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== Something you might want to look into ==


If you need to leave a message here on my talk page, please follow a couple of guidelines:
Hello, User:Shambala108.  
* Please don't forget to [[Tardis:Signature Policy|sign your posts]]. Like most [[admin]]s, I won't answer any post that doesn't have a signature.
* Also, if you are starting a new topic, please add a new heading.
Also also please don't use my talk page to argue with other users.
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Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Star_Beast_(TV_story)?diff=3662903&oldid=3662898 here], where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, [[User:Epsilon the Eternal]] still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because  they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, [[Rose Noble]], had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns.
== WaltK's ban ==
Hello! Just notifying you that [[User:WaltK]] posted a message on [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Message_Wall:Shambala108?threadId=4400000000003175821 your Community Central talk page] appealing a ban you gave him, in case you didn't get a notification. His case seems reasonable at first glance, though I haven't looked into it personally. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:02, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
: Well, you never replied, so he contacted ''me'' as per [[Help:I'm blocked]]. I've taken it upon myself to unblock him. Although his message did contain profanity it wasn't a personal attack directed at any individual, so I think the time he's already been blocked is plenty sufficient for procedure — and he ''does'' do very useful work in the main namespace on the ''[[Doctor_Whoah!|Doctor Whoah!]]'' pages and whatnot, whatever he'd done in the ''Discussions'' area. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:31, 29 June 2021 (UTC)


== Sock puppetry and likely vandalism  ==
I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Fifteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3660630 treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Theory:Timeline_-_Fourteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3659912 reverted edits based on actions not yet taken], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3659364 put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656646 indulge in rude wording] [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656310 on multiple occasions] ([https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Solitract?diff=prev&oldid=3641225 even using the name of the Lord in vain]), and engaged in unneeded hostilities [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Fourteenth_Doctor on talk pages].


Hi, there are two users that may be sock puppets who are creating/adding fan fiction, Sarahkitt85 and 82.25.60.41 [[User:Valeyard12.5|Valeyard12.5]] [[User talk:Valeyard12.5|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:53, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters.
 
== Tally ==
Hi there, I just found myself having some difficulty counting up the marks in the Tally on your user page. So in case you want to replicate regular {{wi|tally marks}} where every group of 5 is signified by four lines struck through, I thought I'd let you know that this Chinese symbol exists: 卌. (Of course, you could just use <s>||||</s>, but where's the fun in that?) Hope you've been well! – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 14:06, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
 
== Rename Tag ==
 
Hey,
I noticed you've asked for a rename tag for the page: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Segun_Akinola_Lietmotivs
 
I'd like to change it to "Segun Akinola's Leitmotifs" but I have no idea how to make a rename tag. When I try and find other tags I don't see rename and then I'm not sure how to add it to the article in question.
 
Do you have a guide for this?
 
Thank you :)
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== Re: OS12th ==
Oh, yes, thank you for spotting that! One of the listings should be [[User:Amorkuz]], of course. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:14, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
 
== FandomDesktop migration ==
 
Hey there! We are due to migrate this wiki very soon to FandomDesktop and I need to help get a light theme ready. Apologies for the short notice of this, there were some unforeseen circumstances.
 
It would be great to work with the entire admin team to get the wiki ready for FandomDesktop. Have you been using the new skin? I'm going to start some preparation tomorrow and it would be great to work with the admin team on this. We may need to:
 
* Adjust the theme on light theme
* Adjust templates
* Adjust CSS/JS
* and more potentially.
 
If you have any suggestions for how we can collaborate, please let me know. I wondered if a forum thread on [[Forum:Index]] might work? Please let me know if you have any questions, and I look forward to hearing from you! --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 18:47, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
 
== [[Template:Timeline|Timeline template]] ==
 
I'm a new user on this fandom, though I am currently the owner of [[w:c:eminem:User:Kris_tha_6%277"|Eminem Wiki]], so I'm not a complete stranger to editing templates. I noticed your timeline template has things a bit out of order and doesn't include certain years. I was wondering if you could give me an opportunity to take a look at it and see if I could make it properly display the years on the Timeline template. However, I will not complete any edits without running it by you.
<br><small>- [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User:Kris_tha_6%277%22 Kris tha 6'7"] [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User_talk:Kris_tha_6%277%22 <span title="Talk to me">☎</span>] 17:22, 23 July 2021 (CST)</small>
 
== Timeline update #2 ==
 
So, I believe that I've come up with a solution to the issue with the timeline template, though, I did create a new page called [[Template:Order of Centuries]], which is useless and should be deleted. I'm not entirely sure of my revision for the [[Template:Timeline|Timeline template]] issue, so I'm going to give it a shot under [[Template:TimelineRevision]]. If it works (and I'm going to test it out briefly on the [[Timeline]] page), I'll let you know.
<br><small>- [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User:Kris_tha_6%277%22 Kris tha 6'7"] [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User_talk:Kris_tha_6%277%22 <span title="Talk to me">☎</span>] 18:10, 24 July 2021 (CST)</small>
 
== Community Connect ==
 
Hey there! Can I confirm you received an email re Community Connect please? May be in spam and it's to the email associated with your Fandom account. Is this something you would be interested in attending? Thanks! --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 10:28, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
 
== RE: ==
 
You are most welcome :) [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:21, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
 
== Little Shop page ==
 
Hi there! I created a page named Little Shop and you removed it because you don’t make pages about running gags. May I ask why? It may be a stupid question but I’m just curious.
[[User:SuperPhoneGuyIdk|Caroline]] [[User talk:SuperPhoneGuyIdk|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:45, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
 
== The Master page ==
 
Hi. I think [[The Master]] page may need a bit of admin work to fix the vandalism from our recently blocked "friend". The page has the correct title at the top of the page, but the infobox, talk page, and history pages still have the vandalised title. And there is still [[The Masturbator|a redirect]] as well. [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:30, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
 
== Dalek Page Vandalism ==
 
It's come to my eyes that upon loading the wiki, someone has vandalised the Dalek page and called it JEWS MUST BE EXTERMINATED! It seems upon viewing that someone saw this and made a first time edit to remove an antisemetic comment at the top of the page and they have left a note about it requesting that a mod or admin clear everything up. However, the page name remains the questionable statement.
 
- AlternateThirteenth (23:07) 18th August 2021
 
== Videos ==
 
Could you please upload this official trailer for [[Battle of Time (video game)]]?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe05WrO7W98 [[User:EpsilonGamma|EpsilonGamma]] [[User talk:EpsilonGamma|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:04, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
 
== Fandom projects ==
 
Hi! Got a couple of things:
 
As this wiki used to use Special:Forum, Fandom wants to make sure that old forum links and references aren't cluttering up maintenance special pages (unusedfiles, needed pages etc). Would you mind checking and letting me know asap as to whether that's an issue for this wiki? Just looking for dead links to forums in special pages, or links to images used in forums but are now dead, stuff like that. No need to attempt to cleanup yourself, I just need to know if they exist.
 
Secondly, did you receive an email sent last week I believe inviting you to The Downstream on September 10th? The email is titled "[The Downstream] Ask Fandom Anything, Social Media Tips, and Data Insights". I just want to confirm you received the email as we know Fandom outreach emails often land in spam.
 
If you could let me know about both of those things, that would be fantastic. Thanks! --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 09:44, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
:Hi there, just a reminder that '''The Downstream''' is '''Friday, September 10''' at '''11am EST''' at https://www.twitch.tv/Fandom. You can register/RSVP and add the event to your calendar [https://www.eventbrite.com/e/the-downstream-registration-168649636603 here]. That page also gives a lot of detail on what the event offers. Any questions, please let me know! --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 12:11, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
 
== Vandalism ==
 
Just wanting you to know, Someone has vandalized Dinosaurs on a spaceship right side bar pretty badly [[User:Andy Liu1978|Andy Liu1978]] [[User talk:Andy Liu1978|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:29, 29 August 2021 (UTC)Andy Liu1978
 
Yeah the same vandal is back under a different account. He's vandalising the same page and signing it with the same comments [[User:Valeyard12.5|Valeyard12.5]] [[User talk:Valeyard12.5|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:46, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
 
== Still don't see a good reason, ==
 
Could you please give me a specific Link? Thank you. {{Unsigned|Blartyboy}}
 
== Lavel Article Name change ==
 
The [[Lavel]] article has had a <nowiki>{{rename}}</nowiki> tag on it for over 4 years, and no one other than myself has made any kind of discussion on the article talk page regarding the name change. Given the sheer amount of time for users to discuss such a change, unless you or another admin has any objections, I move to change the article name, either by myself if I can get the go-ahead, or an admin with more familiarity with the process. [[User:Pbandfluff|Pbandfluff]] [[User talk:Pbandfluff|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:41, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 
== Apologies ==
 
Im sorry, I didnt know that fan-fiction wasnt allowed and I didnt thunk that my post catagoriezed as Fan-Fiction.
 
Galaxies of apologies
- Justin_story56
 
== Redirects ==
Yeah, I left the redirects intentionally since they're all being used by other users to link to my sandboxes, and I'm not comfortable editing their messages or breaking their links. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 16:50, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
 
== Blanking ==
 
Hi there’s a vandal who has blanked the Master’s and Thirteenth Doctor’s page [[User:Valeyard12.5|Valeyard12.5]] [[User talk:Valeyard12.5|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:49, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
 
== The Sarah Jane Adventures ==
 
I just noticed a user is reverting edits you made to the page [[The Sarah Jane Adventures]], which as you're an admin, I seemed was quite odd that they would revert specifically the stuff you edited.
EDIT: I forgot to sign this.
[[User:ThomasRWade|ThomasRWade]] [[User talk:ThomasRWade|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:07, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
 
== Vandal on the Dalek and Davros pages ==
 
Hi. There is a vandal that keeps editing the [[Davros]] and [[Dalek]] pages. I have undone their edits a few times, but it's starting to get into edit warring territory, so could you please have a word with them or block them. Thanks. [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:42, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
 
== Checking in ==
 
Hi there! Sorry it has been a little while since I last checked in, I have been out of action for the last two weeks unfortunately. How are things going? One thing I did notice was that the navigation in dark theme, the Explore tab in white is hard to read. Have you guys noticed that? Figured if we do what we did before and if we continue a single thread on my talk page, it might be easier for us to keep track. Hope that's ok! :) --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 09:02, 4 October 2021 (UTC)
 
== Forum Confusion ==
 
Sorry if this is a ridiculous question, but I wasn't sure where I should ask. I wanted to make a forum post - specifically in the Panopticon, regarding something I'm really campaigning for something to change on the wiki.
 
I've been out of the loop for a while and the Fandom updates sure do confuse me, but I digress.
 
When I try to make a forum post here I get hit with a "You do not have permission to edit pages in the Forum namespace." I know forums weren't a thing for a bit but I see they're here now and would like some clarification on this!
 
Thanking you!
 
[[User:StevieGLiverpool|StevieGLiverpool]] [[User talk:StevieGLiverpool|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:29, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
: @Shambala: I've informed [[User:StevieGLiverpool]] on his own talk page that the Forums still aren't functional — but I'm taking this opportunity to spread the word to you that [[User:CzechOut]] has told me in off-Wiki chats that he hopes to have [[Board:The Panopticon]] functional before November. <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 00:33, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 
== Checking in ==
 
Hi again! Just checking in to see how things are going. How're things on the wiki? All set for the premiere? :) --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 10:52, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
 
== Username change ==
 
Hello. You closed my thread, and I hadn't the time to write you a reply before you did. Regarding my username change... I have my old username in my profile. It's there, right after "aka". Isn't it enough? [[User:Lil&#39; Golden Rat|Lil&#39; Golden Rat]] [[User talk:Lil&#39; Golden Rat|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:39, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 
== Reverted page moves ==
Hi, I'm terribly sorry but I noticed that you reverted both of the page moves I made today ([[FI's teas]] and [[Depositary 23]]) with the explanation "Cleaning up after page move by non-admin" and I was wondering if you'd be willing to tell me why, so I can avoid making similar mistakes in future? I thought I had reasonable grounds for both moves, and that neither would break anything (both pages being fairly minor articles and leaving the redirects); is there a blanket ban on non-admin users moving pages or something?
Apologies [[User:Starkidsoph|Starkidsoph]] [[User talk:Starkidsoph|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:28, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 
== Concern about New User on the Discussion Baords ==
 
I'm concerned that a new user on the discussion boards, DoctorsIBS, is a troll as they are not only spamming posts, but being generally unpleasant in their choice of posts and discussions. [[User:Lucian Corbyn|Lucian Corbyn]] [[User talk:Lucian Corbyn|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:57, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 
: Thanks for bringing this up, Lucian. [[User:DoctorsIBS]] is also vandalising several pages on the wiki to boot. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:00, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 
 
== Question ==
While I do apologise for choosing the edit summary as the place to initially bring this up, as you can't exactly have any sort of nuanced discussion there due to its format and this is the kind of thing that needs slightly more nuanced discussion, but if I may ask;
 
WHY is it that;
 
1. Any other kind of adaptation (such as audio adaptation, TV adaption of an EU story, etc.) is listed seperately in the infobox
 
2. Novelisations themselves are listed seperately in "list of appearances" pages
 
3. Novelisations aren't listed seperately in infoboxes
 
Seems a bit... just odd to me, is all. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:35, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 
== Why don’t you have certain rules that you often bring up in the discussions guidelines? ==
 
You always tell users to contact an admin's talk page for stuff to do with the main wiki rather than bringing if to discussions, but why do you not have that in the wiki guidelines? This includes other stuff such as no advertising other wikis, always have titles that "make sense", complain about other users on an admin's talk page if you feel they've done something wrong, and no celebrating their birthday. (unless it's Doctor Who themed, I guess) I bet you could think of more examples. Why are rules like those rules not in the guidelines? It would save you and other users time cause you wouldn't have to warn them about it (at least if they've read the guidelines). [[User:GaganTopia|GaganTopia]] [[User talk:GaganTopia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:49, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 
== Poopybtutholee ==
 
Hi hope you are well. A user Poopybuttholee is vandalising pages, as well as have an unacceptable username. [[User:Valeyard12.5|Valeyard12.5]] [[User talk:Valeyard12.5|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:01, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
 
== Re: User questions ==
 
Hi, I was not intending to present myself as an experienced editor with whom people can come to for '''general''' questions. When it comes to most things, including policy, I agree that an admin eould be better. However, I have spent the majority of my time here on Tardis looking into the technical side of editing, including a lot of time spent on the forums situation. Therefore, I would consider myself more experienced on this topic then most editors and am happy to share what I know when it is relevant. I am sorry if I overstepped my authority (or lack thereof) here, though. [[User:Bongolium500|Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500)]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:33, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
 
== Re:Message to IP user ==
 
Hey. Thanks for your message; if that's the case, I'll just leave them to it. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:07, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
 
== Question re: ICC rules ==
 
Hello;
 
I noticed you removed [[:File:Black Orchid (book).png|this file]] for "multiple violations" of the ICC rules. Upon review, however, I could not determine which rules were broken by the image. Could you help me in this regard?
 
Here is a Google Drive link to the file so I don't break the same rules for reuploading the image: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1AbbwnSAb01GwfM9-88WlhhFByUzjP6fn/view?usp=sharing
 
Thank you! [[User:Moosana|Moosana]] [[User talk:Moosana|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:10, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
 
== Links in the forum posts ==
 
Good day to you, Shamb. I have a quick question about the policy against links in forum posts. Are users prohibited from posting ''any'' links or just links that promote their sites/blogs and whatnot? I tried searching for this specific bit in the policies section, but got nothing. Thanks. [[User:Lil&#39; Golden Rat|Lil&#39; Golden Rat]] [[User talk:Lil&#39; Golden Rat|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:34, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 
== Hey there! ==
 
So, I’ve noticed this wiki is lacking on Discussions Moderators. I’m a discussions mod on another wiki (the Miitopia wiki), and I seem to do well there, so I’ve been thinking I could maybe be a Discussions Mod here? Now, obviously I’m not the most active user here right now, but I could become more active, as I am a big fan of the show and I’d be willing to help out with the moderation. What are the qualifications for being a mod here, exactly? Thanks - [[User:GaganTopia|GaganTopia]] [[User talk:GaganTopia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:04, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 
== Off-topic Megathread? ==
 
So I’ve seen a few wikis with off-topic megathreads (Jurassic Park wiki being one example), which are basically discussions threads where users can post whatever they want that is not related to the subject of the wiki (in this case Doctor Who) in the replies to that thread. We could put it in FANDOM posts, so it’s easier to find, and we can tell users about it whenever a discussion is or goes off-topic. Maybe we could call it “The Void” too, as it is technically outside of “the universe of the wiki”.  What do you think about this idea? [[User:GaganTopia|GaganTopia]] [[User talk:GaganTopia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:13, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
 
== This user has an inappropriate pfp ==
 
[[User:Dejdhdjdjdjfxjx]]
As you can see by looking closely, their pfp is of a (trouser-covered) buttock. What should we do? Should we warn them to change their pfp with the punishment for not changing it being block, or should we block them instantly, or something else? [[User:GaganTopia|GaganTopia]] [[User talk:GaganTopia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:12, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
 
== Sorry, I never meant to offend you ==
 
I did not mean any offence by saying that you were not responding to my talk pages, I was just saying it in case the users I told the things to instead of you pointed out that I already told it to you. I never meant any offence, sorry. Anyway, thanks for the help! [[User:GaganTopia|GaganTopia]] [[User talk:GaganTopia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:48, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
 
== Fandom updates ==
 
Hey there! I posted some Fandom updates [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User:Spongebob456/Fandom_updates_-_Women%27s_History_Month,_MediaWiki_1.37,_and_quizzes here], which includes details on an upcoming MediaWiki upgrade to the platform. If you have any questions/feedback/comments on it, please do message on my talk page! As normal, if you wanted to continue a thread left by another admin too that'd be great to keep things in one place. Thanks! :) --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 21:51, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 
== Never meant to cause offence ==
 
Please accept my apologies. Could you please advise further about how to go about having the debate as to whether said characters are companions? Apologies again. [[User:Gearedspy|Gearedspy]] [[User talk:Gearedspy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:35, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 
== I confess, I had an old account here ==
 
The account was called [[User:King of the Sandmen|King of the Sandmen]]. I was hesitant to tell you this, as I was worried you would punish me for using multiple accounts (even if they were mainly used at different times and none of them were used to evade any bans, and I now find out this does not violate [[Tardis:Username policy#Using multiple accounts|T:SOCK]] due to the reasons above and the fact that I have added it to my user page), but now I have decided to tell you. I switched my account from King of the Sandmen to GaganTopia in August to hide my identity from another wiki. I claimed he was my cousin, even on here, because I didn’t want the other wiki to see and find out the truth, but I have revealed the truth to you, and on [[User:GaganTopia|my user page]], and later, I may reveal it to the rest of the wiki in a post saying how I really got into Doctor Who. Proof of him being me and what I did which made me switch accounts is on this thread from another wiki in December last year - https://third-claric.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000027551
 
I’ve just been wondering, since this means I’ve been posting here for nearly a year now (since April the 2nd), does that mean I can get discussions moderator rights sooner? Allow me to remind you that I applied for the rights to you last month and have been showing I can prove myself multiple times. If I can’t get them sooner, due to using a previous active alt from here to fit in with the requirements, or just multiple accounts not being allowed to be used on here (though I wasn’t using them to get around any ban), or something else, then that’s fine. I will still go on to show that I can prove myself, as I’m sure I would be very good at the job, as I am super active and I understand the rules and can explain them to users as you do, and I’m sure I can hold off trolls in discussions till the admins block them. It’s up to you guys though. So yeah, share your thoughts.
 
Thanks - [[User:GaganTopia|GaganTopia]] [[User talk:GaganTopia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:22, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
 
== Vandal ==
 
Hey Shambala, that vandal also messed with a bunch of page titles, as can be seen on the [[Special:Log/move|Move log]]. I know this wiki has strict rules for who can move pages and who can't so do not know if I can move them back but know an admin can [[User:Editoronthewiki|Editoronthewiki]] [[User talk:Editoronthewiki|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:14, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
 
== RE: Previous account ==
 
Hi. I will try to read and show I can understand all of the rules that apply to discussions. But one question, what about warning users about gratuitous swearing? That is a violation of the discussions guidelines. Oh, and not to sound pushy or demanding or whatever, but when can I apply for moderator rights again? Thanks :) - [[User:GaganTopia|GaganTopia]] [[User talk:GaganTopia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:23, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
 
==Deletion request==
Hello, can you please delete the category "Individuals Fairies", it's a complete misspelling that I made of my intended category "Individual Fairies" meant for [[Jasmine Pierce]], which I also hope you can approve of and finalise. The misspelt category is placed in the deletion bin among other items that should be reviewed as well. Thank you. [[User:RedWizard98|RedWizard98]] [[User talk:RedWizard98|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:47, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
: (I've taken care of this.) <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 20:47, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 
::Hello, as Scrooge has resolved issue, please ignore above. [[User:RedWizard98|RedWizard98]] [[User talk:RedWizard98|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
 
==Vandal==
 
Hi, there is a vandal on the Eve of the Daleks page. I think he's a repeat offender as I've seen his style before so to speak [[User:Valeyard12.5|Valeyard12.5]] [[User talk:Valeyard12.5|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:10, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 
== Wiki Rules and Blocking Policy ==
 
Hey!
 
Recently, Fandom staff [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Pikushi/Updates_to_Wiki_Rules_and_Blocking_Policy posted updates] to the [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Wiki_Rules_and_Blocking_Policy Fandom Wiki Rules and Blocking Policy]. As a reminder, this is a global policy to aid the wellbeing of communities that all wikis have been following since 2021. These new changes go into effect on '''April 4th'''.
 
I'll let you read through those changes and if you have any questions, please let me know on my talk page! :) --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 15:24, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 
== Interactive Maps ==
 
Hey! [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User:Spongebob456/Interactive_Maps Made a post about the new Interactive Maps feature] - does Tardis have any maps suitable for that? --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 12:15, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
 
== Re: Epsilon ==
(Thank you for stepping in, I think another pair of eyes was needed.)
 
Regarding Epsilon, as I told [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan]], I vaguely thought a further warning from me would be redundant because DrWHOCorrieFan themself had ''already'' reproached Epsilon for it — even if they shouldn't have assumed the authority to do so — and I assumed Epsilon would see my message to DrWHOCorrieFan in which I granted that their message itself had been correct.
 
But — thinking about it more — yeah, I think you're right. Epsilon likely got the message in practice, but all the same, this was a bit muddled and illegible from an outside view — and that outside view ''does'' matter. I'll go and leave a ''pro forma'' message at [[User talk:Epsilon the Eternal]]. <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 23:56, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
 
== T:NO RW ==
 
Hello Shambala108,
 
I was wondering if you would care to take a look at the discussion over at [[Talk:Larcenia Floyd]]. The discussion is in regards to [[T:NO RW]], which was edited by [[User:Scrooge MacDuck]] mid-discussion due to the policy being "outdated" and there being a general consensus in place, however I recall that at [[Talk:Shrek]] your idea of ''T:NO RW'' was more akin to mine. I thought your input would be important here. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:48, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 
:I believe [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan]] is referring to the discussion at [[Talk:Shrek#Characters shown on the poster?]] concerning the blurry characters on the ''Shrek'' poster. Just to be clear, my recent update to [[T:NO RW]] had nothing to do with this, and instead served to clarify the common practice on conjectural ''names''. Feel free to check out the talk page, though! <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 19:51, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 
:: I don't believe that it has ''nothing to do with this''.
 
:: The comment Shambala agreed with was; "isn't that breaking some sort of rule about putting real-world information onto pages as their counterparts in the DWU could be completely different". They stated "The above is true: [[T:NO RW]]". [[Larcenia Floyd]] was not named in the source material so therefore, like these characters, it would be a breach of the original ''T:NO RW'' (prior to your edits) as it would include putting real-world information onto pages despite the fact that their counterparts in the DWU could be different.
 
:: I have nothing more to say as I'm going round it circles, but Shambala seemed to agree with the original rule so might have objections to your changing it. I will leave it with them and if they want to involve themselves they can. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:57, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
 
== Does this message work? ==
Is this proper messaging?
 
== Typo in Special:Preferences ==
 
[[File:Preferences typo screenshot.jpg|thumb]]In [[Special:Preferences##mw-prefsection-gadgets]], there is a typo under the search bar gadget in which the word "then" is used when "than" would me more appropriate, saying "a fair bit more convenient then it is currently" when it should say "a fair bit more convenient than it is currently". (illustrated to the right for clarity) [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:12, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 
: (this is assuming that [[Doctor Who Wiki|the wiki]] has power over ''[[Special:Preferences]]'') [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:16, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 
:: Hi, I just thought I'd let you know that the typo [[User:Cookieboy 2005]] is referring to can be fixed at [[MediaWiki:Gadget-search bar]]. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:47, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
 
:: (it hasn't been fixed yet, so I'm just posting again here to make sure you're aware of the [[Problem|issue]]) [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:07, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== Spoilers ==
 
Hi please make sure to read our spoiler policy at [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]. No matter how official something is, on this wiki it's considered a spoiler until '''air time''' of an episode with the information. The posts you have made on the discussion board have been deleted because you did not put them in the Spoilers category. Thanks [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:15, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
:As talk pages are no longer fully supported by Fandom, I'm posting this both as an edit to the original post on my talk page and am posting it on the talk page of the editor who posted on my talk page.
 
:As it happens, I did read the Spoiler policy and also the Spoiler page which defines spoiler differently. By both of those, I personally don't see this as a spoiler. Among many other sources, it's been publicly reported as headline news (i.e. even without reading the article, the information is in the headline) by:
 
# scifi.radio
# huffpost.com
# wikipedia.org
# cnn.com
# hollywoodlife.com
# cbsnews.com
# nbcnews.com
# abcnews.go.com
# abc.net.au
# sabcnews.com
# flipboard.com
# thesun.co.uk
# the-sun.com
# theverge.com
# popbuzz.com
# radiotimes.com
# npr.com
# news.yahoo.com
# theguardian.com
# vulture.com
# columbian.com
# euronews.com
# theglobalherald.com
# nytimes.com
# people.com
# buzzfeednews.com
# theguardian.com
# usatoday.com
# wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu
# usmagazine.com
# ign.com
# ew.com
# collider.com
# variety.com
# wsj.com
# tvline.com
# popsugar.com
# insider.com
# aol.com
# digitalspy.com
# msn.com
# sfgate.com
# upi.com
# reuters.com
# bbc.com
 
:Even doing just a basic search for "Doctor Who," that information pops up as one of the top results.
 
:"Spoiler" is apparently applied on this wiki in a way that doesn't fit English language definitions of the word.
 
:For example, Merriam-Webster: "information about the plot of a motion picture or TV program that can spoil a viewer's sense of surprise or :suspense" also "a person who discloses such information."
 
:Perhaps you might want to find or even create a word that would have the definition you intend. This could be a word that would clarify that you do not allow on-topic public information that appears in so many sources that it's hard to avoid seeing it.
 
:I hope this helps!
 
:[[User:Alden Loveshade|Alden Loveshade]] [[User talk:Alden Loveshade|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:28, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
 
== Namespace of talk pages and Forums ==
 
You wrote "Closing this post because any change to policy must be brought in the namespace of talk pages or forum posts, not these discussion boards." I didn't see any information on how you want someone to post in "namespace of talk pages" that would reach this wiki's community as a whole (which Fandom requires be the final decision maker on community issues), or "forums" here. Can you give me a link to your required procedure? Thanks for your help. [[User:Alden Loveshade|Alden Loveshade]] [[User talk:Alden Loveshade|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:16, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
 
== Re: Other people's user pages ==
 
Sorry, I'll make sure to go through an admin next time. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:46, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
 
==Mistakes==
 
As of now, I'll never knowingly do something wrong. If I do or did something wrong, I wasn't certain if the category fit. [[User:Sum41Champ]] talk
 
== Sheep Fvcher ==
 
Hi, that fuerai on wheels bloke is back under the rather inappropriate name sheep fvcher is up to his usual stuff [[User:Valeyard12.5|Valeyard12.5]] [[User talk:Valeyard12.5|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:42, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== T:SPOIL issue ==
Hey! To clarify: by no means did I 'scold' [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan]] for their initial suggestion. Insofar as I later 'scolded' them, it was for re-adding the potentially-spoilery talk page post ''itself'', twice, after I had deleted it and explained in an edit summary why it could be construed as spoilery (and that discussion about this should be undertaken at [[Howling:The Howling]] instead). But DrWHOCorrieFan's original post itself was certainly in good faith and not something to be scolded for. This, I don't dispute. <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 02:37, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
: Thanks for weighing in. From what I can gather (had another reread) T:SPOIL prevents spoilers - it ''does not'' prevent someone from suggesting something could be spoilery or likely to be spoiled. Nothing in my post contained spoilers and would have not alerted the average reader to any spoilery information if they were not already clued in, it was incorrectly removed. But alas, it is not that much of a big deal. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== Deleting unnecessary redirects ==
Of course; I always do. Thank you for the reminder! – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 14:48, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== Checking in ==
Hey, just chiming in to check on something I noticed on your reply on [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan]]'s talk page.
 
When you talk about "nothing being in ''written policy'' et al.", I assume you're having in mind those [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Wiki_Rules_and_Blocking_Policy latest update to FANDOM's network-wide policy], right?
 
When it comes to guidances over the ''interpretation'' of policy, like before it becomes a blockable offence, I didn't interpret it as everything needing to be made explicit (though it never hurts to update our policies anyway, with you there :p).
 
Anyway, how've you been? Happy editings. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:44, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 
: Ironically all these discussions about my comment are just as spoilery as the original! [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:56, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 
:Asking here in the offchance that you or OncomingStorm12th can clarify: the new updates to FANDOM policy still allow for "unwritten rules", right? They just say that these unwritten rules can't contradict the text of the policies as written.
:I just want to avoid any appearance that my renames have been exploitation of any "loophole" where "nowhere does policy ''explicitly'' forbid it". Rather, I've been moving pages because policy [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon#Renames|explicitly ''allows'' it]] and ''doesn't'' leave a loophole. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 21:17, 7 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== About that poll you recently locked ==
 
Hi, in case you didn't know, that was referencing a lost story of the Doctor Who spinoff [[The Sarah Jane Adventures]], specifically a scrapped story of that spinoff called [[The Thirteenth Floor (TV story)|The Thirteenth Floor]]. I just wanted to let you know this, seeing as it is DW related. The poll I'm referencing is here > https://tardis.fandom.com/d/p/4400000000003622349
Thanks. [[User:Unused account 537283837|Unused account 537283837]] [[User talk:Unused account 537283837|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
 
: I do agree with @[[User:Unused account 537283837|Unused account 537283837]]; it very much ''is'' related to ''Doctor Who'', just from an out-of-universe production standpoint. Definitely should be unlocked. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>Epsilon</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 12:23, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== Apology ==
 
Hey Shambala108, just so you know I am the same user that write those yelling messages to user Ebyabe back in May 2016. I’m here to let you both know that I am deeply sorry for the way I spoke to him six years ago, I know now what I did was wrong before, because back then I didn’t know any better. But now since years when by, I now have deep regrets for the way I acted towards him on here, because the reason why I got angry with him is because I felt like I was being mistreated by him. But now I know it was just a misunderstanding. Please, I’m begging for forgiveness. Again, I am very, very, very, sorry for my past behavior towards him on his talk page all those years ago. I really hope you both can forgive me? Because I really mean it and I promise not to treat him like that again. [[User:Anonymously64|Anonymously64]] [[User talk:Anonymously64|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:20, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== Hi ==
 
I want to ask you politely to please stop restoring my removed edits, because those are harassment posts I made in the past and I’m just trying to be polite by removing and be very apologetic about it to him. Can you please don’t touch my edits again please. [[User:Anonymously64|Anonymously64]] [[User talk:Anonymously64|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:03, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== Sorry ==
 
Look, I’m really sorry to say this to you. But no, that rule is completely dumb and ridiculous, so your telling me if someone leaves a harassing post on my talk page, can’t remove it and report it? That is so dumb. It’s my post and I have the right to remove it, again, it’s a harassment post and I was just trying to be nice by removing it and be very apologetic to him about it. Please, I’m asking you politely to just let me remove it and I will move in with my day. Please.
 
P.S. So all because I was trying to be nice by removing my harassment posts and be very apologetic about to him and yet you sill had the guts to block me over that… seriously!?!?
[[Special:Contributions/174.242.66.91|174.242.66.91]]<sup>[[User talk:174.242.66.91#top|talk to me]]</sup> 03:16, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== Apology 2 ==
 
Look, I’m really sorry for deleting those talk page messages. I was just trying to be nice and I was only trying to be very apologetic about my past behavior towards him back in 2016. Plus, the second reason I was removing those messages is because I didn’t want my real name on their, I just wanted to remove my real name because I keep my real name private for personal reasons. But why is that a rule? That we can’t remove our previous post in the past? Because first off, yes, I know what I did to him back in 2016 was wrong and yelling at him was also wrong too. Because Zit felt like I was being mistreated by him, that’s why I kept on getting angry at him before. Plus, I’m also sorry for removing your talk page posts on my user talk page too. I just get really nervous so easily and sometimes I just don’t know how to respond to them, I was just afraid you wouldn’t listen what I have to say if I explained myself. But now that you know, I hope you understand, Again, I am deeply sorry. [[Special:Contributions/174.242.77.252|174.242.77.252]]<sup>[[User talk:174.242.77.252#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:11, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
 
== Ribos ==
 
I saw you had removed the image "File:Ribos - Silver and Ice trailer.jpg" citing multiple violations but didn't specify which. I thought images from Big Finish trailers for audio stories were allowed, unless that has since changed? [[User:EpsilonGamma|EpsilonGamma]] [[User talk:EpsilonGamma|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:06, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
 
== Feminists ==
 
Would you consider Gabby Gonzalez a feminist?
 
== Re: Spoilers ==
Sorry for the late reply, didn't notice that you had left a message on my talk page. I didn't know it was against policy until you pointed that policy out, as I've seen sandboxes with spoilers in before, as well as pages like [[list of future releases]] being contributed to by dozens of editors for years now. Nevertheless, I've removed the spoilers from my sandbox and reworked it to focus on only officially released material. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>Epsilon</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 14:32, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
: Actually, how come pages like [[list of future releases]] have been allowed and edited by numerous Admins if it's existence is against policy? <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><code>Epsilon</code></span>]][[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 14:34, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
:: I do not appreciate the whataboutery that seems to be an attempt to get around the fact that [[User:Epsilon the Eternal/Ncuti Gatwa]] is a very blatant spoiler. The [[List of future releases]] page which ''many'' find incredibly useful/necessary shouldn't be put at risk for a page that can easily be held in storage elsewhere until the time is right. The main difference between the spoilers that the pages offer is that even the title of the Ncuti Gatwa page is a massive spoiler that can be seen whenever it is edited (Ncuti has never been in Doctor Who or had any association with the show so seeing a page being made for him exposes him now having a role) while the list of future releases page has an ambiguous title which is correctly labeled with spoiler tags within so only those actually looking for spoilers will find them. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:08, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 
=== Community consensus ===
Hey, I happened to see the discussion over at [[User talk:Epsilon the Eternal]] about where spoilers are allowed, and the [[List of future releases]] set of pages specifically.
 
We don't yet have a working forum archive to check, but I'm not sure I remember a formal discussion happening. That said, I'd like to put forward that '''the pages themselves constitute clear community consensus''', either way.
 
Now I don't want editors reading this to think that any action taken on the wiki which hasn't been reverted by an admin is proof that the rules have already changed. In fact, I need to point to [[T:POINT]] in the context of this discussion: please always ''discuss'' suggested changes, and do not attempt to exploit a loophole or apparent lack of oversight in order to prove your point. That way leads to [[Help:I'm banned|very bad places]].
 
That said, the "future releases" range has been a broad community effort for the past two-and-a-half years -- with diverse editors, spanning pretty much ''all'' our regular users, giving clear consent by their continued participation -- and it's very much in keeping with the spirit of [[T:SPOIL ALLOW]].
 
I personally think they fall under series pages generally, but it would be good to add "Other overview type pages, like [[List of future releases]]", just to clear up any confusion about [[Tardis:Where spoilers are allowed|where spoilers are allowed]].
 
If necessary, we can always add a note at [[Talk:List of future releases]] directly, noting the presumption of consensus by the majority of our editor base, in having maintained this page together these past couple years. ([[Tardis:Who writes policy]])
 
I'm glad it's been pointed out that's missing. We should always aim to codify major new precedents on policy pages. Happy editing.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 06:08, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
 
== Re: Favor ==
Hi Shambala, thanks for reaching out! Happy to help.
 
I remember that there was a thread from my very early days on the wiki (late 2016, maybe?) that dealt with the [[Doctor Who Unbound]] stories. It concluded that, since ''[[The Unbound Universe (audio anthology)|The Unbound Universe]]'' showed that ''[[Sympathy for the Devil (audio story)|Sympathy for the Devil]]'' was set in a parallel universe to the main universe, all Unbound stories would be presumed to be parallel universes. So that would apply to ''[[He Jests at Scars... (audio story)|He Jests at Scars...]]'' as well. I'm pretty positive that I'm remembering it correctly, but I'd feel better about it if someone could back me up. [[User:OncomingStorm12th]] might have been around then?
 
Hope you've been well! – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 03:07, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
 
:: Hey! Hope you don't mind me butting in, but I've been looking around these ''Jests At Scars'' pages, and here's my two cents. Insofar as they should exist at all, the pages created with the dab term "(He Who Jests At Scars)" are certainly valid. As far as I can tell, the reason they didn't exist yet isn't a question of validity ''per se'' — rather, it's that the boundaries of when we create distinct pages for alternate-timeline versions of characters have always been a bit contentious.
 
:: For example, the [[Unbound Doctor]] of ''[[Sympathy for the Devil (audio story)|Sympathy for the Devil]]'' is an alternative Third Doctor, and a valid alternate timeline — but even though there existed a [[Second Doctor]] in his universe, we haven't created a separate page for him. The divergence between the ''Sympathy'' timeline occurs right after ''[[The War Games (TV story)|The War Games]]'', so "the Second Doctor of the David Warner timeline" is for all intents and purposes identical to the prime-timeline version. (And, depending on the specific multiverse technobabble a given story uses, may be ''literally'' the same person.)
 
:: So when it comes to things like [[First Doctor (He Jests at Scars...)]] — many of these pages hadn't been created, not because this information isn't valid, but because we can just cover it at [[First Doctor#Alternate timelines]]. This First Doctor doesn't even diverge from the prime version ''at all''. All we know about him is that in an alternative version of the Doctor's ''future'', the Valeyard consiered interfering with his history ''and ultimately didn't''. So a lot of these pages should be merged back into their prime counterparts' pages, IMO. (Though perhaps there are a ''few'' who deserve pages of their own that hadn't been created yet. The question should probably be examined case-by-case by someone who's listened to [[AUDIO]]: ''[[He Jests at Scars... (audio story)|He Jests at Scars...]]'' recently…) <span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 01:33, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 
::: Yeah, I think Scrooge has it right. (Personally, I think we ''should'' just cover most of this material at [[First Doctor#Alternate timelines]] et al – but that would take a forum thread. Sigh.) But I see what you mean about the policy violations, so tomorrow when I have time I'll make sure to scroll through PepsiMagnet's pages and fix any apparent issues, if someone doesn't beat me to it. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 02:26, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
 
== Re: Categories ==
 
The page '[[:category:Guest character images]]' states "A good rule of thumb for this category and all its subsidiaries is, "If there's more than one image of the person, they're probably notable enough to get their own category. If they're someone like [[Guard (Children of Earth)]], they probably don't."". This suggested to me that any character for whom multiple images (even crops) exist ''could'', within policy, have an image category. Does the [[T:3RULE|rule of three]] still apply to image categorisation? [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
 
==Request or Questions==
 
Dear Shambala108,
 
First of all, thank you for not banning me. That was kind.
When I come across links to articles that don’t exist, do I make a starter article?
There are some articles like this (unless wrong).
Like for example, instead of a full article, something like this (please don’t take it seriously. It’s an example)
 
The 15th Doctor is the Fifthteenth Incarnation of the Doctor.
 
 
Biography
 
To be added
 
Am I allowed to do that? Also, am I allowed to make those theory pages that people make or discontinuity pages?
Also, can you please add a photo for the Warrior in the Parallel Universes section of the Fifth Doctor article? I tried, but failed.
 
Thanks, [[PepsiMagnet]]
 
P.S, am I allowed to post wiki sandbox articles?
 
3:14pm, 8/13/2022
 
== Children's Online Privacy Protection Act ==
 
I'm Swear COPPA Should Be Removed, Because It's Takes Extremely Severely Restrictings Toward Childrens Under 13 to Join Social Media
 
== COPPA must be removed ==
 
COPPA must be removed, Because Plutonium-244 is an Very Rare Isotopes
 
== Rogue Timelord ==
 
We have a rogue timelord here: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/137.184.232.207. The QLord returns. 05:07, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 
== Re: Deletions ==
 
Many thanks. Wasn't aware of the (Proposed Deletion) bit, but will bare it in mind should I come across spammed pages. [[User:DJAitch|DJAitch]] [[User talk:DJAitch|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:20, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
 
== Crook ==
 
How is a thief not a crook? I've heard people who steal get called crooks. [[Sum41Champ]] 00:20, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
 
== Difference ==
 
As I see 0 difference between the words thief, burglar and crook etc, shouldn't they just merge into 1 page? {{unsigned|Sum41Champ}}
 
== Vandal ==
 
Hi there’s a vandal called Lizzie in a box trashing pages. It’s that “on wheels” bloke again by the looks of it [[User:Valeyard12.5|Valeyard12.5]] [[User talk:Valeyard12.5|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:45, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
 
== Wikify Own/Plagiarism/Sockpuppetry ==
 
Hey Shambala, hope you're doing alright. If you have the chance to look at the history at [[Russell McGee]] sometime that would be great. I have concerns because a user who goes by the username RussellMcGee77 repeatedly tried to edit it into basically being an advertisement for the author. A few days later (ie, last night) a new user with a different name made similar edits. Now, these edits could be coincidental, as the bio is from McGee's Goodreads, but he wrote his Goodreads bio, and if this is the case it's plagiarism, and if it's not it's a sockpuppet. I don't know what you want to do, I'd love to have a writer stick around and be a contributing member of the wiki ''outside of their own pages'', but this whole thing feels a bit suspicious to me. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:05, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
: Whoever edited that page should also be informed that charity publications do not receive individual story pages, as several have been set up with a red link. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:11, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
:: All of the current red-links on the page are for charity publications. The Temporal Logbook, the Unofficial Annual and Roving Reporter are all non-profit [[Charity publication]]s. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:18, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
 
:::So just whenever you want to get back to this, [[User:Emily Solt]] edited the page again, now using McGee's self written IMDB biography, which I reverted, and then edited in a new biography along with the edit summary:
::::  Najawin, Nick Krohn (https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/19012428.Nick_Krohn) rewrote this bio based upon IMDB/Goodreads. It’s not plagiarism as defined by this article: https://eat.scedt.tees.ac.uk/bb8content/resources/recipes/interpretTurnitin.pdf The original bio was rewritten with less than 25% of it being the original text. Additionally, by the wiki rules an article may be revised by someone other than the person the article is about. We’ve followed the wiki rules. Regards Emily
:::I've left the page alone, but the "we" caused me to do the slightest bit of digging, especially since Krohn has worked on projects with McGee, and [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5418914/ voila]. I think technically this isn't a violation of [[T:WIKIFY OWN]], but, well, it's dodgy enough that even though I'm leaving the page alone I'm bring it to the attention of an admin. (God, I feel like a creep for that.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:44, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
::::Any suggestions as to who? I asked you over Scrooge due to more experience with this wiki in particular, but maybe him? Or OS12 or SOTO? [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:57, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 
== You're right ==
 
I Don't intend to vandalize this site. I Do wonder however, how calling someone who steals a crook is wrong. Especially considering I've seen people who steal referred to as crooks. {{Unsigned|Sum41Champ}}
 
== When you've the time ==
 
Could you pop by [[Talk:Origins (comic story)]]? We've got a [[Man with the rosette]] situation where a character appears briefly, is not stated by the text to be a certain other particular character but could be inferred to be. Someone has asked the author, and the author has stated that this was the intent. A newer user is insisting that this means that we should identify the two. My understanding of the precedent is that this is speculation, as the author's intent is not a valid source. [[User:Epsilon the Eternal]] has also agreed that this is their understanding of the precedent, but the newer user is refusing to listen to us and is asking for an admin to clear it up. Cheers. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:31, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
 
== My birthday ==
 
From Sum41Champ, the 27th is my birthday
 
== Hurricane Ian ==
Yep! According to my weather gauge, we got about 20 inches of rain yesterday, but thank goodness the ponds and ditch soaked most of it up, so the house made it through with only minor damage. I hope your relatives stay safe and dry! – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 18:42, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
 
== [[Tocynnau]] ==
 
Hi. [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Tocynnau?diff=3145233&oldid=3145217 Over a year ago], you reverted a sensible move and told me to add the rename template and leave it to an admin. How's that going? [[User:CdeDBD|DBD]] [[User talk:CdeDBD|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:50, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
 
== Subpages proposal ==
Hi Shambala, I've written up [[T:SUBPAGE|a proposal]] over in my namespace for how we might take better advantage of the subpage functionality on this wiki. One of the particular issues it addresses is your closing statement to [[Thread:264489]], about length of story coverage on character pages. Since everything I've written there is building on the existing precedent of pages like [[Doctor Who Magazine/1985]], rather than changing or establishing any new policy, I'm hoping the proposal could get a tentative thumbs up from an admin without having to wait for the forums. If you get the chance to skim it and let me know what you think, I'd really appreciate it! Hope your family's well now that Ian's passed. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 17:38, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 
== Ukraine vs Russia ==
 
If you're ok with me wondering, have you seen their war? [[User:Sum41Champ]]
 
== Sheldon Cooper ==
 
Does he have relevance to mention here? [[User:Sum41Champ]]
 
== Discussions AbuseFilter ==
 
Hey! A new feature is available on Discussions - Discussions AbuseFilter (DAF). This is designed to be a tool to help moderation on Discussions, if certain behaviours are being disruptive and making manual moderation difficult:
 
* [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Special:DiscussionsAbuseFilter DAF page (not enabled yet but I can do)]
* [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:DToast/Introducing_Discussions_AbuseFilter Announcement blog]
* [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Discussions_AbuseFilter Help page]
 
Not compulsory for anyone to use it etc, just letting you know it's here. As a note about forums, I have asked Czech about it and I know he is aware it's still needed. If I can help with anything though, please give me a shout on here or Discord! --[[User:Spongebob456|Spongebob456]] <sup>[[User talk:Spongebob456|talk]]</sup> <staff/> 20:35, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
 
== Planets from the real world category ==
 
Just suggesting, though Planets from the real universe seem more fitting as those planets aren't on Earth.
 
== Blogs and new discussion settings ==
I'm having issues with getting new sections for new discussions and creating blogs here, as aren't those useful to this site? Also, Merry early Christmas. I Know this is a tad early, though as Christmas eve is in just over a month,  I'm giving early wishes.[[User:Sum41Champ]]
 
== Tellymustard ==
 
Hello, Shambala108. I hope this message finds you well.
 
While I was checking my Gmail after my Night Shift, I found [[https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Theory:Timeline_-_Fourteenth_Doctor?diff=3356539&oldid=3355223 this edit]] on the Fourteenth Doctor timeline theory page that matches the edit patterns of [[User:Tellymustard]], from [[https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.253.52.179 an unregstered account]] with no other edits and the single edit being made after their block. Since they have previously tried to get around their block by editing their talkpage, as seen [[https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/User_talk:Tellymustard?diff=3355424&oldid=3354999 here]], I fear they might be trying to bypass their exile with loopholes, which might warrant an investigation.
 
Unless the block included their IP address and I'm just jumping to conclusions, to which I apologies for wasting your time.


Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,  
Sincerely,  
[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:02, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


== UCP Platform ==
== Edit war ==
The platform makes some edits and things here difficult. Is said platform getting replaced in 2023 or ever? [[User:Sum41Champ]]


== Military edits here ==
Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at [[Beep the Meep]]. Wondering if you could help resolve it. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)


Isn't Military police an occupation you can add here, not just regular police.
== Re:Request for help ==


== Spouse ==
I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples.


I Was thinking this wiki should link husband and wife to spouse as all stuff on those pages can get on the spouse page. [[User:Sum41Champ]]
I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past.


== Re:Vandalism ==
I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless.


K, I am so sorry for breaking 2 policies in a day. I won't do any of that stuff again. Reading up on the vandalism rules what I did seems to breach the blanking policies. But just as a curiousity what about deleting the categories as simply a way of isolating the vandalism? [[User:Tellymustard|Tellymustard]] [[User talk:Tellymustard|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:44, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious.


== Edit Summaries ==
I think all users can have their issues, and while Epsilon has had a few citations against them in the past, there have been extraneous circumstances around those in some regards.


Apologies. I'm in the middle of finals season so I've been a little on edge recently so I snapped a tad, I am sorry. I let my frustrations show in a way that was not helpful to anyone. [[User:Editoronthewiki|Editoronthewiki]] [[User talk:Editoronthewiki|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:57, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)


== Tellymustard II ==
== [[AudioGO]] ==


Greetings, Shambala108. I hope this message finds you well.  
Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


I wish to discuss the actions of User:Tellymustard, and how they seem to have misinterpreted the reason for their blocking; they seem to think they were banned for controversial edits, when those who complained were actually talking about their attitude and language to constructive feedback on their edits, as well as discriminatory remarks about a minority group. I was hoping you could clear up the air with them, since I do not believe they would listen to me, for reasons that should become clear in a bit.
== My "Who vs elsewhere" polls ==


I fear they have not learnt from their month long exile, since, in the few days since their return, they have broken two policies that you are already aware of, restarted the edit wars they began prior to their ban, continued to use profanity (admittedly when describing their past behavior), contributed to those "(age)-girl lives in (place)" pages instead of putting them up for deletion, and messaged other users to have them overlook their sandboxes like teacher marking a paper. And even then, they uploaded the sandbox changes to main pages when they got impatient for approval from non-Admin users that didn't ask for such responsibility. They're even talking about certain users on other talk pages that invites other users to see them as an authority to be sought out when they are not admins. The thing that I took as an insult, however, was the ranking system on the Seventh Doctor talk page you saw, where I was ranked lowest, even beneath the new editor User:Tellymustard, despite having been editing the longest on their ranking list, which I can only see as them trying to belittle my own contributions to the Wiki.
Hello,
 
But I could let all that slide if it weren't for this (unsigned) message they left on my talkpage;
:: ''Why I am sending this I don't know I should just die.''
 
Now, I don't know if they have a clinical depression, but I have battled with such things in the past, with friends and my own demons, and this did trigger me, particularly because I read it while on lunch break at work and was trying to relax. This Wiki, especially my talk page, is meant to be a safe place, and now because of talkpage policy, I can't even remove it; I got to look at it and be reminded of a harder time in my life every time I scroll through message. I was so upset I nearly had a panic attack, but I remembered my coping mechanisms and was able to return to work.
 
Initially, I was going to request they be banned again for leaving such triggering phrases on a talkpage, but I decided to wait a few days to calm down and I relalised how dramatic that sounded. Instead, I was hoping you could have a word with them about how we talk to each other and respect fellow editors on this wiki, even if it is as worthy opponents in depates.
 
Thank you for listening, it feels so good to get this off my chest.
 
P.S. Incidentally, a Merry Christmas to you.
[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:50, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
:Just as an additional comment, they added a section of threads to be worked on with the forums in [[User:Najawin/Sandbox 5|The List]], but before their name put "Unimportant users reccomendations". I, quite frankly, didn't care about their self flagellation, but Bongo deleted it. Just to note that this is very much a recurring trend even after their block. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:01, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 
:I was looking at recent edits on this wiki and came accross this, I am sorry for replying to a message intended only for shambala but I just thought I needed to say something about this. I think your comment I am replying to is perfectly fair. To help with this exchange I thought I might mention that I do not have clinical deppression (My school counseller tried to get me diagnosed with it but I call that nonesense). I can sort of imagine how that feels to have that brought back to you though because I was psychologically abused at school for 2 years by my "friends", I see now that I was not actually their friend and just their coping strategy to deal with their insecurities. But I sometimes feel a bout of a feeling of sadness and emptiness and I feel like there's nothing for me that exists in the universe when I remember that time. I am truely sorry, I cant even imagine how much years of clinical depression does to you.
 
:Also I think you misread the importance ranking because I did not rank your importance lower than mine on that list, I had me at a 0.75, because I was just banned it really should be a 0.5, while yours was at a 0.9 which really should of been more like a 1.2. About the asking sarahjanefan about the eleventh doctor timeline thing, I just decided that he must be busy and I didnt want to use up his time. [[User:Tellymustard|Tellymustard]] [[User talk:Tellymustard|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:31, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
 
:: I've changed my mind, I am now requesting User:Tellymustard be banned. Not only have they continued to message me unneeded messages with just a "kk", they are still inserting themselves into other user's talkpages to try and get themselves out of trouble by playing to our sympathies, but have only shown that they had no reason to write the triggering phrases due to lacking a registered mental condition. Even worse, they try to give an example, only to aggravated the situation by reminding myself of schoolmates who would take advantage of the Autism to get me in trouble for their amusement and discredited me on the ground of me being neurodivergent to avoid consequences; my own father would call me diseased for it. And they are not even apologetic about the ranking, just regretful for how users were ranked. Coupled with User:Najawin's comment about their changes to their Sandbox, which I believe violates a policy regarding Sandboxes being for the original editor alone, and their insistence on edit waring to get their way on timeline pages, showcases that they did not learn from their original ban, and a longer one could allow them to understand how their disrespectful actions are unwelcomed on the wiki. I've been feeling so harassed and triggered by their messages that it is beginning to affect my work - I actually yelled at a colleague due to being overstressed and overthinking how hated I felt for being psychologically abused myself in my teen years by my own family! I think I'm gonna take a few days off the wiki until I feel better and can feel safe editing again. Sincerely, [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:39, 20 December 2022 (UTC).
 
::: I wasn't trying to make it worse, I am sorry, I didnt know that last comment would trigger you more. I was just trying to appologise and be understanding that your situation was 100 times worse than mine and how you must feel. [[User:Tellymustard|Tellymustard]] [[User talk:Tellymustard|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:33, 20 December 2022 (UTC)


== Re: user page ==
Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh?


Ok, I fixed this. I hope it is all good now. Also please know I didn't mean to trigger bananaclownman more with that last comment. I just meant to show that I somewhat understand and that I appologise. I am not saying this to get a way out of anything, I am just being honest. [[User:Tellymustard|Tellymustard]] [[User talk:Tellymustard|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:44, 20 December 2022 (UTC)
[[User:Kevin &#39;Chalky&#39; Kaiba|Kevin &#39;Chalky&#39; Kaiba]] [[User talk:Kevin &#39;Chalky&#39; Kaiba|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


== Sum41Champ ==
== Merry Christmas And Happy New Year ==


Can you please have another talk with this user or even just block them for a week or so? I'm really not a fan of blocks when people are editing in good faith, but they're not listening to people telling them that their edits are in violation of our policies, even when we do so over and over again. It's just causing more work for others. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:12, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward [[User:Sum41Champ]]


== Links and grammar fixing ==
== RE: Sockpuppet ==


I Was wondering if you can perhaps send me some pages needing links or grammar fixing. Happy New Year. [[User:Sum41Champ]]
Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have [[Help:CheckUser|CheckUser]] access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion!


== Temporary Forums Are Live! ==
Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Happy holidays.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 18:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Hello!


Just wanted to notify you that, [[User:CzechOut]]'s final deadline of "by New Year's Day" having passed, and following in-depth discussion between myself and fellow admins [[User:SOTO]], [[User:OncomingStorm12th]] and [[User:Bongolium500]], we have decided to '''activate [[Tardis:Temporary forums]]''', come what may. A [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice|sitenotice]] has been set to inform the community of this development, and I am taking it upon myself to personally update [[Tardis:Administrators|our Administrators]] on the situation, as well as yourself.
: I just wanted to mention that [[User:Spongebob456]] is probably the easiest Fandom staff member to contact for things like this as he's our wiki rep. He's who I've gone to for a few similar requests in the past (which I've done through his Discord but you could probably do through his talk page). [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)


As the name implies, we hope the Temporary Forums will remain — well — temporary. Any work on reactivating proper DPL Forums will still be welcome and appreciated; this system is a further fine-tuning of the setup Bongolium500 had proposed in December 2021, which it means is designed from the ground up to be '''easy to transfer into the actual DPL Forums''' if we should get those back in the near future after all.  
:: And that's exactly who I went to, in fact! But no problem at all.


But it has been ''multiple years'' since the Wiki has had a venue for changing policy and forming community consensus on important matters. Bongolium500 and SOTO put forward the first draft of the Temporary Forums a full ''year'' ago — and were convinced to retract it by a promise that the real Forums would come ‘very soon’; and here we are. I don't think anyone's at fault; I do think everyone has the Wiki's best interests at heart. But the time has come to realise that the overly-optimistic strategy of endlessly putting off an imperfect temporary solution in pursuit of a perfect one "soon" has failed, resoundingly. It is time for a different approach. The Tardis community are ''owed'' a different approach. If you ''have'' active DPL Forums to give us, we will take them gladly. But we cannot sacrifice one more promising alternative to a nebulous future possibility which has already proven more difficult to achieve that you'd expected several times over. It is our hope that you can understand respect our decision in this matter.  
:: Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers{{User:SOTO/sig}} 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)


We [[four surviving elementals|four elementals]] behind the Temporary Forums would like to reassure the rest of the admin team that this necessary step '''is not intended to create more work for them unbidden'''. Four are, if it comes to that, plenty enough to keep the peace a Forum with no more than six threads running at a time; we would be thrilled to see the rest of the team embracing the Temporary Forums, but please don't feel any ''obligation'' to do so.
== Spacing with categories ==


Happy New Year, happy editing — and happy contribution to the New Forums!
What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. [[User:Sum41Champ]]


<span style="color: #baa3d6;font-family:Comic Sans;">[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']]</span> <span style="color: #baa3d6;">[[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]</span> 11:03, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
== Trying to locate a missing thread ==
Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section:


== The Doctor’s page ==
''As detailed at [[Thread:264489]], character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.''


Hi I’ve noticed on the Doctor’s page that it has a picture depicting twelve of their incarnations looking over Gallifrey (Day of the Doctor). However it shows all the stand ins for the past Doctors instead of the image shown from the episode. As I have no idea how to change this, perhaps someone else can do it. [[User:Valeyard12.5|Valeyard12.5]] [[User talk:Valeyard12.5|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:54, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
As you can see though, this link to said thread is red, hence doesn't take me anywhere when I click it.


== Should there be a 15th Doctor page right now? ==
Per some users (anonymous editors) removing it from the page, I began to do some digging as to the thread itself, in preparation for setting myself on the task of shortening down the Doctor articles myself in time, having already began work doing so with the CS links per my conversation with [[User:Scrooge MacDuck]]. In doing so, I discovered you are the one who added said template onto the Doctor articles back in 2020 (see the following link as an example: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Twelfth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3015495 )
It has basically been 100% confirmed that <REDACTED> is <REDACTED> and on the <REDACTED> page a link to a page about <REDACTED> is supposed to be there but since it isn't it's red. Should we have a page for <REDACTED> now? {{Unsigned|GaisterWoodGuy}}


== Apologies/clarification ==
Therefore, are you able to provide me information as to the thread itself or link me to the archive where it is stored? I don't want to trouble myself shortening all the articles if this thread has been superceded or reverted, hence does not actually have to be acted upon now. In which case, I could take to removing the templates from the Doctor's articles instead.
 
Hello.
 
I'm sorry for the "what does one have to do?" page.
 
I was not asking anybody if they could put a word in for my idea for TPTB. My post was me expressing my confusion about how the expanded universe has had a plethora of writers who've been brought in, for what seems to be their first job (not having heard of any of them, it seems), and yet my idea for a show has more or less been nipped in the bud, thanks to recent audio releases.
 
The question was simply me asking "what does one have to do" to get an idea brought to life, or even seen.
 
[[User:Kevin &#39;Chalky&#39; Kaiba|Kevin &#39;Chalky&#39; Kaiba]] [[User talk:Kevin &#39;Chalky&#39; Kaiba|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:42, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
 
== Re: Vrs ==
…yes, I know. I should hope you can trust that by now I know edit-history exists. I was being rhetorical. It doesn't actually matter who did this, it just had to be corrected. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 16:01, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
: 'salright. Misunderstandings happen. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 04:21, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 
== Anniversary ==
I see the edit on your user page – wow! Congratulations, and thank you for everything you've done to make the wiki the place we love :) – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 11:08, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 
== Heads up about the thanks extension ==
 
Hi. I just wanted to give you a heads up that Tardis is testing the "thanks" extension which Fandom will be rolling out to all wikis soon. This extension allows editors to thank other editors for their edits. The editor being thanked will then recieve a notification. Therefore, while you're actively performing edits, you may receieve a few more notifications than normal. If you notice any bugs, pass them onto [[User:Spongebob456]]. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:57, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 
:That's not something that I'm interested in. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:27, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
 
:: That's completely understandable. I was just informed that I should let you know so that you're not surprised if you start receiving notifications of people thanking you for edits. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:36, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 
::: I've found that you can disable these notifications in [[Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-emailv2|Special:Preferences]]. It's the penultimate option under email notifications and at the bottom of the whole page for web notifications. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:41, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
 
== Pain ==
 
On the page pain, is the detail of pain can be an emotional thing a good or bad edit here on my part? [[User:Sum41Champ]]
 
== My real name ==
 
I was deleting it for a reason, it’s because I don’t want my name to be viewed on social media. I’m trying to keep it private, so I’m asking you politely to not restore my name back in that talk page again please. I’m trying to keep myself and my name to be viewed by anyone on social media, again I’m gonna ask you kindly to not restore it. [[User:Anonymously202|Anonymously202]] [[User talk:Anonymously202|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:49, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
 
== Hermione Granger ==
I Deleted what was on the page, as someone put vulgarity on the page. [[User:Sum41Champ]]
 
== My links ==
I've decided to work on linking things on this site. How do you think I've done? [[User:Sum41Champ]]
 
== Hello you locked one of my posts ==
 
I apologise I did not mean to cause offence my intention was a criticism of in universe individuals not real people if this was not made clear then I am sorry. [[User:Anastasia Cousins|Anastasia Cousins]] [[User talk:Anastasia Cousins|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:27, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 
== Forum Validity a better world. ==
 
The Forum for the validity of a better world has at some interesting developments, with lots of accusations of bad faith and going of topic and weather a criticism is valid or not and it personally think it has become a bit of a mess. I don’t know who is in the wrong or whether anyone is but I do think someone should have a look to see if anything needs sorting out or not. It may need an intervention. I think the primary topic is important. It is also confused by the author of said story being in the forum and an admin whilst they did help early on  this is what in the end caused the bad faith accusations to be thrown around and I just don’t know what to do so as you are an admin I trust I am telling you because I want to know if anything needs to be done or not? [[User:Anastasia Cousins|Anastasia Cousins]] [[User talk:Anastasia Cousins|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:25, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 
== Epsilon's false accusation ==
 
Hello,


I have come to you as I am aware that you were the admin that made the note at [[Talk:Walking in Eternity]] about users derailing threads by making accusations of rulebreaks. [[User:Epsilon the Eternal]] is a repeat offender of this and has accused me of making libelious comments against [[Big Finish]] at [[Talk:Fifteenth Doctor]]. This sort of behaviour is clearly in the aim of discouraging people from continuing discussions in fear of getting banned, and honestly it is absolutely disgusting. I am appealing to you to pass a punishment against Epsilon to send the message that this sort of behaviour isn't tolerated as I am at my wits end. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:29, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
Looking forward to your reply. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue">  </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)


== Do you think these pages should be merged? ==
:On this subject Shambala, it ''does'' still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in [[Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0]], as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at [[User:SOTO/Forum Archive]]. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


I think all of the sex related pages should be merged. I feel like the topic isn't big enough in the whoniverse for it to need seperate pages. It would be more organized if all sex related things were on the "Sex" page. [[User:Sliderhostmimic|Sliderhostmimic]] [[User talk:Sliderhostmimic|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:12, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits.  


== Boy (Future Generations) ==
From what [[User:Bongolium500]] sent me, it appears there's still the intention for the articles to be trimmed down as the template requests, it just seems no one - or very few editors - are actually bothering to do it, hence the templates remaining after 3 and a bit years of its request being placed. Same could be said for the CS link conversion since a mix of editors still use variants of the old format. If the task to do it is still needed though, and hence isn't going to be a waste of my time, I can begin implementing the change.


What's wrong with me putting the category involving his name is unknown? [[User:Sum41Champ]]
Thank you once more for responding to me message! [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue">  </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)


== Admin+ ==
== Follow Up ==


Hey there! I’m reaching out to introduce the Admin+ program (if you haven’t heard about it already!) & let you know I’m here if you have any questions about it. Take a look at the details [https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Admin_Plus here] & feel free to send over any questions you have. <span style="font-family: Rubik; border-radius:8em; padding:0 5px; background:#d58494">[[User:Pikushi|<span style="color:#f1f5ff">pikushi ✧.*</span>]] </span>  <staff /> 20:25, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. [[User:Sum41Champ]]


== My birthday ==
== Re: Edits ==


I'm 26 today in my timezone, as I'm 6 hours behind Fandom's timezone. [[User:Sum41Champ]]
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. [[User:BlueSupergiant|BlueSupergiant]] [[User talk:BlueSupergiant|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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Something you might want to look into[[edit source]]

Hello, User:Shambala108.

Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit here, where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, User:Epsilon the Eternal still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, Rose Noble, had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns.

I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion, reverted edits based on actions not yet taken, put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves, indulge in rude wording on multiple occasions (even using the name of the Lord in vain), and engaged in unneeded hostilities on talk pages.

I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters.

Thank you for your time. Sincerely, BananaClownMan ☎ 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Edit war[[edit source]]

Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at Beep the Meep. Wondering if you could help resolve it. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Re:Request for help[[edit source]]

I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples.

I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past.

I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless.

I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious.

I think all users can have their issues, and while Epsilon has had a few citations against them in the past, there have been extraneous circumstances around those in some regards.

We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --Tangerineduel / talk 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

AudioGO[[edit source]]

Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

My "Who vs elsewhere" polls[[edit source]]

Hello,

Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh?

Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba ☎ 22:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Merry Christmas And Happy New Year[[edit source]]

Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward User:Sum41Champ

RE: Sockpuppet[[edit source]]

Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have CheckUser access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion!

Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Happy holidays.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 18:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

I just wanted to mention that User:Spongebob456 is probably the easiest Fandom staff member to contact for things like this as he's our wiki rep. He's who I've gone to for a few similar requests in the past (which I've done through his Discord but you could probably do through his talk page). Bongo50 ☎ 18:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
And that's exactly who I went to, in fact! But no problem at all.
Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

Spacing with categories[[edit source]]

What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. User:Sum41Champ

Trying to locate a missing thread[[edit source]]

Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section:

As detailed at Thread:264489, character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.

As you can see though, this link to said thread is red, hence doesn't take me anywhere when I click it.

Per some users (anonymous editors) removing it from the page, I began to do some digging as to the thread itself, in preparation for setting myself on the task of shortening down the Doctor articles myself in time, having already began work doing so with the CS links per my conversation with User:Scrooge MacDuck. In doing so, I discovered you are the one who added said template onto the Doctor articles back in 2020 (see the following link as an example: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Twelfth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3015495 )

Therefore, are you able to provide me information as to the thread itself or link me to the archive where it is stored? I don't want to trouble myself shortening all the articles if this thread has been superceded or reverted, hence does not actually have to be acted upon now. In which case, I could take to removing the templates from the Doctor's articles instead.

Looking forward to your reply. Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

On this subject Shambala, it does still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0, as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at User:SOTO/Forum Archive. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) Najawin ☎ 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits.

From what User:Bongolium500 sent me, it appears there's still the intention for the articles to be trimmed down as the template requests, it just seems no one - or very few editors - are actually bothering to do it, hence the templates remaining after 3 and a bit years of its request being placed. Same could be said for the CS link conversion since a mix of editors still use variants of the old format. If the task to do it is still needed though, and hence isn't going to be a waste of my time, I can begin implementing the change.

Thank you once more for responding to me message! Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

Follow Up[[edit source]]

I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. User:Sum41Champ

Re: Edits[[edit source]]

Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. BlueSupergiant ☎ 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

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