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| == New TARDIS Data Core page: Insurgent == | | Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Star_Beast_(TV_story)?diff=3662903&oldid=3662898 here], where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, [[User:Epsilon the Eternal]] still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, [[Rose Noble]], had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns. |
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| | I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Fifteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3660630 treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Theory:Timeline_-_Fourteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3659912 reverted edits based on actions not yet taken], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3659364 put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656646 indulge in rude wording] [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656310 on multiple occasions] ([https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Solitract?diff=prev&oldid=3641225 even using the name of the Lord in vain]), and engaged in unneeded hostilities [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Fourteenth_Doctor on talk pages]. |
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| Just thought I'd drop you a line to let you know that I've created the page [[Insurgent]] for TARDIS Data Core.
| | I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters. |
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| I'd be grateful if you and the other caretakers could take a look when you get a spare moment, and make any changes you consider necessary.
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| | [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| Many thanks. -- [[User:Freddie R. Aldous|Freddie R. Aldous]] [[User talk:Freddie R. Aldous|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:17, June 5, 2015 (UTC)
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| == New TARDIS Data Core page: Eastchester == | | Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at [[Beep the Meep]]. Wondering if you could help resolve it. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| Hi Shambala108,
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| Just thought I'd drop you a line to let you know that I've created the page [[Eastchester]] for TARDIS Data Core.
| | I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples. |
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| I'd be grateful if you and the other caretakers could take a look when you get a spare moment, and make any changes you consider necessary. | | I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past. |
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| Many thanks -- [[User:Freddie R. Aldous|Freddie R. Aldous]] [[User talk:Freddie R. Aldous|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:44, June 5, 2015 (UTC)
| | I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless. |
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| == New TARDIS Data Core page: Jim Daniels ==
| | I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious. |
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| Hi Shambala108,
| | I think all users can have their issues, and while Epsilon has had a few citations against them in the past, there have been extraneous circumstances around those in some regards. |
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| Just thought I'd drop you a line to let you know that I've created the page [[Jim Daniels]] for TARDIS Data Core.
| | We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| I'd be grateful if you and the other caretakers could take a look when you get a spare moment, and make any changes you consider necessary.
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| Many thanks -- [[User:Freddie R. Aldous|Freddie R. Aldous]] [[User talk:Freddie R. Aldous|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:07, June 5, 2015 (UTC)
| | Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| == Could you clear something up for me? == | | == My "Who vs elsewhere" polls == |
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| I appear to have been blocked across both the English and Welsh Doctor Who Wikis for 'vandalism'. I'm not sure how anything I have done can be construed as vandalism. Moreover, what makes the whole situation more confusing, is that I've neither received a warning nor an explanation nor the opportunity to have a dialogue with those who blocked me. I've logged it in as an issue with the official Wiki people but was wondering whether you could enlighten me as to who did it and for what reason ''exactly''.
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| For the past five-ish years, I've done nothing but help this Wiki grow stronger. And for the past couple of months, I've been putting '''a lot''' of time into making the Wiki correct and also helping the Welsh Wiki grow from twenty pages to a hundred and twenty. I'm providing new and interesting texts for young Welsh people and learners, something which is definitely lacking where that minority language is concerned and to have all my time and effort rewarded with a block is insulting.
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| Please could you help me by providing me with more information? And maybe report back how angry I am with the matter. The lack of communication is unreal and ridiculous. Imagine you getting blocked overnight with no idea what happened and with no-one telling you why?
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| :Is it possible that you blocked me instead of User:Duncs_Kinnear-swift who had vandalised an infobox moments after my edit. I checked his page and you had left him another warning. Could this be the case? And maybe the ban on the Welsh Wiki was because my edit was adding a Welsh language link to the article? :/ [[User:Thefartydoctor|<font color="blue">The</font><font color="silver">Farty</font><font color="red">Doctor</font>]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<small><sup><font color="green">Talk</font></sup></small>]] 19:47, June 7, 2015 (UTC) (thefartydoctor)
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| ::It seems I'm no longer blocked. I can't say I understand what happened but I'm glad it's over. Thanks for all your help and I'll let you know if anything weird happens again. [[User:Thefartydoctor|<font color="blue">The</font><font color="silver">Farty</font><font color="red">Doctor</font>]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<small><sup><font color="green">Talk</font></sup></small>]] 20:17, June 7, 2015 (UTC)
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| == Re: Insurgent ==
| | Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh? |
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| It wasn't until long after I had created the page [[Insurgent]] for TARDIS Data Core that I realized I should have called it 'Insurgent (The Dalek Invasion of Earth)' to differentiate between any other 'Insurgent' characters who may appear in ''Doctor Who'' in the future, and also to allow for an 'Insurgent' disambiguation page to be created at a later date.
| | == Merry Christmas And Happy New Year == |
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| I would be grateful if you and the other caretakers could look into changing the page title accordingly, and apologize for any inconvenience caused. I'll be more careful in future.
| | Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
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| I await your reply with great interest. -- [[User:Freddie R. Aldous|Freddie R. Aldous]] [[User talk:Freddie R. Aldous|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:25, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
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| | Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have [[Help:CheckUser|CheckUser]] access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion! |
| Yes, I know the rules about spoilers, and it was a mistake, and I'm sorry about that. I didn't think about the fact that it would also show up on the "Wiki Activity" page. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:17, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
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| | Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Happy holidays.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 18:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| Didn't know/forgot that only admins can upload videos, is it possible for you to upload the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qIUMVFM7pY&feature=youtu.be as it shows the recent Bernice Summerfield, and it is from the official Big Finish youtube page, so it should violate the other rules as far as I know.
| | : I just wanted to mention that [[User:Spongebob456]] is probably the easiest Fandom staff member to contact for things like this as he's our wiki rep. He's who I've gone to for a few similar requests in the past (which I've done through his Discord but you could probably do through his talk page). [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| '''[[User:AdricLovesNyssa|Adric♥Nyssa]]'''∩''[[User_talk:AdricLovesNyssa|Talk?]]'' 21:47, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
| | :: And that's exactly who I went to, in fact! But no problem at all. |
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| Thanks I have done what you have said. Once you have uploaded I will place it back on the page again. '''[[User:AdricLovesNyssa|Adric♥Nyssa]]'''∩''[[User_talk:AdricLovesNyssa|Talk?]]'' 10:13, June 12, 2015 (UTC)
| | :: Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers{{User:SOTO/sig}} 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| == Re: Moving pages == | | == Spacing with categories == |
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| Sorry about that. I was honestly just trying to be helpful, as it had been over two weeks since you acknowledged the move request. If we're not allowed to move pages, you should be able to block it from happening - I noticed that you can't move pages on [[w:c:marvel]]. I don't know if it's a setting somewhere or if you need to ask Wikia, but it's definitely possible. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|13:34, 15/6/2015}}
| | What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
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| == Connecting a language link == | | == Trying to locate a missing thread == |
| | Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section: |
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| Just a teeny request to link your [[BFX]] page to the Welsh version using the code 'cy'. The page is entitled exactly the same.
| | ''As detailed at [[Thread:264489]], character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.'' |
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| :[[User:Thefartydoctor|<font color="blue">The</font><font color="silver">Farty</font><font color="red">Doctor</font>]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<small><sup><font color="green">Talk</font></sup></small>]] 00:12, June 17, 2015 (UTC)
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| ::You're right, you did do it. I just assumed the request got lost in the Wiki Activity. :P The link works perfectly. Thanks very much!
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| ::[[User:Thefartydoctor|<font color="blue">The</font><font color="silver">Farty</font><font color="red">Doctor</font>]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<small><sup><font color="green">Talk</font></sup></small>]] 02:35, June 17, 2015 (UTC)
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| I recently created a page for Salo Gardner for his appearance in Terminus. I'm not quite sure what to put as the source, as I can only confirm that he was in the story, after meeting him last week and talking to him about filming the story, can you help?
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| | Per some users (anonymous editors) removing it from the page, I began to do some digging as to the thread itself, in preparation for setting myself on the task of shortening down the Doctor articles myself in time, having already began work doing so with the CS links per my conversation with [[User:Scrooge MacDuck]]. In doing so, I discovered you are the one who added said template onto the Doctor articles back in 2020 (see the following link as an example: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Twelfth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3015495 ) |
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| == Re-Tenth Doctor == | | Looking forward to your reply. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| I'll go back over it and add any citations that I missed, but I mostly did add references in the edits. Sorry about the mistake though. [[User:The Fox King|The Fox King]] [[User talk:The Fox King|(talk)]] 05:32, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
| | :On this subject Shambala, it ''does'' still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in [[Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0]], as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at [[User:SOTO/Forum Archive]]. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| I have now re-edited the article and added a reference that I missed. How do you think of it now? [[User:The Fox King|The Fox King]] [[User talk:The Fox King|(talk)]] 05:45, June 20, 2015 (UTC) | | Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits. |
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| Hello Shambala. Lately, I've been trying to figure out how to italicise episode links and am wondering if how you do it is by going to the edit source page, using brackets to locate an episode, and adding two of ' outside the brackets on each side. Is that how it works? Or one way of italicising hyperlinks? [[User:The Fox King|The Fox King]] [[User talk:The Fox King|(talk)]] 02:56, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
| | From what [[User:Bongolium500]] sent me, it appears there's still the intention for the articles to be trimmed down as the template requests, it just seems no one - or very few editors - are actually bothering to do it, hence the templates remaining after 3 and a bit years of its request being placed. Same could be said for the CS link conversion since a mix of editors still use variants of the old format. If the task to do it is still needed though, and hence isn't going to be a waste of my time, I can begin implementing the change. |
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| Thank you. I'll be doing that the next time I try and edit an article and add in citations. Much appreciated! [[User:The Fox King|The Fox King]] [[User talk:The Fox King|(talk)]] 03:25, June 28, 2015 (UTC) | | Thank you once more for responding to me message! [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| I just tried correctly editing the Tenth Doctor article again. Could you please check out my edit and let me know if I did the italicising correctly, Shambala? [[User:The Fox King|The Fox King]] [[User talk:The Fox King|(talk)]] 03:51, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
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| Awesome! Thanks again for the help, and also for the advice you just gave me. I checked out that thread you mentioned and will try my best to operate by it from now on. [[User:The Fox King|The Fox King]] [[User talk:The Fox King|(talk)]] 05:08, June 28, 2015 (UTC)
| | I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
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| There are many characters which are unnamed in the SJA television series but are named in the novelisation. Of some characters first or last names are missing in the TV series which are mentioned in the novelisations. Forexample [[Cashier (Warriors of Kudlak)]] is named "Pam" in the novelisation and [[Randall (Eye of the Gorgon)]] is named "Edith Randall". Can I add a rename tag to these pages (+ there are several more)? If so: is it easyer for you if I use the [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere Special:WhatLinksHere] to move the links or should I just add the rename tag to the pages and let you change the links? Thanks for your help! --[[User:Dynara|Dynara]] [[User talk:Dynara|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:32, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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| :Okay then I'll just add the additional information from the novels and wait with rest until you can tell me more. Anyway thanks a lot for your help! You do a lot for this wikia and have already helped me a lot in the past. I really appreciate that. Thanks. --[[User:Dynara|Dynara]] [[User talk:Dynara|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:14, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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| | Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. [[User:BlueSupergiant|BlueSupergiant]] [[User talk:BlueSupergiant|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC) |
| As much as it pains me to say this, especially when I started out in similar way, but I think the Fox King needs to be blocked on ground of repeated acts of vandalism by adding speculation to canon material, continuously not italicizing story links, and adding links that do not match up to sentences on the [[Tenth Doctor]] page.[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:31, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
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| Best naming practices are defined on this wiki by the intersection of [[Tardis:Valid sources#When the licensor is the BBC|T:VS]] and [[T:CHAR NAMES]]. That means that a more detailed name given in a novelisation is allowed within the ''body'' of an article – so long as the novelised name doesn't contradict the televised one — but that the title of the article should remain at the most recognisable televised name.
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| :See also [[Talk:Miranda (Doctor Who)]]. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 21:20: Sun 21 Jun 2015</span>
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| I'd like to request justification for the removal of my extensive editing of the aforementioned page: it has been reverted to a state which is hugely inaccurate, was written several years ago and therefore needs updating as to dating, and has much speculation and assumption. Being something of an expert on home audiovisual media and home theatre, I struggle to see what was superior about the previous state.
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| I dont noticed that I have uploaded the Video. I only tryed to make it into a Article but than I saw that Im not in the position so I rerolled my edits. I thought it would delete the video too but it doesnt. Sorry. Also, I thought only videos from the BBC, BBC America and the official Doctor Who youtube channel videos must be uploaded, thats why I "deleted" the video.
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| I think I dont make any edits anymore on this wiki because Im quite bad in english (native german).
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| I very like the rules and the design of this wiki, and I sawed that the hebrew Wiki also had it. How can the design also come to the german wiki? I hope anytime soon the german Wiki is so tidy like the english wiki. Sorry, but im not very informed about designs. (I think only admins can change the design, isnt it?)
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| Hi! Just wanted to say Thank You for your assistance removing my contributions to the Wiki. I often forget that input from other people is not wanted here, and mistakenly try to add some bits of information that other readers might find interesting, sorry, my mistake, how silly. I'll try not to participate or make any changes in the future, the Wiki is good enough just the way it is. Cheers! --[[User:Captain Infinity|Captain Infinity]] [[User talk:Captain Infinity|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:40, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
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| * Thank you for your response on my talk page. What I was referring to is that you have reverted every single one of my edits on this Wikia. For the last few you haven't even bothered to include a reason for the revert. I understand that you believe that I am a newbie to Wiki editing but I can assure you this is not the case. I'm well aware of policies and advisory texts, perhaps you have heard of the one called "Please do not bite the newcomers"? I'm sad to say that, were I in fact new to the process, I would find your automatic reverts of every single edit rather discouraging, as I tried to indicate in my first comment. However, since I am very familiar with the habits of deletionists, page-owners and, sometimes, headstrong admins, I plan to keep on trying to improve this Wiki. My efforts may be fruitless, or perhaps you will see this entire paragraph as an personal attack and block me, I don't know. That's up to you. The first thing you posted to my talk page was a welcome message. I have to say, I have not felt welcomed at all. --[[User:Captain Infinity|Captain Infinity]] [[User talk:Captain Infinity|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:43, July 21, 2015 (UTC)
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| == Inter Wiki Project ==
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| Hello, I hope this message find you well. I am hoping to speak to this wiki about a project I am attempting to set up.
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| I am hoping to get editors from wikis to work together to assist each other. I have always felt we should help one another when possible, and that working on other wikis can teach us how to better our own community's. I am trying to set up a project where wiki's assist each other and hopefully everybody involved will be better off (editors and guest alike)
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| This wiki, being one of a well known topic, is one of those wikis that can do a great deal of help. I am hoping this community can assist with one of our projects.
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| [http://answers.wikia.com/wiki/Category%3ADoctor_Who These Questions] on wikianswers are all related to Doctor Who, The Admins on this wiki (me being one of them) have agreed that should a wiki agree to help, any questions they answer or repair can contain a link to their main wiki. This will help them get questioned answered, and it helps you because they not only help the fans, but also link to you.
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| The Project is young, but I am hoping that other wikis, like this one, will join in and help better all wikis. I hope to hear from you soon.
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| Thanks, and happy editing.-[[User:Cheatcodechamp|Cheatcodechamp]] [[User talk:Cheatcodechamp|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:16, July 10, 2015 (UTC)
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| :Thank you, I will pass it onto them. I hope to hear more from you guys soon.-[[User:Cheatcodechamp|Cheatcodechamp]] [[User talk:Cheatcodechamp|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:57, July 12, 2015 (UTC)
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| Hello Shambala108,
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| I am wondering why you deleted my additional information in the story "The Doctor's Wife" The information is accurate and, in the first instance, fleshes out the story a little, in the second, the sentence makes no sense unless "House" rather than "how" is intended, and in the final instance I add pertinent information to one of the sections. You have reversed several of my edits in the last week, do you have something against editing? I would really like to know why you are reversing my edits. I look forward to hearing from you.
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| Bun Get[[User:Bunger|Bunger]] [[User talk:Bunger|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:36, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
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| Hello again,
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| The purpose of the edit has nothing to do with The Corsair. I had a much, much shorter version of the edit and it was deleted and so I keep adding details thinking that must be what everyone wants. The purpose of the edit is to show the continuity of the show and that way back when The Doctor's Wife was produced reference was made to the fact that Timelords can regenerate as either sex. The Master becoming a woman should really be no surprise. This reference to continuity should be in there. Thank you.
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| Bung[[User:Bunger|Bunger]] [[User talk:Bunger|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:04, July 22, 2015 (UTC)
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| Thank you.
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| Bung.[[User:Bunger|Bunger]] [[User talk:Bunger|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:23, July 23, 2015 (UTC)
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| == NEW PAGE: MARTIAN CHESS ==
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| Hi Shambala108, I thought I should tell you that I have created Martian Chess for the data core.Can you please check and see if there are any errors, and if there are, fix them.
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| == FASA ==
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| In the days before the overhaul to the [[four little rules]] approach to defining the scope of the wiki, [[T:CAN]] used to actually try to list every possible thing that wasn't canon. Obviously, this approach was flawed because it instantly made people think we were trying to define "canon". More importantly, though, it forced a great deal of manual revision of [[T:CAN]] as new disallowed items were discovered.
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| However [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Tardis:Canon_policy?oldid=601751 there was indeed a time] when it was explicit that one of the things we didn't allow was "material from FASA's The Doctor Who Role Playing Game and other Role Playing games, as these sometimes contain histories and other information which conflicts with the television and prose stories."
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| For this reason you will sometimes find in the forum archives statements by me and others along the lines of what's in [[Forum:We need a policy on videogames|this thread]]: "...per our canon policy, FASA roleplaying games are flatly disallowed..."
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| Nowadays, we do things precisely the opposite. In the first place, we no longer allow disqualification simply because one thing contradicts another. And in the second, to make the VS policy more "evergreen" and less of a burden to manually maintain, we instead have a ''positive'' list of the things we ''do'' allow. And FASA ain't on it. So, at the most basic level, FASA doesn't count because it isn't on [[Tardis:Valid sources/Detailed list]].
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| But if you're looking for a more substantive answer — and why wouldn't you be? — FASA falls soul of our [[four little rules]]. It's just not a narrative. Much of the stuff written by FASA would be considered "reference material", or at best "factual information delivered in an in-universe way". But there are plenty of examples at [[T:VS]] which show why that can't be allowed.
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| To the extent that there is an ''arguably'' narrative portion of the FASA material, it'd be the two Game Books, which GMs would use to conduct a game. And that's precisely why they aren't narratives, in the sense commonly understood at Tardis.
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| A story is a collection of facts '''that are the same to each person who experiences it''', which allows a person in Zambia and a person in Australia to have the shared experience of knowing ''what events'' happened to ''which characters'' in the narrative.
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| As was pointed out at [[Forum:Doctor Who: Worlds in Time]], ''The Mind of Evil'' happened to Jo, not Sarah.
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| By very stark contrast, RPGs would have us believe that they could happen to any character who is rolled into existence by their player. Thus people playing FASA DW in Michigan would have a different experience of the storyline than those assembled in Wales. The GM conducting the game might allow things that the Game Books don't specify. If you played FASA DW today you'd almost be allowed characters, situations or outcomes that the Game Books didn't contemplate — the stuff of the new series.
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| Put another way, the FASA Game Books are just the bare bones of the experience of that game. The reason you play it, rather than just read the Game Books in isolation from other people, is '''because of''' the inherent variation in the game. And the very lack of being able to say with certainty ''what'' happened to ''whom'' is why FASA Game Books aren't narratives, but narrative ''outlines''. They aren't even the finished script of an episode. They are merely a rough draft into which players pour out their imagination.
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| In short, they are the conduit for '''improvised fan fiction'''. And of course we don't allow that. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 08:12: Fri 24 Jul 2015</span>
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Something you might want to look into[[edit source]]
Hello, User:Shambala108.
Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit here, where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, User:Epsilon the Eternal still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, Rose Noble, had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns.
I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion, reverted edits based on actions not yet taken, put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves, indulge in rude wording on multiple occasions (even using the name of the Lord in vain), and engaged in unneeded hostilities on talk pages.
I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
BananaClownMan ☎ 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at Beep the Meep. Wondering if you could help resolve it. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples.
I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past.
I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless.
I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious.
I think all users can have their issues, and while Epsilon has had a few citations against them in the past, there have been extraneous circumstances around those in some regards.
We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --Tangerineduel / talk 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
My "Who vs elsewhere" polls[[edit source]]
Hello,
Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh?
Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba ☎ 22:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Merry Christmas And Happy New Year[[edit source]]
Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward User:Sum41Champ
Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have CheckUser access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion!
Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Happy holidays.
× SOTO (💬/📈/↯) 18:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I just wanted to mention that User:Spongebob456 is probably the easiest Fandom staff member to contact for things like this as he's our wiki rep. He's who I've gone to for a few similar requests in the past (which I've done through his Discord but you could probably do through his talk page). Bongo50 ☎ 18:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- And that's exactly who I went to, in fact! But no problem at all.
- Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers
× SOTO (💬/📈/↯) 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. User:Sum41Champ
Trying to locate a missing thread[[edit source]]
Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section:
As detailed at Thread:264489, character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.
As you can see though, this link to said thread is red, hence doesn't take me anywhere when I click it.
Per some users (anonymous editors) removing it from the page, I began to do some digging as to the thread itself, in preparation for setting myself on the task of shortening down the Doctor articles myself in time, having already began work doing so with the CS links per my conversation with User:Scrooge MacDuck. In doing so, I discovered you are the one who added said template onto the Doctor articles back in 2020 (see the following link as an example: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Twelfth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3015495 )
Therefore, are you able to provide me information as to the thread itself or link me to the archive where it is stored? I don't want to trouble myself shortening all the articles if this thread has been superceded or reverted, hence does not actually have to be acted upon now. In which case, I could take to removing the templates from the Doctor's articles instead.
Looking forward to your reply. Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- On this subject Shambala, it does still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0, as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at User:SOTO/Forum Archive. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) Najawin ☎ 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits.
From what User:Bongolium500 sent me, it appears there's still the intention for the articles to be trimmed down as the template requests, it just seems no one - or very few editors - are actually bothering to do it, hence the templates remaining after 3 and a bit years of its request being placed. Same could be said for the CS link conversion since a mix of editors still use variants of the old format. If the task to do it is still needed though, and hence isn't going to be a waste of my time, I can begin implementing the change.
Thank you once more for responding to me message! Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. User:Sum41Champ
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. BlueSupergiant ☎ 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
