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I hope I might be able to interest you in a sufficiently non-trivial case of what should be the correct name for the page [[Mr Song]]. The current name is taken from the cast of ''[[The Diary of River Song]]'' and is clearly wrong (if only because of "Mr" alone). But the issue is more interesting... Oh, I was going to list all the relevant facts, but... spoilers (I don't know if you've listened to it already). The discussion is on the [[Talk:Mr Song|talk page]]. I am hesitant to start a general Panopticon thread because these tend to go on forever and we are not supposed to change anything until they're closed. Plus this is a sufficiently local issue affecting only two stories. I'd be very happy if you could lend your expertise on this topic. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:33, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
I hope I might be able to interest you in a sufficiently non-trivial case of what should be the correct name for the page [[Mr Song]]. The current name is taken from the cast of ''[[The Diary of River Song]]'' and is clearly wrong (if only because of "Mr" alone). But the issue is more interesting... Oh, I was going to list all the relevant facts, but... spoilers (I don't know if you've listened to it already). The discussion is on the [[Talk:Mr Song|talk page]]. I am hesitant to start a general Panopticon thread because these tend to go on forever and we are not supposed to change anything until they're closed. Plus this is a sufficiently local issue affecting only two stories. I'd be very happy if you could lend your expertise on this topic. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:33, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
== Categories ==
I think that some of your categories, like [[:Category:Race|Race]] or [[:Category:Difference|Difference]] are examples of [[Thread:193299|overcategorisation]]. I've explained it furthermore on the talk page. [[User:RoseTenthFan|RoseTenthFan]] [[User talk:RoseTenthFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:44, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Revision as of 13:44, 26 April 2016

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To save you the trouble, just call me SOTO.
Also, please sign your messages. Thanks.

× SmallerOnTheOutside (☎//)

Test

This is a test.
× SOTO (//) 09:23, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

This is another test. I'm starting to consider maybe writing something a bit less boring as a test. Maybe next time.
× SOTO (//) 09:31, March 15, 2014 (UTC)

Question

Cane we able to do image galleries here? LunarSolar 20:33, May 8, 2014 (UTC)

Series 8

Hey, I just wanted to remind you to be careful when posting edit summaries for the Series 8 page. Any spoilers in the edit summary will show up in both "recent changes" and "wiki activity". Thanks. Shambala108 22:54, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

Series 8

Episode 2's title is confirmed, please add it to the series 8 page. I've provided a citation (Radio Times) on Talk:Series 8 (Doctor Who).  Digifiend  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  Logos  CLG  DW  21:06, 14/8/2014 

The rest of the episode titles have been revealed on the BBC website. Link on the Series 8 talk page like last time.  Digifiend  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  Logos  CLG  DW  12:19, 18/8/2014 
Just posted a link to episode 1's credits at Talk:Series 8 (Doctor Who).  Digifiend  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  Logos  CLG  DW  12:09, 19/8/2014 
At this point, we're so close to actual transmission that it makes little sense not to wait to see the credits as transmitted. This, after all, is the admonishment of T:CREW. I wouldn't even bother with detailed, per-episode maintenance of the series 8 page, but instead focus on the episode pages themselves as those eps are transmitted.
czechout<staff />    15:24: Tue 19 Aug 2014

Danny Pink

I tried to create a page for Danny Pink, as he has now been seen in a broadcast episode, but it says that the page is still locked, and it was you who locked it. Any chance it can now be unlocked? Geek Mythology 12:08, August 31, 2014 (UTC)

Video request

Hey, SOTO, do you mind uploading [this video] for the page The Time of the Doctor (TV story)? I put it on the video recommendations page a couple months ago but it was overlooked. Thanks. --TARDIS2468 11:32, December 27, 2014 (UTC)

Hi I was wondering if I could ask about the standard preloads it looks like a great tool and I have a Wikia but I am not sure how I could added. I realise this isn't a Tardis Wikia matter but if you can assist me. I would be most grateful. Thanks Kelvin 101

Home media/video

How is the creation of home media/video pages for the televised stories project going? ----Ebyabe (talk) 17:58, April 18, 2015 (UTC)

Bot edits

Hi! I just wanted to let you know that I am undoing some of your bot work. Specifically, I am correcting the grammar of your edits on the "date (releases)" pages. Leaving off the word "the" in front of the publications/magazines names is poor grammar. Just try saying some of these sentences to yourself out loud and you'll realize how odd they sound.

I know that CzechOut spent a lot of time giving you instructions on these pages, and that he specifically told you to keep the items short, but he was referring to the amount of information you were to provide, not the grammar. In fact, I've found two examples where he specifically places the word "the" in front of the phrase "TV comic". You can find the examples on User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside/Archive 3#Dates, dated Jun 23, 2013, and Thread:121256, dated Feb 22, 2013.

Also, I have to say it would have been nice if you had let me know that you were using your bot to undo the 365 pages that I had fixed a few months previously. Didn't you even wonder why I was making those particular edits? Thanks. Shambala108 01:19, May 13, 2015 (UTC)

Covers

Hi! On looking over Special:Wantedcategories, I noticed that all but 100 of the 365 wanted categories are of the format "(episode name) (medium) covers". Do you have plans for these uncreated categories? It's been over a year for most of them, and the categories should either be deleted or created, since there are so many images that have these non-existent categories. Thanks. Shambala108 02:14, September 27, 2015 (UTC)

DWU Forum Invite

Hey SOTO! I wanted to stop by and invite you to be a part of Thread:180396, where we're currently discussing if the DWU prefix does or does not well-represent our invalid policy. We've got some good input, but barely anything from admins. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 19:37, October 8, 2015 (UTC)

If you have time, is there any chance that you could stop by Thread:176459? As you asked, I have delivered a someone more clear layout of the Doctor Who levels and how the game play works, and the discussion with if it is valid or not is again open, but traffic has died down on the page... OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 21:56, October 14, 2015 (UTC)

BBC Store image category

Thank you for recategorizing. Your robot certainly beats my manual labor. Amorkuz 09:01, December 15, 2015 (UTC)

Informational matchmaking :)

Thanks for the tip on a possible information source and for reaching out to him.

On a partially related topic, there seems to be a weird discrepancy between the website vs. CD information for Big Finish as far as cast is concerned. For earlier releases, the full cast is on the website but not on the CD; for later releases the situation is exactly the opposite. It appears that no single source can have all the information. Amorkuz 08:36, December 17, 2015 (UTC)

To [[Category or to [[:Category

Oops! Should have spotted it. Thanks. Amorkuz 08:54, December 18, 2015 (UTC)

Checkers/Chequers

since my reply doesn't seem to be seen on the discusion board here is my answer

It's Checkers as in the script it says

STAHLBAUM A clever move from Count Wittenmeier, ladies and gentlemen. Another red checker taken.

Adric♥NyssaTalk? 12:21, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

Worse than that, I couldn't add this information to the discussion board either. Amorkuz 12:51, December 20, 2015 (UTC)
Oh dear. Can you post to other threads? If not, I'm sure it's just a temporary problem at Wikia that'll be over soon enough. File a Special:Contact/bug to let them know there's an issue and/or push them to get it fixed.
× SOTO (//) 12:55, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

The Black Hole

Looking at other articles in regeneration categories, they include not just the Doctor's regenerations but also regenerations of other Time Lords (e.g. "Hell Bent", which has the General's regeneration). And Pavo regenerates in "The Black Hole". JagoAndLitefoot 22:11, December 20, 2015 (UTC)

Off topic discussion on talk pages

An anon on Talk:Clara Oswald is pretty clearly breaking T:DISCUSS by ranting about how they dislike her. Seeing as I'm not an admin here, am I right in thinking it's up to one of them to remove it? Can't recall what the specific policy about removed/removing comments is, and I couldn't point to anything on T:DISCUSS beyond "don't talk about how good/bad an episode was". -- Tybort (talk page) 01:20, December 25, 2015 (UTC)

Renaming <Maitre d'>

Hi there.

Could you possibly take a look the page Maitre d' and the reason I left on its talk page for its renaming?

Thank you :) TheFartyDoctor Talk 00:04, December 26, 2015 (UTC)

I've Been a Fool Just a heads up, I think I've put name sorts on articles that don't require them. So sorry again for the inconvenience. DENCH-and-PALMER 21:30, December 26, 2015 (UTC)


Just Here to Say Thanks

Hi SOTO, thanks for the tips on the Real World tags and categories adding, now I know how to create proper articles. I've used the knowledge you gave me to create pages for Cast and Crew of BBV and Reeltime pages that haven't already got any. Thanks for the help, you're very kind. I hope to stay editing with the wikia and I wish you all the best

p.s. You're one of the kindest tardis data core users I've ever spoken too. =)

DENCH-and-PALMER 15:19, December 28, 2015 (UTC)

Question

Hi smaller on the outside, how do you remove redundant categories, thanks pal DENCH-and-PALMER 19:42, December 30, 2015 (UTC)

Redundant Categories

Hi! When making edits, please be aware of redundant categories. They create recursion, which makes things confusing for bots. That's why we try to avoid them as much as possible.MystExplorer 00:21, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Recursion

Maybe I'm misunderstanding the concept. I was wondering if you could set me straight. Are you saying recursion only applies to categories nested within one another and not to ones that are several categories removed from each other? MystExplorer 22:08, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

The categories I have just edited were only one category removed from each other. Therefore, they were redundant. MystExplorer 02:13, January 10, 2016 (UTC)


Master

82.69.105.93, this user deleted the whole of the Five Masters section in the Master, I undid his revision but I thought I'd give you the heads up in case he tries again. DENCH-and-PALMER 09:19, January 16, 2016 (UTC)

Hello! Sorry for asking but do you know who the creator of this wiki is? Thanks!

Truth or Consequences

I noticed you edited the page for the 'Truth or Consequences' short story and figured I'd ask - since the story really is incredibly short (to the point that a typed-up synopsis would be longer than the actual story), and since it's available to the public for free in multiple places, would it be okay to just type out the story for the 'plot' segments of the article? Or is there a rule against that? Cheers. KingOrokos 23:55, January 21, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, rightio. I'll wait and let you post what you've got, then type up the rest. Thanks! KingOrokos 00:06, January 22, 2016 (UTC)

Piscon pages

Hi 90.204.64.148 user is putting proposed deletion tags on the Piscon pages, however they are officially licensed by rights holder Nev Fountain. Just giving you the heads up DENCH-and-PALMER 22:46, January 24, 2016 (UTC)

2150

Hey, I initially posted this to CzechOut's talk page since he was the one who locked 2150, but he hasn't been around recently/hasn't gotten round to replying, so I figured I'd throw it your way.

I was taking a look at all the pages with red links to 2150 and noticed that one of them isn't actually Cushing-film-related - there's a reference to that year in this comic story. Only a minor one, but what with no such thing as notability and all, I was wondering if that was enough to justify creating a '2150' page. Sorry if you've been asked this before, just thought I'd check! KingOrokos 01:18, January 29, 2016 (UTC)

The problem is that the page is locked against editing/creation. Can you unlock it, or does it need to be CzechOut? KingOrokos 00:36, January 30, 2016 (UTC)

Rassilon's gauntlet page rename

Is it possible for the page Rassilon's gauntlet be renamed Gauntlet of Rassilon for harmony with the other artefacts of Rassilon? NickM98 10:37, January 31, 2016 (UTC)

cologne vs. Cologne

Hi! I've found a case that clearly requires a bot but also an experience in handling delicate cases. I hope you could help decide what to do with it.

There is currently a redirect from cologne to perfume. But it had to happen one day that the city of Cologne appeared in DWU. I found a (very brief and cursory) mention in AUDIO: Mary's Story. This creates a problem and questions:

  1. How to call the page for the city of Cologne: should it be dabbed given that the perfume meaning is just a redirect?
  2. Should the redirect be deleted completely (with changing all links, which is best done by a bot)? Or is it better to create a disambiguation page (even though there are even less than two pages: one page and one redirect).

These seem like problems above my pay grade. At the moment in the reference section of Mary's Story I coded the link as Cologne (city) to avoid an incorrect link for the time being. But this is not because I consider this to be the best solution. Amorkuz 00:46, February 12, 2016 (UTC)

There is a confirmation that Cologne is in Germany in Loups-Garoux, so it can be used.
As for Cologne being taken, it is a redirect only. Are redirects of equal value with actual pages?
Wait a moment. The situation is actually worse than I originally reported. The confusion, which I predicted would happen, has already happened. On the pages Loups-Garoux and 28 October, the city is coded as Cologne (city), which at least is not incorrect (leads to a non-existent page). On the page 1589, it is coded as Cologne, Germany (leads to another non-existent page). All three mentions originate from the same source. But the rendition of the same mention on the page Germany uses Cologne and erroneously leads right into the perfume page.
As a novice editor myself, I can perfectly understand someone who starts typing Cologne in double brackets, sees the blue link and trusts it to be the right one. On the other hand, it appears that the links cologne to the perfume are also quite rare: I found only one, on the page Linda (Everything Changes), and another page The Doctor (Battlefield) mentions the word but does not provide a link. So this redirect so far works for exactly one link, to the best of my understanding.
It appears that cologne is a rarely used variant of perfume which hardly warrants a redirect interfering with a city. Perhaps, it would make sense to treat it the same way as hot chocolate is treated on the page Gingerbread, that is by putting an explicit redirect as in cologne. Amorkuz 01:29, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

Legacy Inclusion Debate

2 years ago you labelled Legacy (video game) invalid. This inclusion debate could use your opinion the matter of making it valid again. I hope you can reconsider. The Champion of Time 17:22, March 10, 2016 (UTC)

Mr Song

I hope I might be able to interest you in a sufficiently non-trivial case of what should be the correct name for the page Mr Song. The current name is taken from the cast of The Diary of River Song and is clearly wrong (if only because of "Mr" alone). But the issue is more interesting... Oh, I was going to list all the relevant facts, but... spoilers (I don't know if you've listened to it already). The discussion is on the talk page. I am hesitant to start a general Panopticon thread because these tend to go on forever and we are not supposed to change anything until they're closed. Plus this is a sufficiently local issue affecting only two stories. I'd be very happy if you could lend your expertise on this topic. Amorkuz 22:33, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

Categories

I think that some of your categories, like Race or Difference are examples of overcategorisation. I've explained it furthermore on the talk page. RoseTenthFan 13:44, April 26, 2016 (UTC)