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| | == Something you might want to look into == |
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| == T:NPA ==
| | Hello, User:Shambala108. |
| Hi Shambala, I saw your recent post in [[Thread:260549]] and noticed it seems to contain an inaccuracy. You said “on this wiki, it is up to the admins to decide matters of ... personal attacks”, whereas the actual policy on [[T:NPA]] specifies that “If you are personally attacked, you should ask the attacker to stop and note this policy”, and it is only if the attacks continue that you should “contact an Administrator and clearly state the problem” so that “the admin will evaluate the situation and attempt to mediate the issue.” Unless I’m severely misunderstanding the letter of the law, this means that personal attacks are not decided by the admins but by the attacked person, and it is only at their request that admins should get involved. This is standard policy across many wikis.
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| I hope you’re well! – [[User:NateBumber|<span title="User:NateBumber">N8</span>]] ([[User_talk:NateBumber|<span title="Leave me a note">☎</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/NateBumber|<span title="Spy on my edits">👁️</span>]]) 17:36, January 9, 2020 (UTC) | | Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Star_Beast_(TV_story)?diff=3662903&oldid=3662898 here], where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, [[User:Epsilon the Eternal]] still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, [[Rose Noble]], had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns. |
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| : When you get the chance, could you let me know if my reading of this is correct? If this is a place where the policy-as-written is out-of-date or wrong, it would be very useful to get it clarified. – [[User:NateBumber|<span title="User:NateBumber">N8</span>]] ([[User_talk:NateBumber|<span title="Leave me a note">☎</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/NateBumber|<span title="Spy on my edits">👁️</span>]]) 15:43, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
| | I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Fifteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3660630 treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Theory:Timeline_-_Fourteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3659912 reverted edits based on actions not yet taken], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3659364 put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656646 indulge in rude wording] [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656310 on multiple occasions] ([https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Solitract?diff=prev&oldid=3641225 even using the name of the Lord in vain]), and engaged in unneeded hostilities [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Fourteenth_Doctor on talk pages]. |
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| Thank you for the clarification! In answer to your "Hopefully," if I had to pick between Universe A where admins protect me from being accused of violating T:NPA, and Universe B where my statements of personal offense are respected by all parties regardless of admin approval, I would vastly better prefer Universe B. But it seems that the policy maintains a tidy balance between the two. Cheers! – [[User:NateBumber|<span title="User:NateBumber">N8</span>]] ([[User_talk:NateBumber|<span title="Leave me a note">☎</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/NateBumber|<span title="Spy on my edits">👁️</span>]]) 16:05, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
| | I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters. |
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| == User pages reply ==
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| Can I ask why this request is being made. To my mind, the "conjecture" tag is being used for its intended purpose. [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:44, January 10, 2020 (UTC)
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| | [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| ==[[Vworping]]== | | == Edit war == |
| Isn't the present tense of a verb also useable as a noun? If there is no page shouldn't this redirect to a section about the use of the verb?
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| TBH it was something I was unaware of til I watched with closed captions closely to Spyfall, but then to find out it is the namesake of [[Vworp Vworp!]] in 2010 makes me feel very ignorant for the last decade. [[User talk:Tycio|talk2ty]] 16:08, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
| | Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at [[Beep the Meep]]. Wondering if you could help resolve it. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| == Discussion policy == | | == Re:Request for help == |
| Hi there. I must confess your post on [[Thread:260549]] citing [[Tardis:Discussion policy]] to me left me a bit confused. I might just be being an idiot but I'm honestly not sure how to stay on-topic to the thread by addressing [[User:Amorkuz]]'s concerns when both of his most recent posts seem to be in direct violation of [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]] which is in turn cited at T:DISCUSS. It would be much appreciated if you could enlighten me as there are clearly things I do not know yet. Pleasure speaking to you as always and thanks in advance. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:20, January 11, 2020 (UTC)
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| : I can appreciate the sentiment of your reason for removing my last comment but I wonder if it was helpful to Amorkuz. If Amorkuz didn't see SOTO's message, as I assumed since SOTO's was the immediately preceding post, then I feel like I was in fact helping Amorkuz so he could edit or remove his response addressing ''Eloquence''. As an admin, would you mind posting a message to that effect to clear up any confusion? Thanks, --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:24, January 12, 2020 (UTC)
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| == RE:Talk pages ==
| | I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples. |
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| Hi. Okay, will do. Thanks. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:32, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
| | I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past. |
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| ==Plot summaries vs. character biographies==
| | I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless. |
| Considering the thread was sparked by your own post in the "''To-do list''" on the Forums, I invite you to please weigh in at [[Thread:264489]] whenever you find the time. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:12, January 13, 2020 (UTC)
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| == 1.3 HTML tidying ==
| | I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious. |
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| Tried posting the link below on facebook as a friend gad mentioned watching Carnival of Monsters. But comes up with a 404 error. Suspect it might be the exclamation mark within the URL.
| | We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| == Vanishing infobox == | | Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| The issue is resolved now, but at the time it wasn't displaying any variables, just the name itself. It seems to have had something to do with the spaces, which might have been non-breaking spaces (or something similar), that MediaWiki just won't recognise. I replaced the spaces between the variable names and the equal signs manually [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Vanishing_Tales_of_the_City_(novel)?diff=2835232&oldid=2835231 in this edit], and all the information popped up again.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 05:24, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
| | == My "Who vs elsewhere" polls == |
| :Yeah, that was very, very strange. Now we know what to do if it crops up again, though. :){{User:SOTO/sig}} 05:45, January 19, 2020 (UTC)
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| == Admin nomination ==
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| Hello. As of my time of writing, you're the admin to have edited a page. This message is a request to make a thread/announcement that I've put myself foward for [[Tardis:User rights nominations#OncomingStorm12th|Admin nomination]], [[Thread:214698|like there was for the last time there was a nomination]]. Also, I'd very much look foward to your comments on the matter, of course. Anyway, thank you in advance [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:26, January 22, 2020 (UTC)
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| == Howling ==
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| Hey. Could I ask you to revisit [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Howling:Series_13_(Doctor_Who) this page]. I've added some new information and would like your opinion on it. Thanks --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:46, January 23, 2020 (UTC)
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| I'm sorry do you have an issue with my images, they are real they were taken in April 1983 at Longleat House,
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| ==Gereld/Gerard Carey==
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| Hi Shambala, just wanted to direct your attention to two pages which I think need sorting. I was going to put a message on the 'talk page', but I thought it would be quicker to write hear so it has your attention.
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| In the Torchwood TV story [[Meat (TV story)|Meat]], there is character named [[Greg (Meat)|Greg]] who is portrayed by an actor credited by [[Gereld Carey]]. In [[From Out of the Rain (TV story)|From Out of the Rain]], there is a character named Greg who is portrayed by an actor credited by [[Gerard Carey]].
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| After having done some research, 'Meat' actually credits the actor as 'Gerard Carey' and not 'Gereld Carey'. Also, there was no such character named 'Greg' in 'From Out of the Rain', and is probably just a credits mistake.
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| I was just wondering if we would be able to delete the page known as [[Gereld Carey]] (since this name is never used in any credit), change the role on the 'Gerard Carey' page, and put a note in the page for 'From Out of the Rain' which states that the character has been 'double-credited'. Sorry if this is all really confusing - it took me a few moments to establish what was going on! I would have done this all myself, but wanted to confirm with you first. I am more than happy to make the changes, but just wanted your opinion first. Thanks again! <span style="border:5px ridge #FADB00;background-color:#FADT00;"> [[User:Layton4|<span style="color:red">'''Lay'''</span>]][[User Talk:Layton4|<span style="color:green">'''ton'''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Layton4|<span style="color:blue">'''4'''</span>]] - 22:09, 28/1/2020</span>
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| I have made a box to link to other wiki's of popular tv series. Would you like to place it on your main page so we can direct people to each others wiki's?
| | Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh? |
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| [https://gilmoregirls.fandom.com/ Gilmore Girls] ☆ [https://marriedwithchildren.fandom.com/ Married with Children] ☆ [https://nurses.fandom.com/ Nurses] ☆ [https://planetoftheapes.fandom.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_Wiki Planet of the Apes] ☆ [http://relichunter.fandom.com/ Relic Hunter] ☆ [http://sinterklaas.fandom.com/nl/ Saint Nicholas and Black Pete] ☆ [https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/ Star Trek] ☆ [https://sweetvalleyhigh.fandom.com/ Sweet Valley High]
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| == Violent behavior ==
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| Hey Shambala. Could you please take a moment to look into [[User:86.12.165.34]]. Their behaviour on the Wikia is highly inappropriate and they have even launched a personal attack on me. It would be appreciated. Thanks. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:47, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
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| ::Another user, [[User:Unbanned reality talk]], is refusing to abide by the rules of the Wikia too, and seem to be leaning towards hatred towards a certain area of society. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:54, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
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| :::Hello, this is Shambala. I would just like to say how dare you? How dare you question [[User:86.12.165.34]]? She is a great contributor to this wiki, as well as really cute and cool and funny and intelligent. You may show yourself out. Thanks for the tip on [[User:Unbanned reality talk]] though, will ban them soon. {{Unsigned-anon|213.123.3.40}}
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| ::::That first bit is a joke right? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:47, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
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| :::::The shoe is on the other foot. [[User:Dissident Prodigy|Dissident Prodigy]] [[User talk:Dissident Prodigy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:28, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
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| No. It’s real. Get off my talk page. {{Unsigned-anon|213.123.3.40}}
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| :Stop pretending to be Shambala108. You are an unregistered Wikia contributor. Actually I think it's illegal to pretend to be someone else. I HAVE seen who is writing these messages, don't pretend. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:54, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
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| :Hello Shambala. No need for action anyway, as [[User:Tangerineduel]] was quick to step in and deal with the situation. Including the person pretending to be you just above. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:27, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
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| Based on the above conversation, their edit histories, and [[User talk:213.123.3.40]], I think it's quite likely that [[Special:Contributions/213.123.3.40|213.123.3.40]] (now banned) is the same user as [[Special:Contributions/86.12.165.34|86.12.165.34]], who was temporarily banned in 2018 but is now still unbanned. – [[User:NateBumber|<span title="User:NateBumber">N8</span>]] ([[User_talk:NateBumber|<span title="Leave me a note">☎</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/NateBumber|<span title="Spy on my edits">👁️</span>]]) 20:19, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
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| :I think that is correct. "213.123.3.40" was banned for sock-puppetry. And I think there was somewhere else where they explicitly stated they were the same. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:41, February 5, 2020 (UTC)
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| == Just FYI, since you banned them ==
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| [[User:Dissident Prodigy]] appears to be a sock puppet [[User:Unbanned reality talk]]. The former was created suspiciously quickly after the latter was banned, the names are vaguely similar, and the former’s only contributions are removing messages insulting the latter from his talk page (including that one message about mentioning logical fallacies by name being ‘reddit-tier arguing’, which, if you look at the history, the latter kept trying to remove - obviously it hit too close to home), as well as a supsicious cryptic comment about the ‘shoe [being] on the other foot’ on this very talk page. Probably something you should look into. [[Special:Contributions/82.132.220.11|82.132.220.11]]<sup>[[User talk:82.132.220.11#top|talk to me]]</sup> 13:03, February 6, 2020 (UTC)
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| == Continued obstruction of the Wikia ==
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| Hi Shambala. I was wondering if you could take action against [[User:120.20.195.104]]? They are obstructing the work on the Wikia because of bitterness at being corrected on the S12 page. Specifically my work. And thus preventing the Wikia from properly working. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:01, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
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| :Aw, shucks. Respond to the talk page. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.195.104|120.20.195.104]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.195.104#top|talk to me]]</sup> 12:03, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
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| ::And further they're also actively attempting to engage me to continue an argument that I ended because I can't keep debunking the same over and over. Simply look at the obstruction they are doing. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:08, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
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| :::Can't debunk the fact that the <nowiki><redacted per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]></nowiki> . Nice. Thanks for admitting that. Goddamned Danish people, can't even speak English. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.195.104|120.20.195.104]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.195.104#top|talk to me]]</sup> 12:09, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
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| ::::The evidence speaks for itself. Spoiling facts on other pages and personal attacks too. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:12, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
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| :::::How's it a spoiler when ''the Series 12 article literally includes this information''? Go remove it then. <nowiki><redacted per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]></nowiki>. Fuck sake. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.195.104|120.20.195.104]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.195.104#top|talk to me]]</sup> 12:13, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
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| ::::::[[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]. Go read it. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:14, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
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| :::::::<nowiki><redacted per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]></nowiki> Go add it. [[Special:Contributions/120.20.195.104|120.20.195.104]]<sup>[[User talk:120.20.195.104#top|talk to me]]</sup> 12:16, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
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| ::::::::Never mind. [[User:Tangerineduel]] took care of it. Thanks anyway. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:17, February 9, 2020 (UTC)
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| I'd like to say thank you for this, even though it was mostly removal of the spoilery content. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:14, February 9, 2020 (UTC) | |
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| Hey there. Can you point me in the direction of the policy you cited at [[Talk:The Doctor in popular culture and mythology]]? I remember reading it but after a quick look I was unable to find it. Thanks in advance for the help, --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:59, February 14, 2020 (UTC)
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| : Thanks for that. As the "one image per section" rule is actually a guideline would you be opposed to me re-adding a few images to some of the sections; perhaps three or four in [[The Doctor in popular culture and mythology#As a real person|As a real person]] and one in [[The Doctor in popular culture and mythology#Reputation as a renegade|Reputation as a renegade]]? One reason for this is wall-of-text syndrome. Certainly in the first example, you go a long time without anything but paragraphs of text.
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| :: Since [[User:BananaClownMan]] has now expressed confusion/dislike (I don't know, I couldn't find their block appeal so a link would be helpful) of this guideline a reply to this query would be helpful if you have the time. The "problem" has become consdiderably more dire since I last wrote. Thanks again, --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:23, March 22, 2020 (UTC)
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| == A Stitch in Time ==
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| On the page A Stitch In Time (CC Story)), it seems the editor seemingly misplaced a picture with a Comic Cover of Episode 2. I don’t think this is vandalism. It’s probably just a mistake by the editor of the article.[[File:MisplacementAStitchInTime.jpeg|thumb]]
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| Hey, it's all cool. I noticed that you had restored the info and them went a bit without moving forward on deleting the others, so I assumed something of the sort had happened. :) [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] ([[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|talk]]) 00:36, February 27, 2020 (UTC)
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| == Research on Fandom Wikia ==
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| Hi, I am conducting research on user activity on fandom wikia. I am trying to get responses from as many people from the fandom community as possible so is there a way to spread this survey as much as possible. The survey is quick and completely confidential and it would be extremely helpful if you could take the time to fill it out through the attached link below.
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| == Morbius Doctors ==
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| I have left an answer to your message at [[Talk:The Doctor (The Brain of Morbius)]] about which I'd quite like your opinion. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:53, March 1, 2020 (UTC)
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| == Personal attacks ==
| | [[User:Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba|Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba]] [[User talk:Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC) |
| I'll ask you to avoid making personal attacks. It's very unprofessional of you as an admin, constantly asserting bad faith. It makes it really hard for the wiki to feel like a safe place to be. :/// [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]][[User Talk:OttselSpy25|🤙☎️]] 01:03, March 2, 2020 (UTC)
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| | Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
| Hi Shambala108, just wanted to give you a ping that I've responded on [[User talk:OttselSpy25#Re:Personal attacks]]. – [[User:NateBumber|<span title="User:NateBumber">N8</span>]] ([[User_talk:NateBumber|<span title="Leave me a note">☎</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/NateBumber|<span title="Spy on my edits">👁️</span>]]) 13:16, March 4, 2020 (UTC)
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| == The Old Man and the Teenage Girl == | | == RE: Sockpuppet == |
| I would respectfully disagree that those redirects are "unlikely to be searched for". We can't have the pages be named [[Iphigenia (Beige Planet Mars)]] and [[Forty-second Doctor]], because those identities were given off-page in reference material; but these identities are clearly the main reason a fan would want to check out the pages. There exist rumors of Parkin's deleted 42nd Doctor from ''The Dying Days'' at least, and it is very easy to picture someone typing "Forty-second Doctor" in the search bar, finding nothing, and assuming we have no record of this character all on the Wiki, when in fact we do, just under the name of [[Old man (Beige Planet Mars)]] because the character's name hasn't been confirmed in a valid source. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:15, March 15, 2020 (UTC)
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| | Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have [[Help:CheckUser|CheckUser]] access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion! |
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| [[User:邢家朋|邢家朋]] [[User talk:邢家朋|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:42, March 17, 2020 (UTC)
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| == 6.3 Changed category ==
| | :: Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers{{User:SOTO/sig}} 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| | What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
| Hi! Thought you'd like to know that [[User:WaltK]] has opened [[Thread:268687|a Panopticon thread]] concerning how best to cover information original to the Portuguese dub of ''[[The Ghost Monument (TV story)|The Ghost Monument]]'' on the Wiki. Since, some time back, you deleted the page [[Palmirinha]] because it was based on information from a dub (''deleted'', mind you, not tagged as invalid, which I think is a bit peculiar) I assume you must have some opinions on the subject, which I think everyone on the thread would be interested to hear exposed at more length than you could in the necessarily-brief deletion rationale of [[Palmirinha]]. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:40, March 19, 2020 (UTC)
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| :Oh, I wasn't demanding anything, quickly or otherwise, sorry if I came across that way. Take your time!--[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:56, March 20, 2020 (UTC)
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| == RE:admins == | | == Trying to locate a missing thread == |
| Actually I was about to inform [[User:SOTO]] about having told them multiple times without luck. I wrote to SOTO's talk page at the same time as you wrote to me on MY talk page. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:55, March 26, 2020 (UTC)
| | Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section: |
| :Just a note. [[User:Connorguy]] was one of the users who kept enforcing the speculative content, even though he was not the one who "created" it. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:26, March 26, 2020 (UTC)
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| ::Another unrelated and repentant note seeing the above: I fully admit, in light of the above kerfuffle, that I kept arguing with [[User:BananaClownMan]] for ''too'' long over edit summaries at [[The Doctor's saviour]] earlier today before I realised we weren't getting anywhere productive, at which point I [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User_talk%3ABananaClownMan#Alternate_timelines_and_.22Doctor_Who_and_the_Time_War.22 finally had the sense to drop a message on BCM's talk page]. I think the object-level issue's solved now, and no personal attacks were endured on either side of the conversation, but I felt it only fair to mention to you that 1) it happened, and 2) I realised I was in the wrong. (About my method of going about the editing, I mean; about the object-level issue, I ''was'' correct, as BCM appears to have eventually agreed. But that's not really either here or there.)--[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:34, March 26, 2020 (UTC)
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| ::: Meh. Water under the bridge. (Pun not intended). I'm just glad we were able to find a common ground in the end. ;D [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:48, March 26, 2020 (UTC)
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| :I wasn't edit warring. Several users posted certain information but it kept being removed, I ensured that the information (which would have been readded by another anyway) remained and advised the offending user to strike up a discussion. Thanks. [[User:Xx-connor-xX|Xx-connor-xX]] [[User talk:Xx-connor-xX|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:22, March 27, 2020 (UTC)
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| | ''As detailed at [[Thread:264489]], character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.'' |
| I remembered my old password, and the new account wont be used. [[User:Xx-connor-xX|Xx-connor-xX]] [[User talk:Xx-connor-xX|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:28, March 27, 2020 (UTC)
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| | As you can see though, this link to said thread is red, hence doesn't take me anywhere when I click it. |
| Hi there, I hope you are well during these uncertain times. Today I discovered that the wiki has a policy called [[T:NO TITLE]] which mandates what to do when part of a series does not have a clear title. It dictates that stories should be given an exact acronym of their overall series name.
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| : No problem, take all the time you need! --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:23, March 28, 2020 (UTC)
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| == Mark Barton Hill ==
| | Therefore, are you able to provide me information as to the thread itself or link me to the archive where it is stored? I don't want to trouble myself shortening all the articles if this thread has been superceded or reverted, hence does not actually have to be acted upon now. In which case, I could take to removing the templates from the Doctor's articles instead. |
| Hi please reinstate my blog form Mark Barton Hill created in SHADA 2017 .
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| I took a great deal of time to fill this out for you and it's showing that Shambala108 deleted it. WHY? it was great and needs to be on your website. {{unsigned|SHADA2017}} | |
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| == reinstate my bio please == | | Looking forward to your reply. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| Please may I reinstate my page about Mark Barton Hill on Doctor Who SHADA credit - with out you erasing it again.
| | :On this subject Shambala, it ''does'' still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in [[Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0]], as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at [[User:SOTO/Forum Archive]]. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
| I am he and wish to repost the photos and bio I did last night. please.
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| | Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits. |
| Your rename template on [[Dalek Alphabet]] is unwarranted. The source, ''[[UNIT Initiation Test (game)|UNIT Initiation Test]]'', capitalises it this way. It's emphatically referred to as "The Dalek Alphabet", not "the Dalek alphabet". --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:09, March 30, 2020 (UTC)
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| | Thank you once more for responding to me message! [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
| The Chibnall page is being vandalised and the vandal is removing all edits that remove the vandalism
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| he's not using an account but using the IP 84.102.151.57, I have tried to remove them myself in sections to stop him from undoing them but it didn't work
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| Hi, recently I edited the page for Cleopatra by adding a more accurate image from the cover of an Erimem book, and you disregarded it on the grounds that images should be from in-universe.
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| | I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
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| | Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. [[User:BlueSupergiant|BlueSupergiant]] [[User talk:BlueSupergiant|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC) |
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Something you might want to look into[[edit source]]
Hello, User:Shambala108.
Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit here, where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, User:Epsilon the Eternal still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, Rose Noble, had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns.
I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion, reverted edits based on actions not yet taken, put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves, indulge in rude wording on multiple occasions (even using the name of the Lord in vain), and engaged in unneeded hostilities on talk pages.
I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
BananaClownMan ☎ 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at Beep the Meep. Wondering if you could help resolve it. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples.
I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past.
I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless.
I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious.
I think all users can have their issues, and while Epsilon has had a few citations against them in the past, there have been extraneous circumstances around those in some regards.
We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --Tangerineduel / talk 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
My "Who vs elsewhere" polls[[edit source]]
Hello,
Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh?
Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba ☎ 22:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Merry Christmas And Happy New Year[[edit source]]
Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward User:Sum41Champ
Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have CheckUser access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion!
Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Happy holidays.
× SOTO (💬/📈/↯) 18:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I just wanted to mention that User:Spongebob456 is probably the easiest Fandom staff member to contact for things like this as he's our wiki rep. He's who I've gone to for a few similar requests in the past (which I've done through his Discord but you could probably do through his talk page). Bongo50 ☎ 18:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- And that's exactly who I went to, in fact! But no problem at all.
- Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers
× SOTO (💬/📈/↯) 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. User:Sum41Champ
Trying to locate a missing thread[[edit source]]
Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section:
As detailed at Thread:264489, character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.
As you can see though, this link to said thread is red, hence doesn't take me anywhere when I click it.
Per some users (anonymous editors) removing it from the page, I began to do some digging as to the thread itself, in preparation for setting myself on the task of shortening down the Doctor articles myself in time, having already began work doing so with the CS links per my conversation with User:Scrooge MacDuck. In doing so, I discovered you are the one who added said template onto the Doctor articles back in 2020 (see the following link as an example: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Twelfth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3015495 )
Therefore, are you able to provide me information as to the thread itself or link me to the archive where it is stored? I don't want to trouble myself shortening all the articles if this thread has been superceded or reverted, hence does not actually have to be acted upon now. In which case, I could take to removing the templates from the Doctor's articles instead.
Looking forward to your reply. Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- On this subject Shambala, it does still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0, as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at User:SOTO/Forum Archive. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) Najawin ☎ 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits.
From what User:Bongolium500 sent me, it appears there's still the intention for the articles to be trimmed down as the template requests, it just seems no one - or very few editors - are actually bothering to do it, hence the templates remaining after 3 and a bit years of its request being placed. Same could be said for the CS link conversion since a mix of editors still use variants of the old format. If the task to do it is still needed though, and hence isn't going to be a waste of my time, I can begin implementing the change.
Thank you once more for responding to me message! Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. User:Sum41Champ
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. BlueSupergiant ☎ 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
