Talk:Ian Chesterton

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Still writing this up, I've run out of time today! It's slightly altered from the original layout, but what does everyone think? Kazzab72 12:25, 13 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Looks great so far. --Freethinker1of1 22:59, 13 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Content for the page is finished, unless anyone wants to add anything. Added a photo, but I'm having problems getting Wiki markup for the table working properly (it's in HTML at the moment). Not too sure about placement of the photo.--Kazzab72 09:09, 14 Apr 2005 (EDT)

What is the 'Humanian' era? Is this a real term? What is it's origin? --Mantrid 03:25, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

as I said on the comments for the First Doctor entry, it comes from the TVM. dorky-sounding phrase, but nevertheless canonical. --*Stardizzy* 04:16, 14 Jul 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. You're absolutely right, of course. You can tell I haven't watched the TVM that often can't you. (In fact I've only watched it once on its original transmission!). --Mantrid 17:08, 16 Jul 2005 (UTC)

"An Adventure in Space and Time"

What's wrong with adding the actor from the docudrama? He obviously acted as "Ian Chesterton" in the scenes where they recreated scenes from the original episodes. -- 70.24.244.51^{talk to me} 06:43, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

There is a difference, though it can be hard to see. The docudrama actor never acted as Ian, he only acted as William Russell. While in character as William Russell, he acted as Ian, but he never acted as Ian in any DW story. Shambala108 ☎ 15:18, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

2.2 Updated with new information

The sign in front of Coal Hill at the beginning of Day of the Doctor lists I. Chesterton as Chairman of the Governors.

Francis

Does the "Francis" middle name come from either version of The Crusade, or is that citation in the lead mentioning where he was knighted? -- Tybort (talk page) 21:57, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

I've removed it. In The Crusade, he is knighted as Sir Ian of Jaffa — no mention of Francis. If it can be found in a source, it can be re-added. Shambala108 ☎ 01:26, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

I've checked The Crusades and An Introduction and, unless I've missed something, Ian's middle name isn't mentioned in either. Is it from Hunters of the Burning Stone? Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 18:07, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

According to this blog, Hunters is the story to provide "Francis" as Ian's middle name.

Epsilon📯 📂

18:33, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm not seeing where on the page it says that it comes from Hunters... The comic story's mentioned, sure, but "Francis" seems to be mentioned whilst talking about a story from a charity anthology, which we don't deem a valid source. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 18:54, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

I can confirm that Ian's middle name is given as "Francis" at his wedding on the last page of Hunters of the Burning Stone. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 13:42, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Infobox image

I'd like to suggest this image for Ian's infobox image. -- Saxon (✉️) 15:59, October 10, 2019 (UTC)

Or basically anything but the current one. -- Saxon (✉️) 15:58, November 14, 2019 (UTC)

Considering that it has been two years and nobody has objected, the image being more compliant with T:GTI, as well as this being a less trafficked page, I've went ahead and changed the infobox from File:IanHaggardAUC.jpg to the image you proposed.

Epsilon📯 📂

18:15, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

And I've gone ahead and changed it back. This discussion is not closed, and only admins can close such discussions. If you want to get something moving, ask an admin to check into it. There are a lot of such discussion open, and we can't follow them all. Shambala108 ☎ 21:02, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

With all due respect Shambala, nowhere is it stated that admins are required to be the ones to close discussions. Typically, they are the ones that do, due to their bias-free role, especially in larger discussions; but this wasn't even a discussion, it was a suggestion, a suggestion that went unopposed for two years. And it is a suggestion for an image that more closely follows T:GTI, a policy which you have proven that you care for. What is the issue here?

Epsilon📯 📂

21:59, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

It does seem a bit strange that a vote is required to replace an image which was never voted on. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 22:45, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Tardis:Don't let a pretty face ignite a war, specifically at the end, addresses the fact that popular pages need community consensus before being changed. This is partly to keep someone new from changing an image that the community already changed. Popular pages include, but may not be limited to, the Doctor, the Master, any companions, and television episodes. The wording on the policy page may not be all that clear; if you like I can amend it to be more clear.

And it's not so strange that the original image was never voted on; it was either placed before the rule was codified, or it got in under the radar. These things happen on a large wiki. Shambala108 ☎ 03:21, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

In order to get the ball rolling on the community discussion, I would like to voice my support for the proposed replacement image. I don't have a problem with the current one, but I must admit that the replacement is probably more suitable. LauraBatham ☎ 04:03, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

I would also like to show me sorry for this replacement image. Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500) ☎ 06:44, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

I obviously also support the proposed image.

To counter your point, Shambala, one of the reasons I went ahead and changed the image on this page is because I believe that this page isn't one of the more popular ones. You rarely see it in the trending pages section in categories or anything of the sort.

Epsilon📯 📂

07:25, 24 November 2021 (UTC)

"I believe" is not usually acceptable for wiki policy. We don't let individual users (admin or otherwise) decide which pages are the popular ones. The general consensus has been Doctor/companion/Master/TV story pages are generally more popular. It's too much work to decide which individuals are more popular than others. This blanket rule is easier to explain and enforce. If it would be easier to understand, I can add it to the Tardis:Don't let a pretty face ignite a war page. Shambala108 ☎ 01:05, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Ian Chesterton, as a companion, and as one of our most linked-to pages, does require discussion under T:IBOX WARS. That said, we seem to have a pretty clear consensus already. This discussion's been open for over two years now, as user:Epsilon the Eternal has pointed out. I'll leave this open for three days, in case any other users have alternate suggestions.

In the new year, Ian Chesterton's infobox image will be changed.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 23:36, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

I do not have any new suggestions, however I also want to voice my support for this change, I think the proposed image is more fitting than the current one. Liria10 ☎ 00:00, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

I actually prefer the current image, though I have a new image to suggest that I think is better than both of them. How do people feel about this one? Chubby Potato ☎ 02:26, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Not a bad option, but I still prefer the first proposal. It's lighter and Ian's face isn't quite so stern looking. Plus you can see more of his hair and signature suit attire. LauraBatham ☎ 02:58, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

May as well start a gallery for our options. (If this does turn into a longer discussion, I can always extend the deadline.)

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  1. 1 (current)
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  1. 2
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  1. 3
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  1. 4

I'm not gonna lie, looking at our options so far, #1 (the current image) still seems like the best option. But I understand the objections. I'll keep looking, personally.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 04:17, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Out of those options, I think 4 is the best. 2 would be my second pick. Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500) ☎ 16:47, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

4 is not sufficiently cropped. Either 2 or 3 will do, though 1 isn't really that bad. And for anyone new to the wiki, please see our guidelines at Tardis:Guide to images for what we want in an infobox image. Shambala108 ☎ 17:03, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

I quite like #3 and #4. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 13:42, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

After comparing the four, I still prefer #2, though I feel like #3 would make for a good infobox image as well Liria10 ☎ 14:33, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Coming in very late here but I agree the infobox image should be changed. It's not a very flattering image, ad arguably not great at representing the character. Of the proposals just above, I think #2 or #4 work best. Fractal Doctor ☎ 20:23, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

I'm definitely a fan of number 3. WaltK ☎ 21:52, 8 February 2023 (UTC)

New policy, further discussion

In light of new image policy and guidelines, we are now able to choose a photo where Ian isn't facing/looking left, if this is the best case scenario. We also don't have to adhere to outdated cropping guidelines. I hope we can find a much more flattering and suitable image to represent him now. Fractal Doctor ☎ 12:47, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

I certainly hope so. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 12:48, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

Any movement on this? The current photo is so unflattering to William Russell. There are better suggestions posted above. — Fractal Doctor @ 22:12, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Suggestion #2 is very much the best, I think, though if others are suggested that might change. Aquanafrahudy 📢 07:28, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree that #2 looks the best, although I would prefer for the top of Ian's head to be included. Bongo50 ☎ 08:13, 28 August 2023 (UTC)