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| [[User:Allonsy potter|Allonsy potter]] [[User talk:Allonsy potter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:46, March 4, 2016 (UTC)
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| == Unregistered user(s) vandalism ==
| | Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Star_Beast_(TV_story)?diff=3662903&oldid=3662898 here], where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, [[User:Epsilon the Eternal]] still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, [[Rose Noble]], had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns. |
| Hi. Is there anything that can be done about (an) unregistered user(s) who I believe is just going out of their way to delete information they don't like from specific pages? I brought this up to another mod last month, but for whatever reasons never heard back and the problem has only persisted.
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| For several days in January unregistered user, 68.111.182.93, began coming onto the wiki to vandalize the spouse section of the Twelfth Doctor page by changing River to Clara and after a week of this got banned. Two days later another unregistered user, 108.171.131.189, popped up and began deleting River's name and/or the spouse section in the infobox. A couple other IPs that are only one digit off at the end also keep coming around in early February to trade off changing the Twelfth Doctor page to do the same thing: 108.171.131.187, 108.171.131.186, and 108.171.131.188. As of late February, similar antics began on the River Song page where unregistered user 69.174.87.76 is turning "The Doctor" into "11th Doctor" in the spouse section and erasing the species2 section even though it's valid per information in AGMGTW. At the same time, the same IP is once again erasing River's name on Twelve's page and an IP that only differs at the last three digits, 69.174.87.164, changed details and added an incorrect section heading on the Twelfth Doctor page to give the River/Twelve relationship a less intimate spin. | | I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Fifteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3660630 treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Theory:Timeline_-_Fourteenth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3659912 reverted edits based on actions not yet taken], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3659364 put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves], [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656646 indulge in rude wording] [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Destination:_Skaro_(TV_story)?diff=prev&oldid=3656310 on multiple occasions] ([https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Solitract?diff=prev&oldid=3641225 even using the name of the Lord in vain]), and engaged in unneeded hostilities [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Fourteenth_Doctor on talk pages]. |
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| Given the timing and the strikingly similar behavior, I can't help but suspect that this is the work of a single person flying under the radar with different IPs that aren't actually that different when you look at the chunks of time they're active. Is there anything that can be done about this? Or at the very least, can the Twelfth Doctor and River Song pages be changed to only be editable by registered users? [[User:Mewiet|Mewiet]] [[User talk:Mewiet|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:15, March 4, 2016 (UTC)
| | I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters. |
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| So we '''don't''' want infoboxes on as many pages as possible? [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">The Champion of Time</span>]] [[User Talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="color:red">'''TALK'''</span>]] 11:40, March 5, 2016 (UTC)
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| Hey, just wanted to know why you deleted the part in [[1964 (releases)]] that informed about [[Dr Who and the Daleks sweet cigarettes]]? [[User:HighlandFling|HighlandFling]] [[User talk:HighlandFling|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:38, March 14, 2016 (UTC)HighlandFling
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| ==Hey there== | | Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at [[Beep the Meep]]. Wondering if you could help resolve it. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC) |
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| I sent you an email on Thursday - did you happen to receive it? [[User:Ducksoup|Ducksoup]] [[User talk:Ducksoup|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:45, March 28, 2016 (UTC)
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| :Then you should check your spam! If it didn't land in spam, let me know. [[User:Ducksoup|Ducksoup]] [[User talk:Ducksoup|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:19, March 29, 2016 (UTC)
| | I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples. |
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| Hello, I'm a new user and added a photo to the Marcus Gilbert page but you deleted it as under the wrong licence. As I went through the list and the User licence seemed to be the one that fitted the image, can you tell me where I went wrong please? I find the whole licence issue very confusing and would appreciate your guidance as to which licence I should have used or if I cannot add a photo at all. I have consent to use the photo. Many thanks, [[User:MGFansite|MGFansite]] [[User talk:MGFansite|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:50, March 29, 2016 (UTC)
| | I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past. |
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| about [[Invasion of the Dinosaurs (TV story)]] - Shouldn't Sarah's reference to the song "A Nightingale Sang In Berkeley Square be mentioned as a music reference? [[User:Scout Finch|Scout Finch]] [[User talk:Scout Finch|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:49, March 31, 2016 (UTC)
| | I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless. |
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| | I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious. |
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| Why did you delete my contributions? [[User:RoseTenthFan|RoseTenthFan]] [[User talk:RoseTenthFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:13, April 16, 2016 (UTC)
| | I think all users can have their issues, and while Epsilon has had a few citations against them in the past, there have been extraneous circumstances around those in some regards. |
| :I saw articles already in these categories, but now they are all in :Category:Males and :Category:Females because humans do not eem to have a special status in DWU. [[User:RoseTenthFan|RoseTenthFan]] [[User talk:RoseTenthFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:26, April 20, 2016 (UTC)
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| == Deleting Template:The Doctor ==
| | We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC) |
| I don't get it, what is it in [[Thread:193167]] that explains why the template should be deleted? The comments made by SOTO were directed towards creating an infobox, not a navbox. And not only did SOTO have no problem with the navbox, I also asked P&P if there were any problems with it, and again was not told that it was an issue. Even you had a chance to stop me when you closed the thread. Please explain exactly why this should be deleted. [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">The Champion of Time</span>]] [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span> ]] 04:37, April 24, 2016 (UTC)
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| :Its been a few days, and you don't seem to have read the message. Are you not following your own talk page? I don't mean to be rude, but you've most definitely been online. Anyways, I've realized that the error may have been on my part. Are all navboxes going to be deleted to make things easier for people using the app?
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| :If not, then what makes ''[[Template:The Doctor]]'' different from other navboxes? [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">The Champion of Time</span>]] [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span> ]] 21:38, April 27, 2016 (UTC)
| | Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| :::Sorry, I made a dreadful mistake by writing the first message in the heat of the moment, and that has only made this situation much tenser than it needs to be. If you would kindly look through the eyes of a fairly new editor, I'm sure a conclusion can reached.
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| :::First off, before this conversation all my previous one-on-one discussions had been rather quick (although I realize as I type this that that was probably because they were with non-admin). It was due to this (and your empty ''pages this user is following'' box) that I wrote the second message. These previous conversations led me to assume that no response to "Are there any problems?" meant that there weren't any problems (although to be fair to the weasly me of 11 days ago, I never said they approved of it).
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| ::::Anyways, to sum the confirmation thing up: Because I was unsure of creating my first template: I asked 2 admin if it was alright and did not recieve a response from either, I took this as an apathetic "we don't see any immediate problems" and created the template.
| | Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh? |
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| :::So, I'm sure you'll agree that I was in the wrong there, but I do not see how I am in the wrong in the whole deletion thing. SOTO's technical problems with my original propositions were that:
| | [[User:Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba|Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba]] [[User talk:Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC) |
| #It contained far too much to sit atop a page
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| #Per [[Tardis:Point of view]], there shouldn't be sections labelled ''past, present and future''
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| :::The current template is not an infobox so 1, 3 & 4 do not apply, and the section divisions of ''past, present and future'' have been removed. The reason I left you a message was because you put the deletion marker on the template. I feel that this explains my point of view, so if you're willing to share yours (or agree with me) than leave a message. Don't worry, I'll be patient this time! [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">The Champion of Time</span>]] [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span> ]] 04:20, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
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| == Clockworks == | | == Merry Christmas And Happy New Year == |
| "Clockwork" isn't an accurate term. "Clockworks" isn't a plural. The individual term is always "member of the Clockworks" or very occasionally "Clockworker."[[User:Fwhiffahder|Fwhiffahder]] [[User talk:Fwhiffahder|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:35, April 26, 2016 (UTC)
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| == Wrong thing for right reasons ==
| | Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
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| It was a unique situation, which is not likely to repeat: after having been informed about the policy, I do not violate it other than in this case. The reason I could not put a "Speedy rename" tag is because the placement of "puppet" is not governed by the policies, cf. the hot discussions about [[Zygon Osgood]] vs. [[Osgood (Zygon)]]. In this case, however, the placement was clear to keep all puppets' names uniform within the story. The "Rename" tag I put on [[Elisabeth of Bavaria]] hung there for close to 6 months I think. I even tried bringing the topic on Panopticon, but this is too uninteresting for most people (note that the Panopticon discussion is not applicable to this page). So, finishing the overhaul of ''[[The Silver Turk (audio story)|The Silver Turk]]'' and having a clearly stated reason for a move, I chose to move this page, which was originally created by me with a wrong name and which no one else worked on (save for adding a hidden category once).
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| I moved it because doing the same without violating the "non-move" policy by creating a new page and moving all the links to it would have been worse (would not have copied the history). While performing the move, I was mindful of the potential problems pointed out in the thread you mentioned: I checked that no links point to the old page using [[Special:Whatlinkshere]] and I left a redirect, as per an earlier statement by an admin that it should be kept in this case. However, were it necessary to remove the redirect after the move, I would have done it manually, which is possible even for non-admins.
| | Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have [[Help:CheckUser|CheckUser]] access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion! |
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| What I, however, regret doing is moving the content (including the talk page) of [[Elisabeth of Bavaria]] page to [[Sisi]] manually and manually pointing the redirect in the reverse direction. This was also necessary as "of Bavaria" is never mentioned in DWU. I did it in the way that does not violate the "non-move" policy, but too late have I realised that the history of changes will not be copied this way. For this I apologise. As I said, sometimes, violating a policy is better than not violating it.
| | Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Happy holidays.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 18:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| Bottomline: I'm not gonna run amok and start moving pages left, right and centre. I do care about the integrity of this Wiki. But sometimes one must do what he must to get things done. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:19, April 27, 2016 (UTC)
| | : I just wanted to mention that [[User:Spongebob456]] is probably the easiest Fandom staff member to contact for things like this as he's our wiki rep. He's who I've gone to for a few similar requests in the past (which I've done through his Discord but you could probably do through his talk page). [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC) |
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| : Thank you for pointing out another problem with non-admin page moves. I understand and will never do it again under any circumstances. Also thank you for making sure my opinion is heard on J&L&S. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:19, May 5, 2016 (UTC) | | :: And that's exactly who I went to, in fact! But no problem at all. |
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| | :: Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers{{User:SOTO/sig}} 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC) |
| Apologies, but the category I am restoring was a new categories I had forgotten to create, so I will be adding it back and creating it. [[User:RogerAckroydLives|RogerAckroydLives]] [[User talk:RogerAckroydLives|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:22, May 4, 2016 (UTC)
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| Hello. Can you please tell me why you keep undoing my edits? Clara's page needs to be cleaned up. Everytime I try to start, it's undone by you.
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| | What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
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| Could you protect my talk page again, this time for six months please? The vandal from Wikipedia is back. Thanks much. :) ----[[User:Ebyabe|<span style="color:purple">'''Ebyabe'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Ebyabe|<span style="color:green"><small>'''(talk)'''</small></span>]] 22:30, May 9, 2016 (UTC)
| | == Trying to locate a missing thread == |
| | Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section: |
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| == My idea for Kamelion ==
| | ''As detailed at [[Thread:264489]], character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.'' |
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| I'm just wondering how come you took out what I said on Kamelion's page. | | Per some users (anonymous editors) removing it from the page, I began to do some digging as to the thread itself, in preparation for setting myself on the task of shortening down the Doctor articles myself in time, having already began work doing so with the CS links per my conversation with [[User:Scrooge MacDuck]]. In doing so, I discovered you are the one who added said template onto the Doctor articles back in 2020 (see the following link as an example: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Twelfth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3015495 ) |
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| [[User:Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba|Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba]] [[User talk:Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:16, May 14, 2016 (UTC)
| | Therefore, are you able to provide me information as to the thread itself or link me to the archive where it is stored? I don't want to trouble myself shortening all the articles if this thread has been superceded or reverted, hence does not actually have to be acted upon now. In which case, I could take to removing the templates from the Doctor's articles instead. |
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| == Cologne vs. cologne == | | Looking forward to your reply. [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| As I promised, I'm not doing moves myself anymore. And even though what I'm planning to do is not a move, it is equivalent to one. So I'm still asking permission because I promised.
| | :On this subject Shambala, it ''does'' still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in [[Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0]], as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at [[User:SOTO/Forum Archive]]. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| There is currently a redirect [[Cologne]] -> [[Perfume]]. It is used exactly once, on page [[Charlotte Cobb]], where the phrase "perfume and cologne" has two different links to the same page. In other words, the only use of this redirect is a case of [[T:OVER-WIKIFY|over-wikification]].
| | Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits. |
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| | From what [[User:Bongolium500]] sent me, it appears there's still the intention for the articles to be trimmed down as the template requests, it just seems no one - or very few editors - are actually bothering to do it, hence the templates remaining after 3 and a bit years of its request being placed. Same could be said for the CS link conversion since a mix of editors still use variants of the old format. If the task to do it is still needed though, and hence isn't going to be a waste of my time, I can begin implementing the change. |
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| | Thank you once more for responding to me message! [[User:Snivystorm|<font face="Georgia"><font color="#1E90FF">''Snivy''</font></font>]]<font face="Arial"><font color="dodgerblue"> </font> [[User talk:Snivystorm|<small style="border-style: initial; border-color: initial; "><font face="Cambria"><font color="Grey">✦ ''The coolest Pokemon ever'' ✦</font></font></small>]]</font> 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC) |
| # kill the redirect, removing the single link to [[Cologne]]-perfume and
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| As I said, since the page for the city does not exist, this cannot be done as a move. But I strongly believe it needs to be done. I would appreciate a green light from you on this in advance of making the changes. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:10, May 14, 2016 (UTC)
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| : Additionally, I think it would make sense to put the "you may" template on the city page towards [[Perfume]]. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:06, May 15, 2016 (UTC)
| | I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. [[User:Sum41Champ]] |
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| :: Thanks. And you are right. The dab turns out normally to be "(city)". The comma dab is used almost exclusively for adding states to US cities, which is only appropriate. The exception seems to be [[Memphis, Egypt]], but I can see why it cannot be disambiguated by "(city)". [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:17, June 3, 2016 (UTC) | | == Re: Edits == |
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| | Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. [[User:BlueSupergiant|BlueSupergiant]] [[User talk:BlueSupergiant|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC) |
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| Hey. If you want to take a dab page off [[Special:Lonelypages]], just add it to [[Tardis:Links to disambiguating pages]]. {{User:PicassoAndPringles/sig}} 01:24, May 16, 2016 (UTC)
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| Sorry about that. It's an unfortunate combination of old habits dying hard, me forgetting that detail, or me just assuming that the reasoning is plain for all to see.[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:51, May 24, 2016 (UTC)
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| I just discovered your message about Infobox User on my page. My apologies for not seeing it sooner.
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| [[User:Mister Fifty|Mister Fifty]] [[User talk:Mister Fifty|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:27, June 1, 2016 (UTC)
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| The history of England is not really on [[England]]. I resisted posting about it on the talk page because realistically I cannot start this project time-wise and because I may be wrong about the purpose of history sections on country pages.
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| Now that I looked at the page of [[Germany]], I am persuaded that the history should be there for England too. It's useful for dating purposes and as a quick reference guide for things that are already confirmed in DWU. It need not be just a list of dates (which is easiest to compile from year and century pages). It could also be a description of the big events in history of the country as opposed to individuals living in it (Great Fire, Great Plague, The War of Roses, the Civil War, etc.; changes in the ruling structure like the Protectorate, big invasions like the Norman one, etc., etc.).
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| As I said, though I would probably enjoy doing this a lot and learn a lot about English history, I do not have time for it.
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| So why am I bothering you? Because I am an information junkie. By no means do I dispute your removal of the bullet list from the [[17th century]]. However, this list contained a lot of information, much of which IMHO should rightfully be in the "History" section of [[England]]. I would hate to see this information lost. I may be wrong about its purpose. But it is information, and it can be used for something good.
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| Thus, my request. Could you please archive this and similar bullet-point lists somewhere when they are deleted? This would help prevent the loss of all this information, which I'm sure was painstakingly compiled by multiple editors? Thank you for your time. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:08, June 3, 2016 (UTC)
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| : Thanks a lot. It really helps to have this info handy [[Talk:17th century|where it's allowed]]. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:59, June 4, 2016 (UTC)
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| == Time placement revisited response ==
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| Before I get down to business, I'd like to voice my displeasure at you reading what was meant to be a message for [[User:RogerAckroydLives]] only. He and I have had a turbulence past, and I was updating him as a show of friendship, as the Sixth Doctor page is a possible favorite page for him to edit. I'd understand if you were just checking to ensure it was not a hostile message, and, if that is the case, I apologies in advance if I am making a mountain out of a molehill.
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| Now, down to business. I never meant to offend anyone with my "project" (for lack of a better term), nor do I intend for it to be viewed as official, as I'm all for other people contributing any new information that I was unable to find, like with [[User:TheChampionOfTime]] and the ''[[Cambridge Previsited]]'' having the companions off-stage.
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| As for why I like to find the chronological adventures of the Doctors, aside from enjoyment of deciphering the facts, is due to my Asperger's syndrome (don't worry, I'm not using it as an excuse like those internet trolls (oh, how I hate those guys)). I just feel compelled for things to have order. Besides, aren't all the entries based on speculation, at least in part. I was only trying to find some facts to back up some of the entries, and using the timeline theory forums was an easy way to leave those facts for others to find.
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| Also, I did check out those timeline talks you left me, and I don't think I'm actually doing anything wrong. I left the facts I found from various sources under the placements to show what logical order they could take and I acknowledged that some accounts contradicted others. I also made sure that all the facts didn't come from a single individual, as I used a variety of sources and picked the facts that the majority backed up. Also, I have to ask, I noticed that the only contribution you made to those talks was in the defence of a timeline page; what made you change your mind? [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:38, June 3, 2016 (UTC)
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| First and foremost, I'd like to explain that there was no ulterior motive behind me contacting TheChampionOfTime. You see, I suffer from anxiety, and when you contacted me about the my activities, I got all stressed out and began having panic attacks about potentially being blocked (not helped by the bad luck streak that seems to follow me in June). As such, I reached out to fellow user to ask if they thought I was doing anything wrong only because it was affecting my health, and went to C.O.T. because they had helped me out in the past with the First Doctor's timeline. That's why I contacted them; not to worm my way around Wiki Politics, but because I was feeling worried and needed to voice my troubles to someone who would understand.
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| Believe it not note, I agree with you on how speculative it can be to place stories in a complete timeline, and how that can lead to edit wars and more users throwing their true potential for the wiki away because they think (as an example) that ''Hunters of the Burning Skull'' is before ''The Bells of St. John'' or set after ''The Name of the Doctor''. That was one of my motivations to look into these Timeline forums and to see if, by researching every resource available to me, I could find a way to cease all edit wars on the subject by placing all the facts I found into one place. Heck, you could say this all stated when I accidently found a flaw in the [[Eighth Doctor]]'s timeline that lead to [[Thread:168455]].
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| In conclusion, I meant no harm by seeking support from TheChampionOfTime, and I don't want to cause any fuss about edit wars. But, surly you and I can agree that, as pretty much all entries into the Doctor's biography are at least partially speculative, having some facts to back up some of the entries, even something as minor as clothing, would degrease their speculative value and make it harder for people to argue with one another.
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| Also, something that has peaked my curiosity; I've done this with five Doctors so far (six if you include the [[War Doctor]]), why all this debating now?
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| Yours without malice,
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| [[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:26, June 9, 2016 (UTC) | |
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| == Mitzi Wittenmeier (puppet) ==
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| Hi, I'm really uncomfortable calling [[Mitzi Wittenmeier (puppet)]] "Mitzi Wittenmeier" in the infobox title. Shouldn't that be reserved only for [[Mitzi Wittenmeier]]? I mean, "Osgood" is not the infobox title of [[Zygon Osgood]], nor "Queen Elizabeth I" of [[Zygon Queen Elizabeth I]], nor "Doctor" of [[Robot Doctor]]. On the other hand, "Martha Jones" is the infobox title of [[Martha Jones (clone)]]. Hmmm... Is there a written policy on this? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:57, June 4, 2016 (UTC)
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| : Maybe I found the thread you mentioned. Is it [[Thread:137098|this one]]? There [[User:CzechOut|CzechOut]] does say: "Dab terms should never be in an infobox..." I wonder though if this means that the "name" field should always be formed by just dropping the dab term, whichever it is. Because I had the same feeling that leaving the dab term in parenthesis in this field is just plain ugly. CzechOut says it regarding a dab term that is a story name. Again, I agree 100%. My reasoning was: let's try to find a name that the characters could use based on what we know. If we do not know the name of the planet, calling it "Planet" is reasonable for us and for them. Same for [[Cologne (city)]]: it is quite natural to call it "Cologne" for us and for them. But I had this feeling that [[Mary Shelley]] would not knowingly call Mitzi's puppet "Mitzi". Not wanting to keep the dab term, I, thus, converted [[Mitzi Wittenmeier (puppet)]] into "Puppet Mitzi Wittemeier". Perhaps, the characters would use "Puppet of Mitzi Wittenmeier" but I hope you get the point. I'm just explaining my original reasoning. Now, I have some thoughts about it. But, perhaps, the wisest course of actions is to ask CzechOut for the scope of his remark. He stated it for a particular case, so it might well be that he had a more elaborate theory in mind. I would be interested in learning that theory. Could you ask him/her? Or should I? And if it is decided to keep it puppetless, I will have to make changes to several similar pages I've created.
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| : PS. Could this be the origin of the [[Zygon "person"]] page names? If I thought that putting (Zygon) as a dab term would result in the infobox name being just "person", then using Zygon as a prefix seems like a preventive measure. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:20, June 4, 2016 (UTC)
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| :: I'm always for adding rules to policies for everyone to see. And if you're sure, I am taking your word for it. I would have preferred to add a link to this rule to explain the change. But I can also refer to you if questioned. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:45, June 4, 2016 (UTC)
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| ==Page Move==
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| Ah, okay, sorry, didn't know that. I just thought it was a minor page and so it wouldn't matter. I did attempt to raise the matter on the page's talk page but when I tried to click on the link I just got a string of symbols. Is it okay for the page to remain there or do I need to make my case? [[User:Skteosk|Skteosk]] [[User talk:Skteosk|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:32, June 4, 2016 (UTC)
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| :Oh, I see you've just moved it back. I should probably read it again but the thread you directed me to seemed to, rather schizophrenically, state that it was okay to move a page if it has less than 10 links to it, so long as you add that template first. So...do I do that? [[User:Skteosk|Skteosk]] [[User talk:Skteosk|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:37, June 4, 2016 (UTC)
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| ::Okay, I'll do that then.[[User:Skteosk|Skteosk]] [[User talk:Skteosk|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:11, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
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| == Short apology ==
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| I was wrong regarding the number of Miltons and Purcells present in Wikipedia. I only checked the "(disambiguation)" page, but there is also "(surname)" page. For Milton, it's not too bad: there are only two in the 17th century, and both are Johns, plus one is way more famous. There are six Purcells from the 17th century, however, and three of them could potentially be meant. Thus, I am hesitant to make a determination myself. I put all the information on the [[Talk:Purcell (17th century)|talk page]]. Let the rename be suggested by those bolder than me. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:45, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
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| ~ ~ ~ ~SAINT1 Why did you delete the Word lord and CORDIS revisions?
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| I downloaded the audio story The Word Lord and listened to it, and I made notes about the Word Lords and the CORDIS, and I added it to the pages. I may have even added a few logical assumptions. If that is the reason YOU went to all the trouble to delete those same revisions to two pages that were lacking in information, then you should have deleted those sections, not the parts of the CORDIS's chameleon meme. That was accurate.
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| == Blocking or at least protecting ==
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| We have an unregistered user that keeps removing River as the [[Twelfth Doctor]]'s wife no matter how often it gets reverted and won't stop. Can you block them or at least protect that page so they can't mess with it anymore???--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] [[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:26, June 9, 2016 (UTC)
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| Thank you. Not sure blocking the user would do any good since they are unregistered but protecting the page should at least keep them at bay.--[[User:WarGrowlmon18|WarGrowlmon18]] [[User talk:WarGrowlmon18|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:25, June 9, 2016 (UTC)
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| == [[The Dalek Invasion of Earth (TV story)]]|The Dalek Invasion of Earth ==
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| Just a note to let you know that there are numerous pictures in this page that are not showing and have red links in their sections. I did try to fix one of them without success.
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| Thanks
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| [[User:Mister Fifty|Mister Fifty]] [[User talk:Mister Fifty|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:31, June 9, 2016 (UTC)
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| == Apology ==
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| More that twice now have I accidentally described by note as "grammar a là Shambala108". I apologise if this looked like some kind of a negative feeling. In reality, only the first of these edits was an exact copy of your edit, so the intention was to credit the originator of the idea. The subsequent edits resulted from an unfortunate auto suggest functionality: I plan to write "grammar" and hit the "post" button just to realise that grammar was replaced with the above note on auto suggest. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:35, June 12, 2016 (UTC)
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| == the pinball machine page ==
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| Greetings,
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| I noticed that you removed the categories i added to the pinball game page, but I don't understand why.
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| I suspect that you have false assumptions about this unusual pinball machine:
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| it comes with an plot, a new variation of the who opening theme by the machine composer using the machine sounds chips, voice actings (by McCoy and Terry Molloy), and a video screen (with a recreation of the diamond opening title, and includes some video game sequences using the flippers as a fancy game pad)
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| The story is available in the game technical manual, on the flyers and the promo video. You can easily find them online.
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| I intend to write these details in the main article soon (after finding sources), but i can guarantee that each of the tag I put on this article before were relevant.
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Something you might want to look into[[edit source]]
Hello, User:Shambala108.
Sorry to disturb you with this, but I felt you needed to be informed of this edit here, where, even after I informed them on what you once told me about how featuring is to only include recurring characters to prevent overcrowding, User:Epsilon the Eternal still readded a single episode character to the section, essentially because they were pivotal to the plot, and then justified it by saying that an admin's word is not policy and can be ignored (at least by my reading of their edit summery). And why the character in question, Rose Noble, had showed up in a short story, they have ignored my explanation that the short story doesn't make her a recurring character due to it's nature as a prelude to the episode and my request for a few weeks of patience to see if she returns.
I've actually been meaning to message you about them and their decorum for some time, but this blatant disregard towards your words has pushed me into action now. For the past few months, their edit summaries have included treating arguments against their edits as attacks on the merit of their opinion, reverted edits based on actions not yet taken, put "More to Added" on fully released articles instead of contributing themselves, indulge in rude wording on multiple occasions (even using the name of the Lord in vain), and engaged in unneeded hostilities on talk pages.
I was hoping to ask if you could have a word with them, if it's not to much trouble, to inform them on proper Wiki etiquette towards other editors, and to avoid getting to personal in their edit summaries, and to remind them of why the featuring section on story pages is just for recurring characters.
Thank you for your time.
Sincerely,
BananaClownMan ☎ 04:34, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Shambala. There's the potential for an edit war at Beep the Meep. Wondering if you could help resolve it. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 22:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
I've looked through your cited page above, and looked over the linked examples.
I'm also aware of both editors' edits throughout the past few years, although acknowledge I've not been as active as I had been in the past.
I generally come at this from the perspective of 'is there a policy I can point to for a reason for this edit'. Epsilon does cite many of their edits regarding a policy. However the edit summary war is something that cannot continue, it's a nightmare to cite any discussion and it's not what the summaries are for regardless.
I'm unsure on a few of the cited issues by Banana, but can see how they may find some things vexatious.
I think all users can have their issues, and while Epsilon has had a few citations against them in the past, there have been extraneous circumstances around those in some regards.
We've not had a proper forum to engage new policies for in some time, and that's where rulings should come into play. Citing a reason for an edit especially something which might result in an edit war over inclusion of a character (or not) should be backed up by a talk page decision, forum or policy. Citing the word of an admin while it might seem like the 'voice of the flying spaghetti monster' in terms of resolving or justifying an edit, however it is better to be citing a policy or discussion. --Tangerineduel / talk 01:49, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
Hi, Shambala. This page keeps being vandalised. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 13:54, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
My "Who vs elsewhere" polls[[edit source]]
Hello,
Would the admins have any objections if I did some further entries to my "Who vs [insert]" polls? I know the cards are heavily stacked, but still...the Lord loves a tryer, eh?
Kevin 'Chalky' Kaiba ☎ 22:35, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Merry Christmas And Happy New Year[[edit source]]
Have a good rest of 2023 and a great 2024 and onward User:Sum41Champ
Hey! Hope all is going well. I don't have CheckUser access myself, since I'm not Fandom staff, but I'll pass it along, since it seems like we have reasonable suspicion!
Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Happy holidays.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 18:06, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- I just wanted to mention that User:Spongebob456 is probably the easiest Fandom staff member to contact for things like this as he's our wiki rep. He's who I've gone to for a few similar requests in the past (which I've done through his Discord but you could probably do through his talk page). Bongo50 ☎ 18:46, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- And that's exactly who I went to, in fact! But no problem at all.
- Spongebob456 confirmed via Discord that all the accounts you linked are, in fact, related. I'm giving indefinite blocks to the new accounts, and I'll leave it to you to decide how long to extend their sentence on whichever is their main account. Cheers
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 18:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
What's the purpose of the space? I See 0 effect that has on the page, Happy New Year. User:Sum41Champ
Trying to locate a missing thread[[edit source]]
Hell there. Hope all is well. I was wondering if you could help me with a query concerning a missing thread I am having trouble locating that is listed on several incarnations of the Doctor's articles. The thread I am referring to is mentioned as follows in the template on the articles's lede section:
As detailed at Thread:264489, character pages should only have AT MOST 2-3 sentences per story, not whole paragraphs of plot detail. This page needs a major cleanup in that area.
As you can see though, this link to said thread is red, hence doesn't take me anywhere when I click it.
Per some users (anonymous editors) removing it from the page, I began to do some digging as to the thread itself, in preparation for setting myself on the task of shortening down the Doctor articles myself in time, having already began work doing so with the CS links per my conversation with User:Scrooge MacDuck. In doing so, I discovered you are the one who added said template onto the Doctor articles back in 2020 (see the following link as an example: https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Twelfth_Doctor?diff=prev&oldid=3015495 )
Therefore, are you able to provide me information as to the thread itself or link me to the archive where it is stored? I don't want to trouble myself shortening all the articles if this thread has been superceded or reverted, hence does not actually have to be acted upon now. In which case, I could take to removing the templates from the Doctor's articles instead.
Looking forward to your reply. Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 17:01, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
- On this subject Shambala, it does still apply, it's just sorta been rolled into the broader reforms discussed in Forum:Temporary forums/Subpages 2.0, as Bongo alluded to on Snivy's talk. The work here has really been touch and go, but it's very much live policy, just a real headache to implement. And archived forum threads from the 2012-2020 forums are at User:SOTO/Forum Archive. (Well, okay, it's a bit more complicated than that, because there are actually some forum archives that can only be accessed through URLs and not that index. But it's pretty obvious where to look if you pay attention to the URLs.) Najawin ☎ 05:30, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
Yes, I know what you mean about the loading times. My experience on mobile viewing is atrocious for the long character articles and editing on mobile is near-impossible for me on them because it seems to crash or be so long to respond to the changes, even in source editor. Hence, I near-exclusively edit on desktop these days. I completely understand why editors appear apathetic to the change though; perhaps its the perks of superior internet speed or something, but these long articles do make editing a chore sometimes, necessitating having to edit solely in sections rather than whole page edits.
From what User:Bongolium500 sent me, it appears there's still the intention for the articles to be trimmed down as the template requests, it just seems no one - or very few editors - are actually bothering to do it, hence the templates remaining after 3 and a bit years of its request being placed. Same could be said for the CS link conversion since a mix of editors still use variants of the old format. If the task to do it is still needed though, and hence isn't going to be a waste of my time, I can begin implementing the change.
Thank you once more for responding to me message! Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 11:13, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
I Sent you a message on the purpose of spacing categories and you didn't get back. You have to give a solid reason as to how that affect a page for me to know the issue. User:Sum41Champ
Thank you so much! I appreciate the kind words. I'm always happy to fix and clean up articles whenever I see any that need it, and I'm glad to be part of such a welcoming wiki community. BlueSupergiant ☎ 19:01, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
