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== Zoom ==
== Wiki Manager ==
Thanks for the pics.  All I can do is share them with Wikia.  It's nothing I'm doing in CSS.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 14:41: Thu 04 Oct 2012</span>
:I assume this is in Firefox, though? I'm not seeing the same results in Safari or Chrome.  Firefox has never reacted very well to zooming on the edit box — though its problems heretofore have been with zooming ''out'' more than ''in''. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 14:45: Thu 04 Oct 2012</span>
::Yep, you ''did'' say Firefox.  Sorry.  The thing about this new design is that the editing window has a fluid height.  Firefox is apparently not liking that fluidity as much as other browsers.  I will say, however, that on pages that have a lot of text, it's not quite so noticeable. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 15:02: Thu 04 Oct 2012</span>


== DWTV Eleven pic ==
Hi Tangerineduel! My name is Playsonic2 and I’m the Fandom Wiki Manager assigned to TARDIS Data Core. I am here to help the community and be a liaison to full-time Fandom staff.


Hi! I already asked CzechOut about this, but seeing as he's "checked out" for the past few days, I was hoping another mod could help me out. I noticed that the [[Template:DWTV|DWTV]] template's Eleven pic is getting to be too small for how many episodes Eleven has now and was wondering if you could replace it with this: [[http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/File:ElevenThinner.jpg]] [[User:Memnarc|Memnarc]] [[User talk:Memnarc|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:17, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
I also happen to be an administrator at the Spanish Doctor Who Wiki, which has me spending considerable amount of time here (adding interlanguage links mostly). I know this wiki wonderfully organised and that [[user:CzechOut|CzechOut]] assists with any technical issues, but if there are ever any issues I could assist with, I would be pleased to help. I will be available on my talk page! ~[[User:Playsonic2|Playsonic2]] 09:03, May 20, 2019 (UTC)
::Thanks! [[User:Memnarc|Memnarc]] [[User talk:Memnarc|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:07, October 17, 2012 (UTC)


== Theme ==
:Heya! Just here to let you know that Fandom now has an official Discord server and lots of editors are joining. In [[w:User blog:MisterWoodhouse/The Official Discord Server for Fandom and Gamepedia Editors|this blog post at Community Central]] you can find more information, as well as a server invite link if you wish to join us. There are many editors there, as well as staff members, and a variety of channels. Cheers! [[User:Playsonic2|Playsonic2]] [[User talk:Playsonic2|<span title="Talk">☎</span>]] 07:46, July 11, 2019 (UTC)


I know. I just made a joke. [[Special:Contributions/139.55.12.139|139.55.12.139]]<sup>[[User talk:139.55.12.139#top|talk to me]]</sup> 11:03, October 17, 2012 (UTC)
== BBC ==


== Back soon ==
Hi, thanks for merging the BBC pages. I just finished removing all the links to "BBC (real world)" and deleted that page. [[User:OncomingStorm12th]] and I cleaned up the [[BBC]] page, so it flows better. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:20, June 28, 2019 (UTC)
Sorry for being away for a couple of weeks. I'll be away for a couple more weeks. I've decided that I can't just stand by in the current election, and am therefore using my free time to support the candidates of my choice. Hope you don't mind holding down the fort for a bit. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:37: Wed 24 Oct 2012</span>


== Update question ==
== Mark I Travel Machine ==
Hi there. This will be a blast from the past: over ten years ago now you [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Guilt_(audio_story)?diff=prev&oldid=238819 edited] [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Guilt (audio story)|Guilt]]'' and added a note that the prototype Dalek seen in the story was of the same design (by description and implication) seen in [[TV]]: ''[[The Daleks (TV story)|The Daleks]]''. If you remember could you please elaborate on this description and implication as I find it hard to reconcile this fact as the Daleks Davros eventually presented to the world were Mark III Travel Machines and not Mark Is. Thanks in advance. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:01, September 21, 2019 (UTC)


I posted a question over at the Panopticon ([[Forum:Wantedpages]]), but didn't get any responses. Might you know where better to ask the question, or mayhaps you might know? Thank you muchly. ----[[User:Ebyabe|<span style="color:purple">'''Ebyabe'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Ebyabe|<span style="color:green"><small>'''(talk)'''</small></span>]] 19:01, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
== About the Deceased category ==


== New fixed width ==
A few days ago, I noticed there was no deceased category for this wiki, so I thought I should create one. So I tried, and saw that you had chosen for this page not to be created, as you judged it not useful since all articles were written in the past tense.
Of course, a deceased category for a time-travel related series isn't an easy task. Should be put any characters that most likely died of old age in this category ? Personally, I don't think so. In my opinion, if we were to have such a category on this wiki, only the ones whose deaths were either witnessed in the series or seen as absolute (for instance Amy and Rory's), when we know those characters will very most likely never be seen again. Well, they could in some extreme cases, then they will just be removed.
So as you probably have guessed by now, I am writing this message to you in order to ask you to re-considerate your decision regarding this category.
Of course, in the case where you would accept, I would gladly take care of filling this category myself (i have seen all the new series but not the old ones yet, it's only a matter of time).
I will then await for your decision on this matter,
With all due respect,


Just to let you know that the 'floating' article templates are misaligned thanks to the now-slightly wider Oasis skin. I'd fix it myself, but it's a CSS thing. {{User:Eladkse/SigReal|20:13,&nbsp;24&nbsp;October&nbsp;2012}}
[[User:ThePurpleShadow|ThePurpleShadow]] [[User talk:ThePurpleShadow|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:21, October 27, 2019 (UTC)


== Orphaned pages ==
== Re:Deceased category ==


Hi! I have a couple of questions about orphaned pages. How many links need to go to an orphaned page for it to be no longer considered orphaned, that is, is one enough? And do I need to remove the orphan tag from the page and remove the page name from the [[Special:Lonelypages]] page? Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:24, October 24, 2012 (UTC)
Thanks to your message, I now understand your point of view better. There is indeed a lot I didn't take into account when I thought this category was needed on this wiki. I usually visit wikis and recently have been adding/completing deceased categories on others, like Reborn's for example. So when I saw this one I thought it was missing, and it could have been useful. But now I see why this isn't the case, and I am sorry I bothered you for such a matter.  
:Thanks! I've only done a handful so far, so I'll remove the tag from them and get to work on some more. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:36, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to write me a reply that could enlighten me about this wiki,


==Unintentional Oops==
[[User:ThePurpleShadow|ThePurpleShadow]] [[User talk:ThePurpleShadow|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:15, October 29, 2019 (UTC)


Sorry about the talk page fix. I was just browsing and somehow forgot I wasn't on a formal page anymore. It won't happen again. [[User:JustLittleOlMe|<font color="blue">Jay JLOM</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:JustLittleOlMe|<font color="Red">Things turn out for the best for the people who make the best of the way things turn out - John Wooden</font>]]</sup> 01:36, October 27, 2012 (UTC)
== Tardis:User rights nominations ==
Hi. As you know, since you left a brief comment there, I've started a self-nomination over [[Tardis:User rights nominations]]. I'm not sure how up-to-track you've been keeping yourself around the wiki, but I thought of bringing to your attention that the usual "one week" period for comments has passed, and you might (if you have the time to, of course) weight in if more time's need or something of the sorts. Anyway, thanks in advance. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:36, January 31, 2020 (UTC)
:Yeah, I saw on your "contributions" section that you still show up once in a while. I'm glad to see this. Also, thanks for closing it. Now into new territory. :) [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:54, February 1, 2020 (UTC)


== Helloooooooooo ==
== Left-over vandalism ==
Hey. Thanks for dealing with the two vandals just now. As per the restrictions in [[Tardis:Vandalism policy]] regarding removal of others' comments may I have your permission to remove all the comments at [[User talk:Borisashton#Singular they]]? Thanks in advance. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:11, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
:I'd like to say thanks too and ask the same regarding my own page. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:15, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
::Thanks. Also, I have no idea how to archive the talk page discussions. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:48, February 5, 2020 (UTC)


Hi there Tang! I'm back! I've a question. What's happened to the blog???? {{User:Metardis/autosig}} 09:22, October 27, 2012 (UTC).        PS  sorry for the nickname.
== Re: Template order ==
Oh, it makes sense. Since most of these "small, rectangle templates" usually go on top, I'd assumed it was ended up being moved to the bottom of the page during a bot run, and went sort of unnoticed, but now looking at the page history I realize it was there since day one. Will change it back. Thanks for the heads up. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] ([[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|talk]]) 16:15, February 5, 2020 (UTC)


Hi tangerinduel. Sorry that before my absence I was just messing the wiki up. Can we say that, well, I'm a new user?
== Just FYI, since you banned them ==
{{User:Metardis/autosig}} 14:18, November 1, 2012 (UTC)


==Stubs==
[[User:Dissident Prodigy]] appears to be a sock puppet [[User:Unbanned reality talk]]. The former was created suspiciously quickly after the latter was banned, the names are vaguely similar, and the former’s only contributions are removing messages insulting the latter from his talk page (including that one message about mentioning logical fallacies by name being ‘reddit-tier arguing’, which, if you look at the history, the latter kept trying to remove - obviously it hit too close to home), as well as a supsicious cryptic comment about the ‘shoe [being] on the other foot’ on Shamabala’s talk page. Probably something you should look into. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.220.11|82.132.220.11]]<sup>[[User talk:82.132.220.11#top|talk to me]]</sup> 13:04, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
I have no idea what you're talking about. You seem to be confusing me for someone else. Or at any rate, I don't remember marking something as a stub. Could you refresh my memory?


== Past tense ==
== Thanks ==
I don't have a lot of time until November, but let me first apologise for not having finished the MOS rewrite yet. Had I done so, I would have already rectified this tense inconsistency thing, of which I was obviously aware.
Thank you for putting an end to [[User:120.20.195.104]]'s obstruction of the Wikia. It started on the Series 12 page, which admin Shambala108 had to lock because they continued to undo facts. I replied to Shambala on the talk page to do something and they kept counter-arguing it. Then I took to editing other pages, which they then kept undoing, obstructing work. Then I had to report to Shambala108 about it, which they followed and kept trying to argue again, this time going at me with personal attacks. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:10, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
:Furthermore they also broke the [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]] by naming spoilers outside the series page, specifically on Shambala's talk page. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:15, February 9, 2020 (UTC)


Since I didn't, let me tell you where I was going with it.
Hopefully, you are right. But I do have my worries that this could continue. And without accusations, I do have slight suspicions that this in itself is a continuation of past actions, as I do remember a user of the past (half a year back or so) who engaged in the same kind of actions with the same motives. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:31, February 9, 2020 (UTC)


I think there's a case to be made for ''always'' going with past tense, period. After all, we're not trying to provide general biographies of people. We're just interested in their career as it intersects with the DWU. Most of our articles on real people begin with something like "David Tennant played the Tenth Doctor", not "David Tennant plays the Tenth Doctor". When we go on to characterise their career, we're talking about their ''past'' roles, since our spoiler policy doesn't allow future tense. Any content about ''current'' roles should obviously be pre-emptively written in the simple past. Even natural-sounding lines like "Steven Moffat is the current executive producer of ''Doctor Who''" can easily be past-tensified by the equally naturalistic, "Steven Moffat assumed the executive producership of ''Doctor Who'' in 2009."
The user is back at again with these removals of sourced material. Could you please take action before this escalates once again? Thank you. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:37, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
:You agree it's unsourced? Cheers! Best to lock the page again so Danny doesn't edit-war. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 07:40, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
::YOU edit-war because you won't accept the facts as they are. YOU were blocked for this. Not once, but twice. Tangerineduel was easy on you with a one day block, but Shambala made your block longer for these actions. Why can't you take the hint that you are messing the page up by doing this? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:45, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
:::You admitted it's unsourced. You agree with me. Thank you! Why can't you read what you say? [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 07:47, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
::::"I think you need reading glasses. I didn't agree. I said you removed SOURCED material. Do you never get tired of going against this Wikia? You'll probably end up getting another block. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:49, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
:::::How's it sourced? Explain to me where it says it's definitely a Christmas special. Also point me to the part where it says it may be completely wrong. If you can't, then ''I think you need reading glasses''. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 07:59, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
::::::You tried this once before, remember? Without luck. Oh, and you have no respect for the spoiler policy as you again posted a spoiler where they are not allowed. I'm done with arguing this fact that you can't accept. The admins can take it from here. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:10, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Because you won't read the source. Just admit it. You've never opened it. You'll never even ''mention'' the bit where it says the source could be wrong. Copy-paste it. I dare you. Bet you won't. Scared of admitting you're wrong. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 08:21, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
::::::::Read it multiple times, thanks. Still not wrong. Oh, and why would I deliberately break the spoiler policy? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:29, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::Clearly not. Told you that you won't confirm that I'm right concerning the source. I'm right again? Wow! I'll be back here when it airs before Christmas, just to tell you that I told you so. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 08:31, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::The only regrettable thing is that I can't deal with disobedient Wikia-trolls like you myself and I have to pester another poor admin to take care of it because people like you keep coming back for more. Unable to accept things as they are. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:39, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::Unable to accept sources as they are? Hey, that's you! Won't even accept what it says. Can I make my CV, say that I paid for the whole series since 1963 and put in online? That's a reliable source, yeah? You seem to think so! [[Special:Contributions/120.20.172.137|120.20.172.137]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.172.137#top|talk to me]]</sup> 08:50, February 19, 2020 (UTC)


It helps future proof articles if they're all, consistently, written in the past tense. Otherwise, you end up with the annoying chore of having to go back and rewrite articles once the subject is no longer currently working in the DWU, once the fact no longer is true, or once someone feels that a "sufficient" amount of time has passed to classify a new story a "past" story.
== Re: UCP and nomination ==
Ah, thank you for getting back to me! Yes, that sounds fair. And I have indeed familiarised myself with the UCP on other Wikis; seemed only sensible.  


I've increasingly come to believe that [[T:POV]] doesn't really work as a rationale for tenses. T:POV is a legacy of founding admins' love of Memory Alpha, where they basically say the same thing: "We're all fictional archivists living at the end of the universe looking back on the fictional universe that we cover".  That construct is ''very'' hard for new people to grasp.  Indeed, Memory Alpha administrators like [[user:Sulfur|Sulfur]] have to periodically fend off challenges to that rule.  They've actually been far less successful at getting their articles to be in past tense, which can be seen by editing almost any in-universe article.  They have to fight back people who argue that some things are "universal concepts" which would be true even of these hypothetical, end-of-the-universe archivists. The vocal opposition at MA says things like, "Even archivists at the end of the universe would be living in a universe so therefore the article about 'universe' should be written in present tense because it's a constant."  Therefore, current arguments by admin like Sulfur have taken to admiring our harder stance on the matter, which just says, "past tense, period."
(I don't think it will affect the Wiki ''too'' badly, from what I've seen; the only area where I'm worried is the Forum, depending on how we handle the situation. In fact, the option to fill in image file descriptions ''within'' the source editor of a ''page'', rather than having to go through [[Special:Upload]] ahead of time, even seems like it might help significantly with issues of new users posting images without any licenses or categories.) --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:22, September 20, 2020 (UTC)
:Well… as you'll doubtless have noticed, we ''have'', now, moved to the UCP, for better or for worse. Will you be able to get back to my case? --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:59, September 29, 2020 (UTC)
::Thank you very much! (Speaking of replies — you didn't actually reply to my response to your concerns in <nowiki>==Neutral==</nowiki>; by all means do if there are areas I didn't address/more assurances you feel I should give.) --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:48, September 30, 2020 (UTC)
:::Point of information, I'm not sure we've finished the move to UCP. There are a variety of changes that come with UCP, the change to the forums is only one of them. I'm not sure that this is relevant, as the others aren't necessarily going to change much on an admin front to ''my'' knowledge, but it is something to bear in mind. (For instance, we still have "Recent Wiki Activity" on my end, which I'm certainly not complaining about, but shouldn't be the case? So I dunno what's going on, but it doesn't seem to be a full transition to UCP. Again, not sure if this is relevant to pausing the admin nom going forward, as the biggest issue there seemed to be the forums from my limited perspective, but it should be pointed out.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:10, September 30, 2020 (UTC)
::Oh, absolutely! Had you had more to ask I would definitely have posted the answers ''on'' the nomination page.  


I therefore think it's probably wiser to completely cut the ties with the MA position altogether and delete [[T:POV]].  Writing in past tense isn't a matter of ''perspective''. It's just a ''choice''.  It's better to just say "use past tense cause that's our stylistic choice" and then demonstrate why using past tense just saves time in the long run. In much the same way that [[T:SPELL]] is just us ''picking'' a form of English to use here, we can and should simply choose a tense and stick with it.  I honestly can't think of a case where using past tense would be at all awkward, even for living people.  Conversely, ''every'' use of present tense immediately dates our writing.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 15:45: Sat 27 Oct 2012</span>
::As regards Najawin's message above, I mean, we had the banner ''announcing'' we had moved. It may be we ''are'' keeping WikiActivity after all as a special favour to one of the Original 100 Wikis? Who knows. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:20, September 30, 2020 (UTC)


==Tense Trouble==
== Admin categories ==
Hi. I just have a question about the usage of past/present tense. If I understand the rules properly, all articles should be placed in the past tense, such as story plots and character bios, etc, though excluding articles on real life subjects such as actors, directors, etc. My question is, why shouldn't the intros to articles on stories (episodes, novels, comic books, etc) use the present tense, since they've covering a real-life aspect of the story? I'm asking this mainly because my edits to change the tense of some of the CON episodes from past to present were almost entirely reverted by you (along with a [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Ninth_Doctor?diff=next&oldid=1267414 minor grammar fix], for some reason) without a message to me or even a line in the edit summary explaining exactly why I shouldn't change the tense. I mean, I had changed the tense of a couple of articles before and even pointed out I was changing the tense in the edit summary, and [[Tardis:Point of view]] seems to say that the present tense should be used for stories instead of the past tense. If present tense should just never be used, I'd just like an explanation as to why.


==Vandalism==
Since you moved yourself into a new category on [[Tardis:Administrators]], I'm wondering if some of the admins listed in the "Frequently active admins" category should also be moved (or whether it's incumbent on them to move themselves). I know when I was newer a few months ago the category not quite lining up confused me. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:18, October 2, 2020 (UTC)
Looking for a mod to help stop the vandalism of the following page: [[List of BBC DVD releases]]. A mod locked out unregistered editor for a two week period a few months ago and that sent the vandals away, but now that they've realised the lockout is gone they are back to ruining the page with nonsense. Help please![[User:Gallicus|Gallicus]] [[User talk:Gallicus|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:25, October 31, 2012 (UTC)


I appreciate the article talk page link you've given me.  I didn't know it existed as a policy before now.  Thank you!  :)  [[User:JustLittleOlMe|<font color="blue">Jay JLOM</font>]]<sup>[[User Talk:JustLittleOlMe|<font color="Red">Things turn out for the best for the people who make the best of the way things turn out - John Wooden</font>]]</sup> 05:06, November 4, 2012 (UTC)
== Community Connect ==


== WHA-? ==
Hey there! Not sure we've spoken much, but I'm Chris - a Wiki Representative at Fandom. Have you heard of an event called Community Connect? It's a Fandom event where news is often revealed about the platform and you get to chat to other admins. It's virtual this year over Zoom or similar but no mic or camera needed. It's 7th + 8th August at 8-12 PT. Is this something you would be interested in attending? I can't guarantee an invite, but I can look into getting one sent to the email associated with your Fandom account --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/>


Why did you delete MY pic from MY user page? Oliver 18:09, November 10, 2012 (UTC)
== Fandom projects ==


== Infobox at the Doctor ==
Hi! Got a couple of things:  
I know you were largely opposed to the idea of there being rotating images at [[the Doctor]]'s infobox.  It's sometimes hard to imagine what any final product will look like based merely on description.  Now that I've finally crossed that one off my to-do list, I hope you'll find that's relatively elegant and harmonious with the way our infoboxes normally look. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 05:31: Tue 13 Nov 2012</span>
:Good call on increasing the animation duration.  ''Much'' more elegant and even a bit dramatic at 10s intervals — with a longer linger on 11 at the end. (You might have to clear your cache to see the change.) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 14:11: Tue 13 Nov 2012</span>


== Tenses, perspectives, and the like ==
As this wiki used to use Special:Forum, Fandom wants to make sure that old forum links and references aren't cluttering up maintenance special pages (unusedfiles, needed pages etc). Would you mind checking and letting me know asap as to whether that's an issue for this wiki? Just looking for dead links to forums in special pages, or links to images used in forums but are now dead, stuff like that. No need to attempt to cleanup yourself, I just need to know if they exist.  
In line with our earlier discussion, I've now moved all the POV stuff out of [[T:MOS]] and into its own short chain of articles, branching from [[T:POV]].  As you'll notice, I've kept it to a bare minimum.  It seems pretty clear to me, and I'm not detecting any particular inconsistencies between [[T:POV]], [[T:IU]] and [[T:OOU]].  I've softened my stance on OOU articles from what I said, above. Now I've gone for strongly recommending past tense, but noting that there might be times to use present tense.  In particular, I've recommended using present tense in BTS ''sections'', so as to draw contrast with the past tense of the IU part of the article.  Lemme know what you think. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 05:53: Thu 15 Nov 2012</span>


== A positive list of sources ==
Secondly, did you receive an email sent last week I believe inviting you to The Downstream on September 10th? The email is titled "[The Downstream] Ask Fandom Anything, Social Media Tips, and Data Insights". I just want to confirm you received the email as we know Fandom outreach emails often land in spam.  
Yes, we do have such a list.  If you'll recall, when I was first re-writing canon policy — back in the days when we were still clinging to that dirty five-letter word — you made a similar request of me.  The concept of a positive list of sources has therefore been a part of the rewrite process ever since.  There's a link to it within the highlight box at [[Tardis:Valid sources#Stories that have been specifically disallowed]]. The more direct link is [[Tardis:Valid sources/Detailed list]].


That said, the list does need a bit of cleanup, post prefix restructuing, as it was based on using the old prefixes.  So these all got converted to the new prefixes, which means the list doesn't say much.  I'll be cleaning that up now ... {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 15:01: Fri 16 Nov 2012</span>
If you could let me know about both of those things, that would be fantastic. Thanks! --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 09:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)


== New forum ==
== Temporary forums ==
I wasn't trying to make a major change without consultation.  Honest!  I tried playing around with the new forum feature on two other wikis and I soon realised I was going have to do some serious tinkering to get it up to speed before we could even ''evaluate'' it fairly. 


I attended the webinar on this one, and have been a part of discussions at [[w:c:avatar]] and I honestly think that — on balance — you're going to ''love'' how this improves our communication.  I'll give further updates as I craft this thing into place. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 23:54: Sat 01 Dec 2012</span>
Hey! Hope all is well in your neck of the woods. Since you've been away, a new discussion's been going on, with our continuing need for forums to get things done again. As we've been in a transition period for a while, and [[user:CzechOut]]'s still busy preparing the next stage of evolution, some users have proposed we make space for these necessary conversations.


== The thing at the bottom of every page ==
Would be good to get another eye on this. Do you think you could have a look? It's over at [[Tardis talk:Temporary forums]]. {{User:SOTO/sig}} 07:01, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Yeah. If you're wondering about this thing that (currently) says "feature under development", well, Wikia are currently insisting that it's a TOU violation to remove it, as I had originally done.  I'm kinda holding off styling it too much, because it's catching a lot of flack from other Wikians, and Staff seem happy to engage with us for the time being. It might well disappear so I don't want to waste a lot of time on it, given how much else there is to do with these new forums.


Oh, yeah, I've not explained what it does :) It's meant to create a link between an article and discussions in the forum.  You can see it in better action at the bottom of [[Blood of the Cybermen (video game)]].  (One) problem is, of course, that very, very few pages (<.01% of pages on a big wiki like this) will actually have anything at the bottom of the page.  Plenty of discussion about it over at the CC blog page about the new forums. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 06:55: Tue 04 Dec 2012</span> 06:55, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
== Discussions AbuseFilter ==


Hello, Tangerineduel. I am not sure how all this works, to be honest. I am the author of the Señor 105 novella 'By The Time I Get To Venus' - I'm not particularly concerned whether the book is included in this wiki or not, but I am concerned by your accusation that Paul Hinder (aka 'Paul Leonard' in Doctor Who fiction circles) had not granted permission for the use of his Venus in the story. I can assure you he most certainly did and I would never have included his concepts had he not been happy for me to do so. This was a paid gig, not a work of 'fan-fic'. You should read it. I'm proud of it. Please retract the accusation. Paul Hinder's blessing is verifiable. It might be an idea for you to do so, as for some reason, you don't seem believe the acknowledgements in the book or on the Manleigh website. Cheers. BB X
Hey! A new feature is available on Discussions - Discussions AbuseFilter (DAF). This is designed to be a tool to help moderation on Discussions, if certain behaviours are being disruptive and making manual moderation difficult:


== Señor Dilemma ==
* [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Special:DiscussionsAbuseFilter DAF page (not enabled yet but I can do)]
I don't see what's so offensive about the current statement, because you're stressing that it's your opinion and that you personally can't find evidence of a connection. There might ''be'' one — but you can't find it. You haven't libelled anyone here, as far as I can see.
* [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DToast/Introducing_Discussions_AbuseFilter Announcement blog]
* [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Discussions_AbuseFilter Help page]


But if you wanted to make it clear, you could go back to the thread — since you're an admin, you can edit it — and just say that you've been contacted by someone who may be the author, and that they claim they had permission from Paul Leonard to use the characters. Then you could state that this doesn't really help us in the inclusion debate, because an anonymous post on a talk page doesn't prove that the work meets our standards for inclusion.
Not compulsory for anyone to use it etc, just letting you know it's here. As a note about forums, I have asked Czech about it and I know he is aware it's still needed. If I can help with anything though, please give me a shout on here or Discord! --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 20:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC)


If you wanted to be ''extra'' cautious, I suppose you could also clarify that you weren't actually saying that it ''was'' fan fiction, just that it ''felt'' like fan fiction.  The whole point here is that the lack of evidence is part of what's causing the inclusion debate in the first place. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 15:57: Wed 05 Dec 2012</span>
== Joledex? ==


Hello, Tangerineduel, again. I really am Blair Bidmead, the author of 'By The Time I Get To Venus' - I am not sure how I can to prove it to you (or indeed why anyone would claim to be when they weren't!). Here's a link to my blog - http://battlefieldbythemeadow.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/venus-in-transit.html - I said that the permission from Paul Hinder is verifiable. You don't seem to trust the acknowledgement in the book or on the Manleigh site, so I'm not sure what I can do to convince you further. If I gave you details of how to get hold of Paul, would you believe that it *was* him from my say so? You're suspicious of everything else so far. You see my problem? He's retired from writing (I hope, not permanently. Obverse are trying to entice him back) but if you know people in Doctor Who writing circles, you should be able to get a contact for him easily enough. PS. Would you like a review copy of 'By The Time I Get To Venus'? Cheers BBX
Im not really sure because it has been a while back. Maybe because I wasn't sure about the spelling of the name 08:46, 2 November 2022 (UTC)


== Latest stuff from CC ==
== Admin nomination ==
I just wanted to keep you apprised of some things that caught my eye at Community Central.
Hi Tangerineduel, just wanted to ping you to let you know that the admin nomination for [[User:Bongolium500]] at [[Tardis:User rights nominations]] has passed the one week threshold and is ready for conclusion. Hope you've been well! – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 14:15, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
: Hey — cheers on closing Bongolium's nomination, but just letting you know that his actual user rights don't appear to have been changed yet? <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 13:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
::Ah, makes sense! Thanks. (This is just why we need Bongolium; I'm no good at the coding stuff…) <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 13:43, 19 December 2022 (UTC)


First there's the simply ''amazing'' case of [[community:user:Juneran|Juneran]], the user with an avatar that Wikia refuses to ban.  Take a look at it and [[community:thread:465965]].  I think it might be important to note how what a lot of people would think of as ''obviously'' offensive is '''not''' a TOU violation.
== Re:Admin - Welcome! ==


Then you'll probably wanna keep up with [[community:user blog:Mira84/Introducing the Wikia App|this blog post]] because it's the first announcement of the new Wikia App for iPad.  You're the one of us who has an iPad (unless Santa is unexpectedly nice this year), so you'll probably have to check up on our content as this app goes live early next year.  Of course, there'll probably be a way to use the app on a desktop Mac, but still, you'll be able to see it "natively". 
Thanks for the welcome! Don't worry about the wait: everyone has their busy moments. I look forward to getting started with some of my new responsibilities! [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:20, 19 December 2022 (UTC)


It means that we're going to have to consider articles in four different formats now: Monobook, Wikia, Wikiamobile and WikiaApp.  I have no idea what that means, specifically, because I don't have WikiaApp in front of me.  But I'm sure this means that we have to do ''something'' about standardising our content in some way.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 23:56: Thu 13 Dec 2012</span>
== Temporary Forums Are Live! ==
Hello!


== Answers ==
Just wanted to notify you that, [[User:CzechOut]]'s final deadline of "by New Year's Day" having passed, and following in-depth discussion between myself and fellow admins [[User:SOTO]], [[User:OncomingStorm12th]] and [[User:Bongolium500]], we have decided to '''activate [[Tardis:Temporary forums]]''', come what may. A [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice|sitenotice]] has been set to inform the community of this development, and I am taking it upon myself to personally update [[Tardis:Administrators|our Administrators]] on the situation, as well as yourself.  
Not aware of any way to change the 10-thread limit.  I'm just archiving more aggressively, since archiving is one '''hell''' of a lot easier than in the old forums.  However, I would ''strongly'' urge you to send in a [[Special:Contact]] on the issue, since they're actively seeking feedback at the moment.  I probably do at least one email a day on [[Special:Forum]] issues, and they're always really nice about it.  We're ''totally'' beta testers on this thing.


As far as the Acer4666 thing, yeah, that's a total Wikia-wide bug that's happening in source mode to people who normally choose to edit in widescreen.  If you collapse to "normal" width, you can then fully see the text of locked pages. It's because of the way they've defined the modules, and the way they're accomplishing the blanking effect. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 22:00: Mon 17 Dec 2012</span>
As the name implies, we hope the Temporary Forums will remain — well — temporary. Any work on reactivating proper DPL Forums will still be welcome and appreciated; this system is a further fine-tuning of the setup Bongolium500 had proposed in December 2021, which it means is designed from the ground up to be '''easy to transfer into the actual DPL Forums''' if we should get those back in the near future after all.  


== Meanwhile in the TARDIS ==
But it has been ''multiple years'' since the Wiki has had a venue for changing policy and forming community consensus on important matters. Bongolium500 and SOTO put forward the first draft of the Temporary Forums a full ''year'' ago — and were convinced to retract it by a promise that the real Forums would come ‘very soon’; and here we are. I don't think anyone's at fault; I do think everyone has the Wiki's best interests at heart. But the time has come to realise that the overly-optimistic strategy of endlessly putting off an imperfect temporary solution in pursuit of a perfect one "soon" has failed, resoundingly. It is time for a different approach. The Tardis community are ''owed'' a different approach. If you ''have'' active DPL Forums to give us, we will take them gladly. But we cannot sacrifice one more promising alternative to a nebulous future possibility which has already proven more difficult to achieve that you'd expected several times over. It is our hope that you can understand respect our decision in this matter.  
Just running through [[:category:proposed deletions]] and discovered that you'd just left {{tlx|merge}} templates at [[Meanwhile in the TARDIS 1 (TV story)]] and [[Meanwhile in the TARDIS 2 (TV story)]]. There's no doubt this needs to be done. Was there some reason you left the tags instead of just doing the merge?  (Not being snarky; just seemed odd and possibly meaningful behaviour.) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 07:31: Wed 19 Dec 2012</span>


== Details of which you should be aware ==
We [[four surviving elementals|four elementals]] behind the Temporary Forums would like to reassure the rest of the admin team that this necessary step '''is not intended to create more work for them unbidden'''. Four are, if it comes to that, plenty enough to keep the peace a Forum with no more than six threads running at a time; we would be thrilled to see the rest of the team embracing the Temporary Forums, but please don't feel any ''obligation'' to do so.  
I've changed all the welcome messages such that they no longer say what article the editor first worked on. This is because all these IP editors, and not a few <50 edit registered editors, were clogging the [[Special:WantedPages]] list after the article they edited was deleted.  It was becoming more than a little tedious having to go back and edit people's welcome messages just to ensure there was no WantedPages detritus.  All welcome templates and MediaWiki messages have been changed to excise this link.  The bot will therefore be working overtime over Christmas removing every single user's "first edit".  Of course, the first edit is still easily viewable from their welcome message, in that there's a convenient link to their contributions history right there.


The "Discontinuity Project" is proving a bit of a bitch, largely because people had sometimes forgotten to categorise the old Forum version of the page.  This has meant an additional step or two with the bot, and it has meant that the literal discontinuity ''index'' wasn't actually a complete index of all the threads we had available.  I've created a discontinuity preload which is now availalble from the drop down menu on the editing window which hopefully will alleviate the non-categorisation issue as we move forward.  Happily, the DW TV discontinuity area is now fully open for tomorrow's episode, with all threads restored to the index listing.  Other parts of the discontinuity index are gradually being reopened as they're completed.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:30: Tue 25 Dec 2012</span>
Happy New Year, happy editing — and happy contribution to the New Forums!
:Oh!  There's going to be a big meeting next month between the Mobile team and the Desktop team at Wikia.  Their agenda is mostly to do with correcting problems in the way the new Wall Forum looks in Mobile. So, since you occasionally look at the world through the mobile skin, take a look at the [[Special:Forum]] pages and see if you spot any oddities.  I've already reported a few things, but they really are looking for input on how Wall Forum looks on Mobile.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:33: Tue 25 Dec 2012</span>
::Also: [[user talk:GusF#Admin application]].  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 07:25: Tue 25 Dec 2012</span>
:::Furthermore, Happy Boxing Day! :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 07:26: Tue 25 Dec 2012</span>


== Renaming pages ==
<span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 11:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)


Thanks for the help! I've renamed the page for [[the construct]] and fixed the links on other pages. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:15, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
== Bot ==


== Timeline subsections ==
Hi, I was wondering if you knew what the process was for an admin to obtain a bot? [[T:HOW BOT]] seems geared towards non-admins. I have experience with programming and would like to use a bot to automate certain tasks. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
: I'm familiar with the technical process of bot creation. However, all a bot really is is a second account with the bot user group which can only be granted by a bureaucrat so I was wondering what the procedure to obtain this is, if there is a procedure, or if I should just create the account and point it your way for you to add the admin and ot user groups. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
:: Thanks. I've created [[User:Botgo50]]. If you could assign it the "administrator" and "bot" user groups, that would be great. This is less important to me, but, while you're at it, would you be able to assign my main account "administrator (Semantic MediaWiki)"? I think I'm the only person using [[T:SMW|SMW]] at the moment and this group would be useful. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)


Hi Tangerineduel,
== Heads up about the thanks extension ==


Thank you for your hypercube pointing out my unfortunate use of Timeline subsections.
Hi. I just wanted to give you a heads up that Tardis is testing the "thanks" extension which Fandom will be rolling out to all wikis soon. This extension allows editors to thank other editors for their edits. The editor being thanked will then recieve a notification. Therefore, while you're actively performing edits, you may receieve a few more notifications than normal. If you notice any bugs, pass them onto [[User:Spongebob456]]. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:59, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


To be honest, I had no idea Timeline sections were no longer being used, and apologise for adding Timeline subsections for [[In the Community (short story)]].
== Re: Tardis Data Core change to Tardis Wiki ==
Did we actually decide to officially change the name? If so, I can run through the Tardis namespace with my bot and get things updated. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC)


I accept the reasons for your removal of these, and will avoid using them in future edits.
: For what it's worth it's not ''my'' understanding that "Tardis Data Core" is obsolete. We were, and remain, "the Tardis Data Core Wiki" in full; our old logo abridged this to ''Tardis Data Core'', the new one abridges it to ''Tardis Wiki''. That's my read. But if mileages on this vary too heavily (it seems concerning that out of us three no one is actually ''sure''), we may need a thread to try and gauge what the community actually wants before we do anything drastic either way. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 15:59, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
--[[User:Freddie R. Aldous|Freddie R. Aldous]] [[User talk:Freddie R. Aldous|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:59, December 28, 2012 (UTC)


== Temporary adminship ==
:: I actually thought our full name was "Tardis Data Core, the Doctor Who Wiki". [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:21, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
For ease of completing the somewhat complicated re-colourisation project, I've temporarily made [[user:Pecoes]] an admin. If you've never met him before, he's a respected code guru who frequents [[w:c:community]] and [[w:c:dev]]. I am not sure at this juncture how long his adminship will last.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 18:46: Wed 23 Jan 2013</span>


== Zaroff ==
::: I agree that a forum thread is a good idea. Does anyone particuarly want to start it? If not, I'm happy to do so within a few days. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:36, 10 July 2023 (UTC)


Hi! I noticed that you put a cleanup tag on the [[Zaroff]] page, and since ''[[The Underwater Menace (TV story)|The Underwater Menace]]'' is one of my favorite stories, I couldn't resist. I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for, but could you take a look at [[User:Shambala108/Sandbox]] to see what I've written? If it's not what you want that's fine, or if you see any corrections or additions, let me know. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:45, January 25, 2013 (UTC)
:: Ah, excellent! [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 10:45, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
:OK I tweaked the page a bit. What do you think about the quote placement? I'm not sure about it, but if you like it I'll keep it. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:04, January 26, 2013 (UTC)


== Don't delete videos just cause they're "unused" ==
::: Great! [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:48, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Videos don't obey the expected rules of file usage.  If you go to [[cricket bat]], you'll see a video in the right rail.  This video, [[:File:Coming to terms with regeneration - Doctor Who Castrovalva - BBC]] is actually on [[cricket bat]], [[regeneration]] and [[Fifth Doctor]].  But being in the right rail doesn't "count" towards the file usage stat, so you get this false positive "no pages link to this image" message. 


For this reason, I'd advise that you not delete videos on the basis of the "file usage" stat. You should pretty much assume that every video uploaded is being used somehow, even if it's not readily apparent how.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 08:22: Sat 26 Jan 2013</span>
== Can you give admin to my bot? ==


:p.s. To answer your inevitable question: yes, I '''''have''''' been waiting for the moment when a technical advisory would force me to direct you to a [[cricket]]-related page.
Hi, I've been running [[User:Botgo50]] relatively succesfully for a while now but it'd be really helpful if it could be given admin, mostly so that it can edit protected pages. Would you be able to do that next time you're arround? Thanks. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)


==[[Talk:Tenth Doctor]]==
== Re: Bot admin request ==


I don't really need to say much having put what I have doneas the title, Tangereineduel, but what I can say is a huge debate is occurring, and it has sparked vandalisms of [[Tenth Doctor|The Tenth Doctor page]] and ill attitude from several Anon Users and basically you're opinion is needed. [[User:MrSiriusBlack|MrSiriusBlack]] [[User talk:MrSiriusBlack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:02, January 28, 2013 (UTC)
Thank you very much! [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC)


== OverAnalyser cleanup ==
== Admin+ ==
I really need your help cleaning up after [[user:OverAnalyser]]'s many, many infractions of [[T:NO RW]], for which he or she is again blocked. He or she had a penchant for creating articles, as you know, that went one step too far.  [[Cabin steward (The Chase)]] is a good example.  He's gone far beyond anything in ''The Chase'', relying far too heavily on real life to write the article, extrapolating that since the real life cabin steward on the ''Mary Celeste'' was named "Edward William Head", so must be the DWU cabin steward. 


One big issue with ''The Chase'' stuff that needs checking is whether "[[Flight Through Eternity]]" is at any point identified as taking place on [[25 November]] [[1872]], or if OverAnalyser was simply supplying the real life date.
Hey there! I’m reaching out to introduce the Admin+ program (if you haven’t heard about it already!) & let you know I’m here if you have any questions about it. Take a look at the details [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Admin_Plus here] & feel free to send over any questions you have. <span style="font-family: Rubik; border-radius:8em; padding:0 5px; background:#d58494">[[User:Pikushi|<span style="color:#f1f5ff">pikushi ✧.*</span>]] </span>  <staff /> 20:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)


If you could comb his contributions list, I'd be grateful.  I've looked through the latest 100 or so, but once I started hitting ''The Chase''-related stuff and the various entries for the ''Mary Celeste'' crew, I kinda knew I was getting too far away from the tasks I need to be focussed on at the moment.  I think I've left behind generally solid edit summaries so you should see notes like "reverting OverAnalyser" or "upholding [[T:NO RW]]" where I've already been.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 04:19: Thu 31 Jan 2013</span>
== Request for help ==
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OA claims:
{{quote|I had ignored the first few hypercubes -- ''not the content of the messages; the entire notice that I even had a message'' -- because, being new, I mistakenly thought that "hypercubes" were just automated nonsense like the notices about the "badges" earned, rather than being actual messages.|User:OverAnalyzer|http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:CzechOut/Archive_13#resent_prior_message_that_I_just_realised_that_I_had_forgotten_to_sign}} 


So, if accurate, that means he — and I think we can say ''he'' based on his comments to me — didn't see any of our warnings ''befpre'' 28 December 2012. He thought that the Hypercube message alert was just a Community-corner message alert, and didn't feel it applied to him enough to be bothered clicking the link.  So up until the end of last year ''nothing'' we wrote to him was seen.  Our communication to him begins only with [[User talk:OverAnalyser#Seriously, no real world information]]. As you can see, I really did try to understand and educate him.  But when he again screwed with the [[Ringo Starr]] page, that was it for me.  At that point, he no longer had an excuse ''not'' to have seen his previous ban, so it was clear he didn't care about [[T:NO RW]]. 
Hi! I was wondering if I could get you to look into [[User talk:Shambala108#Something you might want to look into|this issue]]. For various reasons (which I would be glad to tell you if you wish), I don't feel I am the right person to address this, and I definitely don't think any of the newer admins could help. I feel like this situation is starting to remind me of [[Forum:What about Bob?|something from long ago]]. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:42, 28 November 2023 (UTC)


Shame to lose this editor, in a way, because he seemed knowledgeable about the old series, and he was polite in discussions.  But, as evidenced by his contribution history, he either never fully understood, or — more likely — ''just wasn't interested in following'' [[T:NO RW]].
== re:Recent edits ==


I tried to rollback everything I could at the time I banned him, because his edits were largely still the latest ones. But when I started pulling on the piñata that was ''The Chase'', I began to encounter more and more articles that he ''originated'' or where there were intervening editors. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:52: Thu 31 Jan 2013</span>
I think I get what you're saying, but I wanted to ask for some clarification. I was always told it is best to leave a reason behind reversions in the edit summaries, but I think your saying to only do so for a limited number of times before taking things to a talk page? [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:39, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
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==Just out of interest==
== Since you're on ==


Tangerineduel, I have a question. It is this: Why exactly was this Wiki's name changed from '''Tardis Index File''' to '''Tardis Data Core'''? Just interested to know, as I have been wondering for a while (Not that my wonderings and ponderings would tell me anything on this). [[User:MrSiriusBlack|MrSiriusBlack]] [[User talk:MrSiriusBlack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:42, February 11, 2013 (UTC)
Can you block 119.111.220.93‎? It's some random user that will do a ton of vandalism, get blocked, and then come back under a new IP a few weeks later. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:13, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


Aha, reading that discussion makes it make all the sense...thanks Tangerineduel. [[User:MrSiriusBlack|Sirius]]|[[User_talk:MrSiriusBlack|Hypercube Me]]
== RE: Wild Blue Yonder Numbers ==


== BF trailers ==
Hi there! Hope you are well. Per your response on my talk page, I wanted to check this. So does that mean it is best I leave those pages alone then and leave you and the order admins to sort out the whole merging thing? Looking forward to your reply. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 11:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)
Nope. You're not overly worrying. I just screwed the pooch and failed to read the Terms and Conditions. I've written off to them for their opinion.  That'll teach me for trying to do a little improvement project while waiting for Wikia's midweek code changes to settle down enough for me to burrow back into the CSS. Here's the text of the message:
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Hi all :)  


We've recently been doing another round of improvement of our Big Finish-related articles at tardis.wikia.com, and we've come to a question of legality that only you can resolve.
== Re. Financial crisis of 2007 ==
While I'm not an expert on the topic, it seems to me that the credit crunch was one of the events that followed the financial crisis of 2007; the 2008 credit crunch wasn't the "main" incident. Although "credit crunch of 2008" is stated in dialogue while "financial crisis of 2007" isn't (to the best of my knowledge) it seems misleading to name the page "credit crunch of 2008".


On the theory that it was fair use to use a thing intended to be an advertisement as an advertisement, we started putting your unedited official trailers for each audio play onto each play's page. See the bottom of the infobox at Phantasmagoria for an example.  Then it was pointed out that the fourth provision of your website's terms of use could be construed to specifically prohibit this sort of thing.
It'd be like if [[D-Day]] was named in the DWU but [[World War II]] wasn't; it'd be incorrect to name the larger conflict "D-Day", even though in this hypothetical situation that name isn't conjectural while the name of the larger conflict would be.


For clarity, what we're doing is downloading your official trailers, converting them to .ogg (since MediaWiki software doesn't accept .mp3), uploading them without expurgation to the wikia.com servers, attaching this copyright warning, and then placing them on the relevant story page.  Aside from the .ogg conversion, the only change we've made to the file is to slightly change the names so that they more precisely match the actual name of the play. Your naming convention is something like The-roof-of-the-world-XXX.mp3.  We convert to The Roof of the World.ogg.
But then, there easily could be a story that uses the name "financial crisis of 2007" somewhere, which maychave not been documented on the Wiki yet. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 13:53, 3 February 2024 (UTC)


Is this a fair use of your materials, or have we crossed the line?
== RE: Prop delete query ==
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I'd kinda expect a response before the weekend, given statements on their website, but we should know by next week at least.  Thanks for catchin' this. (Note that the original document was well-linked, but this quick copy and paste job didn't bring over those links.) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:24: Thu 14 Feb 2013</span>
:Paul Spragg responded very quickly:
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:No, that's absolutely fine. We made the trailers downloadable in the hope they'd spread as far and wide as possible, so do with them what you will.


:Paul Spragg
Hey! Sorry I missed your message; I still haven't adapted to talk page notifications being moved to the bell. It's been great seeing you around more recently, by the way.
:Big Finish
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:So that's, that, then.  We're über-compliant now that we have written permission.  Thanks for bringin' this up so that we ''could'' get crystal clarity on the situation. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 19:47: Thu 14 Feb 2013</span>


== TENTH DOCTOR PAGE ==
At time of writing, the only of my user subpages not related to the Forum Archive is the ''Five Doctors'' home media sandbox page, from a project it was ultimately decided in the forums not to proceed with anymore. (Shambala actually added that tag, not me, but I've been holding onto it in case there happens to be a revival in the [[F:CLOISTERS|New Forums]].)


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{{NameSort}}Hi, can you allow me to edit the Tenth Doctor page. I have a lot of infomation on his solo comic travels taking place in between series 2 and 3 and series 3 and 4. I think it will benefit the page greatly. Thank you.
I should be able to complete those pre-launch steps from a library computer, come to think of it, so I hope to have time for that soon. I do appreciate your reminder!{{User:SOTO/sig}} 05:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC)


== Eleventh Doctor template update ==
== Deletions ==


Could you please [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Template_talk:Companions_of_the_Eleventh_Doctor#New_companions update the template on the Eleventh Doctor's companions]? Thanks. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 15:12, February 18, 2013 (UTC)
Two pages I added and edited were deleted.
Kiviniss Ak
And Rom Kor-Marisi
Were two character editions direct from author
Simon Guerrier
As listed in the credits.
Did I add them incorrectly?
Thank you {{Unsigned|BrentSmith66}}


== iPad display issue ==
== Welcome ==
Hey, could you please take a look at the conversation at [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess#Display issues]], and check out the way {{tlx|tardis manual}} is displaying on your iPad?  I would imagine I'm seeing the "truth" on Apple-provided iOS emulation, but I'm not entirely positive.  Thanks.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:44: Tue 19 Feb 2013</span>


== Doctor Who Magazine year pages ==
Well it's certainly great to have you! I'm glad you made it. I ''do'' seem to remember rumblings way back when in my own early days.
The DWM year pages need a bit of attention. 1990s-present seem to be organised around the "year of release", rather than year of cover date.  This is a bit confusing since DWM have now switched back to simple month cover dates. [[Doctor Who Magazine/2012]], for instance, starts with [[DWM 443]] — the February 2012 issue — and ends with [[DWM 455]], the '''January 2013''' issue.  What's usually observed in thinking about the dates of a magazine are its cover dates, not the dates it was available to the public.


Also, I know for a fact we have no idea what the release dates are for the monthly issue of the 1980s.  So ''those'' year pages are done by cover dates, whereas the more modern years are done by release date.  Highly confusing.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 19:35: Sat 23 Feb 2013</span>
I can't imagine it ''would'' be fun sticking around with most of our support forked over here. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't sad to leave it behind, as exciting as all these new opportunities are to build the wiki the way we want it!
:Yeah I was never happy with the "pulled from the newsstands" bit. I did that at the time to emphasise to other users that we'd gotten it wrong and needed to adjust things. That's only around for sorta the 1990s-mid-2000s. Unfortunately no one took the hint.  The phraseology that's been at [[Template:DWM issue/preload]] for a while now has been what you'll find at, say, [[DWM 457]].  It almost certainly has the neutrality you're looking for.


:But still people haven't quite grasped the concept of what a "cover date" is, so I've had to go back and painstakingly correct things, issue by issue. There is, alas, no bot run for this since it involves replacing factually incorrect material.  Hopefully people will get it, but I dunno.  Feels like I've been trying intermittently for years to get the DWM issues factually correct about their cover dates.  Oh wait, I have.  I'm afraid it's just gonna take concentrated effort to go through all 457 issues. Manually.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 15:47: Sun 24 Feb 2013</span>
I'm going to make a concerted effort soon to import missed changes from the 5 or so days we missed during final preparations, by the way. If there's anything in particular you want me to bring over from before you got here, so you don't feel you have to re-do edits, do let me know!


== Vandalism ==
(Incidentally, I've [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Interwiki_map#Tardis_Wiki put in a request over at Wikimedia] for them to add us to their inter-wikis. Might take a while before that's approved, but I thought it might be of interest, since that seems to be closer to your neck of the woods than mine.)


Hi! There is some major vandalism at [[The Doctor]]. I tried to "undo" it, but the vandal had made three successive edits, so it didn't work. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:11, February 25, 2013 (UTC)
EDIT: Importing means preserving the edit history, which is generally preferable, but there's also nothing wrong with bringing things back up to date yourself. Especially given they're ''our own edits''.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 05:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
: Ah, one other thing. As bureaucrats, on the independent wiki we now have access to [[Special:RenameUser]]. It really does what it says on the tin. Users might approach you with [[Help:Changing your username|user rename requests]] now.


==Doctor linking==
: So long as there's nothing against the name in [[Tardis:Username policy]], and the username doesn't already have any registered edits on Tardis, I see no reason not to fulfil them. I have been recommending that users place their old name somewhere visible on their user pages, though, for the avoidance of confusion.
Sorry about that. I'm normally pretty good about doing it to the specific incarnation, I just forgot this time. [[User:Cult_Of_Skaro|Cult Of Skaro Here.]]|[[User talk:Cult_Of_Skaro|Communicate here.]] 16:12, February 26, 2013 (UTC)


== Accidental archive==
: (I've only done one so far. It never once occurred to me before this would be something I'd be doing.){{User:SOTO/sig}} 05:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Would you mind deleting [[User talk:Cult Of Skaro/Archive 1]]? I created it before seeing the archive tool, and so now I'm shown as having two archives when I only really have one. [[User:Cult_Of_Skaro|Cult Of Skaro Here.]]|[[User talk:Cult_Of_Skaro|Communicate here.]] 16:24, February 26, 2013 (UTC)


==Counter==
=== Renaming users ===
A few days ago, my day counter rolled back to 1, despite the fact that I've been contributing for many days in a row (You can check my user contributions if you don't believe me). Is there some kind of problem with the counter, because this seems terribly unfair.[[User:The Nth Doctor|The Nth Doctor]] [[User talk:The Nth Doctor|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:18, February 28, 2013 (UTC)
:: That is a really good point regarding the potential for abuse. I had only really considered allowing requests from long-term trusted users.


== Fritter statement unclear ==
:: We'll need something in place to prevent user rename requests from being fulfilled that would too closely resemble other well-known users, for one thing... which can be hard to scale when the once-active user they might be confused for is long-gone. (Maybe checking against [[Special:ListUsers]], ordered by edit count, up to a certain point, should be procedure, in case.)


It's really confusing wording:
:: We'll definitely need to lay out clearer policy. Watching out for signs of sockpuppet abuse is another, definitely. I think the first thing I'd lay out is a minimum threshold of time or number of edits with us in order to make the request. Maybe it should be on a public page, like a smaller-scale [[Tardis:User rights nominations]].
:''...that could not be equalled this side of the [[Crab Nebula]]''
I'm honestly not even completely sure I understood that myself.
# What's "this side?"
# "Could not be equalled?" — What does that mean? It's smaller? Bigger? Does it have nothing to do with size? This makes zero sense to me.
If you can explain what this means, I might tweak the wording to make it more clear.
--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 15:53, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
::Hmm, thanks for the quote. Maybe I'll add quotation marks. On a side note, are you sure ''Spam'''s capitalised in the book? We might need to change the capitalisation in the two pages.
::--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 16:08, March 19, 2013 (UTC)
:::In that case, I'll convert all mentioned to capitalised form.
:::--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 16:16, March 19, 2013 (UTC)


== 'Ello. ==
:: A user requesting a name change would have to fill out a template where they confirm they meet the requirements. Maybe we'd allow very small scale changes to the name '''exactly once''' even soon after account creation, in the case of typos and such, but then require that they stick with us first.


Hello, I am Chaossy. I'm a bit new here on the TARDIS wiki, and I don't know where to start editing. Any suggestions?
:: The one thing I'd like to avoid is blindly approving any request from a user we don't really know. I think we can make it work, though!


== Clara merge ==
:: (P.S. I brought in [[Tardis:User talk pages]].){{User:SOTO/sig}} 06:42, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
Since it's both policy and community consensus, it has been decided to merge the articles. I believe you volunteered for the service? Is there enough time? If you're not up for doing it today, I'll have to ask someone else... Please drop by [[Thread:121062]] ASAP!<br>--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 19:11, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
:SOTO proposed a vote yesterday, but it doesn't appear anything was ever officially decided on, I didn't even see said proposition until just minutes ago and given such a short period of time, many others probably haven't either. So I don't know why s/he thinks that all of the sudden the issue has been decided. [[Special:Contributions/71.80.217.6|71.80.217.6]]<sup>[[User talk:71.80.217.6#top|talk to me]]</sup> 22:56, March 29, 2013 (UTC)
::<nowiki>*</nowiki>''He''*. Anyways, yeah, we're not going to end up doing it immediately after all, mainly because of lack of time. Even though Czech's said that it's policy to merge them, I guess we'll have to just create a dab page and open a new discussion tomorrow...
::As per, [[T:DAB]], I'm planning on moving [[Clara Oswald]] to [[Clara Oswald (The Snowmen)]], and making [[Clara Oswin Oswald]] (with [[Clara Oswald]] as a redirect) into a dab page, linking to all the different Claras. Considering that they're popular pages, however, I'd rather it if an admin would do it to avoid riots. Could you either do this yourself, or at least approve of it? Otherwise, I'll have no choice but to just do it on my own.<br>--[[user:SmallerOnTheOutside|SOTO]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|☎]] 23:36, March 29, 2013 (UTC)


::::I think [[the Master]] was a special case where merging would have produced a frankly  useless page history.  In general, the way you propose to merge pages is definitely the way we should do it.  Fire at will.  :)  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 01:28: Thu 04 Apr 2013</span>
::: It's looking good so far! Do I have your permission to make small changes while it's still in your sandbox?


==Abuse Filter==
::: It might also be good to quickly say that Tardis bureaucrats reserve the right to adjust the minimum number of edits (agreed, amount of time would be a bad idea) as new request data comes in. Please continue editing with us if you haven't met the mark yet! (Making sure to keep to good-faith edits. We probably need to introduce a variant on the GOR rules for hitting edit requirements.)


My proper account was blocked by [[User:Abuse Filter|This non-existent thing]] for no reason. 0 edits. Blocked. I don't know why. What is abuse filter? [[Special:Contributions/94.2.105.16|94.2.105.16]]<sup>[[User talk:94.2.105.16#top|talk to me]]</sup> 10:20, April 4, 2013 (UTC)
::: Also, if we are formally suggesting that new-ish users make new accounts (instead of granting one minor rename request in the first week, which ''does'' count in using up their 12 months), we'll have to make clear that they need to declare their old account per [[T:SOCK]], unless they didn't make any edits with us.


== Shambala's nomination ==
::: Agreed on requirement to declare your old account for 6 months minimum. There should also be something, perhaps a separate page like [[Help:My rename request was rejected]], which makes clear that repeated attempts to log for already-rejected names (or still too similar to them, or during a period when you have no "token") will result in a warning and then a temporarybban. If you've already been rejected, and you're not sure, ask a bureaucrat clarifying questions before submitting a request.
Could I please ask you to come back to [[Tardis:User rights nominations#Shambala108]] on the 12th of April (your time zone) in order to close the nomination and, if necessary, grant admin rights to her?  Since I actually made the nomination, it'd probably be more balanced if you assessed the discussion and decided whether to confer rights upon her. Thanks :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 22:21: Thu 04 Apr 2013</span>


== 100000 ==
::: [[User:Bongolium500|Bongo]] can probably make us a form with the required inputs, so it automatically creates a new section with syntax for user stats, once we get <code><nowiki>{{#editcount:USER}}</nowiki></code> up and running (and a link to a DPL page I can work on building for help finding similar usernames). But it might be worth manually checking.


Just wanted to take a second to congratulate you, the admin team, and everyone else on reaching ''100,000 pages'' on TARDIS Data Core! Hurrah! '''<font color=#609000>d</font> [[User:Witoki|<font color=#609000>●</font>]][[User_talk:Witoki|<font color=#FF6090><small>●</small></font>]][[Special:Contributions/Witoki|<font color=#6090FF><small><small>●</small></small></font>]]''' 16:23, April 5, 2013 (UTC)
::: Officially halting all user rename requests until we have this all set up and worked out.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 06:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


==I've noticed something...odd==
:::: (I do also wonder if we should decide what to do in cases where new users have given themselves policy-breaking names like "Tardis admin" or some hate speech. Should we, by course, rename the user to "Permablock--638528", ie. some random string of 6 digits (wouldn't want anyone to see it as a leaderboard, in sequence), in order to remove that vandalism/bothersome claim, after blocking?)


So daylight saving time has begun and so the clocks have gone forward. But when you do the four tildes to signature thingy it displays the time as an hour before the actual time. Bit weird, thought I'd mention it. And here's an example. it's 10:22am where I am, and it comes up as 9:22am (Probably different to you, you might be in a different time zone, I don't know). The example is here --> [[User:MrSiriusBlack|MrSiriusBlack]] [[User talk:MrSiriusBlack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:22, April 6, 2013 (UTC)
:::: (It seems to me that would be a good idea.){{User:SOTO/sig}} 06:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)


That's the thing, Tangerineduel. I noticed it long before I posted the above message. It is 17:59 where I am. And it says --> [[User:MrSiriusBlack|MrSiriusBlack]] [[User talk:MrSiriusBlack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:59, April 7, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! I've gone ahead and made a few relatively minor changes to [[Tardis:User rename policy]], and I've streamlined the request page to make things easier. I also added in the total number of requests a user has made in the section heading (needs to be manually changed from #1 for further requests).


Yes it does. (15:42 here) [[User:MrSiriusBlack|MrSiriusBlack]] [[User talk:MrSiriusBlack|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:42, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
I'm pretty happy with both pages, personally. I've also updated [[Help:Changing your username]] now.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 08:27, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
::You might want to direct future enquiries of this kind to [[Thread:127566]]. It's a personal, account-level problem.  Nothing to do with us or even Wikia.  It's either a perception problem or that they haven't allowed their time setting to adjust to Daylight Savings.  People always bring this up at this time of year, and it's almost always the British, who suddenly lose sync with UTC. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 03:22: Thu 11 Apr 2013</span>


== Reply ==
=== Checkuser checks and balances ===
: On a separate but related note, we also have the ability to grant users (read: ourselves) the <code>checkuser</code> role, which is even more serious.


Hi! I just wanted to let you know that I got your message. I have a bunch of real life things to do today, but I will get back to you tonight (my time). Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:47, April 9, 2013 (UTC)
: Bongo suggested — and I agree — that for complete transparency, only when it's absolutely necessary to check for suspected socks, we will '''''temporarily''''' assign that role, perform the check, and then remove it again. Logs of any checkuser scan are also provided to the public, including an admin summary.
: To address your question and the questions that Czechout brought up:
::I'm not a very technically minded person. I've had a computer since the 90s and only recently found the mechanism for taking a screen shot. That's why I haven't uploaded any image files to the wiki. I'd like to upload pictures from some of my DVDs, once I get a chance to learn the process.
::Czechout mentioned that I have no edits in the template namespace. The simple reason for that is that I don't know how. Specifically I haven't come across a need to use or create a template in my editing so far.
::He also mentioned the category namespace. I've created a few categories, but for the most part I've been able to find existing categories that suit my needs.
:I hope this answers your questions. I will understand if it's decided that I don't have enough knowledge for the position. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:19, April 10, 2013 (UTC)


== Merge request ==
: I strongly suggest we hold off on this for as long as possible, as we get settled in and update our policies. We need to think deeply about oversight and transparency, now that [[T:LOCAL WINS|local policy really ''does'' prevail]].
I've got very little patience for merging things, but you're an old hand at it. Any chance that I can get you to  do a non-controversial merge of [[ray gun]] &rarr; [[energy weapon]], with energy weapon being the "survivor" but ray gun redirecting to energy weapon?  There's no meaningful distinction between the two, so far as I can see.  Thanks :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 00:09: Mon 15 Apr 2013</span>
:I'm sorry; I didn't mean to imply urgency, but thanks for moving speedily.  It's just that {{tlx|merge}} is supposed to start a discussion, and I didn't think there was any case that could be made for keeping them separate. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 16:08: Tue 16 Apr 2013</span>


== Speediness ==
: If you'd find it helpful, I can also invite you to a space where such things can be discussed with our sysadmins, who laid out our [[Tardis:Privacy policy|Privacy policy]] and [[Tardis:General disclaimer|General disclaimer]].{{User:SOTO/sig}} 06:31, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
I've got no intent to do any other kind of "speedy administrative action" thingy, like speedy merge or speedy delete, which is why [[T:SPEEDY]] leads only to [[Tardis:Speedy renames]]. I've always seen mergers and deletions as totally different beasts to simple renames (moves), even if renaming does frequently involve deletion of the original page name, and is very technically a merge.


I think this is a little better than a category because it collects information about the '''state of links'''.  It requires the user to assert that they have checked on the links and either done something about them or not.  If someone has already performed the link moves, and they don't need the bot, then any admin can assist them. So this tool will hopefully allow me to focus on only those moves where the bot is specifically needed.
== RE: Thanks ==


It'll also, I think, differentiate between those renames that require discussion — which is not that many, really — and those that don't. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 14:47: Wed 17 Apr 2013</span>
You're very welcome. Lovely to have you! {{User:Aquanafrahudy/Sig}}


== Companion Status? ==
== Bumbling around the new place ==
I hope this is the right place to ask, because I have a quick question I was hoping you might be able to help answer. I was wondering what makes Madame Vastra a companion, but not Jenny Flint? They've both been in exactly the same media. John Riddell, Nefertiti, Sarah Jane and Jo Grant (due to the SJA ''[[Death of the Doctor]]''), and Christina de Souza due to her comic strip reappearance are all labeled as Eleventh Doctor companions because of one-off appearances with that specific incarnation. [[A Good Man Goes to War]] and [[Dinosaurs on a Spaceship]] seem similar situations, where the Doctor assembles a group of companions in both, so it seems strange that Jenny, a key character who ends up reappearing, isn't a companion, while the others are. There's a debate on [[Talk:Jenny Flint|Jenny's talk page]] about this where OS25 claimed he was going to remove characters like Vastra and Riddell from the Eleventh Doctor companion category, but they're either still there or were re-added, so I was wondering if you could weigh-in on that and explain where the line is drawn? [[User:Mewiet|Mewiet]] [[User talk:Mewiet|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:58, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
:After I posted this, I also noticed that someone's listed Jenny and Strax as companions on ''[[The Crimson Horror (TV story)|The Crimson Horror]]'' episode page, but I don't want to add the Eleventh Doctor companion category to their pages if that's not allowed. [[User:Mewiet|Mewiet]] [[User talk:Mewiet|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:04, May 4, 2013 (UTC)


== Filter snafu ==
Hello! A bit late, but I’m finding my way around the new digs. I was “surprised-but-not-surprised” when I learned the news of the migration; I certainly have seen enough headaches from arbitrary Fandom diktats to understand the reasons for the decision.
Sorry that your recent comment to the ''SS, HS'' debate was accidentally blocked. I was flipping through several alternatives on how to determine whether someone was a "new" user and you tripped across a definition that works in every other namespace but Thread.  That definition has now been eliminated, so you should find yourself immune to any such further difficulties.  I've placed your comment back within the thread. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 14:59: Wed 15 May 2013</span>


== Sam(antha) Jones ==
Although I was an infrequent editor and an even more infrequent admin on the old site, it would be nice to retain the admin bit. (Like the Doctor’s “parts” that Cassandra refers to in “New Earth”, it’s nice to have them even if they are “barely used.”)
Hi Tangerineduel, we need your advice.  I see from the history of the [[Samantha Jones]] page that you have added a lot of information there, and therefore must be quite familiar with the character.  The advice I actually need isn't for this wiki, but for the [[w:c:drwho.answers|Doctor Who Answers wiki]], a partner wiki to this one, where we have two categories for this character, one titled Sam Jones and the other, Samantha Jones, and they need to be combined into one category. However, both me and the user who brought this duplication to my attention don't know anything about this character other than what is here on the Data Core.  What we need to know, in short, is what version of the name is the character most known as, Sam or Samantha, so we can give the category the name most likely to be searched for by users searching for questions on the subject of her. Thanks in advanced, [[User:Imamadmad|Imamadmad]] ([[User talk:Imamadmad|Contact me]]) 10:28, May 17, 2013 (UTC)


:Thanks for that! [[User:Imamadmad|Imamadmad]] ([[User talk:Imamadmad|Contact me]]) 22:57, May 17, 2013 (UTC)
Please let me know if there is anything I should be aware of about in the change beyond what’s in the general announcements. Thanks! —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


== Game of Rassilon idea ==
:Ooh, that was quick! Looks like SOTO took care of it without me even asking! Now, that’s service! Never mind me, then. —[[User:Josiah Rowe|Josiah Rowe]] [[User talk:Josiah Rowe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)


Hi! Czechout and I are working on a [[Bernice Summerfield]] stories track for the Game of Rassilon. Neither of us know enough about her, though, so he suggested asking you for help. This is what we have so far as possibilities:
== "Talking dog" ==
* something about archaeology - "I Dig Archaeology"
Hey, I really do appreciate your going through the proposed mergers lately, but [[Talk:Talking dog]] was an ongoing discussion; it wasn't settled that it should be merged. Do please check these things! As you know, it's very tricky to ''undo'' a merge that was done in error. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
* something about having students -
* something about drinking - Bernice's silver hipflask
* something about sex with Eight -
* something about the impermanence of marriage - "I got a divorce on the [[Moon]]"
* something about the joy of big weddings -
* something about the extreme length of time she was a companion - "I've been with [[the Doctor]] longer than any of you"
* something about Ice Warriors -"Mare Silenium" or ''[[Down Among the Dead Men]]''


If you have any suggestions, even for the ones we already have filled out, please [[User talk:Shambala108|let me know]]. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:47, May 20, 2013 (UTC)
== Unnecessary category redirects ==


== Revisiting Merger ==
Hi Tangerine, would you be able to delete [[:Category:4DA Series 9 audio story images]] and [[:Category:The Fourth Doctor Adventures Series 9 audio anthology images]], as they are both unused and unnecessary; only existing because of mistakes whilst moving categories. The source code seems to be locked for them both though, so I can't put a delete tag there myself.


Are we going to finally merge the Auton Rory page into the Rory page as discussed here - Talk:Rory_Williams_(Auton)#Merging and here - Talk:Rory_Williams_(Auton)#Revisiting_merger? Both discussions ended with people in favor of merging. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] [[User talk:Noneofyourbusiness|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:53, May 21, 2013 (UTC)
Ta, {{User:Gingerfool/Sig}} 23:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
 
Thanks. -- [[User:Noneofyourbusiness|Noneofyourbusiness]] [[User talk:Noneofyourbusiness|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:23, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
: Sounds like a good idea to me. [[User:Badwolff|Badwolff]] [[User talk:Badwolff|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:17, May 24, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Re:Citations ==
 
Ok, sorry!. Thank you for letting me know -- [[User:Do Not Move|Do Not Move]] [[User talk:Do Not Move|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:15, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

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Wiki Manager[[edit source]]

Hi Tangerineduel! My name is Playsonic2 and I’m the Fandom Wiki Manager assigned to TARDIS Data Core. I am here to help the community and be a liaison to full-time Fandom staff.

I also happen to be an administrator at the Spanish Doctor Who Wiki, which has me spending considerable amount of time here (adding interlanguage links mostly). I know this wiki wonderfully organised and that CzechOut assists with any technical issues, but if there are ever any issues I could assist with, I would be pleased to help. I will be available on my talk page! ~Playsonic2 09:03, May 20, 2019 (UTC)

Heya! Just here to let you know that Fandom now has an official Discord server and lots of editors are joining. In this blog post at Community Central you can find more information, as well as a server invite link if you wish to join us. There are many editors there, as well as staff members, and a variety of channels. Cheers! Playsonic2 ☎ 07:46, July 11, 2019 (UTC)

BBC[[edit source]]

Hi, thanks for merging the BBC pages. I just finished removing all the links to "BBC (real world)" and deleted that page. User:OncomingStorm12th and I cleaned up the BBC page, so it flows better. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 02:20, June 28, 2019 (UTC)

Mark I Travel Machine[[edit source]]

Hi there. This will be a blast from the past: over ten years ago now you edited AUDIO: Guilt and added a note that the prototype Dalek seen in the story was of the same design (by description and implication) seen in TV: The Daleks. If you remember could you please elaborate on this description and implication as I find it hard to reconcile this fact as the Daleks Davros eventually presented to the world were Mark III Travel Machines and not Mark Is. Thanks in advance. --Borisashton ☎ 12:01, September 21, 2019 (UTC)

About the Deceased category[[edit source]]

A few days ago, I noticed there was no deceased category for this wiki, so I thought I should create one. So I tried, and saw that you had chosen for this page not to be created, as you judged it not useful since all articles were written in the past tense. Of course, a deceased category for a time-travel related series isn't an easy task. Should be put any characters that most likely died of old age in this category ? Personally, I don't think so. In my opinion, if we were to have such a category on this wiki, only the ones whose deaths were either witnessed in the series or seen as absolute (for instance Amy and Rory's), when we know those characters will very most likely never be seen again. Well, they could in some extreme cases, then they will just be removed. So as you probably have guessed by now, I am writing this message to you in order to ask you to re-considerate your decision regarding this category. Of course, in the case where you would accept, I would gladly take care of filling this category myself (i have seen all the new series but not the old ones yet, it's only a matter of time). I will then await for your decision on this matter, With all due respect,

ThePurpleShadow ☎ 13:21, October 27, 2019 (UTC)

Re:Deceased category[[edit source]]

Thanks to your message, I now understand your point of view better. There is indeed a lot I didn't take into account when I thought this category was needed on this wiki. I usually visit wikis and recently have been adding/completing deceased categories on others, like Reborn's for example. So when I saw this one I thought it was missing, and it could have been useful. But now I see why this isn't the case, and I am sorry I bothered you for such a matter. Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to write me a reply that could enlighten me about this wiki,

ThePurpleShadow ☎ 19:15, October 29, 2019 (UTC)

Tardis:User rights nominations[[edit source]]

Hi. As you know, since you left a brief comment there, I've started a self-nomination over Tardis:User rights nominations. I'm not sure how up-to-track you've been keeping yourself around the wiki, but I thought of bringing to your attention that the usual "one week" period for comments has passed, and you might (if you have the time to, of course) weight in if more time's need or something of the sorts. Anyway, thanks in advance. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 23:36, January 31, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw on your "contributions" section that you still show up once in a while. I'm glad to see this. Also, thanks for closing it. Now into new territory. :) OncomingStorm12th ☎ 14:54, February 1, 2020 (UTC)

Left-over vandalism[[edit source]]

Hey. Thanks for dealing with the two vandals just now. As per the restrictions in Tardis:Vandalism policy regarding removal of others' comments may I have your permission to remove all the comments at User talk:Borisashton#Singular they? Thanks in advance. --Borisashton ☎ 15:11, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

I'd like to say thanks too and ask the same regarding my own page. --DCLM ☎ 15:15, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
Thanks. Also, I have no idea how to archive the talk page discussions. --DCLM ☎ 15:48, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Template order[[edit source]]

Oh, it makes sense. Since most of these "small, rectangle templates" usually go on top, I'd assumed it was ended up being moved to the bottom of the page during a bot run, and went sort of unnoticed, but now looking at the page history I realize it was there since day one. Will change it back. Thanks for the heads up. OncomingStorm12th (talk) 16:15, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Just FYI, since you banned them[[edit source]]

User:Dissident Prodigy appears to be a sock puppet User:Unbanned reality talk. The former was created suspiciously quickly after the latter was banned, the names are vaguely similar, and the former’s only contributions are removing messages insulting the latter from his talk page (including that one message about mentioning logical fallacies by name being ‘reddit-tier arguing’, which, if you look at the history, the latter kept trying to remove - obviously it hit too close to home), as well as a supsicious cryptic comment about the ‘shoe [being] on the other foot’ on Shamabala’s talk page. Probably something you should look into. 82.132.220.11talk to me 13:04, February 6, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks[[edit source]]

Thank you for putting an end to User:120.20.195.104's obstruction of the Wikia. It started on the Series 12 page, which admin Shambala108 had to lock because they continued to undo facts. I replied to Shambala on the talk page to do something and they kept counter-arguing it. Then I took to editing other pages, which they then kept undoing, obstructing work. Then I had to report to Shambala108 about it, which they followed and kept trying to argue again, this time going at me with personal attacks. --DCLM ☎ 13:10, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Furthermore they also broke the Tardis:Spoiler policy by naming spoilers outside the series page, specifically on Shambala's talk page. --DCLM ☎ 13:15, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Hopefully, you are right. But I do have my worries that this could continue. And without accusations, I do have slight suspicions that this in itself is a continuation of past actions, as I do remember a user of the past (half a year back or so) who engaged in the same kind of actions with the same motives. --DCLM ☎ 13:31, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

The user is back at again with these removals of sourced material. Could you please take action before this escalates once again? Thank you. --DCLM ☎ 07:37, February 19, 2020 (UTC)

You agree it's unsourced? Cheers! Best to lock the page again so Danny doesn't edit-war. 120.20.172.137talk to me 07:40, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
YOU edit-war because you won't accept the facts as they are. YOU were blocked for this. Not once, but twice. Tangerineduel was easy on you with a one day block, but Shambala made your block longer for these actions. Why can't you take the hint that you are messing the page up by doing this? --DCLM ☎ 07:45, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
You admitted it's unsourced. You agree with me. Thank you! Why can't you read what you say? 120.20.172.137talk to me 07:47, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
"I think you need reading glasses. I didn't agree. I said you removed SOURCED material. Do you never get tired of going against this Wikia? You'll probably end up getting another block. --DCLM ☎ 07:49, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
How's it sourced? Explain to me where it says it's definitely a Christmas special. Also point me to the part where it says it may be completely wrong. If you can't, then I think you need reading glasses. 120.20.172.137talk to me 07:59, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
You tried this once before, remember? Without luck. Oh, and you have no respect for the spoiler policy as you again posted a spoiler where they are not allowed. I'm done with arguing this fact that you can't accept. The admins can take it from here. --DCLM ☎ 08:10, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
Because you won't read the source. Just admit it. You've never opened it. You'll never even mention the bit where it says the source could be wrong. Copy-paste it. I dare you. Bet you won't. Scared of admitting you're wrong. 120.20.172.137talk to me 08:21, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
Read it multiple times, thanks. Still not wrong. Oh, and why would I deliberately break the spoiler policy? --DCLM ☎ 08:29, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
Clearly not. Told you that you won't confirm that I'm right concerning the source. I'm right again? Wow! I'll be back here when it airs before Christmas, just to tell you that I told you so. 120.20.172.137talk to me 08:31, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
The only regrettable thing is that I can't deal with disobedient Wikia-trolls like you myself and I have to pester another poor admin to take care of it because people like you keep coming back for more. Unable to accept things as they are. --DCLM ☎ 08:39, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
Unable to accept sources as they are? Hey, that's you! Won't even accept what it says. Can I make my CV, say that I paid for the whole series since 1963 and put in online? That's a reliable source, yeah? You seem to think so! 120.20.172.137talk to me 08:50, February 19, 2020 (UTC)

Re: UCP and nomination[[edit source]]

Ah, thank you for getting back to me! Yes, that sounds fair. And I have indeed familiarised myself with the UCP on other Wikis; seemed only sensible.

(I don't think it will affect the Wiki too badly, from what I've seen; the only area where I'm worried is the Forum, depending on how we handle the situation. In fact, the option to fill in image file descriptions within the source editor of a page, rather than having to go through Special:Upload ahead of time, even seems like it might help significantly with issues of new users posting images without any licenses or categories.) --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 17:22, September 20, 2020 (UTC)

Well… as you'll doubtless have noticed, we have, now, moved to the UCP, for better or for worse. Will you be able to get back to my case? --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 13:59, September 29, 2020 (UTC)
Thank you very much! (Speaking of replies — you didn't actually reply to my response to your concerns in ==Neutral==; by all means do if there are areas I didn't address/more assurances you feel I should give.) --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 05:48, September 30, 2020 (UTC)
Point of information, I'm not sure we've finished the move to UCP. There are a variety of changes that come with UCP, the change to the forums is only one of them. I'm not sure that this is relevant, as the others aren't necessarily going to change much on an admin front to my knowledge, but it is something to bear in mind. (For instance, we still have "Recent Wiki Activity" on my end, which I'm certainly not complaining about, but shouldn't be the case? So I dunno what's going on, but it doesn't seem to be a full transition to UCP. Again, not sure if this is relevant to pausing the admin nom going forward, as the biggest issue there seemed to be the forums from my limited perspective, but it should be pointed out.) Najawin ☎ 09:10, September 30, 2020 (UTC)
Oh, absolutely! Had you had more to ask I would definitely have posted the answers on the nomination page.
As regards Najawin's message above, I mean, we had the banner announcing we had moved. It may be we are keeping WikiActivity after all as a special favour to one of the Original 100 Wikis? Who knows. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 14:20, September 30, 2020 (UTC)

Admin categories[[edit source]]

Since you moved yourself into a new category on Tardis:Administrators, I'm wondering if some of the admins listed in the "Frequently active admins" category should also be moved (or whether it's incumbent on them to move themselves). I know when I was newer a few months ago the category not quite lining up confused me. Najawin ☎ 21:18, October 2, 2020 (UTC)

Community Connect[[edit source]]

Hey there! Not sure we've spoken much, but I'm Chris - a Wiki Representative at Fandom. Have you heard of an event called Community Connect? It's a Fandom event where news is often revealed about the platform and you get to chat to other admins. It's virtual this year over Zoom or similar but no mic or camera needed. It's 7th + 8th August at 8-12 PT. Is this something you would be interested in attending? I can't guarantee an invite, but I can look into getting one sent to the email associated with your Fandom account --Spongebob456 talk <staff/>

Fandom projects[[edit source]]

Hi! Got a couple of things:

As this wiki used to use Special:Forum, Fandom wants to make sure that old forum links and references aren't cluttering up maintenance special pages (unusedfiles, needed pages etc). Would you mind checking and letting me know asap as to whether that's an issue for this wiki? Just looking for dead links to forums in special pages, or links to images used in forums but are now dead, stuff like that. No need to attempt to cleanup yourself, I just need to know if they exist.

Secondly, did you receive an email sent last week I believe inviting you to The Downstream on September 10th? The email is titled "[The Downstream] Ask Fandom Anything, Social Media Tips, and Data Insights". I just want to confirm you received the email as we know Fandom outreach emails often land in spam.

If you could let me know about both of those things, that would be fantastic. Thanks! --Spongebob456 talk <staff/> 09:43, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

Temporary forums[[edit source]]

Hey! Hope all is well in your neck of the woods. Since you've been away, a new discussion's been going on, with our continuing need for forums to get things done again. As we've been in a transition period for a while, and user:CzechOut's still busy preparing the next stage of evolution, some users have proposed we make space for these necessary conversations.

Would be good to get another eye on this. Do you think you could have a look? It's over at Tardis talk:Temporary forums.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 07:01, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Discussions AbuseFilter[[edit source]]

Hey! A new feature is available on Discussions - Discussions AbuseFilter (DAF). This is designed to be a tool to help moderation on Discussions, if certain behaviours are being disruptive and making manual moderation difficult:

Not compulsory for anyone to use it etc, just letting you know it's here. As a note about forums, I have asked Czech about it and I know he is aware it's still needed. If I can help with anything though, please give me a shout on here or Discord! --Spongebob456 talk <staff/> 20:36, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

Joledex?[[edit source]]

Im not really sure because it has been a while back. Maybe because I wasn't sure about the spelling of the name 08:46, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Admin nomination[[edit source]]

Hi Tangerineduel, just wanted to ping you to let you know that the admin nomination for User:Bongolium500 at Tardis:User rights nominations has passed the one week threshold and is ready for conclusion. Hope you've been well! – n8 (☎) 14:15, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Hey — cheers on closing Bongolium's nomination, but just letting you know that his actual user rights don't appear to have been changed yet? Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 13:32, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Ah, makes sense! Thanks. (This is just why we need Bongolium; I'm no good at the coding stuff…) Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 13:43, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Re:Admin - Welcome![[edit source]]

Thanks for the welcome! Don't worry about the wait: everyone has their busy moments. I look forward to getting started with some of my new responsibilities! Bongo50 ☎ 17:20, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Temporary Forums Are Live![[edit source]]

Hello!

Just wanted to notify you that, User:CzechOut's final deadline of "by New Year's Day" having passed, and following in-depth discussion between myself and fellow admins User:SOTO, User:OncomingStorm12th and User:Bongolium500, we have decided to activate Tardis:Temporary forums, come what may. A sitenotice has been set to inform the community of this development, and I am taking it upon myself to personally update our Administrators on the situation, as well as yourself.

As the name implies, we hope the Temporary Forums will remain — well — temporary. Any work on reactivating proper DPL Forums will still be welcome and appreciated; this system is a further fine-tuning of the setup Bongolium500 had proposed in December 2021, which it means is designed from the ground up to be easy to transfer into the actual DPL Forums if we should get those back in the near future after all.

But it has been multiple years since the Wiki has had a venue for changing policy and forming community consensus on important matters. Bongolium500 and SOTO put forward the first draft of the Temporary Forums a full year ago — and were convinced to retract it by a promise that the real Forums would come ‘very soon’; and here we are. I don't think anyone's at fault; I do think everyone has the Wiki's best interests at heart. But the time has come to realise that the overly-optimistic strategy of endlessly putting off an imperfect temporary solution in pursuit of a perfect one "soon" has failed, resoundingly. It is time for a different approach. The Tardis community are owed a different approach. If you have active DPL Forums to give us, we will take them gladly. But we cannot sacrifice one more promising alternative to a nebulous future possibility which has already proven more difficult to achieve that you'd expected several times over. It is our hope that you can understand respect our decision in this matter.

We four elementals behind the Temporary Forums would like to reassure the rest of the admin team that this necessary step is not intended to create more work for them unbidden. Four are, if it comes to that, plenty enough to keep the peace a Forum with no more than six threads running at a time; we would be thrilled to see the rest of the team embracing the Temporary Forums, but please don't feel any obligation to do so.

Happy New Year, happy editing — and happy contribution to the New Forums!

Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 11:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)

Bot[[edit source]]

Hi, I was wondering if you knew what the process was for an admin to obtain a bot? T:HOW BOT seems geared towards non-admins. I have experience with programming and would like to use a bot to automate certain tasks. Bongo50 ☎ 19:51, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm familiar with the technical process of bot creation. However, all a bot really is is a second account with the bot user group which can only be granted by a bureaucrat so I was wondering what the procedure to obtain this is, if there is a procedure, or if I should just create the account and point it your way for you to add the admin and ot user groups. Bongo50 ☎ 16:16, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. I've created User:Botgo50. If you could assign it the "administrator" and "bot" user groups, that would be great. This is less important to me, but, while you're at it, would you be able to assign my main account "administrator (Semantic MediaWiki)"? I think I'm the only person using SMW at the moment and this group would be useful. Bongo50 ☎ 15:12, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Heads up about the thanks extension[[edit source]]

Hi. I just wanted to give you a heads up that Tardis is testing the "thanks" extension which Fandom will be rolling out to all wikis soon. This extension allows editors to thank other editors for their edits. The editor being thanked will then recieve a notification. Therefore, while you're actively performing edits, you may receieve a few more notifications than normal. If you notice any bugs, pass them onto User:Spongebob456. Bongo50 ☎ 19:59, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Re: Tardis Data Core change to Tardis Wiki[[edit source]]

Did we actually decide to officially change the name? If so, I can run through the Tardis namespace with my bot and get things updated. Bongo50 ☎ 14:44, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

For what it's worth it's not my understanding that "Tardis Data Core" is obsolete. We were, and remain, "the Tardis Data Core Wiki" in full; our old logo abridged this to Tardis Data Core, the new one abridges it to Tardis Wiki. That's my read. But if mileages on this vary too heavily (it seems concerning that out of us three no one is actually sure), we may need a thread to try and gauge what the community actually wants before we do anything drastic either way. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 15:59, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
I actually thought our full name was "Tardis Data Core, the Doctor Who Wiki". Bongo50 ☎ 16:21, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
I agree that a forum thread is a good idea. Does anyone particuarly want to start it? If not, I'm happy to do so within a few days. Bongo50 ☎ 18:36, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
Ah, excellent! Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 10:45, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
Great! Bongo50 ☎ 15:48, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Can you give admin to my bot?[[edit source]]

Hi, I've been running User:Botgo50 relatively succesfully for a while now but it'd be really helpful if it could be given admin, mostly so that it can edit protected pages. Would you be able to do that next time you're arround? Thanks. Bongo50 ☎ 19:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Re: Bot admin request[[edit source]]

Thank you very much! Bongo50 ☎ 15:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Admin+[[edit source]]

Hey there! I’m reaching out to introduce the Admin+ program (if you haven’t heard about it already!) & let you know I’m here if you have any questions about it. Take a look at the details here & feel free to send over any questions you have. pikushi ✧.* <staff /> 20:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Request for help[[edit source]]

Hi! I was wondering if I could get you to look into this issue. For various reasons (which I would be glad to tell you if you wish), I don't feel I am the right person to address this, and I definitely don't think any of the newer admins could help. I feel like this situation is starting to remind me of something from long ago. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 01:42, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

re:Recent edits[[edit source]]

I think I get what you're saying, but I wanted to ask for some clarification. I was always told it is best to leave a reason behind reversions in the edit summaries, but I think your saying to only do so for a limited number of times before taking things to a talk page? BananaClownMan ☎ 11:39, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Since you're on[[edit source]]

Can you block 119.111.220.93‎? It's some random user that will do a ton of vandalism, get blocked, and then come back under a new IP a few weeks later. Najawin ☎ 07:13, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

RE: Wild Blue Yonder Numbers[[edit source]]

Hi there! Hope you are well. Per your response on my talk page, I wanted to check this. So does that mean it is best I leave those pages alone then and leave you and the order admins to sort out the whole merging thing? Looking forward to your reply. Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 11:22, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Re. Financial crisis of 2007[[edit source]]

While I'm not an expert on the topic, it seems to me that the credit crunch was one of the events that followed the financial crisis of 2007; the 2008 credit crunch wasn't the "main" incident. Although "credit crunch of 2008" is stated in dialogue while "financial crisis of 2007" isn't (to the best of my knowledge) it seems misleading to name the page "credit crunch of 2008".

It'd be like if D-Day was named in the DWU but World War II wasn't; it'd be incorrect to name the larger conflict "D-Day", even though in this hypothetical situation that name isn't conjectural while the name of the larger conflict would be.

But then, there easily could be a story that uses the name "financial crisis of 2007" somewhere, which maychave not been documented on the Wiki yet.

13:53, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

RE: Prop delete query[[edit source]]

Hey! Sorry I missed your message; I still haven't adapted to talk page notifications being moved to the bell. It's been great seeing you around more recently, by the way.

At time of writing, the only of my user subpages not related to the Forum Archive is the Five Doctors home media sandbox page, from a project it was ultimately decided in the forums not to proceed with anymore. (Shambala actually added that tag, not me, but I've been holding onto it in case there happens to be a revival in the New Forums.)

The Forum Archive has been on pause for a while due to a number of personal circumstances, and now it's a little stuck until I have access to a personal computer again, unfortunately. Those message-level pages (each message needs its own subpage due to the method of archiving, which meant organising large masses of files by adapting a spreadsheet made from an unrelated output) tagged were found to be spam posts, so the next step will be properly removing them from the final archive subpages before launch.

I should be able to complete those pre-launch steps from a library computer, come to think of it, so I hope to have time for that soon. I do appreciate your reminder!
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 05:27, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Deletions[[edit source]]

Two pages I added and edited were deleted. Kiviniss Ak And Rom Kor-Marisi Were two character editions direct from author Simon Guerrier As listed in the credits. Did I add them incorrectly? Thank you – The preceding unsigned comment was added by BrentSmith66 (talk • contribs) .

Welcome[[edit source]]

Well it's certainly great to have you! I'm glad you made it. I do seem to remember rumblings way back when in my own early days.

I can't imagine it would be fun sticking around with most of our support forked over here. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't sad to leave it behind, as exciting as all these new opportunities are to build the wiki the way we want it!

I'm going to make a concerted effort soon to import missed changes from the 5 or so days we missed during final preparations, by the way. If there's anything in particular you want me to bring over from before you got here, so you don't feel you have to re-do edits, do let me know!

(Incidentally, I've put in a request over at Wikimedia for them to add us to their inter-wikis. Might take a while before that's approved, but I thought it might be of interest, since that seems to be closer to your neck of the woods than mine.)

EDIT: Importing means preserving the edit history, which is generally preferable, but there's also nothing wrong with bringing things back up to date yourself. Especially given they're our own edits.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 05:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Ah, one other thing. As bureaucrats, on the independent wiki we now have access to Special:RenameUser. It really does what it says on the tin. Users might approach you with user rename requests now.
So long as there's nothing against the name in Tardis:Username policy, and the username doesn't already have any registered edits on Tardis, I see no reason not to fulfil them. I have been recommending that users place their old name somewhere visible on their user pages, though, for the avoidance of confusion.
(I've only done one so far. It never once occurred to me before this would be something I'd be doing.)
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 05:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Renaming users[[edit source]]

That is a really good point regarding the potential for abuse. I had only really considered allowing requests from long-term trusted users.
We'll need something in place to prevent user rename requests from being fulfilled that would too closely resemble other well-known users, for one thing... which can be hard to scale when the once-active user they might be confused for is long-gone. (Maybe checking against Special:ListUsers, ordered by edit count, up to a certain point, should be procedure, in case.)
We'll definitely need to lay out clearer policy. Watching out for signs of sockpuppet abuse is another, definitely. I think the first thing I'd lay out is a minimum threshold of time or number of edits with us in order to make the request. Maybe it should be on a public page, like a smaller-scale Tardis:User rights nominations.
A user requesting a name change would have to fill out a template where they confirm they meet the requirements. Maybe we'd allow very small scale changes to the name exactly once even soon after account creation, in the case of typos and such, but then require that they stick with us first.
The one thing I'd like to avoid is blindly approving any request from a user we don't really know. I think we can make it work, though!
(P.S. I brought in Tardis:User talk pages.)
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 06:42, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
It's looking good so far! Do I have your permission to make small changes while it's still in your sandbox?
It might also be good to quickly say that Tardis bureaucrats reserve the right to adjust the minimum number of edits (agreed, amount of time would be a bad idea) as new request data comes in. Please continue editing with us if you haven't met the mark yet! (Making sure to keep to good-faith edits. We probably need to introduce a variant on the GOR rules for hitting edit requirements.)
Also, if we are formally suggesting that new-ish users make new accounts (instead of granting one minor rename request in the first week, which does count in using up their 12 months), we'll have to make clear that they need to declare their old account per T:SOCK, unless they didn't make any edits with us.
Agreed on requirement to declare your old account for 6 months minimum. There should also be something, perhaps a separate page like Help:My rename request was rejected, which makes clear that repeated attempts to log for already-rejected names (or still too similar to them, or during a period when you have no "token") will result in a warning and then a temporarybban. If you've already been rejected, and you're not sure, ask a bureaucrat clarifying questions before submitting a request.
Bongo can probably make us a form with the required inputs, so it automatically creates a new section with syntax for user stats, once we get {{#editcount:USER}} up and running (and a link to a DPL page I can work on building for help finding similar usernames). But it might be worth manually checking.
Officially halting all user rename requests until we have this all set up and worked out.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 06:20, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
(I do also wonder if we should decide what to do in cases where new users have given themselves policy-breaking names like "Tardis admin" or some hate speech. Should we, by course, rename the user to "Permablock--638528", ie. some random string of 6 digits (wouldn't want anyone to see it as a leaderboard, in sequence), in order to remove that vandalism/bothersome claim, after blocking?)
(It seems to me that would be a good idea.)
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 06:53, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! I've gone ahead and made a few relatively minor changes to Tardis:User rename policy, and I've streamlined the request page to make things easier. I also added in the total number of requests a user has made in the section heading (needs to be manually changed from #1 for further requests).

I'm pretty happy with both pages, personally. I've also updated Help:Changing your username now.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 08:27, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Checkuser checks and balances[[edit source]]

On a separate but related note, we also have the ability to grant users (read: ourselves) the checkuser role, which is even more serious.
Bongo suggested — and I agree — that for complete transparency, only when it's absolutely necessary to check for suspected socks, we will temporarily assign that role, perform the check, and then remove it again. Logs of any checkuser scan are also provided to the public, including an admin summary.
I strongly suggest we hold off on this for as long as possible, as we get settled in and update our policies. We need to think deeply about oversight and transparency, now that local policy really does prevail.
If you'd find it helpful, I can also invite you to a space where such things can be discussed with our sysadmins, who laid out our Privacy policy and General disclaimer.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 06:31, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

RE: Thanks[[edit source]]

You're very welcome. Lovely to have you! Aquanafrahudy 📢 🖊️

Bumbling around the new place[[edit source]]

Hello! A bit late, but I’m finding my way around the new digs. I was “surprised-but-not-surprised” when I learned the news of the migration; I certainly have seen enough headaches from arbitrary Fandom diktats to understand the reasons for the decision.

Although I was an infrequent editor and an even more infrequent admin on the old site, it would be nice to retain the admin bit. (Like the Doctor’s “parts” that Cassandra refers to in “New Earth”, it’s nice to have them even if they are “barely used.”)

Please let me know if there is anything I should be aware of about in the change beyond what’s in the general announcements. Thanks! —Josiah Rowe ☎ 19:35, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Ooh, that was quick! Looks like SOTO took care of it without me even asking! Now, that’s service! Never mind me, then. —Josiah Rowe ☎ 19:46, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

"Talking dog"[[edit source]]

Hey, I really do appreciate your going through the proposed mergers lately, but Talk:Talking dog was an ongoing discussion; it wasn't settled that it should be merged. Do please check these things! As you know, it's very tricky to undo a merge that was done in error. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 11:39, 30 August 2024 (UTC)

Unnecessary category redirects[[edit source]]

Hi Tangerine, would you be able to delete Category:4DA Series 9 audio story images and Category:The Fourth Doctor Adventures Series 9 audio anthology images, as they are both unused and unnecessary; only existing because of mistakes whilst moving categories. The source code seems to be locked for them both though, so I can't put a delete tag there myself.

Ta, SID'gingerfool'RAT - ☎🔎 |📂|📝 23:43, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

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