User talk:Shambala108

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T:NPA

Hi Shambala, I saw your recent post in Thread:260549 and noticed it seems to contain an inaccuracy. You said “on this wiki, it is up to the admins to decide matters of ... personal attacks”, whereas the actual policy on T:NPA specifies that “If you are personally attacked, you should ask the attacker to stop and note this policy”, and it is only if the attacks continue that you should “contact an Administrator and clearly state the problem” so that “the admin will evaluate the situation and attempt to mediate the issue.” Unless I’m severely misunderstanding the letter of the law, this means that personal attacks are not decided by the admins but by the attacked person, and it is only at their request that admins should get involved. This is standard policy across many wikis.

I hope you’re well! – N8 (☎/👁️) 17:36, January 9, 2020 (UTC)

When you get the chance, could you let me know if my reading of this is correct? If this is a place where the policy-as-written is out-of-date or wrong, it would be very useful to get it clarified. – N8 (☎/👁️) 15:43, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification! In answer to your "Hopefully," if I had to pick between Universe A where admins protect me from being accused of violating T:NPA, and Universe B where my statements of personal offense are respected by all parties regardless of admin approval, I would vastly better prefer Universe B. But it seems that the policy maintains a tidy balance between the two. Cheers! – N8 (☎/👁️) 16:05, January 13, 2020 (UTC)

User pages reply

Can I ask why this request is being made. To my mind, the "conjecture" tag is being used for its intended purpose. BananaClownMan ☎ 17:44, January 10, 2020 (UTC)

Vworping

Isn't the present tense of a verb also useable as a noun? If there is no page shouldn't this redirect to a section about the use of the verb?

TBH it was something I was unaware of til I watched with closed captions closely to Spyfall, but then to find out it is the namesake of Vworp Vworp! in 2010 makes me feel very ignorant for the last decade. talk2ty 16:08, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

Discussion policy

Hi there. I must confess your post on Thread:260549 citing Tardis:Discussion policy to me left me a bit confused. I might just be being an idiot but I'm honestly not sure how to stay on-topic to the thread by addressing User:Amorkuz's concerns when both of his most recent posts seem to be in direct violation of Tardis:Spoiler policy which is in turn cited at T:DISCUSS. It would be much appreciated if you could enlighten me as there are clearly things I do not know yet. Pleasure speaking to you as always and thanks in advance. --Borisashton ☎ 22:20, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

I can appreciate the sentiment of your reason for removing my last comment but I wonder if it was helpful to Amorkuz. If Amorkuz didn't see SOTO's message, as I assumed since SOTO's was the immediately preceding post, then I feel like I was in fact helping Amorkuz so he could edit or remove his response addressing Eloquence. As an admin, would you mind posting a message to that effect to clear up any confusion? Thanks, --Borisashton ☎ 01:24, January 12, 2020 (UTC)

RE:Talk pages

Hi. Okay, will do. Thanks. --DCLM ☎ 08:32, January 13, 2020 (UTC)

Plot summaries vs. character biographies

Considering the thread was sparked by your own post in the "To-do list" on the Forums, I invite you to please weigh in at Thread:264489 whenever you find the time. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 12:12, January 13, 2020 (UTC)

1.3 HTML tidying

Hi

Tried posting the link below on facebook as a friend gad mentioned watching Carnival of Monsters. But comes up with a 404 error. Suspect it might be the exclamation mark within the URL.

https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Monsters_Are_Coming!

Vanishing infobox

The issue is resolved now, but at the time it wasn't displaying any variables, just the name itself. It seems to have had something to do with the spaces, which might have been non-breaking spaces (or something similar), that MediaWiki just won't recognise. I replaced the spaces between the variable names and the equal signs manually in this edit, and all the information popped up again.
×   SOTO contribs ×°/↯/•]   💬•| {/-//:   05:24, January 19, 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, that was very, very strange. Now we know what to do if it crops up again, though. :)
×   SOTO contribs ×°/↯/•]   💬•| {/-//:   05:45, January 19, 2020 (UTC)

Admin nomination

Hello. As of my time of writing, you're the admin to have edited a page. This message is a request to make a thread/announcement that I've put myself foward for Admin nomination, like there was for the last time there was a nomination. Also, I'd very much look foward to your comments on the matter, of course. Anyway, thank you in advance OncomingStorm12th ☎ 01:26, January 22, 2020 (UTC)

Howling

Hey. Could I ask you to revisit this page. I've added some new information and would like your opinion on it. Thanks --DCLM ☎ 08:46, January 23, 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry do you have an issue with my images, they are real they were taken in April 1983 at Longleat House, they are my property to publish.

Yours ThetaSigma1564

Gereld/Gerard Carey

Hi Shambala, just wanted to direct your attention to two pages which I think need sorting. I was going to put a message on the 'talk page', but I thought it would be quicker to write hear so it has your attention.

In the Torchwood TV story Meat, there is character named Greg who is portrayed by an actor credited by Gereld Carey. In From Out of the Rain, there is a character named Greg who is portrayed by an actor credited by Gerard Carey.

After having done some research, 'Meat' actually credits the actor as 'Gerard Carey' and not 'Gereld Carey'. Also, there was no such character named 'Greg' in 'From Out of the Rain', and is probably just a credits mistake.

I was just wondering if we would be able to delete the page known as Gereld Carey (since this name is never used in any credit), change the role on the 'Gerard Carey' page, and put a note in the page for 'From Out of the Rain' which states that the character has been 'double-credited'. Sorry if this is all really confusing - it took me a few moments to establish what was going on! I would have done this all myself, but wanted to confirm with you first. I am more than happy to make the changes, but just wanted your opinion first. Thanks again! Layton4 - 22:09, 28/1/2020

Linking

Hello,

I have made a box to link to other wiki's of popular tv series. Would you like to place it on your main page so we can direct people to each others wiki's?

Gilmore Girls ☆ Married with Children ☆ Nurses ☆ Planet of the Apes ☆ Relic Hunter ☆ Saint Nicholas and Black Pete ☆ Star Trek ☆ Sweet Valley High

Thank you.

Regards,

PowerWikiNL

Violent behavior

Hey Shambala. Could you please take a moment to look into User:86.12.165.34. Their behaviour on the Wikia is highly inappropriate and they have even launched a personal attack on me. It would be appreciated. Thanks. --DCLM ☎ 12:47, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Another user, User:Unbanned reality talk, is refusing to abide by the rules of the Wikia too, and seem to be leaning towards hatred towards a certain area of society. --DCLM ☎ 13:54, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Hello, this is Shambala. I would just like to say how dare you? How dare you question User:86.12.165.34? She is a great contributor to this wiki, as well as really cute and cool and funny and intelligent. You may show yourself out. Thanks for the tip on User:Unbanned reality talk though, will ban them soon. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.123.3.40 (talk).

That first bit is a joke right? --DCLM ☎ 14:47, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

The shoe is on the other foot. Dissident Prodigy ☎ 02:28, February 6, 2020 (UTC)

No. It’s real. Get off my talk page. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.123.3.40 (talk).

Stop pretending to be Shambala108. You are an unregistered Wikia contributor. Actually I think it's illegal to pretend to be someone else. I HAVE seen who is writing these messages, don't pretend. --DCLM ☎ 14:54, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Hello Shambala. No need for action anyway, as User:Tangerineduel was quick to step in and deal with the situation. Including the person pretending to be you just above. --DCLM ☎ 16:27, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Based on the above conversation, their edit histories, and User talk:213.123.3.40, I think it's quite likely that 213.123.3.40 (now banned) is the same user as 86.12.165.34, who was temporarily banned in 2018 but is now still unbanned. – N8 (☎/👁️) 20:19, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

I think that is correct. "213.123.3.40" was banned for sock-puppetry. And I think there was somewhere else where they explicitly stated they were the same. --DCLM ☎ 20:41, February 5, 2020 (UTC)

Just FYI, since you banned them

User:Dissident Prodigy appears to be a sock puppet User:Unbanned reality talk. The former was created suspiciously quickly after the latter was banned, the names are vaguely similar, and the former’s only contributions are removing messages insulting the latter from his talk page (including that one message about mentioning logical fallacies by name being ‘reddit-tier arguing’, which, if you look at the history, the latter kept trying to remove - obviously it hit too close to home), as well as a supsicious cryptic comment about the ‘shoe [being] on the other foot’ on this very talk page. Probably something you should look into. 82.132.220.11^{talk to me} 13:03, February 6, 2020 (UTC)

Continued obstruction of the Wikia

Hi Shambala. I was wondering if you could take action against User:120.20.195.104? They are obstructing the work on the Wikia because of bitterness at being corrected on the S12 page. Specifically my work. And thus preventing the Wikia from properly working. --DCLM ☎ 12:01, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Aw, shucks. Respond to the talk page. 120.20.195.104^{talk to me} 12:03, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

And further they're also actively attempting to engage me to continue an argument that I ended because I can't keep debunking the same over and over. Simply look at the obstruction they are doing. --DCLM ☎ 12:08, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Can't debunk the fact that the <redacted per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]> . Nice. Thanks for admitting that. Goddamned Danish people, can't even speak English. 120.20.195.104^{talk to me} 12:09, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

The evidence speaks for itself. Spoiling facts on other pages and personal attacks too. --DCLM ☎ 12:12, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

How's it a spoiler when the Series 12 article literally includes this information? Go remove it then. <redacted per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]>. Fuck sake. 120.20.195.104^{talk to me} 12:13, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Tardis:Spoiler policy. Go read it. --DCLM ☎ 12:14, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

<redacted per [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]> Go add it. 120.20.195.104^{talk to me} 12:16, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Never mind. User:Tangerineduel took care of it. Thanks anyway. --DCLM ☎ 13:17, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

I'd like to say thank you for this, even though it was mostly removal of the spoilery content. --DCLM ☎ 15:14, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

Images

Hey there. Can you point me in the direction of the policy you cited at Talk:The Doctor in popular culture and mythology? I remember reading it but after a quick look I was unable to find it. Thanks in advance for the help, --Borisashton ☎ 23:59, February 14, 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that. As the "one image per section" rule is actually a guideline would you be opposed to me re-adding a few images to some of the sections; perhaps three or four in As a real person and one in Reputation as a renegade? One reason for this is wall-of-text syndrome. Certainly in the first example, you go a long time without anything but paragraphs of text.

Secondly, and more crucially I think, the article is unique at this stage in its existence. Although I plan to create more, the type of article The Doctor in popular culture and mythology tries to be is one of a kind. It is not like previously cited examples like the Master or Doctor pages where the vast amount of images stems from massive biographies. Instead, the article focuses in on the impact of the Doctor on the world, mostly, but not limited to their varied depiction in visual media. I believe images such as File:Doctor Ten at Trafalgar Square.jpg and File:Nine waves.jpg are vital to understanding the content of the article, that being the various portrayals of the Doctor within the DWU. Sure, we as wiki editors/readers know the fugitive Tenth Doctor in File:Newsreader sound of drums.jpg is the same as the Olympic Torch bearer in File:Tenth Doctor main14.jpg but from an in-universe perspective it wouldn't be outrageous to think these two men just looked alike. In short, I feel so much is lost by removing all of these images and it would be doing the wiki and its readers a disservice to pick just one and not give comparisons to these portrayals. Thanks for reading, --Borisashton ☎ 00:56, February 15, 2020 (UTC)

Since User:BananaClownMan has now expressed confusion/dislike (I don't know, I couldn't find their block appeal so a link would be helpful) of this guideline a reply to this query would be helpful if you have the time. The "problem" has become consdiderably more dire since I last wrote. Thanks again, --Borisashton ☎ 01:23, March 22, 2020 (UTC)

A Stitch in Time

Dear Shambala108,

On the page A Stitch In Time (CC Story)), it seems the editor seemingly misplaced a picture with a Comic Cover of Episode 2. I don’t think this is vandalism. It’s probably just a mistake by the editor of the article.

Doctor pages

Hey, it's all cool. I noticed that you had restored the info and them went a bit without moving forward on deleting the others, so I assumed something of the sort had happened. :) OncomingStorm12th (talk) 00:36, February 27, 2020 (UTC)

Research on Fandom Wikia

Hi, I am conducting research on user activity on fandom wikia. I am trying to get responses from as many people from the fandom community as possible so is there a way to spread this survey as much as possible. The survey is quick and completely confidential and it would be extremely helpful if you could take the time to fill it out through the attached link below.

https://forms.gle/roCGKYfavnrVDjDZ6

Thank you so much!

RobinZoro ☎ 20:34, February 27, 2020 (UTC)RobinZoro

Morbius Doctors

I have left an answer to your message at Talk:The Doctor (The Brain of Morbius) about which I'd quite like your opinion. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 10:53, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

Personal attacks

I'll ask you to avoid making personal attacks. It's very unprofessional of you as an admin, constantly asserting bad faith. It makes it really hard for the wiki to feel like a safe place to be. :/// OS25🤙☎️ 01:03, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

It's utterly unprofessional of you to attack my character in a forum, or to belittle any stance I choose based on your opinions of me. Sorry to say it, but I think you shouldn't attack a user as an admin, I think it breaks policies and you could strive to be better. ://////// OS25🤙☎️ 02:34, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

Response ping

Hi Shambala108, just wanted to give you a ping that I've responded on User talk:OttselSpy25#Re:Personal attacks. – N8 (☎/👁️) 13:16, March 4, 2020 (UTC)

The Old Man and the Teenage Girl

I would respectfully disagree that those redirects are "unlikely to be searched for". We can't have the pages be named Iphigenia (Beige Planet Mars) and Forty-second Doctor, because those identities were given off-page in reference material; but these identities are clearly the main reason a fan would want to check out the pages. There exist rumors of Parkin's deleted 42nd Doctor from The Dying Days at least, and it is very easy to picture someone typing "Forty-second Doctor" in the search bar, finding nothing, and assuming we have no record of this character all on the Wiki, when in fact we do, just under the name of Old man (Beige Planet Mars) because the character's name hasn't been confirmed in a valid source. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 21:15, March 15, 2020 (UTC)

6.3 Changed category

I am sorry, but I don't understand why Dalek is not an specie.

Thanks.

邢家朋 ☎ 03:42, March 17, 2020 (UTC)

6.3 Changed category

Thanks!邢家朋 ☎ 03:53, March 17, 2020 (UTC)

Coverage and/or validity of dubs

Hi! Thought you'd like to know that User:WaltK has opened a Panopticon thread concerning how best to cover information original to the Portuguese dub of The Ghost Monument on the Wiki. Since, some time back, you deleted the page Palmirinha because it was based on information from a dub (deleted, mind you, not tagged as invalid, which I think is a bit peculiar) I assume you must have some opinions on the subject, which I think everyone on the thread would be interested to hear exposed at more length than you could in the necessarily-brief deletion rationale of Palmirinha. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 18:40, March 19, 2020 (UTC)

Oh, I wasn't demanding anything, quickly or otherwise, sorry if I came across that way. Take your time!--Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 01:56, March 20, 2020 (UTC)

RE:admins

Actually I was about to inform User:SOTO about having told them multiple times without luck. I wrote to SOTO's talk page at the same time as you wrote to me on MY talk page. --DCLM ☎ 22:55, March 26, 2020 (UTC)

Just a note. User:Connorguy was one of the users who kept enforcing the speculative content, even though he was not the one who "created" it. --DCLM ☎ 23:26, March 26, 2020 (UTC)

Another unrelated and repentant note seeing the above: I fully admit, in light of the above kerfuffle, that I kept arguing with User:BananaClownMan for too long over edit summaries at The Doctor's saviour earlier today before I realised we weren't getting anywhere productive, at which point I finally had the sense to drop a message on BCM's talk page. I think the object-level issue's solved now, and no personal attacks were endured on either side of the conversation, but I felt it only fair to mention to you that 1) it happened, and 2) I realised I was in the wrong. (About my method of going about the editing, I mean; about the object-level issue, I was correct, as BCM appears to have eventually agreed. But that's not really either here or there.)--Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 23:34, March 26, 2020 (UTC)

Meh. Water under the bridge. (Pun not intended). I'm just glad we were able to find a common ground in the end. ;D BananaClownMan ☎ 23:48, March 26, 2020 (UTC)