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:::Was it said in the episode "River Song killed the Doctor by Lake Silencio?" No it didn't. It could be she killed the Doctor in what he believes, kills him for what he is (what she told him in AGMGTW). It could also be a red-herring. We don't know who's in the suit, to to say it's River Song is speculation and against the MOS. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 15:08, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
:::Was it said in the episode "River Song killed the Doctor by Lake Silencio?" No it didn't. It could be she killed the Doctor in what he believes, kills him for what he is (what she told him in AGMGTW). It could also be a red-herring. We don't know who's in the suit, to to say it's River Song is speculation and against the MOS. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 15:08, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
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:::Boldclone, you keep repeating that we know this. Please look up the words "know" and "believe" in the dictionary. We know '''facts'''. Should later episodes show that River did not murder the Doctor, would it then cease to be a fact? The statement "River killed the Doctor" is not a a statement of fact. It is a reasonable inference that you believe. I do not dispute the reasonableness of the inference, but I do dispute its factuality.
:::Bold Clone, you keep repeating that we know this. Please look up the words "know" and "believe" in the dictionary. We know '''facts'''. Should later episodes show that River did not murder the Doctor, would it then cease to be a fact? The statement "River killed the Doctor" is not a a statement of fact. It is a reasonable inference that you believe. I do not dispute the reasonableness of the inference, but I do dispute its factuality.
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:::Also, please do not argue your case by repeatedly telling me what "we know." I don't know this, so this is a false statement, and the repetition serves no purpose but to annoy me and and make me write these posts which, undoubtedly, annoy you. I'm not here to annoy you and don't like doing it. I fully expect that by the end of the season we will see what happens at Lake Silencio from a different viewpoint. Let us be patient. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 15:18, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
:::Also, please do not argue your case by repeatedly telling me what "we know." I don't know this, so this is a false statement, and the repetition serves no purpose but to annoy me and and make me write these posts which, undoubtedly, annoy you. I'm not here to annoy you and don't like doing it. I fully expect that by the end of the season we will see what happens at Lake Silencio from a different viewpoint. Let us be patient. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 15:18, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
:As far as we know, she did it. Facts are facts until they are disproven--that is the very nature of science.
:River killed the Doctor, and the Doctor died at the lake. forgive me if the logic is to much for you. I am aware that there are thousand and one different possibilities--for all we know, Amy killed the Doctor, but River took the blame for it. Or River killed Rory, she was put in jail by the Doctor for trying to undermine her own timestream, and Steven Moffat himself was in the suit. But based off the current story information, you cannot legitimately remove the info. At best, you could say "a figure in a spacesuit killed the Doctor, and the Teselecta believed it was the Doctor." (The reason I removed it earlier is that it still seems speculative to me.)
:And I'm sure you're right--we will see the Lake again, from a different perspective. So let's just wait--and until then, we go with twhat the story has told us--River killed the Doctor. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 15:36, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
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