User talk:SOTO/Archive 6

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Playing field and Lowe

I thought so too, but it's hopeless to seek a confirmation. The only detail is that it's "distant" and visible from the window of Quill's class. But how many playing fields can one school have?

Another matter: I put Lowe for rename, but there is also Lowe (clone) of him. Amorkuz ☎ 18:53, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

I did Kindle search on "B3" in all three novels. It is never mentioned.

About the age, thanks for the heads up: I just assumed the distinction is between shows/groups. I'll pay attention now. Do you by any chance know which year they are? I somehow could not find this (I did not search for long as I didn't think it important). Knowing the defenders' year would help because some students, like Danielle Westby are introduced by a year. Amorkuz ☎ 19:42, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Bunghole is used once by Tanya in the 2nd novel. However, the word Rift has been used multiple times (I can count if it's important). So I've been thinking that the proper name might be Coal Hill Space-Time Rift, by analogy with Cardiff Space-Time Rift. Amorkuz ☎ 20:53, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

So I checked more carefully. Apparently, it is used exclusively in the second novel (10 times), so it might be a writer's thing. But then again, it might be a function of narrative. I haven't read the third novel (yet), but in the first they don't get a lot of time to sit around and think about the Rift. Amorkuz ☎ 21:14, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Hello

Hi pal, what to the Eighth Doctor page from Alixion? He appeared in a short DWM 1 page comic, like Doctor Who and the Last Stand, called What If? (comic story) in DWM 255 if he didn't appear in anything else. Best wishes. Denchen ☎ 21:37, November 1, 2016 (UTC)

Quirke

Any idea what happened to the page on the BBC Choice and it's Doctor? Best wishes. Denchen ☎ 21:48, November 2, 2016 (UTC)

Joyriders category

I thought about it myself but was hesitant to create a new category without a second opinion. Here's my feeling about it: it shouldn't be everyone who used the machine. I think it should include people who used it to fulfil their dark desires. At least, the name "Joyriders" can only support this usage and needs to be changed otherwise. The two individuals I want to exclude are 1) the alien pilot, who was doing his job and trying to save his ship and crew and 2) Ram Singh who used the machine to save his friends and defeat Fletcher. (By the way, after you mentioned that you did not read the novels yet, I kept minding to apologise for spoiling the first for you, perhaps, completely. However, I personally liked the second one more.) Amorkuz ☎ 22:33, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

Done and will be populated by new pages. Amorkuz ☎ 00:35, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Chatting thread

A thread was started yesterday, completely not about editing, which, by T:NOT BOARD, should be closed. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 12:23, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Infobox for real world companies

Hey, is there already an infobox for this? It would be used on pages such as LEGO, BBC One, BBC Worldwide, Big Finish Productions, et al., and could have parameters such as:

founding date
related DWU products (TV shows, documentaries, LEGO sets, etc)
closure date (for companies such as AudioGO)
videos (for advertises of the company uploded on the wiki, and stuff like that) (maybe 2 or 3 parameters for this)

Thanks. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 21:22, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, it's kinda of one of my things. I hate seeing pages without infoboxes. They seem sort of incomplete to me. I find infoboxes such a quick way to gather information on them. Anyway, thanks for making it. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 21:32, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you so much. One last request though: would it be possible to add it to the Standard preloads? It really is a time-saver for adding infoboxes. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 22:36, November 9, 2016 (UTC)

Class all over the world

I'm afraid I don't have good news for you. My travels all over the world, past and present, have left me with an assortment of accounts in various countries. I got my Class novels from the German Amazon Kindle store. There they were available on the same day as in the UK. I don't know if you can order a paper copy to be delivered to Canada. Also I am puzzled why they wouldn't sell it in Canada where the series already airs. After all, the Canadian Amazon store is separate from the US one. And there I was hoping if I start editing The Stone House, it will not create major real-world spoilers for you. I still can't do it for at least a week though due to the lack of time. Amorkuz ☎ 06:53, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Hey SOTO, I've found copies of the Class books on AbeBooks.com which I consider to have reasonable prices (including shipping to Canada). If you're interested here are links to The Stone House, Joyride, & What She Does Next Will Astound You. CoT ? 05:16, December 3, 2016 (UTC)

Doctor actors

Hello my good pal, can I create a category "Invalid individuals" for people who played the Doctor" for the Five(ish) Doctor actors, Who is Tom Baker Doctor actors and mentions as well as Tonight's the Night David Tennant. Yeah, it's me "Denchen"... I couldn't believe it either. ☎ 12:12, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Invalid

Hello the invalid list was complete, with all the invalid stories that are officially licensed, the only thing that wasn't complete was the game section but I was going to add it.

Is there any chance of restoring the page, I thought it'd help new users determine the invalidity of sources straight off and it'd help old users as a reminder. I really do hope you consider restoration, I can assure you it was complete. At the end of the day, it's up to you and the admins. Thanks for your time, best wishes. Yeah, it's me "Denchen"... I couldn't believe it either. ☎ 16:36, November 13, 2016 (UTC)

Class

The new Class story appeared at atleast nine o clock today. Yeah, it's me "Denchen"... I couldn't believe it either. ☎ 09:24, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Class B3

Why has the Speedy rename been changed to a simple rename? Is there an in-universe occasion where it is called B3? Because if not, it really needs to be changed to B03, as can be seen on Detained (TV story). OncomingStorm12th ☎ 19:54, November 19, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Invalid

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/User:DENCH-and-PALMER/Sandbox3 Here is my idea, I also believe that the parodies and pastiches section should be abolished as most invalid stories are for that reason and some may be both leaving it to be redundant. Yeah, it's me "Denchen"... I couldn't believe it either. ☎ 17:52, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Vandalism

User 210.55.186.163 has just vanadalised the Dalek Thay page. Yeah, it's me "Denchen"... I couldn't believe it either. ☎ 21:11, November 20, 2016 (UTC)

Class spoiler

On the topic of editing "Detained", I understood it was not a breach of the spoiler policy to mention the name of the following episode, though it has not yet aired, specifically because the name of the episode has already been released. The name of the episode is *also* on the "Series 1 (Class)" page, so I thus assumed it was OK to mention it. Thanks.– The preceding unsigned comment was added by TMarshall33 (talk • contribs) .

Got you. Thanks very much for the info, and my apologies!

You're a good pal

Dear SOTO,

I'm just here to say an honest thank you. 😊

You're one of the nicest admins and users in general. When I started here, I was unsure of what to do and got upset when people undid my work.

But you were really nice and told me what to do. You are a genuinely really nice and kind person. You've stuck up for me and helped me in places.

I just wanted you to know you're really kind and you helped me when I was in a dark place. You should be proud of yourself, you've helped an autistic person develop a set of skills and something I now love doing and enjoy.

And incase I never get to say it again - Thank you pal.

P.S. Thanks for helping me with the pages I create, I really do appreciate. Thanks SOTO. 😊 - Denchen: Lord of Invalidness ☎ 20:07, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

thanks

One of those days I will ask. I promise. Amorkuz ☎ 00:33, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

Video policy

I know that Tardis:Video policy has a warning that users can't upload videos anymore, but wouldn't it be better to change the rest of the text as well? Many parts of it actually suggest that users upload videos, and the top warning can be easily ignored by users (I myself only noted that one exists now). OncomingStorm12th ☎ 19:37, November 25, 2016 (UTC)

or

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/File:The_Metaphysical_Engine,_or_What_Quill_Did_title_card_1.jpg Here you are my good sir. 😊 - Denchen: Lord of Invalidness ☎ 11:22, November 26, 2016 (UTC)

Miss Quill's arn

The removal might be because of another edit going on at the same time. I was editing the page too. I apologize for its removal. --DCLM ☎ 00:27, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Actually, I did look through the ongoing edit as I edited, and I think I added it all. Apparently that particular one I seemed to have missed. I apologize about that. About the categories... not sure that's me, but not entirely sure, though. Perhaps we should watch the edit histories on newly-created pages, as those seem to be the most affected. --DCLM ☎ 06:53, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

It could be, but I have no clue. All I know is that when I experience an edit conflict I look down what the change was and try to copy as much valuable information from that edit into my own. However, it could be that I missed the categories. --DCLM ☎ 11:42, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

Specification

When you said no specifying dimensions, were you referring to my image I added to the Armitage page? If so, I promise hand on heart that I didn't specify as I've been told not to, best wishes - Denchen: Lord of Invalidness ☎ 22:14, November 28, 2016 (UTC)

3 part Moffat

Two things SOTO my good man. A) Thanks to your help, I've just created my first page entirely in source. B) In the Series 9 DVD feature Writing Who: Episode 10. When discussing Series 9 and Sarah Dollard, Steven Moffat said that her story is the start of a three parter. If Moffat says it, then this should be reconsidered.

Thanks for your time pal 😊. - Denchen: Lord of Invalidness ☎ 21:23, November 30, 2016 (UTC)

David Banks Doctor

Thanks for helping me out SOTO. I'm sure S108 had good reasons for reverting my edit but I'm sure I was doing the right thing. What do you think in the matter? - Denchen: Lord of Invalidness ☎ 21:48, December 1, 2016 (UTC)

Just a Heads Up on a Spoiler

Hello pal, you know how sometimes you edit the latest Class story page - before you've seen the episode. Just a heads up, I've watched it on IPlayer already and there will be some major plot spoilers if you edit before watching. And a brilliant spoilers if I might add. Though seriously, you'll probably have it ruined if you edit it on the core first. Best Wishes. -- Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid ☎ 09:59, December 3, 2016 (UTC)

Navbox

I've been looking into a navbox that can be added to the bottom of invalid on screen stories.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/User:DENCH-and-PALMER/Sandbox:_Invalid_stories

So I created one, I thought I'd come to the expert (you) to see what he thinks.

Could this be something we use... and it's complete?

Best wishes. -- Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid ☎ 22:27, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Happy to help

Happy to help pal. And it was indeed a magnificent episode - certainly the highlight of the series. -- Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid ☎ 22:49, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

And sorry that you had the Angels spoiled. -- Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid ☎ 22:55, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Animated versions Years

The animated versions have a year of creation, can we at least add that into the correct category?

We can't get around the fact the animated version of The Power of the Daleks was released in 2016. - How shall this be handled?

Anyways thank for your time pal, best wishes. -- Denchen: Lord of all that is invalid ☎ 22:38, December 5, 2016 (UTC)

Clockworks

I also though of Clockworks being strangely plural, but a quick snooping around showed that it does not seem to be used in singular, ever. A message from User:Revanvolatrelundar states this definitively on Talk:Clockworks. Amorkuz ☎ 23:19, December 11, 2016 (UTC)

Advert infobox

It has come to my attention that the infoboxes on advert pages have been removed. Which is probably because infobox story was being used. However I propose to you that an infobox advertisement is created. That way pages like Prime Computer, BT. Walls' sky ray and superannuation can have an housey infobox. Thanks for your time, best wishes. - Sir DENCH-and-PALMER ☎ 09:40, December 14, 2016 (UTC)

Speedy rename

Hi SOTO, hate to bother you, but could you perhaps rename Evans (The Web of Fear) to Gwynfor Evans? CoT ? 19:53, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

I'm not finding any "George Albert" in The Forgotten Son. It would seem that George Albert comes from Downtime. My gut says to name the page "Albert Arnold" as that is the name which he obviously prefers going by; Downtime doesn't seem to contradict that as a possibility. 20:33, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

Seven Keys to Doomsday discussion

Could you close the Inclusion debate on the audio adaptation of Seven Keys to Doomsday? --Pluto2 (talk) 06:18, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Clockwork award and Wyse

Thanks for pointing out. :)

Not to waste a post, could you please help merge the pages Wyse and Pooter onto Shade Vassily? I will then deal with the content. It's just two aliases of the same person, so individual pages are not warranted but redirects are reasonable. (If it's safe for me to just turn the two pages into redirects without an admin's intervention, just let me know.) Thanks in advance. Amorkuz ☎ 09:41, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you. That's exactly what I needed. I'll fix the joint now. Amorkuz ☎ 20:08, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Vince Cosmos

You said in Thread:192298 that Vince Cosmos: Glam Rock Detective seems like it should be a valid source to you. Nobody's brought up any objections in the intervening months. Could you close the thread please? Fwhiffahder ☎ 16:15, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

Philip Craggs

Philip Craggs is credited like that for The Casebook of the Manleigh Halt Irregulars. I didn't know where to indicate that.– The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fwhiffahder (talk • contribs) .

another Manleigh Halt Irregulars story

I've just discovered that Obverse published another Manleigh Halt Irregulars story in another anthology, and technically (I think) the previous decision only covers the one anthology. Can you look at Thread:206804? Thanks, Fwhiffahder ☎ 22:37, December 18, 2016 (UTC)

Dave

Yep, there is a British channel called Dave. It's part of the UKTV selection which includes W and Gold. It is also the channel that makes new Red Dwarf since 2009. (Which you'll love if you haven't seen it). - Sir DENCH-and-PALMER ☎ 21:31, December 21, 2016 (UTC)

VOR variables on infoboxes

Well, to be completly honest, I was having similar thoughs, but had not come up with something pratical. Also being honest, I wasn't even aware this parameter existed for {{Infobox Story}}, but it is a great ideia, because VOR (since it is a Big Finish magazine itself) and DWM are a very pratical place to retrieve behind-the-scenes information. In my opinion, this should for sure be added to {{Infobox Merchandise}}, and, maybe, one day both DWM and VOR could be added to {{Infobox Series}} as well.

Only a small PS: I don't know if it was a confusion, but the pages which get {{Infobox Merchandise}} are the audio series ones, not the anthologies.

Happy Hollidays and a great New Year to you. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 02:15, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

The Big Finish Podcast

Look, I haven't really heard any of these, so I don't know how much they talk about the releases themselves. My general thoughs are:

a) If they discuss cast/crew members of the stories and anthologies released, this seems a potential good place to find uncredited actors.

b) Concerning infoboxes: would any already existing infobox be suited for this, or would a new one need to be created?

c) I also must say that I won't (probably) be able to help much on filling old podcasts, but, if this idea comes to reality, I can start listening the new ones, to help.

Overall, I think this is not a bad idea. Podcasts can be as much a good source for information as traditional magazines. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 02:35, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

Look, if a podcast give even half the information you could retrieve from The Weakest Link: Doctor Who Special (which is very likely), I'd say these would be very helpfull pages.

A small note/curiosity that I think I read about one of the podcasts, but would need to search before adding to pages: Apparently, even though they already work with Neve McIntosh, Big Finish isn't allowed to use Vastra on their stories. It seems that they aren't allowed to use Jenny Flint as well. For some reason, it appears the only character from the Paternoster Gang BBC allowed them to use was Strax. (which I think would be a great "behind the scenes" information for both Paternoster Gang and The Haunting (audio story) if I could find the source for it).

Every time I think about it, I am more and more in favour of making pages for these podcasts. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 16:42, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

Me again

Can you take a look at Thread:207278? Thanks, Fwhiffahder ☎ 15:10, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

Rename

Would you as a pal be able to delete Blackpool Exhibition (TV story) because it's a duplicate and make Merry Christmas from the BBC BBC1 Christmas Message?

Also as a pal, would you be able to add the (TV story) dab name to Search Out Space, The Corridor Sketch, The Kidnappers, The Web of Caves and The Pitch of Fear and leave the original titles as redirects.

Thanks very much pal. 😊😊

P.S. If you don't have the time right now then no rush but it is making the wiki look unorganised. Best wishes. - Sir DENCH-and-PALMER ☎ 22:58, December 22, 2016 (UTC)

It appears that the hypercubes aren't working, so I'll shove a message in the edit summary so you'll see it.

Exhibition has been dealt with pal.

Though none of the others have, would you'll be able to add a dab term to the aforementioned stories? Also I'd love you forever if you could change National Television Awards sketch 2011 to National Television Awards special (TV story) - to suit naming conventions. Thanks for your time pal. DENCH-and-PALMER ☎ 15:31, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

Alexander Hamilton

"The Long Con" is a multi-Doctor story, with the Tenth, Eleventh and Twelfth Doctor, but I don't have a copy, so I didn't specify which Doctor(s) actually met Alexander Hamilton on his page (only that the Doctor met him in that story). As for the mention in "The Impossible Astronaut", the Doctor did not say that they fancied him in that incarnation. Unless you have a copy of "The Long Con" and can confirm the incarnations that met him, it's best to remove the categories for incarnations of the Doctor that did. JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 04:26, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Category request

I've been thinking and I've had a wonderful idea for a category. "Stories by writer " - As long as they've written more than 3 stories in any medium then this could work. It'd help us easily access which writer wrote what and we could have all the writers DW "TV", "comic", "novel" and "audio" works in one place. Just a thought, please let me know what you think. - Sir DENCH-and-PALMER ☎ 10:23, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Your thoughts

I don't know if this is how one goes about it but, what are your thoughts on my nominating User:OncomingStorm12th. See link.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Tardis:User_rights_nominations - Sir DENCH-and-PALMER ☎ 22:26, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Page moves

Hey SOTO, I usually don't request these, but could you move the following pages (all links already moved):

Series 1 (Jago & Litefoot)

Series 11 (Jago & Litefoot)

Series Three (Jago & Litefoot)

Series Two (Jago & Litefoot)

The Diary of River Song Series One (audio anthology)

The Diary of River Song Series Two (audio anthology)

Charlotte Pollard Series One (audio anthology)

The reason I'm asking is because that's how Big Finish usually refer to them on the "News" section, and because, even though they also use them without the ":" the names make much more sense with them, and are how they're mostly used. (Not sure if a redirect should be kept to the version of the name wihtout the colon, though). Thank you, and happy hollidays OncomingStorm12th ☎ 23:43, December 28, 2016 (UTC)

"Summary" on comic pages

If the "summary" on comic pages should be "Publisher's summary" in the cases where it is taken directly form the comics, perhaps you'll need to run a bot through all (comic story) pages. If I'm not wrong, all (or, at least, most) of them have the Publisher's summary", but the sections are simply called "Summary". OncomingStorm12th ☎ 01:32, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

Actually, I may have exaggerated myself. From what I can recall, I'd say all/most Titan comics have Publisher's summaries. Won't give a word on IDW's comics, and comics from other sources, because I'm not sure at all about them. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 01:45, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

We need to get a room for this discussion. ~~Yes, the summaries are part of the issue.~~ (Maybe they are not present in the rare issues that are collections of stories, like the Free Comic Book Day issues. I know seven stories like that. Can make a list if need be. Amorkuz ☎ 07:56, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

And I meant Titan comics, of course. Amorkuz ☎ 07:57, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

Was wrong, mixed them with "Prevoiously". Should stop editing in a Zugzwang. Amorkuz ☎ 08:09, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

I forgot to give the correct answer. The summaries are present both on the Titan Comics webpage and on the Comixology webpage, which is the official and exclusive (I think) digital distributor. On the other hand, the inside of the comic contains a "Previously..." section, which is not identical to the summary and is currently not covered by the Wikia, as much as I can tell. The issue I've taken a close look at most recently, Issue #1 of the Eleventh Doctor, actually mentions Amy's and Rory's honeymoon in the "Previously..." section, but not in the summary. I know that timelines are not completely allowed, but still it matters to me when in the Doctor's life this is happening. The "Previously..." section seems to tie in the whole run of the series not only to the Christmas special after The Big Bang but, seemingly, to the previous comic book stories from other sources (I do not know those myself, so put a Facts tag for others to add them). Amorkuz ☎ 10:32, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Just noticed another thing: in the Comixology app, if one pulls the first page of the issue to the right, then the summary appears. Still, it is not within the issue. Amorkuz ☎ 16:11, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

plagiarism by anonymous user(s)

Hi! This issue has bothered me for some time now. I contacted another admin about it, but was not persuasive enough. There is (are) anonymous user(s) who keep adding trivia to the classical Doctor Who TV story pages. Sometimes, these are taken verbatim from imdb, which I do not believe is considered a valid source. The last change by IP address 92.6.171.132 to The Tenth Planet is a very close quote from [1]: take, for instance, "(albeit all rather similar)" or "an accessory considered too costly to implement". Needless to say, the source is not stated, let alone checked for validity.

I don't feel I have authority to tell this/these user(s) what is and is not allowed. And by now a serious clean up is needed to dozens of stories. I thought I would try again to alert powers that be of a potentially bad situation. Amorkuz ☎ 12:31, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

The first edit I've noticed was to An Unearthly Child on August 28. Let try to link to it directly. Amorkuz ☎ 15:37, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

In principle, I'd be happy to help clean it up (if no better way exists, I could try to compile a list of IPs you mentioned). At least at first, there was a clear pattern: they were going from first serial up, systematically, typically using the word "trivia" in the edit summary for the first edit. However, there are cases of several consecutive edits for the same page, some with empty edit summaries. Lately, I have seen fewer of these edits (I'm only signed up for updates for all stories till The Time Warrior), and they stopped being so systematic. Amorkuz ☎ 22:55, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

So it seems that they have lost some steam and only managed to cover the Hartnell era. The edits were in chronological progression, covering every First Doctor story. The last one was yesterday, so hopefully, that is it. Unfortunately, after they started making week-long breaks between edits, they IP changed almost every time they edit. Thus, the list of IP addresses is long:

79.74.130.104
92.6.168.243
92.6.165.186
92.6.165.173
79.74.146.8
79.74.152.245
79.74.143.140
79.74.133.222
78.147.139.77
78.147.134.119
92.6.172.108
78.147.129.183
78.147.136.142
78.147.138.11
78.147.133.54
79.74.154.199
78.147.128.174
78.147.137.40
79.74.144.57
92.6.172.93
92.6.171.132

Hope this helps and let me know if I can help further. Amorkuz ☎ 20:59, December 30, 2016 (UTC)

Another one, 92.6.168.72. S/He went into the Second Doctor area. Amorkuz ☎ 17:51, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

More: 78.147.129.86. I'm at least reverting their Second Doctor edits. Amorkuz ☎ 12:48, January 3, 2017 (UTC)

Oh god, sorry

I've realised now.

I'm a human fool.

I can't tell you how sorry I am mate.

You clearly have a things to do and me pestering you every few minutes is probably annoying you deeply.

I'm sorry. The hypercubes aren't broken. My common sense is.

I can only wish you the best, and apologise for inconvenience. DENCH-and-PALMER 22:36, December 29, 2016 (UTC)

Faction Paradox

Can you move the debate back to "Inclusion debates" and reopen it? The outcry on CzechOut's talk page is massive, and this proves, beyond reasonable doubt, that authorial intent is that FP is part of the DWU. The technical argument is in no way grounds for exclusion, to the point one admin has called CzechOut out for this. --Pluto2 (talk) 02:31, December 30, 2016 (UTC)

Visual editor destroying pages

I've noticed many users are having their revisions undone as their edits result in half the page being destroyed or the categories being removed.

Noticably with pages like the Tenth Doctor, Twelfth Doctor, Clara Oswald, Rose Tyler, River Song and The Return of Doctor Mysterio (TV story).

All these have been done in visual editor, any chance of you looking into it?

Denchen 23:44, December 30, 2016 (UTC)

VE problem

It happened to me, I went in source mode on an I pad, I was typing and I went to save my edit and then when it appeared, it was blank so I had to undo my revision. Denchen ☎ 10:31, January 1, 2017 (UTC)

Usarmyfan

Hey SOTO, user Usarmyfan has posted many images and many threads violating many policies. I have messaged him on the matter, but his response to that was to violate more.

Any chance you could delete the aforementioned uploads by that user. Best wishes. Denchen ☎ 21:09, January 1, 2017 (UTC)

Hector disambig page

I was gonna create it, but it's taken by Hector. I understand, he's a hero in the real world and all. But is he a primary topic? I'd like to make the disambig page and don't really care one way or the other. So I'm deferring to your authority. Tell me if Hector should be moved or if I should make a disambig page with a dab term. Thanks in advance. Amorkuz ☎ 09:42, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

Not contesting. Never planned to. And now I understand the reasoning. Amorkuz ☎ 17:54, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

Vandal

A user has just vandalised the Controller (Bad Wolf) page changing it to the Fat C*ntroller. He has also created the page Stammer which is spam. The IP address is 90.206.186.179. Since your an admin I thought you could do something about it? Thanks. --31.51.141.119^{talk to me} 16:39, January 2, 2017 (UTC)

Revolutions of Terror, subway conductor

Since you're looking at the story anyway, I'd appreciate help/advice. I made a mess with the Subway conductor (Revolutions of Terror). All through the incident, he was not named in any way, so I created the page with the best guess at the description. Turns out, Gabby postfactum called him "Guard of the train". Any New Yorker will tell you that that ~~#@%!~~ makes no sense. There are no guards in New York subways. But there you have it. So I put the rename tag, moved the links. But until it is actually moved, I'm afraid I'll mistype another link, creating even more mess. The new suggested name is taken verbatim from the comic. If you think it could be improved, I wouldn't mind as... it makes no sense!Amorkuz ☎ 22:52, January 7, 2017 (UTC)

I guess, "Guard of the train" is my protest against the meaningless title when there is one better suited for the role. (Yes, I know real world doesn't matter.) To my ear "Train guard" sounds better. I mean "the train" in the name? Which train? I just don't understand why Gabby didn't call him "train guard" and used this awkward phrase the "guard of the train". And since I don't understand this and can make no sense of it, the safest thing for me is to take it as is. The exact piece of dialogue (if it helps): "One second we were being chased by a - a monster, the next it was the guard of the train!" Amorkuz ☎

UPD: Okay, the Doctor later calls him "Train Guard". So I guess that's a better name. I can't keep all three issues in memory, and they certainly spread these references. Amorkuz ☎ 23:26, January 7, 2017 (UTC)

I definitely like "train guard" more. At least, it sounds human. Amorkuz ☎ 07:21, January 8, 2017 (UTC)

VOR formating changes

Hey SOTO. Hope you're having a good 2017 so far. I'm here to propose a new format for VOR issues. Basically, what I'm proposing is: instead of simply making a list of contents, we give each article a sub-section. This way, for example, if we're writing on The Sixth Doctor: The Last Adventure with information retrieved from issue 79, we can directly link to VOR 79.

Another "improvement" of this newly-proposed stlye is: sometimes, a single article is talking about multiple stories in a series. So, suppose there was an article talking about the first three stories in the first series of Fourth Doctor Adventures.

Currently, we would link to them as:

"Article tile" (Fourth Doctor Adventures: Destination: Nerva, The Renaissance Man, The Wrath of the Iceni)

With the new fortmat, however, we could link it as:

=== Article title ===

So, overall, two things need to be settled:

a) Is this usefull/necessary?

b) for the article titles, would we use three or four "="? The most logical option would be to use "===", because we only have one sub-section before it. However, if the article title is too big, it would take too much space (while "====" takes a lot less space). I left both options visible on the VOR 79 page.

What are your thoughts on this matter? OncomingStorm12th ☎ 01:32, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

Re: VOR Proposal

Well, my last post was long enough on it's own, so I'll add my response in this new section.

First of all, I really liked the changes you made to VOR 79. That's the general idea I had for the page, but left it "incomplete" so you could see what heading looked the best (glad we both agree h4 looks way better than h3).

As for "The Pertwee Era Made New!": well, I did not even pay attention to that when crating the page (although, I must say, I don't think it's very noteworthy, as it looks like it is just a sub-article withing the "The Third Degree").

As for the external links: wow, I really forgot to do that on all the articles created so far! Small request/question: would it be possible to fix that with a bot, or is manual work needed? If the latter, I'll make sure to go back and add them. The template names I like the best are {{VORx}} and {{VOR x}}, although I think {{VOR x}} is the best option, since the pages themselves are named VOR x.

One last thing: do you think we should cover "Vortex mail", "Letters" and "Twitter team" at any degree? I understand why we wouldn't, but, on the other side, it'll be a bit weird to leave a sub-section of the page blank. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 15:01, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

Ah, also, could you please update {{Vortex}}? I tried to do it myself, but only managed to get a "95" in the midle of the "2017" row. I'm afraid I did not (yet) get the hang of this template. Thanks. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 15:05, January 9, 2017 (UTC)

I was starting to wonder wheter you had fogotten about this, actually :p

But it's fine. For the next days (hopefully, less than a week) I'll be without acess to my laptop, which means I'll only be able to edit through my phone. Thus, I'll refrain from making "major" edits (like this ones) and be editing grammar and smaller formatting errors only. As soon as I have my laptop back, however, if you've replied by then, I'll make the changes, if we get to a "final result". OncomingStorm12th ☎ 01:16, January 12, 2017 (UTC)

Leaving this message not as an attempt to hurry your response, but rather a heads-up that I won't, in fact be without acess to my laptop (aka: as soon as we settle a final decison on VOR issues, I'm available to make the changes). Take your time. I'm sure you need it for now. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 20:24, January 12, 2017 (UTC)

I agree with you. (At least for now,) I see no way to cover Vortex mail consistently, but if I come across any important/relevant information, I'll add it with a small summary of the info given there. I'll now start making the changes to other VOR issues.

One thing though, currently, all articles with {{VOR x}} link to "Official Vortex 19 page at bigfinish.com", regardless of the issue number. I guess it's probably something on the coding of the template, but hopefully something simple to fix.

Also, I hope you're having the most (un)pleasent times watching "A Series of Unfortunate Events". Not dearly, Count Olaf. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 00:35, January 18, 2017 (UTC)

Cold Fusion

If I'm not mistaken, it's the audio adaptation that says the husband is the Doctor. --Pluto2 (talk) 00:59, January 12, 2017 (UTC)

Removing/Deleting posts

I want my posts in the Fact checking category of Doctor Who Discussions to be removed/deleted. Reason: need speculation (opinions and theories). Not facts.

[2] Rose's question of Doctor 9's Northern English accent

[3] Rose's frustration of the TARDIS Translation circuit

[4] David Tennant's accent

[5] Earth-like Gallifrey

[6] Rose not noticing that Mickey is plastic

[7] Black & White

[8] "Doctor, stop being childish."

[9] Regeneration - Changing sex/gender

[10] Regeneration: Subconscious

[11] Second Doctor errors

[12] 12th Doctor is the 13th incarnation?

[13] Peri's Death

[14] Doctor 9's reaction to Rose's changing history

[15] Something special about Christmas

Doctor 25 ☎ 18:30, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

Just a moment of your time

Hi SOTO, could you move Fifth Operational Corps to Home-Army Fifth Operational Corps and leave Fifth Operational Corps as a redirect? Sorry to use your talk page, but I'm linking to the page quite a bit and would rather not wait until whenever an admin looks through the rename category. CoT ? 06:16, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for that! I hope you're enjoying the new Series of Unfortunate Events as much as I am. CoT ? 06:34, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

Category for Pranavores

Hi, I am seeking advice. I think I found a good category for the type of species Pranavores are: Category:Incorporeal species. But I am still not sure how to process it. The problem is that it is not really one species but a type of species: each sapient species has their own Pranavores. The name is chosen by the Doctor. Only two species of Pranavores are mentioned, both native to Earth. Only one actually appears in the comic, the human variety. So it seems wrong to create one page for the type of species and another for the human Pranavores: the page is short as it is. But if it is a type of species, like Humanoid, what should the categories be? Can Category:Mutter's Spiral species be used because the page is also a page for the species native to Earth? Advice would be appreciated. Amorkuz ☎ 22:37, January 15, 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism attack on P&P

Hi, I'm not sure you're online now, but there seems to be an attack on P&P going on. Three usernames have vandalised her page today: User:Yeemaster, User:Fmaboi, and User:Chezit. It seems that she is currently offline, so an admin intervention might be in order. Amorkuz ☎ 15:29, January 18, 2017 (UTC)

Oh well, here we go again. Sadly, P&P's profile page has been vandalised again, this time by User:Ch33zt. Is there any way to protect a user's profile page? If so, it seems it's necessary (for now). OncomingStorm12th ☎ 21:07, January 19, 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism response

Thanks for a link to the policy: I didn't know the details. I strongly suspected this to be the case, of course, and will follow the policy next time. I tried to do it this time too, but lost patience when a second user (or second puppet of the same person) started vandalising. Simultaneously, I apologised to P&P on her talk page for interfering. Amorkuz ☎ 07:16, January 19, 2017 (UTC)

Speaking about contacting an admin in such cases, it's a good point that an admin may be online but not editing actively. However, this is not visible in the admin's activity. I would feel very weird knocking on every admin's door and asking them if they're there to please urgently deal with the situation. Ideally, it might be good to have a vandalism page similar to a speedy rename page, which is available to all admins so whoever is active can react. When I think about it some more, it cannot be populated via a template because the template would have to be put on the user's webpage = editing. But it can be edited manually. Amorkuz ☎ 01:34, January 20, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I guess you're right. I thought about it myself: who's gonna protect the page for protecting other pages. I'll trust the system more next time. Amorkuz ☎ 22:43, January 21, 2017 (UTC)

I'd also like to thank you for pointing me to the policy. I don't think I was aware of that, and will refrain from editing other users' pages in the future, regardless of the situation. I have also gone to P&P's talk page to apologize to her (better safe than sorry in these situations. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 15:10, January 19, 2017 (UTC)

Block request

I request an immediate block on User:Pluto2 for violations of multiple policies, including moving pages, closing forum threads, and repeated unexplained violations of T:BOUND regarding stories not yet declared valid. Amorkuz ☎ 15:18, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Erm, you're the one violating T:POINT. --Pluto2 (talk) 15:22, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Guys, it doesn't need to come to this. If someone's been editing/creating pages that are being discussed in the threads, then just realise that you're going against protocols. A block isn't necessary. The use of threads and talk pages are completely necessary in these cases. Make use of them. I suggest you both keep your hands off pages that are under discussion. It would be a huge loss us if one or both of you got banned at the request of the other. Just remember that highly productive conversation we had the other day. TheFartyDoctor ^Talk 15:26, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

I'm glad Pluto2 now wants to discuss things. I prefer doing it before undoing someone's edit. T:POINT applies when there are two points of view, none of which is accepted as policy on the Wiki. In this case, the current policy of the Wiki is that Gobbleknoll Hall (audio story) is invalid. Until the inclusion debate is concluded, and not by you but by an admin, it will remain the policy of the Wiki. And all the pages of the Wiki, until that moment, should comply with this current policy. I advise to read T:BOUND, carefully, especially this part existing rules apply to you even if you weren't a part of the discussion that created them. You can't just ignore a rule because you didn't realise a discussion was ongoing or because you weren't even a member of our community when the rule was created. Neither can you ignore a rule simply because you've opened up a discussion that might lead to changing that rule. And, yes, you moved a page again, after I posted on your page a link prohibiting you from doing it. So clearly, only an admin can call you to order. Amorkuz ☎ 15:29, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

A block would not be necessary if Pluto2 would stop engaging in an edit war with me, especially given that it was not her edits that were affected by my edits. I requested a block because I did not fancy spending the rest of today undoing her violations of T:BOUND. If she can sit on her hands until an admin tells her what she is allowed and not allowed to do (and tells me if I was wrong in enforcing the current validity policies), then surely a block is not necessary. Amorkuz ☎ 15:35, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

This seems like a huge and bizarre overreaction to a fairly simple back-and-forth over a few unexplained edits. As for the other cited rule violations: as far as I know, Pluto2 stopped moving pages as soon as she was made aware of the frankly hidden policy, and removing a thread that she herself started a month ago, since she believed it was redundant to another ... unless you're attributing malicious intent, I don't see anything particularly wrong with these actions. Everyone take a breath and calm down. NateBumber ☎ 16:41, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry to say: she moved a page today. Just check her contribution history. Amorkuz ☎ 16:43, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

I will look into all information when I get home.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 21:41, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Just to be clear what my final position is, I do not ask for a block anymore. As mentioned before, the request for the block was my last-ditch attempt to prevent an edit war and it worked. I should mention that, although I did cite relevant policy to Pluto2 regarding moving pages, no admin has confirmed that my (non-admin) interpretation of the policy was correct and applied in this case. Also thank you for your time and sorry to bring this unpleasant situation to your door. Amorkuz ☎ 21:49, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

Moving sandbox pages

Hello SOTO. I'd like to know if us, non-admins, are allowed to move our own sandboxes. While it seems logical we could, since it has our namespace on it, I'd rather not move a page without asking it before. Anyway, since the reason it was created was to facilitate changes to Faction Paradox (series), and this changes have been made, the sandbox is now pretty much useless. If you (an admin) need to move it, the new name would be "User:OncomingStorm12th/Sandbox 1". If an admin involvement is not required, I'll move it myself. Thanks for your time. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 23:48, January 25, 2017 (UTC)

LEGO separate pages

Hey. I know this might not seem too relevant now, specially with all those forums still being closed, but do you think it's ok to split LEGO into an in-universe page and an out-of-universe page? Generally, I myself would think it unnecessary, but as lego has now Doctor Who products, it seems very weird to link to an in-universe page when we're talking about the OOU company. Also, as the OOU page would require a dab term, what do you think would be a good one? Just (company) or something different? OncomingStorm12th ☎ 22:31, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

For me, the other way round seems a better option. Since The LEGO Group is the actual name of the company, that's probably the best name we could give it. If I'm not mistaken, {{TitleSort}} will make the page come up in the search even if the person simply types "Lego", so it'll be fine (also, I'll also add a {{You may}} pointing to the company on the top of LEGO, meaning the page will be very easy to find). As soon as you reply, (if you agree with calling the page "The LEGO Group"; if not, we can also discuss more) I'll get to make the page and adjustments on LEGO as well. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 23:38, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, as usual, I think I misread your response. If I read it correct now, you also propose to name it The LEGO Group, right? Than, Lego (real world) would be just a redirect. Is that it? (Sorry for the misreading; I seriously need to stop doing that this often) OncomingStorm12th ☎ 23:50, January 26, 2017 (UTC)

All right. I've now created The LEGO Group. However, I must admit I might have exceded myself while talking about the other franchises (personally, I really like LEGO, specially the video games). However, it's hard to write a detailed article on the Doctor Who side of LEGO, since we only have two products to go on about. I'd be truly happy if you could take your time to see if the page can be improved. Thank you. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 01:57, January 27, 2017 (UTC)

I made a Bhs as brief as I could, but, as a side note, I don't think a {{Main}} is really necessary in this case. We alread have a {{You may}} on the top of the article, which is not that large. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 01:50, January 28, 2017 (UTC)

Strip -> story

Hi, I would appreciate a bot help. If I understand this correctly, the American Titan releases are not comic strips. They are comic stories. It seems that many of them are called comic strips in the leads. Replacing "strip" with "story" seems like an ideal job for a bot. Could you please run yours on this, if I am right of course. Thank you in advance. Amorkuz ☎ 22:11, January 28, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I would say it does apply to Free Comic Book Day stories. Yes, they are shorter, encompassing 3-4 stories per issue instead of 1 story. But they still are longer than one page. Here are the paginations for stories: pp. 3-8, 9-14, 15-20, 3-8, 9-14, 15-20, 21-26. Seems like they were given exactly 6 pages per story. Plus it was my understanding that strips are originally published in a periodical that is not exclusively a comic book, like DWA or DWM. I tried to find the exact definition distinguishing the two, but failed. Amorkuz ☎ 07:13, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you once again. I'm happy that the request was bot-worthy both in content and in quantity. Amorkuz ☎ 16:40, January 29, 2017 (UTC)

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