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{{Infobox Individual
|image            = The Eight (The Doomsday Chronometer).jpg
|image            = The Eight (The Doomsday Chronometer).jpg
|main alias        = Octavian
|main alias        = Osm, Octavian, Whitman, Mr Dull
|species          = Time Lord
|species          = Time Lord
|origin            = [[Gallifrey]]
|origin            = [[Gallifrey]]
|affiliation      =
|first            = The Eleven (audio story)
|first            = The Eleven (audio story)
|appearances      = {{il|[[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Eighth Piece (audio story)|The Eighth Piece]]''|[[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Doomsday Chronometer (audio story)|The Doomsday Chronometer]]''}}
|appearances      = {{il|[[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Eighth Piece (audio story)|The Eighth Piece]]''|[[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Doomsday Chronometer (audio story)|The Doomsday Chronometer]]''}}
|voice actor      = Tim McMullan
|voice actor      = Tim McMullan
|other voice actor = [[Mark Bonnar]], [[John Heffernan]]
|other voice actor = [[Mark Bonnar]], [[John Heffernan]], [[Julia McKenzie]]
}}{{Renegade Time Lord (The Eleven)}}
}}{{you may|Octavian (The Time of Angels)|n1=the member of the Church}}
'''The Eight''' was the main alias used by the eighth [[incarnation]] of a [[Renegade Time Lord (The Eleven)|Renegade Time Lord]] who suffered from [[regenerative dissonance]]. Unlike his other [[incarnation]]s, he attempted to be a "good man". Using [[meditation]], he was able to suppress the [[voice]]s of his previous incarnations.
{{Renegade Time Lord (The Eleven)}}
'''The Eight''' was the main alias used by the eighth [[incarnation]] of the Time Lord known as [[the Multitude]] who suffered from [[regenerative dissonance]].  
 
Unlike his other [[incarnation]]s, he attempted to be a "good man". Using [[meditation]], he was able to suppress the [[voice]]s of his previous incarnations.


== Biography ==
== Biography ==
=== Living as Father Octavian ===
=== As a physical being ===
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In [[14th century]] [[Prague]], the Eight witnessed [[the Clocksmith]] and the [[Solver]]s collecting the [[Syra]]n [[metal]] deposited by [[the Eleven]]'s [[the Eleven's TARDIS|TARDIS]] and claimed that the [[end of the universe]] was upon them. The Clocksmith had [[Duke (The Eighth Piece)|a duke]] imprison him in [[Prague Castle]] as he would not support the [[Doom Coalition]], although he eventually managed to escape. During this time, he was referred to as Osm by his jailors.
He became involved with the [[Time Lord]]s' (and his) future, attempting to stop the [[Eighth Doctor]] from assembling the [[Doomsday Chronometer]]. He linked [[mind]]s with the Doctor and "[[River Song|Sister Cantica]]" to stop [[the Clocksmith]]. After he was killed by the Clocksmith, the Eight retreated into [[the Doctor's TARDIS]] and [[regenerated]]. When the regeneration occurred, he heard the voices of his previous selves, who urged him to regenerate and also taunted him for not being one of them, while [[the Six]] wanted to return so he could [[kill]] people again. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Eighth Piece (audio story)|The Eighth Piece]]'' / ''[[The Doomsday Chronometer (audio story)|The Doomsday Chronometer]]'')
 
By [[1538]], the Eight was living as Brother Octavian in an [[England|English]] [[monastery]] where he was taught to deal with the [[voice]]s in his head by [[Malvern (The Eighth Piece)|Abbot Malvern]]. Upon seeing the [[Eighth Doctor]], he ran away, but later told the Abbot to make sure that the Doctor did not interfere in the matter of the Chronometer. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Eighth Piece (audio story)|The Eighth Piece]]'') He sent [[the Doctor's TARDIS]] to the [[Tower of London]] and, after he left with [[Risolva|Lady Risolva]], wrote a report of the Doctor's [[death]] for [[Thomas Cromwell]].
 
Stowing away in [[the Clocksmith's TARDIS]], the Eight arrived in [[2016]] [[Rome]] and saved [[Helen Sinclair]] from walking into the road. He went to the [[Science Museum, Rome|Science Museum]] to stop her from completing the Chronometer and met the Doctor and [[River Song]], launching a psychic attack against the Clocksmith. However, the Clocksmith attempted to kill the Eight, who later climbed from the rubble and [[regeneration|regenerated]] into [[the Nine]] in the Doctor's TARDIS. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Doomsday Chronometer (audio story)|The Doomsday Chronometer]]'')
 
=== Post-mortem activities ===
Shortly after regenerating into [[the Nine]], the Eight told him that his skill at [[meditation]] was not nearly as good as his own and that he could not hold back the voices. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Crucible of Souls (audio story)|The Crucible of Souls]]'')
 
While the Nine was being chased by the [[Chancellery Guard]], the Eight suggested to him that he surrender, a suggestion quickly shut down by their current incarnation. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Companion Piece (audio story)|Companion Piece]]'')


== Legacy ==
When the Eleven made a deal with the citizens of the Dark Universe to control the universe, he transferred his other selves into robot bodies. The Eight persona was reduced to the role of cleaning the Eleven's palaces, but this put him in a position to help [[Ace]], Cardinal [[Ollistra (The Side of the Angels)|Ollistra]] and Captain [[Rasmus (Deeptime Frontier)|Rasmus]] when they came to defeat the Eleven, the Eight using his cleaning solution to neutralise the other soldiers and lead them to the Dark Gate so that they could convince the Dark Citizens to withdraw. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Dark Universe (audio story)|Dark Universe]]'')
While [[the Nine]] was being chased by the [[Chancellery Guard]], the Eight suggested to him that he surrender, a suggestion quickly shut down by their current incarnation. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Companion Piece (audio story)|Companion Piece]]'')


When the Eleven made a deal with the citizens of the Dark Universe to control the universe, he transferred his other selves into robot bodies. The Eight persona was reduced to the role of cleaning the Eleven's palaces, but this put him in a position to help [[Ace]], Cardinal [[Ollistra]] and Captain [[Rasmus]] when they came to defeat the Eleven, the Eight using his cleaning solution to neutralise the other soldiers and lead them to the Dark Gate so that they could convince the Dark Citizens to withdraw ([[AUDIO]]: [[Dark Universe (audio story)|''Dark Universe'']]).
The Eight said that there was no need after the Eleven shot and killed [[Boss (The Side of the Angels)|a man]] and warned [[Joanie Carrington]] to leave her date with {{Hound}} so that the Eleven would kill her. The Doctor managed to convince some of the Eleven's previous selves that [[Padrac]] and [[Caleera|the Sonomancer]] did not want him and the Eight activated [[The Eleven's Time Ring|his Time Ring]] to send the Eleven back to Gallifrey. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Side of the Angels (audio story)|The Side of the Angels]]'')


As a thriving persona inside [[the Eleven]]'s [[consciousness]], he successfully took control of his physical [[body]] and told the Doctor about [[Padrac]]'s plans to use the [[Resonance Engine]] as a means to amplify [[Caleera]]'s powers. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Stop the Clock (audio story)|Stop the Clock]]'')
With the Doctor's encouragement, the Eight successfully took control of the Eleven's physical [[body]] and told the Doctor about [[Padrac]]'s plans to use the [[Resonance Engine]] as a means to amplify [[Caleera]]'s powers. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Stop the Clock (audio story)|Stop the Clock]]'')


When the Eleven acted to undermine the Nine's plan to use the [[Ravenous]] to kill the Doctor, Liv and Helen, the Eight assumed that he had "seen the light", but the Eleven coldly corrected his predecessor that he was only sparing them now in order to deliver a more devastating blow later. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Odds Against (audio story)|The Odds Against]]'')
When the Eleven acted to undermine the Nine's plan to use the [[Ravenous]] to kill the Doctor, Liv and Helen, the Eight assumed that he had "seen the light", but the Eleven coldly corrected his predecessor that he was only sparing them now in order to deliver a more devastating blow later. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Odds Against (audio story)|The Odds Against]]'')


When the Eleven was pretending to have been 'cured' of his condition after an attack by the Ravenous, he occasionally allowed the Eight out to give the impression that Eight was helping him keep the others in check, the other nine personas threatening to bury the Eight in their subconscious for good if he didn't go along with the lie ([[AUDIO]]: [[Whisper (audio story)|''Whisper'']], [[Planet of Dust (audio story)|''Planet of Dust'']])
When the Eleven was pretending to have been 'cured' of his condition after an attack by the Ravenous, he occasionally allowed the Eight out to give the impression that Eight was helping him keep the others in check, the other nine personas threatening to bury the Eight in their subconscious for good if he didn't go along with the lie. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Whisper (audio story)|Whisper]]'', ''[[Planet of Dust (audio story)|Planet of Dust]]'')


While [[the Twelve]] discussed her previous selves with the Doctor, who referred to the previous personas as "a mad stew of voices and personalities" who were all "mad and homicidal", she thought the Doctor was being unfair on the Eight, whom she described as "sweetness itself". The Doctor then conceded, and described him as "the exception that proved the rule". ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Planet of the Ogrons (audio story)|Planet of the Ogrons]]'')
While [[the Twelve]] discussed her previous selves with the Doctor, who referred to the previous personas as "a mad stew of voices and personalities" who were all "mad and homicidal", she thought the Doctor was being unfair on the Eight, whom she described as "sweetness itself". The Doctor then conceded, and described him as "the exception that proved the rule". ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Planet of the Ogrons (audio story)|Planet of the Ogrons]]'')


When [[Miskavel]] convinced the Eleven to split his minds into clones, the Eight was removed without being noticed by his other selves. Miskavel hid him in the coffin with the temporal lock. He convinced the Eleven that they needed [[The One (Time Lord)|The One]] to keep the balance of the dissonance. ([[AUDIO]]: {{cs|One for All (audio story)}})
He took control the Eleven after he visited a set of monk on [[Mollarus]]. Miskavel later framed him for the murder of [[Oliver Akkron]]. ([[AUDIO]]: {{cs|The Murder of Oliver Akkron (audio story)|The Murder of Oliver Akkron}})
== Behind the scenes ==
* The script of [[Dark Universe (audio story)|''Dark Universe'']] describes the Eight as "a short-lived but thoroughly decent man living with the torment of what his other lives have done."
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Latest revision as of 00:59, 22 October 2024

You may be looking for the member of the Church.

The Eight was the main alias used by the eighth incarnation of the Time Lord known as the Multitude who suffered from regenerative dissonance.

Unlike his other incarnations, he attempted to be a "good man". Using meditation, he was able to suppress the voices of his previous incarnations.

Biography[[edit] | [edit source]]

As a physical being[[edit] | [edit source]]

In 14th century Prague, the Eight witnessed the Clocksmith and the Solvers collecting the Syran metal deposited by the Eleven's TARDIS and claimed that the end of the universe was upon them. The Clocksmith had a duke imprison him in Prague Castle as he would not support the Doom Coalition, although he eventually managed to escape. During this time, he was referred to as Osm by his jailors.

By 1538, the Eight was living as Brother Octavian in an English monastery where he was taught to deal with the voices in his head by Abbot Malvern. Upon seeing the Eighth Doctor, he ran away, but later told the Abbot to make sure that the Doctor did not interfere in the matter of the Chronometer. (AUDIO: The Eighth Piece) He sent the Doctor's TARDIS to the Tower of London and, after he left with Lady Risolva, wrote a report of the Doctor's death for Thomas Cromwell.

Stowing away in the Clocksmith's TARDIS, the Eight arrived in 2016 Rome and saved Helen Sinclair from walking into the road. He went to the Science Museum to stop her from completing the Chronometer and met the Doctor and River Song, launching a psychic attack against the Clocksmith. However, the Clocksmith attempted to kill the Eight, who later climbed from the rubble and regenerated into the Nine in the Doctor's TARDIS. (AUDIO: The Doomsday Chronometer)

Post-mortem activities[[edit] | [edit source]]

Shortly after regenerating into the Nine, the Eight told him that his skill at meditation was not nearly as good as his own and that he could not hold back the voices. (AUDIO: The Crucible of Souls)

While the Nine was being chased by the Chancellery Guard, the Eight suggested to him that he surrender, a suggestion quickly shut down by their current incarnation. (AUDIO: Companion Piece)

When the Eleven made a deal with the citizens of the Dark Universe to control the universe, he transferred his other selves into robot bodies. The Eight persona was reduced to the role of cleaning the Eleven's palaces, but this put him in a position to help Ace, Cardinal Ollistra and Captain Rasmus when they came to defeat the Eleven, the Eight using his cleaning solution to neutralise the other soldiers and lead them to the Dark Gate so that they could convince the Dark Citizens to withdraw. (AUDIO: Dark Universe)

The Eight said that there was no need after the Eleven shot and killed a man and warned Joanie Carrington to leave her date with the Monk so that the Eleven would kill her. The Doctor managed to convince some of the Eleven's previous selves that Padrac and the Sonomancer did not want him and the Eight activated his Time Ring to send the Eleven back to Gallifrey. (AUDIO: The Side of the Angels)

With the Doctor's encouragement, the Eight successfully took control of the Eleven's physical body and told the Doctor about Padrac's plans to use the Resonance Engine as a means to amplify Caleera's powers. (AUDIO: Stop the Clock)

When the Eleven acted to undermine the Nine's plan to use the Ravenous to kill the Doctor, Liv and Helen, the Eight assumed that he had "seen the light", but the Eleven coldly corrected his predecessor that he was only sparing them now in order to deliver a more devastating blow later. (AUDIO: The Odds Against)

When the Eleven was pretending to have been 'cured' of his condition after an attack by the Ravenous, he occasionally allowed the Eight out to give the impression that Eight was helping him keep the others in check, the other nine personas threatening to bury the Eight in their subconscious for good if he didn't go along with the lie. (AUDIO: Whisper, Planet of Dust)

While the Twelve discussed her previous selves with the Doctor, who referred to the previous personas as "a mad stew of voices and personalities" who were all "mad and homicidal", she thought the Doctor was being unfair on the Eight, whom she described as "sweetness itself". The Doctor then conceded, and described him as "the exception that proved the rule". (AUDIO: Planet of the Ogrons)

When Miskavel convinced the Eleven to split his minds into clones, the Eight was removed without being noticed by his other selves. Miskavel hid him in the coffin with the temporal lock. He convinced the Eleven that they needed The One to keep the balance of the dissonance. (AUDIO: One for All [+]Loading...["One for All (audio story)"])

He took control the Eleven after he visited a set of monk on Mollarus. Miskavel later framed him for the murder of Oliver Akkron. (AUDIO: The Murder of Oliver Akkron [+]Loading...["The Murder of Oliver Akkron (audio story)","The Murder of Oliver Akkron"])

Behind the scenes[[edit] | [edit source]]

  • The script of Dark Universe describes the Eight as "a short-lived but thoroughly decent man living with the torment of what his other lives have done."