Talk:Transgender person

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Does anyone know of any trans characters in Faction Paradox or one of the more obscure spinoffs? Trying to boost this page a little bit. Thanks. Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived ☎ 16:48, February 14, 2020 (UTC)

Wait, are you saying that you have a specific craving to add something, anything, to this one specific page, and, since you can’t think of anything, you have to ask somebody else to tell you what to add, so that you may add it? Combined with this and the fact that so many of particular your recent edits relate in some way to trans people... well... this isn’t an attack on you as a person, you seem like a nice guy and all, and it’s always nice to know that we do have allies when the world seems against us, but... as a trans woman myself... I can’t be help but see you as... a little... obsessed...

It’s like... you ever see the movie Get Out? It’s like that, but for trans people instead of black people. I know you mean well but tbh this is a little weird. 86.187.170.77^{talk to me} 21:36, April 17, 2020 (UTC)

I mean in fairness I do have a kinder theory for why you’re acting like this than ‘obsession with proving how not transphobic you are’, because I know from experience of being that person, but that theory would involve wild speculation about your gender identity and your subconscious and I don’t know you well enough for that. 86.187.170.77^{talk to me} 21:46, April 17, 2020 (UTC)

Ok putting an end to this now. This discussion now has nothing to do with the editing of the article and therefore violates Tardis:Discussion policy. Please refrain from continuing with this thanks Shambala108 ☎ 21:54, April 17, 2020 (UTC)

Should we, strictly speaking, really have this page?

I thought we only had pages for nouns ‘round these parts. This page openly admits in the very lede it’s for an adjective! I know I certainly would take none too kindly to being called “a transgender”. Or do adjectives get pages now? because if so I haven’t heard of that! NightmareofEden ☎ 01:33, November 13, 2020 (UTC)

"A transgender", as meaning "a trans person", is indeed not a thing. However, there is some support for using "transgender" as a noun referring to, if you will, trans-ness — patterned after usage of the regular word "gender". For example, "Transgender is the identity claimed by [X]".

It's not that common, and personally I don't think it's a very elegant turn of phrase. However, it does give us enough wiggle room to retain this page without having to make an exception to our usual "adjectives don't get pages" rule. It's that, or Transgender person, which would be a pain to pipe-switch every time we want to use it. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 01:40, November 13, 2020 (UTC)

I wouldn't be opposed to merging this page with gender or gender identity given that it is indeed an adjective. Perhaps transgender should redirect to one of those just like homosexuality and the like redirect to sexuality. -- Saxon (✉️) 01:57, November 13, 2020 (UTC)

"Transgender" works for many people as both noun and adjective, like "Christian", "humanist", "atheist", "Russian" or "Italian". You can talk about "an Italian woman" and "an Italian". Activists should not be such pedants, and should not impose their prescriptive view of the English language on DWU fans.

Behind the Scenes - Other

Whilst I love the Council of Geeks YouTube channel and think Vera's a great person (I do have a copy of her kickstarted book, which I love and I really love her videos), my main wonder is if YouTubers who make Doctor Who content are specifically relevant for the purpose of the wiki. Had it been any other YouTuber, I'd ask the same, but just wanted to check if it's something that needs to be on here. EDIT: I forgot to sign the thingy. ThomasRWade ☎ 11:07, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Not really, know. If a YouTuber appeared on The Fan Show or something, got a DWM profile, etc., then that would be relevant. But if we don't have a page about someone/their works, it's not very relevant. Mind you, I think perhaps the item about Council of Geeks is more meant to be about "Some trans critics have found trans vibes in The Doctor Falls" with Council of Geeks as the source, rather than being about Vera personally? Which would still be debatable, but a somewhat different proposition. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 11:40, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Transphobia page

I was about to go ahead and create a page for transphobia (with a conjecture tag), only to find that it already existed and had been deleted, I don't entirely understand the reason given:

This should only really be a redirect rather than an article if it can point to a section in Transgender which specifically discusses transphobia without naming as such. Equating being trans with transphobia like this is.. not ideal, as far as I'm concerned.SOTO

What does that last sentence even mean? Anyway, I don't get why this page shouldn't be allowed to exist when we have pages for other types of discrimination, including homophobia. WaltK ☎ 01:32, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

In point of fact, it was the decision of Forum:Temporary forums/Slurs and derogatory terms that the page should be created. (Do read through that conclusion in full.) Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 10:20, 15 July 2023 (UTC)