and I agree — that for complete transparency, only when it's absolutely necessary to check for suspected socks, we will temporarily assign that role, perform the check, and then remove it again. Logs of any checkuser scan are also provided to the public, including an admin summary.
I strongly suggest we hold off on this for as long as possible, as we get settled in and update our policies. We need to think deeply about oversight and transparency, now that local policy really does prevail.
If you'd find it helpful, I can also invite you to a space where such things can be discussed with our sysadmins, who laid out our Privacy policy and General disclaimer.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 06:31, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

RE: Thanks[[edit source]]

You're very welcome. Lovely to have you! Aquanafrahudy 📢 🖊️

Bumbling around the new place[[edit source]]

Hello! A bit late, but I’m finding my way around the new digs. I was “surprised-but-not-surprised” when I learned the news of the migration; I certainly have seen enough headaches from arbitrary Fandom diktats to understand the reasons for the decision.

Although I was an infrequent editor and an even more infrequent admin on the old site, it would be nice to retain the admin bit. (Like the Doctor’s “parts” that Cassandra refers to in “New Earth”, it’s nice to have them even if they are “barely used.”)

Please let me know if there is anything I should be aware of about in the change beyond what’s in the general announcements. Thanks! —Josiah Rowe ☎ 19:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Ooh, that was quick! Looks like SOTO took care of it without me even asking! Now, that’s service! Never mind me, then. —Josiah Rowe ☎ 19:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

"Talking dog"[[edit source]]

Hey, I really do appreciate your going through the proposed mergers lately, but Talk:Talking dog was an ongoing discussion; it wasn't settled that it should be merged. Do please check these things! As you know, it's very tricky to undo a merge that was done in error. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 11:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

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