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== Something you might want to look into ==
* Please don't forget to [[Tardis:Signature Policy|sign your posts]]. I won't answer any post that doesn't have a signature.
* Also, if you are starting a new topic, please add a new heading.
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== Thumbnail ==
Hello, User:Shambala108.


What exactly does "the thumbnail of this image was too indistinct" mean, and why were my images removed for that? ([[User:JMC Red Dwarf|JMC Red Dwarf]] [[User talk:JMC Red Dwarf|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:26, March 16, 2018 (UTC))
Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Star_Beast_(TV_story)?diff=3662903&oldid=3662898 here], where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, [[User:Epsilon the Eternal]] still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because  they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, [[Rose Noble]], had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns.


== Images ==
I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Fifteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3660630 treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Theory:Timeline_-_Fourteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3659912 reverted edits based on actions not yet taken], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3659364 put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656646 indulge in rude wording] [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656310 on multiple occasions] ([https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Solitract?diff=prev&oldid=3641225 even using the name of the Lord in vain]), and engaged in unneeded hostilities [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Fourteenth_Doctor on talk pages].


Hey. uhm, i don't know how to change the file name without them not working. and i didn't specify the size of them [[User:Jantoshipper]] 18:49 17 March 2018
I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters.


== Wikipedia template ==
Thank you for your time.
Hi, your message to [[User:Sam601]] caught my eye and I was just wondering exactly why the wikipediainfo template can't be used on the Doctor pages. Is it because it is written from a real world perspective or because it has less information on it and is considered inferior?
Sincerely,  
[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


If so, would it be okay to put the template on pages like [[The Doctor (The Girl Who Loved Doctor Who)]] since that page contains less information and since the events of that story happen in the "real world?"
== Edit war ==


P.S. On a completely unrelated note when I was typing your name into the search bar I noticed the user pages of the vandalistic accounts [[User:Shambala08|Shambala08]] and [[User:Shambala weighs 2500 pounds|Shambala weighs 2500 pounds]] still existed which you might or might not want to delete. Thanks for your time. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:37, March 25, 2018 (UTC)
Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at [[Beep the Meep]]. Wondering if you could help resolve it. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


== Carvaggio rename ==
== Re:Request for help ==


Hi, I noticed you reverted my speedy rename template back into a rename on [[Carvaggio]]? Just wondering why -- I relistened to that bit from the audio, and it really sounds like "Caravaggio". – [[User:NateBumber|N8]] [[User_talk:NateBumber|☎]] 13:55, April 6, 2018 (UTC)
I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples.


== Avoiding trouble ==
I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past.
Hello, Shambala108, I hope you are doing well.


Listen, I'll cut to the chase. I've been having trouble with an unregistered user on pages [[Ninth Doctor]], [[Rose Tyler]] and [[Martha Jones]] concerning whether the narrator for audios is a valid other voice actor, and removing the invalid Rachel MacFarlene from Rose's page. I've tried to be civil and explain how this wiki does not count narrators as voice actors unless its an in-character narration, but I'm not getting through to them, and I have a dissertation I should really being focusing on. I was hoping that you could step in and give your opinion before this gets out of hand. Don't worry, I'll support whatever decision you come too, as you have a far better understanding about this wiki than I do.
I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless.


I just wanted to let you know before what always happens happens; they'll complain to an admin that I'm being unfair, I'll get blocked for a few months without an opportunity to defend my actions, they'll course trouble and get blocked themselves, and then I'll return and have missed out on editing new articles that I could have helped with. I really don't want that to happen again, especially since I plan to update the Eighth Doctor's psychological profile once my dissertation is done in a month's time, so I'm coming to you first this time to avoid that outcome.
I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious.  


Hope I'm not troubling you,  
I think all users can have their issues, and while Epsilon has had a few citations against them in the past, there have been extraneous circumstances around those in some regards.
Sincerely,
[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:10, April 25, 2018 (UTC)


: UPD. Both users have been blocked for a day for an edit war across several pages. I would not call the behaviour of either of them civil. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:44, April 25, 2018 (UTC)
We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


Why is all my stuff that I'm adding and sourcing constantly being removed and no one else's is , even if I use other people's sources? And why is IMDb not a reliable source but facebook and some random guys from twitter are reliable sources ?
== [[AudioGO]] ==


Sincerely ,
Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Craig Winder @ {{unsigned|Craig Winder}}


== Trap For Fools ==
== My "Who vs elsewhere" polls ==
Hi, just saw your edit on this page and had a quick question. I understand fully that the policy of this wiki is to use double quotation marks, as well as the parts about honourifics, and would have no hesitations were it a section of text that had been come up with by a user. However, in this case it came directly from the summary created by the publisher, word for word, symbol for symbol. Does this policy also cover changing the formatting of officially published information, since technically speaking, what is on the page now is not the official summary, but a slight modification of it.


Just wanted some clarification, thanks for your time. [[User:0003c9fe|0003c9fe]] [[User talk:0003c9fe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:41, May 30, 2018 (UTC)
Hello,


:Thanks for clearing that up, I'll be sure to keep it in mind when doing future summaries (and anything else that is copied). [[User:0003c9fe|0003c9fe]] [[User talk:0003c9fe|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:27, May 30, 2018 (UTC)
Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh?


==Thank you==
[[User:Kevin &#39;Chalky&#39; Kaiba|Kevin &#39;Chalky&#39; Kaiba]] [[User talk:Kevin &#39;Chalky&#39; Kaiba|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
I'm new here and I'm still figuring out the ropes. Sorry and thank you. [[User : Dedicatedlogic|Dedicatedlogic]]


== Thanks ==
== Merry Christmas And Happy New Year ==


Thank you for your message and the explanation, I'm sorry for posting it there!
Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward [[User:Sum41Champ]]
[[User:Mirthetje|Mirthetje]] [[User talk:Mirthetje|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:48, June 26, 2018 (UTC)


== Series 11 ==
== RE: Sockpuppet ==
I've got new information for Series 11. I know it was locked due to recent leaks, but this info is genuine from the BBC's Doctor Who site itself. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:28, June 26, 2018 (UTC)


== 3.2 Removed fanon ==
Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have [[Help:CheckUser|CheckUser]] access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion!


Hey,
Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Happy holidays.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 18:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
You recently deleted an edited page about Beatrice. Why is that?


ReggieAde
: I just wanted to mention that [[User:Spongebob456]] is probably the easiest Fandom staff member to contact for things like this as he's our wiki rep. He's who I've gone to for a few similar requests in the past (which I've done through his Discord but you could probably do through his talk page). [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


== St Michael's Church ==
:: And that's exactly who I went to, in fact! But no problem at all.
Hi, could you remove the prop delete on [[St Michael's Church (real world)]] now? It gathered one reply from a user sharing similar views but its quite an obscure page so I doubt it will attract anymore attention.  


To be honest I don't fully understand why you reinstated it after I removed it saying that they shared no relation. I get that one shouldn't generally remove prop deletes placed by an admin and that you should make a case on the talk page but there was no case to make. It's like merging [[John Hart (The Sea Devils)]] and [[John Hart (Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang)]] because they share a name. Thanks for your time. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:31, July 7, 2018 (UTC)
:: Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers{{User:SOTO/sig}} 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


== SJA narrative trailers ==
== Spacing with categories ==


Hi, I just bumped into these three pages: [[SJA series 1 (trailer)]], [[SJA series 3 (trailer)]] and [[SJA series 4 (trailer)]]. The last one you labelled invalid. Probably, all of them should be treated the same. Should they all be made invalid? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:33, July 8, 2018 (UTC)
What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. [[User:Sum41Champ]]


== Video Trailer ==
== Trying to locate a missing thread ==
I added the video trailer for the audio Hour of the Cybermen to its page. It came from the official Big Finish Youtube channel. Other video trailers on other pages like Order of the Daleks have not been removed, so why was mine? Thanks. [[User:Omega3454|Omega3454]] [[User talk:Omega3454|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:09, July 17, 2018 (UTC)
Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section:


== SJA Warriors of Kudlak ==
''As detailed at [[Thread:264489]], character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.''


Hi there, I was wondering what I did wrong on the edits of [[Warriors of Kudlak (TV story)]].  The changes that I made were reverted without a note of explanation, so I'd like to learn what it was that was done incorrectly. 
As you can see though, this link to said thread is red, hence doesn't take me anywhere when I click it.
Thank you. [[User:Coldraught|Coldraught]] [[User talk:Coldraught|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:22, July 23, 2018 (UTC)


== Demonyms ==
Per some users (anonymous editors) removing it from the page, I began to do some digging as to the thread itself, in preparation for setting myself on the task of shortening down the Doctor articles myself in time, having already began work doing so with the CS links per my conversation with [[User:Scrooge MacDuck]]. In doing so, I discovered you are the one who added said template onto the Doctor articles back in 2020 (see the following link as an example: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Twelfth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3015495 )


Hello! About the demonym page you deleted a few weeks ago: I know generally there must be references from Doctor Who in-universe or out-universe to make an article, but I was based on something actually already in this wiki (the category, https://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category%3ADemonyms). [[User:Dr Von Wer|Dr Von Wer]] [[User talk:Dr Von Wer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:17, October 7, 2018 (UTC)
Therefore, are you able to provide me information as to the thread itself or link me to the archive where it is stored? I don't want to trouble myself shortening all the articles if this thread has been superceded or reverted, hence does not actually have to be acted upon now. In which case, I could take to removing the templates from the Doctor's articles instead.


==Categories response==
Looking forward to your reply. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue">  </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


I positively give up editing here, I'm never going to get anything right! I'm just so tired of screwing this place up, while I'm trying to do right... Okay, I'm done. I'm sorry for messing up the categories and again breaking the wiki's policies. I won't go added categories anymore, since I clearly don't understand them; I'll leave that to other editors. But I really feel as if I should stop editing here. I'm clearly not contributing anything of worth if I'm making this many messes. I just can't deal with the stress and disappointment in myself over messing this wiki up for others with dodgy edit after dodgy edit. My apologies again and I hope I've not made you or any of the other admins mad with me.
:On this subject Shambala, it ''does'' still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in [[Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0]], as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at [[User:SOTO/Forum Archive]]. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


[[User:BelcherMorganJames|BelcherMorganJames]] [[User talk:BelcherMorganJames|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:34, July 29, 2018 (UTC)
Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits.


== Categories ==
From what [[User:Bongolium500]] sent me, it appears there's still the intention for the articles to be trimmed down as the template requests, it just seems no one - or very few editors - are actually bothering to do it, hence the templates remaining after 3 and a bit years of its request being placed. Same could be said for the CS link conversion since a mix of editors still use variants of the old format. If the task to do it is still needed though, and hence isn't going to be a waste of my time, I can begin implementing the change.
Could you be a bit more specific with the issues you have? I'd be happy to explain any queries you have. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:54, August 1, 2018 (UTC)


== The Clocksmith's TARDIS ==
Thank you once more for responding to me message! [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue">  </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


Hi.
== Follow Up ==
I was hoping that I can re-write the Clocksmith's TARDIS page with your permission. I'm asking because the last time it was uploaded it was deleted.
Thank you for your time, I look forward to hearing from you. Hope you can't wait for the new series, I know I can't. --[[User:Saint2|Saint2]] [[User talk:Saint2|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:50, August 4, 2018 (UTC)


It's about British words, I'm using Grammarly and I see the red. If you can, pm me about the British words that are right.
I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. [[User:Sum41Champ]]


== Crossed Lines does exist ==
== Re: Edits ==


Here's my proof <removed per [[Tardis:Video policy]]/>
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. [[User:BlueSupergiant|BlueSupergiant]] [[User talk:BlueSupergiant|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
[[User:ADarthTokuDalek|ADarthTokuDalek]] [[User talk:ADarthTokuDalek|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:15. September 2, 2018 (UTC)
 
== Re-Categories Revisited ==
Sorry for reverting your edit, I just wanted to respond to what you said. Anyway, you said not to remove categories that are in The Game of Rassilon. I was pointing out that I had not removed any categories from the Game, I was only removing redundant categories.
 
Categories I removed:
-Earth Battles
-21st Century Earth-based conflicts
-Dalek Conflicts
-London History
-Human Conflicts
-Cyberman Conflicts
-Torchwood
-The Void
-Battles
 
None of which are in the Game of Rassilon, all of which are super-categories to another category the article is in.
 
The Category: The Battle of Canary Wharf
and
The Category: Conflicts
were the only two I left.
 
I appreciate that you know more than me about the wiki (kinda obvious) but your explanation for the reversion didn't seem relevant, so I assumed you thought I'd removed Conflicts (I hadn't).
 
If there's another reason it shouldn't change, please '''do''' let me know. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:15, September 3, 2018 (UTC)
 
: OK, so what you're saying is that a page with a category in the game of Rassilon should have none of it's other categories removed either? Because the page for Category Conflicts only says not to remove '''that''' specific category from pages. I didn't realise it applied to all categories on that page. Sorry for the confusion. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:37, September 4, 2018 (UTC)
 
:: I think I understand. Those categories I removed weren't redundant because of the ''Conflicts'' category, but because of the ''Battle of Canary Wharf'' category. Some, I noticed, were already redundant because of the ''Category:Battle of Canary Wharf'', and others I decided (perhaps wrongly?) should be moved to this category, rather than page [[Battle of Canary Wharf]]. Perhaps I shouldn't have made this change, but it seemed like an appropriate change based on observation of other similar pages and category pages on the Wiki. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:02, September 4, 2018 (UTC)
 
== Reaching people on Discussions ==
 
Hi, I think we both had trouble reaching some Discussions-only users. They sometimes just seem to completely ignore messages we leave on their talk pages. Well, I've been given an alternative, technological reason for that. Apparently, a user who only uses Discussions through the Tardis/FANDOM app receives no notification of the message left on their talk page, can see the blocking message only for a few seconds while trying to post, and cannot click on links in these blocking messages. In other words, they are likely to be completely in the dark as to what is going on. Upon some testing, it seems that the only way to reach such users is to duplicate the messages that we already left on their talk pages to some of the Discussion threads they participate in. I am planning to start doing this for my own Discussion-based blocks. It would be good if it turns out our messages were not purposefully ignored, but rather never read. "The Times They Are a-Changin'". We better keep up. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:29, September 3, 2018 (UTC)
 
: so, why are there no more comments? {{unsigned|WheeliumThe2nd}}
 
Followup: another way is to give an extended reason for a block instead of writing it on the talk page. The block message shows up (for a short time) when a blocked person tries to post. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:30, September 14, 2018 (UTC)
 
== Move ==
Really sorry about the move, that last one happened so long ago that I couldn't even remember if it was this Wiki that had that policy or another one that I frequented. Guess I should have checked my talk page first. –[[User:Nahald|Nahald]] [[User talk:Nahald|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:42, September 14, 2018 (UTC)
 
: Also in regards to [[Jacques de Requin]]: Thank you for pointing that out; I hadn't realized a redirect had been left behind. No surprise, you're completely right, and I was wrong to use language that could be seen as accusatory! I've removed my comment (and the links). – [[User:NateBumber|N8]] [[User_talk:NateBumber|☎]] 00:45, September 17, 2018 (UTC)
 
== Spouse category ==
Hi! On the advice of [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]], I thought I'd reach out to you before I get too far into it.
 
I've started work on [[:Category:Spouses]] and think it would be a great addition to the wiki. Many individuals have been married and I believe that it would be a helpful line of inquiry. Also, [[:Category:Spouses of the Doctor]] already exists as a precedent. Your opinion on the matter would be much appreciated and I look forward to hearing from you. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:38, September 16, 2018 (UTC)
 
== Inclusion debate post edit ==
I was really surprised to see [https://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Board_Thread:Inclusion_debates/@comment-4028641-20170322025232/@comment-4028641-20180918014242?curid=237666&diff=2550374&oldid=2549990 this edit], since I didn't think those lines broke any rules. What rule did the removed excerpt break? (For the record, I don't intend to challenge or disagree with you; I just want to make sure I won't make the same mistake.) – [[User:NateBumber|N8]] [[User_talk:NateBumber|☎]] 03:39, September 19, 2018 (UTC)
 
== Unbound TARDISes ==
 
Hi, I was wondering if it would be alright to write and publish pages on the TARDISes used by some of the Unbound Doctors? I'd like to hear your opinion. Thank you. --[[User:Saint2|Saint2]] [[User talk:Saint2|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:05, September 21, 2018 (UTC)
 
== Whittaker's story ==
Hi. I found this article with Jodie Whittaker. I was wondering where to put it.
No spoilers are revealed, so I don't think you can classify it as a spoiler.
http://m.ign.com/articles/2018/09/24/doctor-whos-jodie-whittaker-what-being-the-doctor-means-to-me-ign-first
--[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:47, September 24, 2018 (UTC)
: I was merely unsure where to put it and if it was relevant. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:58, September 25, 2018 (UTC)
 
== Adam Adamant Dies! ==
 
Sorry about the Adam Adamant Lives! page. I only made it because it was listed on the 'wanted pages' list.{{Unsigned|BeeblePete}} [http://twitter.com/BeeblePete Twitter: @BeeblePete] 17:16, September 30, 2018 (UTC)
 
The first edition of Ahistory is now out why was my contribution removed again?
 
The first edition of Ahistory is now out why was my contribution removed again?
 
==File:When he was a woman==
Hello! As you know, participating in the ''Prounoun Use for Time Lords'' discussion, I uploaded the file ''When he was a woman.png'' to illustrate a point. I had it properly licensed. I'll admit that it was over 300Ko <small>(Though honestly, that is a woefully outdated policy for the Wiki to have; last time it was discussed in 2014 it was determined that it still had justification, but in 2018? ''Come on.'' And it was extremely difficult for me to get this file, or the Jim Broadbent one, under that draconian limit on my computer, for the record.)</small>, something I have now corrected, but your editing reason mentioned ''several'' policy violations and I couldn't figure out what the others might be.
 
Also, as a sort of P.S.: isn't it a bit harsh to delete the files without warning in such cases? It's not a matter of license violation — the Tardis Wiki isn't in ''legal'' trouble for having them around — so might I suggest forewarning the user when possible? It's lucky I still had the files around on ''my'' end, but I very well might have deleted them from my hard drive by the time I learned you'd deleted them here, and then they'd have been lost. Rendering the relevant post on the ''Pronoun Use'' thread nigh-incomprehensible, too. (This is just a remark! Perhaps you have perfectly good reasons. But from an outsider's perspective, I just want to note that it looks weird and kind of barbaric.)--[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:58, October 2, 2018 (UTC)
 
"This image cannot be changed without community discussion." It said it can be changed starting from 2012.--[[User:Looperreallyreallysucks|Looperreallyreallysucks]] [[User talk:Looperreallyreallysucks|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:30, October 4, 2018 (UTC)
 
Hello there! I would totally love creating fanfiction pages on this wiki! I don't want to use the Doctor Who Fanon Wiki, as their infoboxes are plain, and I would like to use this wikis infoboxes. You could make a fanfiction portal where there's noting but fanfiction. Please? For example, someone could make a new fanfiction page, (Fanfiction: The Doctor).
 
Thanks for your time.
 
==Upper Canada Village==
Reverting my edit to add a link to explain what [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Canada_Village Upper Canada Village] is seems pretty daft, but I defer to your longer experience in this wiki vs. mine in Wikipedia.  You might consider copying the Wikipedia article to eliminate the redlink. [[User:PKT|PKT]] [[User talk:PKT|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:20, October 15, 2018 (UTC)
 
 
Hi, I got your message with the thread to look up regarding uploaded images. The email you sent me doesn't have a working link to that the thread and I've been unsuccessful so far in finding that discussion thread on Tardis wiki. Could you try giving me that link again or point me toward where to find what you wanted me to review?
 
Thank you.
[[User:Esparza3368|Esparza3368]] [[User talk:Esparza3368|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:32, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
 
==Banned on Xx-Connor-xX==
Why have I been banned on my main account? And why am I unable to message you on that one? It is ridiculous. I changed one thing, I didn’t “edit war”. Someone removed the fact that Yasmin was Pakistani from a page, it had long since been established that she was Pakistani and as such I put the information back and asked why it had been removed (it was not information solely related to today’s episode). I was told the information shouldn’t be added until on the hour, and as such I readded the information after 8pm. This is seriously not legitimate grounds for a three month ban. Madness. [[User:ConnorNew|ConnorNew]] [[User talk:ConnorNew|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:46, October 21, 2018 (UTC)
 
== RE: Question ==
Hey there. As far as I am aware, no. Yes, racial slurs were mentioned ("negroe", "Paki" and so on) but - as best as I can recall - no one in the episode said "black people" or "white people". Ryan was even called "your kind" by Krasko, a complete avoidance of the term "black people". Although, the sides on the bus indicated "white" and "color" - whether that warrants the page remains unclear to me; certainly the "Black people" page would be more accurate if called "Coloured people" based on that source. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue">  </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 00:43, October 23, 2018 (UTC)
 
== RE: New pages ==
 
Thank you for your explanation as to why you removed my articles. I am fairly new to the wiki and wikis in general and was trying to help out with the addition of information after the new episode by creating a few pages.
 
I was aware of the no real-world rule and attempted to present the article as a real-world account of "Black people" and "White people" as a social class.
 
While I cannot remember the precise usage of the term "black" in "Rosa" or in other DWU stories, it is a term that has been used before as I believe Bill thought she'd be too "black" for Regency Era London.
 
The same is true for "White people." During the episode there are several references to "white-only" facilities, and the concept is mentioned in other stories, such as when Clyde Langer refers to his hand not being white.
 
As for needing a source for white people having lighter skin and black people having darker skin, I don't know if I'm quite getting the objection. Characters who are labelled as black are played by darker-skinned actors than those who are labelled white. I cannot source this being explicitly stated, but the Adipose are also described as being Marshmallow-shaped, and I don't think that was explicitly mentioned in their stories: it, too, is an inference from what is seen on-screen.
 
I made the pages under the name after seeing hyperlinks to them that did not exist created by other users, and created a few links to the not-yet existing articles myself. In accordance with plural vs singular policy, I have no objection if they were to be renamed "Coloured people," "Coloured person," "Coloured," "Black person," or "Black (race)", and "White person" or "White (race)", but I'm not sure if I see the need for outright deletion.
 
Thanks for your time and sorry if this got a bit ramble-y. I appreciate that it's always a bit contentious making articles that address DWU topics that exist in the real world that are controversial due to racism etc. --[[User:Princess Eska|Princess Eska]] [[User talk:Princess Eska|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:25, October 23, 2018 (UTC)
 
== Short stories short comment ==
 
Hi, I somehow started editing a bit in short stories, where you are the expert. Thought I'd mention that if I accidentally break something, it's probably because I don't have the whole picture, only look at some stories and often just parts of them. Please feel free to turn things back in such cases. (And my god if there isn't a lot of useful info in short stories.) [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:00, October 30, 2018 (UTC)
 
==Torchwood Novels and Audio template==
 
Hi there, Shambala,
 
Hope you are well; I just wanted to draw your attention to the current Torchwood Novels and Audio Template ([[Template:TorchwoodNovelsandAudio|Here]]). For me, some of the text is unreadable. Also, I believe that there are too many 'child' navboxes.
 
I have created a (what I believe is an improved) prototype, which splits the stories into Novels, Audio, and Big Finish Audio, since Big Finish has tons of stories already!
 
These can be found at my sandbox ([[User:Layton4/Sandbox|Here]]), and I was hoping you would be able to check over and hopefully use these as new templates? If all is okay with you, and my templates are approved, I don't mind going to each individual story and replacing the outdated one?
 
Thanks so much for your time,
Warm regards, <span style="border:5px ridge #FADB00;background-color:#FADT00;"> [[User:Layton4|<span style="color:red">'''Lay'''</span>]][[User Talk:Layton4|<span style="color:green">'''ton'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Layton4|<span style="color:blue">'''4'''</span>]] - 22:14, 6/11/2018</span>
 
== Unsourced ==
 
oh well, i refer to wikipedia and to a tweet by Colin Baker, and there are many opther sources you can find, and you blame me for not naming my source, Seems tom me i am completely wrong in this wiki... Do i have to understand this ?!? --[[User:Rübenbrei|Rübenbrei]] [[User talk:Rübenbrei|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:12, November 12, 2018 (UTC)

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Something you might want to look into[[edit source]]

Hello, User:Shambala108.

Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit here, where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, User:Epsilon the Eternal still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, Rose Noble, had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns.

I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion, reverted edits based on actions not yet taken, put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves, indulge in rude wording on multiple occasions (even using the name of the Lord in vain), and engaged in unneeded hostilities on talk pages.

I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters.

Thank you for your time. Sincerely, BananaClownMan 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Edit war[[edit source]]

Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at Beep the Meep. Wondering if you could help resolve it. Jack "BtR" Saxon 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Re:Request for help[[edit source]]

I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples.

I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past.

I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless.

I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious.

I think all users can have their issues, and while Epsilon has had a few citations against them in the past, there have been extraneous circumstances around those in some regards.

We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --Tangerineduel / talk 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

AudioGO[[edit source]]

Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. Jack "BtR" Saxon 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

My "Who vs elsewhere" polls[[edit source]]

Hello,

Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh?

Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba 22:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Merry Christmas And Happy New Year[[edit source]]

Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward User:Sum41Champ

RE: Sockpuppet[[edit source]]

Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have CheckUser access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion!

Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Happy holidays.
× SOTO (💬/📈/) 18:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I just wanted to mention that User:Spongebob456 is probably the easiest Fandom staff member to contact for things like this as he's our wiki rep. He's who I've gone to for a few similar requests in the past (which I've done through his Discord but you could probably do through his talk page). Bongo50 18:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
And that's exactly who I went to, in fact! But no problem at all.
Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers
× SOTO (💬/📈/) 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Spacing with categories[[edit source]]

What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. User:Sum41Champ

Trying to locate a missing thread[[edit source]]

Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section:

As detailed at Thread:264489, character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.

As you can see though, this link to said thread is red, hence doesn't take me anywhere when I click it.

Per some users (anonymous editors) removing it from the page, I began to do some digging as to the thread itself, in preparation for setting myself on the task of shortening down the Doctor articles myself in time, having already began work doing so with the CS links per my conversation with User:Scrooge MacDuck. In doing so, I discovered you are the one who added said template onto the Doctor articles back in 2020 (see the following link as an example: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Twelfth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3015495 )

Therefore, are you able to provide me information as to the thread itself or link me to the archive where it is stored? I don't want to trouble myself shortening all the articles if this thread has been superceded or reverted, hence does not actually have to be acted upon now. In which case, I could take to removing the templates from the Doctor's articles instead.

Looking forward to your reply. Snivy The coolest Pokemon ever 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

On this subject Shambala, it does still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0, as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at User:SOTO/Forum Archive. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) Najawin 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits.

From what User:Bongolium500 sent me, it appears there's still the intention for the articles to be trimmed down as the template requests, it just seems no one - or very few editors - are actually bothering to do it, hence the templates remaining after 3 and a bit years of its request being placed. Same could be said for the CS link conversion since a mix of editors still use variants of the old format. If the task to do it is still needed though, and hence isn't going to be a waste of my time, I can begin implementing the change.

Thank you once more for responding to me message! Snivy The coolest Pokemon ever 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Follow Up[[edit source]]

I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. User:Sum41Champ

Re: Edits[[edit source]]

Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. BlueSupergiant 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)