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|"Rule 4 by proxy": a necessary update to [[T:VS]]<br />Detailed proposal/opening post can be read at [[User:Scrooge_MacDuck/Sandbox_Eta|this sandbox]].<br />(<small>'''Note:''' If accepted, thread would fold in, or otherwise reshape, multiple inclusion debates suggested above.</small>)<br>[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]]
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Revision as of 18:17, 11 January 2023

Due to the current lack of a proper forum system, this temporary forum system has been created as a stand-in to allow essential community discussions to take place. This system will be used until the regular system is re-instated by those with the power to do so.

To propose a thread for discussion, add it to the bottom of the table in the proposed threads section below. If you would like an already created thread to be discussed, you can sign your name next to the proposed thread to show support.

To maximise the number of topics and issues that can be discussed in as short a time as possible, there can only be 6 active threads at once, each with a timelimit of 3 weeks. This is to encourage people to focus on a small number of issues rather than try to tackle too much and lose focus. If no consensus has been reached in this time limit, the thread will be closed as unresolved and may be discussed further at a later date. Threads closed as unresolved will be added to the bottom of the proposal table where they must regain signatures to be discussed again. When a current thread is closed, the thread idea with the most support (tiebroken by precedence)[1] will be selected from the proposal table to be discussed next. A discussion space for it will then be created by an admin in one of the slots listed below.

When proposing threads, please bear in mind that they should be actionable within the timelimit and that they should affect a large number of pages or otherwise have a significant impact on the wiki and its readers. Proposed threads that don't meet these criteria may not be selected for discussion, at least until other threads that do meet these criteria have been discussed. Note that this does mean that, while you may still propose and support these proposals, specific validity debates about specific stories or series may not be selected for discussion in the immediate future as they generally do not have a wide enough impact on the wiki as a whole.

Current threads

Only 6 threads can be open at once, each with a timelimit of 3 weeks.

Thread slot Thread topic Deadline for consensus
Slot 1 Allowing invalid appearances and mentions in lists of appearances as well as using sortable tables to format them. 30th January
Slot 2 Shaping subpage policy 23rd January
Slot 3 Redoing the main page and transmats to bring it all up to date with the current era and branding and highlight more non-televised media. 27th January
Slot 4 Currently unused
Slot 5 Currently unused
Slot 6 Currently unused

Proposed threads

To propose a topic to be discussed, please add it to the "thread topic" column of this table, alongside your name (see below for how to add it easily).

To support a pre-existing proposal, add your name to the "support" column by entering "~~~" (note that this is only 3 "~", not the usual 4, as the date your signature was added is not important) as a new argument in the {{PS}} template: in short, before "}}", type "|~~~".

When an admin has decided to greenlight the proposed thread, they will indicate this in the "verdict" column, and the thread can be opened in one of the "slots" in the above section.

Thread topic Support Verdict
Changing/tweaking of the Tardis:Spoiler policy.
Danniesen ☎
Validity debate: Peter Cushing as Dr. Who
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Validity debate: Scream of the Shalka
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Finding an alternative to using "(TV story)" for episodes that do not actually constitute a story, e.g. The Empty Child and The Halloween Apocalypse
Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎
3 supporters
Validity debate: Death Comes to Time
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Validity debate: Vienna
Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎
General validity debate for "commercial stories" such as DWBIT Dalek Wars and Big Finish Productions webcasts.
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Validity debate: Dimensions in Time
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Validity debate: Dermot and the Doctor
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Re-examining and discussing how the wiki understands "valid sources" and a potential proposed major change to T:VS to eliminate bias and arbitrary restrictions, hopefully preceding any validity inclusion debates. (Note: this itself does not intend to change the validity status of any sources, but is for when they are discussed.)
Chubby Potato ☎
Validity debate: Whatever Happened to Susan Foreman?
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Validity debate: An Adventure in Space and Time
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
General validity debate for "non-narrative fiction".
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Validity debate: Doctor Who: Legacy
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Validity debate for the "alternate reality" online games (The Last Dalek, K9: Deja Who, Daleks v Cybermen).
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Validity debate: Introduction to the Night
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Validity debate: Search Out Space
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
The usage of galleries on in-universe articles in the same vein as Memory Alpha (example).
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Standardizing dab terms for in-universe counterparts of things related to the real world Doctor Who franchise. Currently (N-Space) is the proposal, but an alternative is to change completely to (In Universe).
Najawin ☎
Validity debate: Biographies of Authors in The Book of the Enemy. Should be easy to solve within three weeks, but needs a thread.
Najawin ☎
Formalizing some language into T:BOUND relating to how "policy" also means on this wiki "the way we currently do things".
Najawin ☎
Formal rules regarding navboxes, similar to T:IBOX.
Najawin ☎
Discuss conflict of interest rules regarding relatives/close friends editing wiki pages. See Russell McGee.
Najawin ☎
"Splitting" UNIT. The UNIT page shouldn't cover info that really belongs on UNIT-UK, but there is more naunce to this I can't explain briefly here.
Replacing {{Docpic}} and the like with tabbed galleries due to their buginess and lack of mobile functionality.
Bongo50 ☎
Interpreting the "neutral" in Tardis:Neutral point of view on in-universe pages.
Chubby Potato ☎
Changing/tweaking of the Tardis:Image use policy.
Danniesen ☎
Changing/tweaking of the Tardis:Video policy.
Danniesen ☎
Creating a "Content Warning" template to warn users of potentially sensitive material in articles (subjects that may cause distress, et al.)

WaltK

Validity debate: Doctor Who? and The Daft Dimension.

WaltK

Changing/tweaking of the Tardis:Guide to images.
Danniesen ☎
Adding "unproduced" to dab terms of unproduced stories: for instance, Creatures of Habit (unproduced comic story)
n8 (☎)
Allowing character names from novelisations in page titles
n8 (☎)
Applying Tardis:Romana to other Time Lord incarnations, such as moving First Morbius to Morbius I. See Talk:First Morbius for details and clarification.
n8 (☎)
Differentiating between unproduced and unreleased stories (e.g. Absent Friends)
WaltK
Determining whether LEGO Dimensions trailers, spotlight videos and the like that only contain DWU links via gameplay footage (as opposed to specially-made footage) actually qualify for pages.
WaltK
Using the "Support/Oppose/Neutral/Lukewarm" structure to organize these forum discussions.
n8 (☎)
How exactly do we treat the Casanova crossover?
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Changing/tweaking of Tardis:Don't over-wikify.
Danniesen ☎
Working out the most optimal way to cover alternate reality games. As they typically comprise of one narrative, and virtually every other resource on the internet treats each ARGs as a single story, we should not split it up in the way we have with FindTheDoctor (series), for example.
In/validating information that only appears in foreign language translations (see GoldenEye 007)
WaltK
Loosely related to the above: creating a series of "DWU around the world" pages, that go in depth about DWU media as it is presented in non-English-speaking regions (stuff like when it first arrived in that region, what has and hasn't been localised there, listing any notable translation quirks, et al.), with it being emphasised that no info from these pages should spill out onto the rest of the wiki unless editorially justified.
WaltK
Splitting the Doctor's sonic screwdriver
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Validity debate: Attack of the Graske
MrThermomanPreacher ☎
Discuss creating a proper footer navbox to link all incarnations and versions of the Doctor (as opposed to the tiny, limited navbox currently seen under the infobox).
PintlessMan ☎
Discussion on further reduction of pages related to derogatory language/slurs, with relevant information being reformatted and consolidated into Racism and Homophobia, where it can be presented in its fullest context.
JDPManjoume ☎
Invalidity debate: The Curse of Fatal Death
Najawin ☎
Validity debate: Fourth wall-breaking sources such as COMIC: Pugwash Ahoy!, especially as episodes of Doctor Who itself break the fourth wall (e.g. "The Feast of Steven"), and are unquestionably valid.
Cookieboy 2005 ☎
In contrast to the mere validity discussion User:Cookieboy 2005 is suggesting, I suggest we open up a larger discussion about how this wiki handles varying levels of metafiction in general, such as Life-Cycle or The Editor.
Najawin ☎
0 supporters
Discussion of "Quickstart" guides and "cliffsnotes" recaps in preparation for the 60th and beyond, either in their own namespace, or in the theory namespace. (See discussion on updating our main page theme.)
Najawin ☎
Figuring out the exact context of the jokes in the Knock! Knock! Who's There? joke book.
WaltK
2 supporters
Discussion of how best to cover lost media with missing narrative details, and a new set of templates a la {{unprod}} and {{unproduced stories}} to go alongside. This also cover unreleased stories, depending on how we decide to interpret "lost media".
Overhauling our citation system, including citation templates and clarifying prefix policy.
n8 (☎)
Clarifying the exact nature of The Trial of a Time Lord and Flux
Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎
1 supporter
Creating guidelines to determine which characters should be considered companions in story infoboxes
Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎
2 supporters
Validity Debate: Children's Ward
Tellymustard ☎
0 supporters
Validity debate: The Dr. Men series.
WaltK
1 supporter
Clarify T:DON'T COPY to reallow Timewalkerauthor's story summaries, which were removed because he had also posted them to his blog.
n8 (☎)
2 supporters
"Rule 4 by proxy": a necessary update to T:VS
Detailed proposal/opening post can be read at this sandbox.
(Note: If accepted, thread would fold in, or otherwise reshape, multiple inclusion debates suggested above.)
Scrooge MacDuck ⊕
2 supporters

Archived threads

Main article: Tardis:Temporary forums/Archive

Once consensus has been reached and a thread has been closed, or once a thread has reached the 3 week limit, it will be moved by an admin to a subpage of Tardis:Temporary forums/Archive. An index of archived threads can be found on this page.

Footnotes

  1. ↑ In the case of a tie, the thread proposed earliest generally gets priority. This should be the thread higher up in the table as threads are ordered by date added.
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