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* [[User:Cousin Ettolrhc/Sandbox/Timeline - Eighth Doctor/MR|The Doctor's adventures with Charley Pollard in the Main Range]] may fit here, especially due to the fact that the way the Doctor disregards the [[Web of Time]] in these audios could be seen as a result of the [[Biodata virus]] he recieves in the ''What Happened on Dust'' segment (which happens to the [[Third Doctor]]) but which doesn't activate until now, or perhaps in ''Unnatural History''. <ref>https://www.tumblr.com/doctornolonger/185205914391/doctornolonger-doctornolonger-an-appendix-to?source=share</ref> | * [[User:Cousin Ettolrhc/Sandbox/Timeline - Eighth Doctor/MR|The Doctor's adventures with Charley Pollard in the Main Range]] may fit here, especially due to the fact that the way the Doctor disregards the [[Web of Time]] in these audios could be seen as a result of the [[Biodata virus]] he recieves in the ''What Happened on Dust'' segment (which happens to the [[Third Doctor]]) but which doesn't activate until now, or perhaps in ''Unnatural History''. <ref>https://www.tumblr.com/doctornolonger/185205914391/doctornolonger-doctornolonger-an-appendix-to?source=share</ref> | ||
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[Interference (novel)]]: Foreman's World | * [[PROSE]]: ''[[Interference (novel)]]: Foreman's World | ||
== Travels with [[Fitz Kreiner]] and no Sam Jones before [[The Ancestor Cell (novel)|The Ancestor Cell]](EDA 27-36)== | == Travels with [[Fitz Kreiner]] and no Sam Jones before [[The Ancestor Cell (novel)|The Ancestor Cell]] (EDA 27-36)== | ||
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Blue Angel (novel)|The Blue Angel]]'' | * [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Blue Angel (novel)|The Blue Angel]]'' | ||
* [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Taking of Planet 5 (novel)|The Taking of Planet 5]]'' - The Doctor enters [[War in Heaven|the War]] again, and [[Compassion]] is exposed to dozens of TARDISs | * [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Taking of Planet 5 (novel)|The Taking of Planet 5]]'' - The Doctor enters [[War in Heaven|the War]] again, and [[Compassion]] is exposed to dozens of TARDISs |
Revision as of 11:00, 9 April 2023
After the 1996 Doctor Who movie, BBC Books started publishing novels featuring the Eighth Doctor. These were unique in the sense that their continuity picked up immediately from the 1996 movie, unlike all other ranges then and since, with The Eight Doctors. Between that initial novel and the subsequent one, there was a gap in in-universe continuity, filled by User:Cousin_Ettolrhc/Sandbox/Timeline_-_Eighth_Doctor/Greenpeace gap.
- TECHNICAL NOTE
- PROSE: The Eight Doctors has been omitted from this list as it is already listed in [post-regeneration], but for context it is the first EDA
Travels with Sam Jones (EDA 2 - 26)
- PROSE: Vampire Science
- PROSE: The Bodysnatchers
- PROSE: Genocide
- PROSE: War of the Daleks
- PROSE: Alien Bodies
- This was the first source to ever feature Faction Paradox and had the Eighth Doctor crossover with the future War, which he would do a few more times later in this series.
- PROSE: Kursaal
- PROSE: Dead Time - a Short Trip where Sam is still a school girl, setting this before her four year separation from the Doctor which began in Longest Day.
Sam and the Doctor are separated
Reuinted with Sam
- Stacy and Ssard appear in this story, from the Radio Times comics
- PROSE: Vanderdeken's Children
- PROSE: The Scarlet Empress
- PROSE: The Janus Conjunction
- PROSE: Beltempest
- PROSE: The Face-Eater
Travels with Sam Jones and Fitz Kreiner
- Fitz Kriener joins Sam and the Doctor in the TARDIS
- PROSE: Femme Fatale - a Short Trip
- The events of The Scarlet Empress are mentioned as being "four months ago" and, although absent, Fitz is mentioned, setting this after The Taint, although its exact placement isn't clear as the "four months ago" quote isn't particulary useful as no strict chronology is in effect around these novels
- The Doctor detects a temporal anomly in San Francisco, leading directly into Unnatural History (although the segment with blonde Sam mentioned in Unnatural History is not shown, just before it)
- CONTINUITY
- The Doctor looses his shadow, meaning any story where he does not have it and an alternative explanation is not given are set between this and Interference, where he regains it (partially)
- The Doctor claims to be 1018 years old
Repeated exploits with the future War
- PROSE: Interference: What Happened On Earth
- There appears to be a gap between this section and the "Foreman's World" segment, which some stories may fit into
- PROSE: Toy Story - explicity set in this gap. Kode and Compassion are sleeping in the TARDIS whilst Lolita visits and talks to the TARDIS through the sleeping Compassion
- The Doctor's adventures with Charley Pollard in the Main Range may fit here, especially due to the fact that the way the Doctor disregards the Web of Time in these audios could be seen as a result of the Biodata virus he recieves in the What Happened on Dust segment (which happens to the Third Doctor) but which doesn't activate until now, or perhaps in Unnatural History. [1]
- PROSE: Interference (novel): Foreman's World
Travels with Fitz Kreiner and no Sam Jones before The Ancestor Cell (EDA 27-36)
- PROSE: The Blue Angel
- PROSE: The Taking of Planet 5 - The Doctor enters the War again, and Compassion is exposed to dozens of TARDISs
- PROSE: Frontier Worlds - Compassion begins turning into a humanoid TARDIS
- PROSE: Parallel 59
- CONTINUITY
- While the Doctor takes Compassion to Earth, Fitz remains on Skale with Fillipa Cian. After living on Skale for some time, the Doctor returns for Fitz. On their way to pick up Compassion, they visit "strange dimensions", "worlds at an angle to reality", and "dreamlike places." (PROSE: The Shadows of Avalon)
Travels without Fitz Kriener
- PROSE: Seven Deadly Sins - part of the Short Trips series
- The Doctor's eyes keep changing from blue to green, showing the biodata virus is getting worse, placing this soon after Interference. He also has no companions, making it fit into the "Interference gap" quite nicely
- Jonathan Blum places the Doctor's adventures with Charley Pollard in the Main Range during the time Fitz is on Skale with Fillipa, and the Doctor is traveling on his own for a while. (DWM 354: Come in, Number Eight)
Travels with only Fitz
- PROSE: Growing Higher - part of the Short Trips series. Set here as the Doctor and Fitz are alone, and so it is in the gap mentioned above, before The Shadows of Avalon
Travels with Fitz and Compassion
- PROSE: The Shadows of Avalon - the Doctor looses his TARDIS after it "collides between dimensional barriers", but Compassion evolves into a Type 102 humanoid TARDIS and the Doctor and Fitz travel in her.
- PROSE: The Fall of Yquatine
- PROSE: Coldheart
- PROSE: The Space Age
- PROSE: The Banquo Legacy
Ending the War
- PROSE: The Ancestor Cell - Following on from The Banquo Legacy by the Doctor mentioning a coat "he only just got" and a prelude to The Ancestor Cell in The Banquo Legacy
- CONTINUIY
- The Doctor ends the War on its first day, and so any story set in the Post-War universe must be set after this. He gains amnesia
- NOTE
- The Faction Paradox short story The Story So Far... recontexualises this as the Doctor "falling from the Warring Heaven" rather than ending it absolutely.
- PROSE: Now or Thereabouts, with the context of With All Awry by Blair Bidmead (author of Now or Thereabouts), shows the Eighth Doctor ("war veteran") fading away to be replaced with Christopher Eccleston's Ninth Doctor ("singing man"). This fate of the Eighth Doctor is discontinous with his regeneration into the War Doctor and his role as the one to end the Time War.
Post-War universe (EDA 37-72)
"Earth arc" (EDA 37-41)
The Doctor is trapped on Earth with amnesia, presuming he is human as he looks it, for around 200 years (IMPROVE ACCURACY), meaning that the Earth-time is a good indicator for chronology here. The TARDIS is in the proccess of regenerating.
- PROSE: The Burning (1894)
- PROSE: Evergreen (20th century)- part of the Short Trips series. The Eighth Doctor is still suffering from the amnesia he gained in The Ancestor Cell/The Burning
- PROSE: Casualties of War (1918)
- PROSE: Wolfsbane (1936) - explicity set between Casualties of War and The Turing Test. Crossover with the Fourth Doctor in the BBC Past Doctor Adventures range.
- PROSE: The Turing Test (1943-1945) - The Doctor starts to realize he is not human
- PROSE: Endgame (1951)
- PROSE: Mordieu (1950s) - part of the Short Trips series. Intended to be in the "Eath arc"
- PROSE: Father Time (1980s) - The Doctor raises his adopted daughter Miranda Dawkins, and the TARDIs's outer shell has fully regenerated.
Back in the TARDIS (EDA 42-50)
- PROSE: Escape Velocity - the TADIS has finished fully finished regenerating.
- CONTINUITY
- The TARDIS is a mixture of the classic "white room" and "victorian parlour" designs, with an octagonal console. Fitz Kreiner is reunited with the Doctor, and Anji Kapoor as joins the TARDIS. The Doctor's memories are still "a little hazy".
- PROSE: EarthWorld - set immediaely after Escape Velocity
- PROSE: Fear Itself - part of the BBC Past Doctor Adventures, published after the final EDA. Explicity set "a few weeks after" EarthWorld and leads directly into Vanishing Point.
- PROSE: Eater of Wasps
- PROSE: The Year of Intelligent Tigers
- PROSE: The Slow Empire
- PROSE: Dark Progeny
- PROSE: The City of the Dead
- PROSE: Grimm Reality
Lost his second heart (EDA 51-58)
- CONTINUITY
- During his wedding to Scarlette, the Doctor's 'second heart is removed by Sabbath Dei, allegedly to cure the Doctor of an illness caused by the heart's attempt to connect him to Gallifrey, which no longer ever existed. This sets any story where the Eighth Doctor does not have a second heart between The Adventuress of Henrietta Street and Camera Obscura, unless another placement overrides it.
- PROSE: Mad Dogs and Englishmen
- PROSE: Hope
- PROSE: Anachrophobia - set 2 days after Hope
- PROSE: Fallen Gods - a Telos Doctor Who novella where the Doctor claims to have only heart, setting this between The Adventuress of Henrietta Street and Camera Obscura.
- PROSE: Trading Futures - Fitz'z memory of events prior to The Burning is disappearing more severly.
- PROSE: The Book of the Still
- PROSE: The Crooked World
- PROSE: History 101
- PROSE: Notre Dame du Temps - part of the Short Trips series. The Doctor only has one heart, setting it in this arc, although its specific placement is arbitary to the best of User:Cousin Ettolrhc's knowledge.
Council of Eight arc (EDA 59-67)
- CONTINUITY
- The Doctor's second hand starts to regrow.
- PROSE: Time Zero - leads directly into The Infinity Race
- PROSE: The Infinity Race - leads directly into The Domino Effect
- PROSE: The Domino Effect - leads directly into Reckless Engineering
- PROSE: Reckless Engineering - leads directly into The Last Resort
- PROSE: Timeless - leads directly into Emotional Chemistry
- PROSE: Emotional Chemistry
- PROSE: Sometime Never... - see Council of Eight for more information.
Final adventures with Fitz Kreiner and Trix MacMillan (EDA 68-72)
- PROSE: Halflife
- PROSE: The Tomorrow Windows - the Doctor sees four possible ninth incarnations - the Shalka Doctor ("pale aristocrat"), Rowan Atkinson's Ninth Doctor from The Curse of Fatal Death, a figure in a velvet suit and eyeliner, and a man with curly hair and a lopsided smile.
- PROSE: The Sleep of Reason
- PROSE: The Deadstone Memorial
- PROSE: To the Slaughter
- PROSE: The Gallifrey Chronicles - the final EDA.
- During the events of The Ancestor Cell the Doctor compressed the entire Matrix into his mind, causing the amnesia he had since The Burning. This allows the Doctor to restore the Time Lords and Gallifrey to the universe, as seen in his future in The Tomorow Windows. This "restoration of Gallifrey" was never shown, but many fans use it as a reason to place the Big Finish Eighth Doctor Adventures after this, among other adventures.
- The events of The Ancestor Cell are greatly revised to make more sense.
After The Gallifrey Chronicles
- PROSE: We Can't Stop What's Coming - part of the The Target Storybook anthology. The Doctor is illustrated with his The Night of the Doctor outfit, placing this story in the "Eighth Doctor regenerates into the War Doctor" continuity, but he is with travelling with Fitz Kreiner and Trix MacMillan. Technically, this could place it at any point in the "Final adventures with Fitz and Trix" saga, but he is not described as wearing his Night of the Doctor outfit in any of those, so User:Cousin Ettolrhc think's this is the most logica. User talk:Cousin Ettolrhc if you think this is wrong.
One of the may possible placements for The Infinty Doctors is on a restored Gallifrey post-The Gallifrey Chronicles
- The Emperor is suggested to be the Eighth Doctor in his future in The Gallifrey Chronicles. The "New Gallifrey" spoke of in The Gallifrey Chronicles could be interpreted as The Needle and the Time Lords the Doctor ressurcted from the Matrix in his mind are the Needle People. The Emperor's life and the Infinity Doctor's lives also appear to be connected in some way.