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"Unused" images (continued)
What is it with both you and Skittles? Today, you've both archived pages while you were in the middle of conversation with me, leading to an edit conflict because of archiving. You could've at least left the open discussion thread on the new page so the conversation flow wasn't interrupted.
But anyway, yeah, let's make it a full week. So on Sunday, you delete the old and markup the new. Or if you'd like, I can take care of deletion with the bot, which'll be quicker.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">18:29:48 Fri 15 Apr 2011
Duplicates: things to consider
On the matter of duplicates, please be careful. A cropped image isn't a duplicate. For instance, you called file:Cleanup.jpg and file:Cleanup2.jpg duplicates, and that's not true. There are good technical reasons why an editor might want Cleanup2 versus Cleanup. And, likewise, there are times where you want the widescreen dimensions of Cleanup. Also, you can tell from the colour balance that they aren't the same pic. They might have been taken from the same instant of Spearhead, but they're not the same.
possibly from the VHS
definitely from the DVD
Note the completely different orientation of the pics. I did the second version precisely because I needed something "longer", so that it would slide neatly down the left side of a template. You'll see me doing this sort of thing all the time, because there are occasions it's important to try to get an image to fit a precise space. (See, for instance, the remarkably difficult file:TenThin.jpg and file:TenThinner.jpg.) You're going to find, I think, that we're going to get "thinner" versions of a lot of images, now that we can put pics in navboxes and the standard width for navbox pics is 85px. That width means that we cannot use images as they are; we have to specifically manufacture them. Same thing is true with top-of-page images like File:Update200px.jpg. That pic comes from another one at full widescreen dimensions. But it had to be cut down to fit 200px. This means that there are two reasonably similar pics on the site, with perhaps even the same basic orientation, but for two totally different purposes.
Transparency
Another thing to remember is the importance of transparency.
Same pic, right? Not at all. The one on the left has McDaid's original background, whereas the one on the right is a transparency. Useful to have both; sometimes you need a transparent version of an image, sometimes you don't.
"File links" can be wrong
With pages in the file namespace, a link on the file page is only displayed when it's normally referenced. That is, if you put the actual picture on a page, it shows up under "File links". If you just link to the name, it doesn't. For instance, compare file:McDaidSketch.jpg#File links with Special:WhatLinksHere/File:McDaidSketch.jpg. What you find is that there's one more link under "What Links Here" than there is under "File links". "File links" does not report instances where you link to the name of a file; it only reports places where the image is on display.
In other words, it's possible to have a file apparently having no links, when in fact there are links to it. In this case, the non-image-generating link is rather important, because it's a part of the copyright explanation for file:ComicStub.png.
Moral of the lesson is that only "What Links Here" gives an accurate report of whether there are any links to the file.
Summary
"Duplicate" means exact duplicate (or something so close to exact as to make no odds). The two pairs of pictures are just the tip of the iceberg of similar versions that should be allowed to remain on the site. Check the dimensions, check the colour balance, check the "What Links Here" before even proposing deletion. We should be getting rid of true duplicates (as listed at Tardis:duplicate images). But we should exercise extreme caution when getting rid different versions of the same image.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">18:29:48 Fri 15 Apr 2011
Series 6 trailer removal
I see that you removed the series 6 trailer that was on Series 6 (Doctor Who), citing the reasons that it "mucked up format". Well, that's a fairly weak rationale, since the series pages largely have no format. They will, eventually, but they certainly don't now. Unless you count centering a logo at the top of the page a "format". I definitely agree that it was in a bad place — why Ghastly would have buried it in the middle of a sentence and set it at 300px — is beyond me. These pages are missing infoboxen, which is really where these trailers should probably go, but I don't see any particular harm in sliding them right under the logo on the right-hand side.
We need to remember that our video policy does in fact allow for videos released to YouTube by the copyright holders. Throwing such a video off the page, and suggesting that the user "put it on [their] user page", isn't in the spirit of that policy. Trailers are uniquely appropriate descriptors of a story or a season, so we should use them where legally available.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">17:01:33 Sat 16 Apr 2011
Re:Suggestion
Well, on the flip side, why didn't you go to the talkpage earlier, instead of ignoring me? If there is a disagreement, then the arguers are to go to the TP. You are disputing my edit, so you are go to the TP to discuss the issue, right? --Bold Clone 19:20, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah I suppose thats fair, although over 48 hours is way past the cooling off period we have, isn't it around 2 hours? --Revan\Talk 20:14, April 18, 2011 (UTC)
Re: Under the line
Having wondered for a long time what the gold and green symbols mean on The Howling, I appreciate that you've know enlightened me to that. I just wanted to say 'thanks'. Gallifrey102 21:32, April 19, 2011 (UTC)
Block
You were quite right in correcting my mistake of no reason given. I have now given one so I have reintroduced the block. Evidence of his misconduct can be seen at Forum:Proposed Deletion of Blue, Red and White humanoids - Yes or No. Thanks----Skittles the hog--Talk 21:33, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
Did you read the page? He clearly states his thoughts that I am a dick. That's profanity, which is against the Tardis:No personal attacks policy. You can clearly see this on the forum link above on his latest post. I think its such an obvious act that it doesn't really need a third party view, however I accept that your opinion may differ and so apologise if you think I'm being unfair. The user is clearly aggressive. Nearly all his posts include such profanity and he then aimed it at me. Bit over the line in my opinion. Anyway, thanks for looking into it.----Skittles the hog--Talk 21:45, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
References
How come we can't reference from Doctor Who Spoilers? Most of the references I do on the site are from DWS and they haven't been changed... If anything, wouldn't they have better information than Doctor Who TV and TARDIS Spoilers? TheTARDIScontroller 22:30, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
Alright, I understand now... Sorry about the whole angrily intended messages lol TheTARDIScontroller 22:59, April 22, 2011 (UTC)
Spoiler Policy
Just a quick question about the spoiler policy: when are spoilers allowed to be posted from the newest episodes: immediately after the airing of the episode in the UK, or after the episode has premiered on all the different counries? --Bold Clone 19:44, April 23, 2011 (UTC)
Why?
Why did you revert my edit here: http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=Series_6_%28Doctor_Who%29&action=historysubmit&diff=572684&oldid=572683 ? It was proven correct and I annotated the episode. -- Rest In Peace Sarah Jane \ Talk to me! 14:55, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
- Again...removed with no explanation. Why? Also, why were you so sarcastic to me on Joy's talk page? Maybe if you explained things instead of being rude, I could learn how this place operates. -- Rest In Peace Sarah Jane \ Talk to me! 17:52, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
River Song
The Trading Card is marked "The Impossible Astronaut" and that episode has aired. Also revalations don't always have to come from episodes which has been proven many times before. Michael Downey 17:40, April 25, 2011 (UTC)
17th century years
Since most of the years in this century would have little or no information, it would be easier to have all the years on one page the way it is now, just like the centuries prior to the 15th are all on one page (Early human history). Doug86 21:34, April 27, 2011 (UTC)
- You said earlier on my talk page that if a year has a recorded event, then it goes on page for that year. However, all the specified years from the beginning of time to the end of the 14th century don't have their own pages, but are listed on the Distant past and Early human history pages. This is to keep down the number of year pages which would have no information in them. Since the centuries after the 15th wouldn't really count as "early" history, they have their own pages, but the specific years are still not given their own pages because only a few years of each century have any data on them. In fact, I think that the only centuries where we can justify having individual year pages are the 19th, 20th, and 21st, and I think most of the other Admins would agree with me. In closing, I think we should have a forum on this subject before more year pages are added to the wiki. Doug86 19:19, May 6, 2011 (UTC)
EJA
Hey, maybe you should leave User:EJA a message about forum headers. I've already left two messages to no avail, but maybe requests from another user may get him to actually do what we are asking. --Revan\Talk 20:29, April 28, 2011 (UTC)
IMDB
I've been using wikia's for a while and have never been told not to link to IMDB.com before, why is not done on here? Geek Mythology 11:42, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
Little Girl
This page is getting alot of heat, maybe we should consider locking it for the rest of the day? Skittles supports this, what about you? --Revan\Talk 18:15, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
I just re-added it, we're like a hive mind :-) --Revan\Talk 18:18, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
Can you please unlock it, people are just putting the basics. Put a spoilers thing at the top and then let registered users edit, there is a lot of stuff related to this that keeps getting edited out by other people.Chariblock1 18:27, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
Theme
Could you please leave this background up. I have contacted wikia staff as I am experiencing issues with it and they may wish to see it in its current form. Thank you for your co-operation.----Skittles the hog--Talk 18:16, May 3, 2011 (UTC)
Policy
Hey, just checking to see wh you reverted my edit to the bolcking policy page. Shouldn't that sort of stuff be covered by the policy? --Bold Clone 18:31, May 5, 2011 (UTC)
Little Girl (The Impossible Astronaut) page
I would like to ask why do we have to put the "Little Girl's" species as near human we don't know for sure but we do know that only Time Lords can regenerate i know you are more experienced and know more than me so I respect ur decision. But why does the template page for time lords have the Little Girl on it. The mysterious 15:20, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
The Smugglers and The Curse of the Black Spot
Are you sure it's a different Captain Avery, as the writer of the episode mentions in the latest Doctor Who Magazine that it's the same one?
{{Talk Page}}
Please see my comments at forum:Tags on talk pages.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">15:53:15 Thu 12 May 2011 15:53, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
Amy Pond (Aboard the pirate ship)
My last edit on Amy pond seemed to be undone, I dont understand what's the matter but please can you tell me why, thank you. The mysterious 14:09, May 14, 2011 (UTC)
The Doctor's TARDIS tiff
You had a tiny little disagreement with an anon yesterday over how best to edit a portion of the Doctor's TARDIS. What you may not have seen is that he or she decided to vent his or her frustration in the edit summary in a way that clearly violated Tardis:No personal attacks. It was such an obvious violation of the policy that I regrettably had to block the user, if we want the policy to have any teeth. However it's a very light block (for this kind of offense) of only a week. You promised in one of your edit summaries to show him or her the difference between how he was phrasing things and how we might expect things to be worded. If you care to follow up on that, you can do so at one of the two talk pages associated with this user: 92.7.197.29 or 2.97.162.141.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">13:03:46 Sun 15 May 2011
Idris
Why is Idris protected? ---Si Iway amway Ichamousacoricothingmabobsay. http://images.wikia.com/tardis/images/e/e4/Si_HTL_Seal_Leader.PNG 16:56, May 15, 2011 (UTC)
Spoilers
Hi. I've been having an argument with CzechOut, and he mentioned your name, so I thought I would consult you and see what you think. I added some info about the cybermen in episode seven into the Background discussion in the panopticon. This was basically what I said:
[check the history page if you want to see this quote. Spoilers not allowed in the user talk: namespace.]
This is a tiny spoiler, and at the time, I was unaware of the spoiler policy in the Panopticon. Then, Czech Out left a potentionally threatening message on my talk page about the above. He said that it was a spoiler and that the Panopticon was supposed to be a spoiler-clean place, even though by know it is a well known fact that the cybermen are coming back, then he said the following:
If you put any more spoilers, even the tiniest little scrap of the narrative future, even if you believe it's common knowledge, in any thread at The Panopticon, I will personally block you for six months.
I said this was a threat, then he said I was lucky that I had not already been banned, and he had already not told another admin [i.e, you]. What do you think? (sorry, forgot to sign) User:Ghastly9090/sig 14:52, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
I saw the eye patched lady in the trailer for it
ArchiveList
I acknowledge receipt of your problem report and am investigating it. This was one of the threads I left dangling when my "break" hit, and I'm trying to remember my progress on the issue. I'll get back to you when I've got a firm answer for you.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">23:41:27 Fri 20 May 2011
- Ahhh! That's what it was! I forgot to build all the templates that are called for in the java. I'll get around to it rather sooner than later now that you've mentioned that you're actively trying to use this tool. I remeber now — I abandoned it for a bit cause I thought no one would seriously use it. But gimme a few days and I'll have it running for you.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">00:02:38 Sat 21 May 2011- You know, I'm remembering more about this now. I stopped work on it cause I thought it wasn't working at all. I've looked in Safari and Firefox, poked around with the code, and I'm still not seeing the archive button anywhere. Could you please send me a screen shot of how it looks to you? I've put in a request with the developer for additional help, but I kinda need to know what it's basically supposed to look like within our particular wiki environment.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">01:09:54 Sat 21 May 2011
- You know, I'm remembering more about this now. I stopped work on it cause I thought it wasn't working at all. I've looked in Safari and Firefox, poked around with the code, and I'm still not seeing the archive button anywhere. Could you please send me a screen shot of how it looks to you? I've put in a request with the developer for additional help, but I kinda need to know what it's basically supposed to look like within our particular wiki environment.
- Oh, and if the button is within the Edit dropdown, please take your screenshot with the edit menu in a 'down' position. Thanks.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">01:11:06 Sat 21 May 2011 - Thanks very much for the screenshot. I've been troubleshooting, so it may be that at the time you took it, I had temporarily disabled the archive line. I have another report from the developer of the tool that he was seeing it, in the Oasis/Wikia skin, in all major Windows browsers. I'm still not seeing it in my two Mac browsers, either on our site or on the developer's site, where it's obviously fully implemented.
- Ahhh! That's what it was! I forgot to build all the templates that are called for in the java. I'll get around to it rather sooner than later now that you've mentioned that you're actively trying to use this tool. I remeber now — I abandoned it for a bit cause I thought no one would seriously use it. But gimme a few days and I'll have it running for you.
- I am absolutely committed to making sure this thing works for at least for Windows users, so I'll require your help over the next few days to tell me when it's working and when it's not. I can check it myself only by first going to the Monobook skin, but it does need to be working at least for Win users in the Wikia skin to be benefit to the greatest number of users.
- I'm showing it as active in monobook as of the timestamp on this message, and I don't plan on fiddling with it for the rest of the day. Please refresh your cache and report back whether you see it again. I still have to build the templates that complement it, so you'll still get a redlinked template if you try to use it. But it'll be useful to know whether Win users are at least seeing it in the Wikia (default) skin as of my latest update to the javascript pages.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">18:25:07 Sat 21 May 2011- Nahhh, it's still not ready for prime time yet. I'll make an announcement in the forums/community message system when it's open for business. I'm still trying some things with the developer to get it showing up for Mac users in Wikia skin before I aggressively start putting it together. By this time next week — at the latest — you'll be able to fully use it, though. I'll likely be calling on you to be my "Windows eyes" for testing over the next few days. Thanks very much for bringing all this up, because honestly, I just thought it was one of those bits of code you find that didn't actually live up to its promise. But playing around with it in monobook, I can see it's really cool.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">18:42:54 Sat 21 May 2011- Just to keep you abreast of progress, working with the developer today has apparently yielded some results, and we do believe we've now found that there is a platform specific bug that may be affecting Mac but not Windows users. My discovery came too late in the day for him, so he's going to get back to me tomorrow, possibly with news of how to solve the problem. But still, this looks promising. If there's any chance of being able to formally roll out the feature on the site for both platforms working equally well, it's worth waiting just a bit longer. Still, you may notice me working on som archive related templates over the next few days while waiting n a fix to come through. If you would, don't get too excited about that just yet. Again, thanks for reminding me about this feature. If this does result in a Mac fix, you'll have helped not just this wiki but the several large wikis that have this feature installed. Even if we can't find a fix, just helping to identify a confirmed platform-specific bug is a big deal with a somewhat popular bit of code like this.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">02:08:19 Sun 22 May 2011
- Just to keep you abreast of progress, working with the developer today has apparently yielded some results, and we do believe we've now found that there is a platform specific bug that may be affecting Mac but not Windows users. My discovery came too late in the day for him, so he's going to get back to me tomorrow, possibly with news of how to solve the problem. But still, this looks promising. If there's any chance of being able to formally roll out the feature on the site for both platforms working equally well, it's worth waiting just a bit longer. Still, you may notice me working on som archive related templates over the next few days while waiting n a fix to come through. If you would, don't get too excited about that just yet. Again, thanks for reminding me about this feature. If this does result in a Mac fix, you'll have helped not just this wiki but the several large wikis that have this feature installed. Even if we can't find a fix, just helping to identify a confirmed platform-specific bug is a big deal with a somewhat popular bit of code like this.
- Nahhh, it's still not ready for prime time yet. I'll make an announcement in the forums/community message system when it's open for business. I'm still trying some things with the developer to get it showing up for Mac users in Wikia skin before I aggressively start putting it together. By this time next week — at the latest — you'll be able to fully use it, though. I'll likely be calling on you to be my "Windows eyes" for testing over the next few days. Thanks very much for bringing all this up, because honestly, I just thought it was one of those bits of code you find that didn't actually live up to its promise. But playing around with it in monobook, I can see it's really cool.
- The problem has now been isolated to an error within the javascript of the wikia skin itself. A problem report has been submitted to wikia support. This means we're on the final phase of this thing. Now that the ball is firmly in wikia's court, they'll either fix it or they won't. I should know in a few days how to roll out this feature. Thanks for your continued patience, because I know you really wanna just start using it.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">16:48:17 Tue 24 May 2011- Hey, can you do me a favor? You know how you gave me that screenshot a few days back? I need another one, for the ArchiveTool tutorial, which actually shows the "Archive" in the Edit drop down. It'll help a lot in putting together the tutorial. Thanks.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ <span style="">23:16:12 Tue 24 May 2011
- Hey, can you do me a favor? You know how you gave me that screenshot a few days back? I need another one, for the ArchiveTool tutorial, which actually shows the "Archive" in the Edit drop down. It'll help a lot in putting together the tutorial. Thanks.
- I'm showing it as active in monobook as of the timestamp on this message, and I don't plan on fiddling with it for the rest of the day. Please refresh your cache and report back whether you see it again. I still have to build the templates that complement it, so you'll still get a redlinked template if you try to use it. But it'll be useful to know whether Win users are at least seeing it in the Wikia (default) skin as of my latest update to the javascript pages.
Cybus logo
I noticed your removal of File:Cybus-logo.gif from Cybus Industries. The image is from the BBC's tie-in website and probably as clear a version of the plain logo as we'll ever get without remaking it from scratch, is there a reason it shouldn't be used there? Rob T Firefly 19:05, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
- Why must an image be a screenshot to be used in an infobox? Rob T Firefly 19:16, May 25, 2011 (UTC)
Sources
I was meant to remove the links, for The Rebel Flesh and The Almost People sorry for the inconvenience. The mysterious 12:56, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
ho
EXCUSE ME BUT IF YOU WATCHED DOCTOR WHO CONFIDETIAL LAST NIGHT THEY SAID SHE WAS TAKEN BEFORE THE IMPOSSIBLE ASTRONAUT
yh well look on the impossible astronaut's page. it quite clearly says this also marks the apperance of amy ponds gangerRolotwist 18:08, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
Why should i because amy ponds ganger has been there since before the impossible astronaut its props cos u wanna make the editRolotwist 18:21, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
Amy's baby
In z summary of a good man goes to war from the sunday timese implies that amy's baby will be names melody. Thus supposrting the theory that amy's baby is river song (Melody=song. Pond=river. Its not a far reach). The episode is protected from edits, but i think this at lst belongs in the myth section or something. I got the quote from the sunday times from this post-> http://doctorwhospoilers.com/2011/spoilers/4377 taszzz 18:17, May 30, 2011 (UTC)time:and:space
Blightsoot
I'm sure at this point you're starting to see the problem, but I'm having some issues in talking to Blightsoot, I was wondering if you could help sort of defuse the situation? Thanks! Witoki 23:13, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
Episode titles
Hello, while recently looking at the episode list on Series_6_(Doctor_Who)#Autumn I saw that no one had added the episode names for the autum season found here. Seeing you were the last to edit the page I though I would send you a message and see if you could update the names. Secretcode6 02:33, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
Alright, I wasn't aware thank you!
Secretcode6 22:42, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
New 'Hello' image
I was wondering, as because David Tennant is no longer the Doctor, perhaps we could try this new 'Hello' picture, with Matt Smith. It's from The Doctor's Wife. Tell me what you think. Cortion 10:50, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
Ganger Pond
Hope you don't mind, but I'm still wondering why my changes to Amy Pond (Ganger) were undone. Seems to me there should be some mention of the tardis scans and pregnancy in there somewhere. Geek Mythology 11:14, May 31, 2011 (UTC)
Untitled message 1
Fist of all the Torchwood Page has previous Cast memeber as there Main Cast and so I did the same for SJA Cast but no your like a control freak. If your!!!!!!!!! not happy with it you change it Let other loyal fans have a chance to Edit as they have the same rights to edit as much you do.
I'm not happy with you always do this One time I spent the whole day doing Maria Jackson's Page and you deleted it and I was very angry because I spent all day doing it and you just change it. So let me edit I tries to reason with sometimes but just change it the way you want and it annoys me. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dpkon12 (talk • contribs) .
- Hey, he's not a control freak! You've been warned before about inappropriate editing anyway. I'm surprised you're not banned. Digifiend 16:52, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
Main page slider
I was wondering if theis wiki could have a main page slider, as many wikis do now. Tell me if you think this is a good or bad idea. Cortion 17:20, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
Pixar Wiki has one at the top of their main page. Cortion 17:29, June 2, 2011 (UTC)
Here's an example of what I think the Main Page Slider on this wiki should look like (Main Page Sliders mostly contain promotional pictures). Tell me if it should be featured on the front page on my talk page: Cortion 08:57, June 3, 2011 (UTC)
Episode 7
Eye Patch Lady
River Song
Series 6
River Song
I'm going to leave the River page locked for at least a day, it's been getting lots of attention and has been moved to Melody Pond twice. Is this ok with you? --Revan\Talk 19:37, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
Cyber-Lord
I understand why you reverted my edit, but now there is no Cyber-Lord page for the rank or a Cyber-Lord (A Good Man Goes To War) for another individual one. Should I move my edit onto one of these pages? Thanks--{{SUBST:User:Kingofall42/SigReal|{{SUBST:{Predated }}}}. 12:06, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
Series 7
Can this page be created now? Users have been talking about it on the talk page because bits of information has been confirmed! -- Michael Downey 20:05, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
This is still a wiki based on facts so I don't see the problem in making it (once it's officially confirmed) and locking it so users don't spam it with rumours etc. p.s sorry about lots of messages my internet crashed lol -- Michael Downey 20:15, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
Series 7
Can this page be created now? Users have been talking about it on the talk page because bits of information has been confirmed! -- Michael Downey 20:07, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
Series 7
Can this page be created now? Users have been talking about it on the talk page because bits of information has been confirmed! -- Michael Downey 20:12, June 7, 2011 (UTC)
BBC confirmation
BBC1 Head of Communications, Sam Hodges: