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series=[[ | |image = The Boy that Time Forgot cover.jpg | ||
number= 110 | | |range = Main Range | ||
doctor= | |number in range = 110 | ||
companions= [[Nyssa]] | | |series = ''[[Main Range]]'' | ||
enemy= [[ | |number = 110 | ||
|doctor = Fifth Doctor | |||
writer= | |companions = [[Nyssa]] | ||
director= [[Barnaby Edwards]] | | |featuring = Adric | ||
|featuring2 = Beatrice Mapp | |||
|enemy = [[Scorpion|Sentient scorpions]] | |||
release date= | |setting = {{il|[[London]], [[April]] [[1868]]|[[Earth]], [[Adric's bubble universe|bubble universe]], [[Distant past|65,000,000 BC]]}} | ||
format= | |writer = Paul Magrs | ||
production code= 6C/L | | |director = [[Barnaby Edwards]] | ||
isbn= ISBN 978-1-84435-319-4| | |producer = [[David Richardson]] | ||
|music = [[Steve Foxon]] | |||
next story= [[ | |sound = Steve Foxon | ||
|cover = [[Barry Piggott]] | |||
|epcount = 4 | |||
|publisher = Big Finish Productions | |||
|release date = 30 July 2008 | |||
|format = 2 CDs<br/>Download | |||
|production code = [[List of production codes#Big Finish production codes|6C/L]] | |||
|isbn = ISBN 978-1-84435-319-4 (physical)<br/>ISBN 978-1-78575-657-3 (digital) | |||
|prev = Spider's Shadow (audio story) | |||
|next = The Doomwood Curse (audio story) | |||
|made prev = Spider's Shadow (audio story) | |||
|made next = The Destroyer of Delights (audio story) | |||
|musicsuite = https://soundcloud.com/stevefoxon/12-the-boy-that-time-forgot | |||
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'''''{{StoryTitle}}''''' was the one hundred and tenth story in [[Big Finish]]'s [[Main Range|monthly range]]. It was written by [[Paul Magrs]] and featured [[Peter Davison]] as the [[Fifth Doctor]] and [[Sarah Sutton]] as [[Nyssa]]. | |||
==Publisher's | It was a sequel to both ''[[Earthshock (TV story)|Earthshock]]'' and ''[[The Haunting of Thomas Brewster (audio story)|The Haunting of Thomas Brewster]]''. It described not only how the Fifth Doctor and [[Nyssa]] retrieved [[The Doctor's TARDIS|the TARDIS]] after letting it fall into [[Thomas Brewster|Brewster]]'s hands at the end of ''Haunting'', but also rewrote [[Adric]]'s ''Earthshock'' ending. Although it definitely retconned Adric's earlier death, it allowed the original to stand, if only as "half of the story". | ||
In a weird jungle valley, the Victorian explorer [[Rupert Von Thal]] saves Bloomsbury novelist [[Beatrice Mapp]] from a ghastly death in the grip of a monstrous mantis. But this is no Lost World of the [[dinosaur]]s. According to their travelling companions, [[Fifth | |||
Like ''Earthshock'' it was notable for clever secrecy in its marketing. Most [[2008 (releases)|2008]] purchasers had no idea that the story involved [[Adric]] at all, thanks to his listing in the credits as the "Scorpion King", and the fact that the character was played here by [[Andrew Sachs]], not [[Matthew Waterhouse]]. | |||
Though Brewster did not appear until the closing minutes of the story, ''Boy'' was important to the development of that character by highlighting important similarities with Adric, and for being the adventure in which Brewster was formally invited to join the TARDIS crew. | |||
The story was also significant for its heavy use and expansion upon [[Block Transfer Computation]], a significant concept from ''[[Logopolis (TV story)|Logopolis]]'' and ''[[Castrovalva (TV story)|Castrovalva]]''. | |||
== Publisher's summary == | |||
In a weird jungle valley, the [[Victorian]] explorer [[Rupert Von Thal]] saves Bloomsbury novelist [[Beatrice Mapp]] from a ghastly death in the grip of a monstrous mantis. But this is no Lost World of the [[dinosaur]]s. According to their travelling companions, the [[Fifth Doctor]] and [[Nyssa]], all four have been transported back to a primitive Earth that should never have existed! | |||
Further down the valley is the vast city where the scorpions live. Walking, talking, intelligent scorpions, ruled over by their [[Adric|cruel and sinister master]]. The Doctor and Nyssa are being drawn ever tighter into the clutches of... the boy that time forgot. | Further down the valley is the vast city where the scorpions live. Walking, talking, intelligent scorpions, ruled over by their [[Adric|cruel and sinister master]]. The Doctor and Nyssa are being drawn ever tighter into the clutches of... the boy that time forgot. | ||
==Cast== | == Plot == | ||
*[[Fifth Doctor|The Doctor]] - [[Peter Davison]] | ''to be added'' | ||
*[[Nyssa]] - [[Sarah Sutton]] | |||
*[[Adric| | == Cast == | ||
*[[Beatrice Mapp|Mrs Beatrice Mapp]] - [[Harriet Walter]] | * [[Fifth Doctor|The Doctor]] - [[Peter Davison]] | ||
*[[Rupert Von Thal]] - [[Adrian Scarborough]] | * [[Nyssa]] - [[Sarah Sutton]] | ||
*[[Kranlee]] - [[Oliver Senton]] | * The [[Adric|Scorpion King]] - [[Andrew Sachs]] | ||
*[[Teegarna|Madam | * [[Beatrice Mapp|Mrs Beatrice Mapp]] - [[Harriet Walter]] | ||
* [[Rupert Von Thal]] - [[Adrian Scarborough]] | |||
* [[Kranlee]] / [[Lohkaar]] / [[Grandfather Scorpion]] / [[Quandry|Professor Quandry]] - [[Oliver Senton]] | |||
* [[Teegarna|Madam Teegarna]] / [[Grandmother Scorpion]] / [[Brenda]] - [[Claire Wyatt]] | |||
=== Uncredited === | |||
* [[Thomas Brewster]] - [[John Pickard]] | |||
== Crew == | |||
* Cover Art - [[Barry Piggott]] | |||
* Director - [[Barnaby Edwards]] | |||
* Executive Producers - [[Nicholas Briggs]] and [[Jason Haigh-Ellery]] | |||
* Music and Sound Design - [[Steve Foxon]] | |||
* Producer - [[David Richardson]] | |||
* Script Editor - [[Alan Barnes]] | |||
* Writer - [[Paul Magrs]] | |||
== Worldbuilding == | |||
=== The Doctor === | |||
* During the block transfer computations the Doctor's subconscious sleepwalks through time to [[Briggs' freighter]], assisting Adric in breaking the computations on the [[Cybermen]]'s computer. | |||
=== The Doctor's age === | |||
* The Doctor says he is "hundreds of years" older than the elderly Adric. However, he makes this statement before Adric reveals that he is over 500 years old. | |||
=== Individuals === | |||
* The Doctor mentions [[Iris Wildthyme]] would be around in [[London]] in [[1868]] but they would not ask her for help. | |||
* Teegarna means "mouth on legs", matching [[Tegan Jovanka]]'s description of herself. ([[TV]]: ''[[Earthshock (TV story)|Earthshock]]'') | |||
* Kranlee is probably named for [[Charles Cranleigh|Lord Cranleigh]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[Black Orchid (TV story)|Black Orchid]]'') | |||
* The Doctor compares Brewster to [[Adric]]. | |||
=== Locations === | |||
* The Scorpion King creates a city out of pure computations, the City of Excellence, watched over by Star, the remains of the alien computer the Cybermen left in control of the freighter. | |||
=== TARDIS === | |||
* The Scorpion King mentions [[the Doctor's TARDIS]] has a "[[flux capacitor]]" (perhaps as a joke), which is the time-travel component from Dr. Emmett 'Doc' Brown's time-travelling DeLorean in the ''[[Back to the Future]]'' film trilogy. | |||
=== Time travel === | |||
* The Doctor attempts to use [[Block Transfer Computation]]s to [[time travel]]. It requires a quorum of twelve people. | |||
* The Doctor describes the version of reality created by Adric's survival as existing "In its own bubble of time." Adric's departure seals the bubble off from the rest of the universe. | |||
== | == Gallery == | ||
<gallery position="center" captionalign="center" hideaddbutton="true" widths="250"> | |||
The Boy that Time Forgot cover.jpg|Original cover art | |||
The Boy That Time Forgot DWM 397.jpg|Illustrated preview by [[Anthony Dry]] in [[DWM 397]] | |||
</gallery> | |||
==Notes== | == Notes == | ||
'' | * ''The Boy That Time Forgot'' was released on [[30 July (releases)|30 July]] [[2008 (releases)|2008]].<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20081010234921/http://www.bigfinish.com/News/?Page=2</ref> | ||
* This story marks the first appearance of [[Adric]] in an audio drama, though an illusory version of him created by the [[Kro'ka]] appeared in ''[[The Last (audio story)|The Last]]''. He would later appear in ''[[The Darkening Eye (audio story)|The Darkening Eye]]'' and ''[[The Invasion of E-Space (audio story)|The Invasion of E-Space]]'', although not portrayed by his original actor [[Matthew Waterhouse]], who would not reprise the role until ''[[Psychodrome (audio story)|Psychodrome]]'' and ''[[Iterations of I (audio story)|Iterations of I]]'' in [[2014 (releases)|2014]]. | |||
* [[Rupert Von Thal]] and [[Beatrice Mapp]] also appeared in Paul Magrs' novel ''The Bride That Time Forgot'', the fifth instalment in his ''[[The Brenda and Effie Mysteries (series)|The Brenda and Effie Mysteries]]'' series. | |||
* This audio drama was recorded on [[15 April (production)|15]] and [[16 April (production)|16 April]] [[2008 (production)|2008]] at [[The Moat Studios]]. | |||
* This story is set between ''[[Time-Flight (TV story)|Time-Flight]]'' and ''[[Arc of Infinity (TV story)|Arc of Infinity]]''. | |||
* This story was originally released on CD and download. | |||
* This story was previewed in [[DWM 397]] with an illustration from [[Anthony Dry]]. | |||
==Continuity== | == Continuity == | ||
* | * Since the events of [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|The Haunting of Thomas Brewster (audio story)}}, [[Fifth Doctor|the Doctor]] has shaved the beard which he had grown at some point between [[November]] [[1866]] and [[November]] [[1867]] as the scientists at the British Royal Academy were not taking him seriously due to his youthful appearance. | ||
*Tegan was left at Heathrow | * The Doctor and Nyssa recall Adric's supposed death at the end of [[TV]]: {{cs|Earthshock (TV story)}}. | ||
*The Doctor states that | * Tegan was left at [[Heathrow Airport]] in [[1982]], as depicted in [[TV]]: {{cs|Time-Flight (TV story)}}. | ||
*The Doctor, Nyssa and Adric all speak of | * The Doctor states that "time is circular", possibly alluding to [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Circular Time (audio anthology)|Circular Time]]''. | ||
*Thomas Brewster stole the TARDIS in [[ | * The Doctor, [[Nyssa]] and [[Adric]] all speak of [[Logopolis]] and the [[Logopolitan]]s, from [[TV]]: {{cs|Logopolis (TV story)}}. | ||
* [[Thomas Brewster]] stole the TARDIS on [[14 November]] [[1867]], as heard in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|The Haunting of Thomas Brewster (audio story)}}. | |||
* The Doctor is reluctant to ask the [[renegade Time Lord|renegade]] [[Time Lord|Time Lady]] [[Iris Wildthyme]] for assistance. Later in his fifth incarnation, the Doctor would encounter Iris on [[Excelis]] in [[AUDIO]]: {{cs|Excelis Dawns (audio story)}}. According to Iris in that story, she had previously spent one [[Christmas]] with the Doctor, [[Adric]], [[Nyssa]] and [[Tegan Jovanka]]. She came to dislike Tegan, describing her as "that shrill [[Australia]]n woman." | |||
* In his [[Seventh Doctor|seventh incarnation]], the Doctor would meet [[Adric]] on one further occasion in [[PROSE]]: {{cs|Cold Fusion (novel)}}. Those events occurred shortly after the events of [[TV]]: {{cs|Castrovalva (TV story)}} and therefore prior to Adric's apparent death from the perspective of his fifth incarnation, whom the Seventh Doctor also met on that occasion. | |||
* The Doctor wishes, on meeting Adric's pet [[spider]], that he would meet normal sized spiders for once. He previously encountered [[Eight Legs|giant spiders]] in [[TV]]: {{cs|Planet of the Spiders (TV story)}}. | |||
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Latest revision as of 11:44, 11 September 2024
The Boy That Time Forgot was the one hundred and tenth story in Big Finish's monthly range. It was written by Paul Magrs and featured Peter Davison as the Fifth Doctor and Sarah Sutton as Nyssa.
It was a sequel to both Earthshock and The Haunting of Thomas Brewster. It described not only how the Fifth Doctor and Nyssa retrieved the TARDIS after letting it fall into Brewster's hands at the end of Haunting, but also rewrote Adric's Earthshock ending. Although it definitely retconned Adric's earlier death, it allowed the original to stand, if only as "half of the story".
Like Earthshock it was notable for clever secrecy in its marketing. Most 2008 purchasers had no idea that the story involved Adric at all, thanks to his listing in the credits as the "Scorpion King", and the fact that the character was played here by Andrew Sachs, not Matthew Waterhouse.
Though Brewster did not appear until the closing minutes of the story, Boy was important to the development of that character by highlighting important similarities with Adric, and for being the adventure in which Brewster was formally invited to join the TARDIS crew.
The story was also significant for its heavy use and expansion upon Block Transfer Computation, a significant concept from Logopolis and Castrovalva.
Publisher's summary[[edit] | [edit source]]
In a weird jungle valley, the Victorian explorer Rupert Von Thal saves Bloomsbury novelist Beatrice Mapp from a ghastly death in the grip of a monstrous mantis. But this is no Lost World of the dinosaurs. According to their travelling companions, the Fifth Doctor and Nyssa, all four have been transported back to a primitive Earth that should never have existed!
Further down the valley is the vast city where the scorpions live. Walking, talking, intelligent scorpions, ruled over by their cruel and sinister master. The Doctor and Nyssa are being drawn ever tighter into the clutches of... the boy that time forgot.
Plot[[edit] | [edit source]]
to be added
Cast[[edit] | [edit source]]
- The Doctor - Peter Davison
- Nyssa - Sarah Sutton
- The Scorpion King - Andrew Sachs
- Mrs Beatrice Mapp - Harriet Walter
- Rupert Von Thal - Adrian Scarborough
- Kranlee / Lohkaar / Grandfather Scorpion / Professor Quandry - Oliver Senton
- Madam Teegarna / Grandmother Scorpion / Brenda - Claire Wyatt
Uncredited[[edit] | [edit source]]
Crew[[edit] | [edit source]]
- Cover Art - Barry Piggott
- Director - Barnaby Edwards
- Executive Producers - Nicholas Briggs and Jason Haigh-Ellery
- Music and Sound Design - Steve Foxon
- Producer - David Richardson
- Script Editor - Alan Barnes
- Writer - Paul Magrs
Worldbuilding[[edit] | [edit source]]
The Doctor[[edit] | [edit source]]
- During the block transfer computations the Doctor's subconscious sleepwalks through time to Briggs' freighter, assisting Adric in breaking the computations on the Cybermen's computer.
The Doctor's age[[edit] | [edit source]]
- The Doctor says he is "hundreds of years" older than the elderly Adric. However, he makes this statement before Adric reveals that he is over 500 years old.
Individuals[[edit] | [edit source]]
- The Doctor mentions Iris Wildthyme would be around in London in 1868 but they would not ask her for help.
- Teegarna means "mouth on legs", matching Tegan Jovanka's description of herself. (TV: Earthshock)
- Kranlee is probably named for Lord Cranleigh. (TV: Black Orchid)
- The Doctor compares Brewster to Adric.
Locations[[edit] | [edit source]]
- The Scorpion King creates a city out of pure computations, the City of Excellence, watched over by Star, the remains of the alien computer the Cybermen left in control of the freighter.
TARDIS[[edit] | [edit source]]
- The Scorpion King mentions the Doctor's TARDIS has a "flux capacitor" (perhaps as a joke), which is the time-travel component from Dr. Emmett 'Doc' Brown's time-travelling DeLorean in the Back to the Future film trilogy.
Time travel[[edit] | [edit source]]
- The Doctor attempts to use Block Transfer Computations to time travel. It requires a quorum of twelve people.
- The Doctor describes the version of reality created by Adric's survival as existing "In its own bubble of time." Adric's departure seals the bubble off from the rest of the universe.
Gallery[[edit] | [edit source]]
Illustrated preview by Anthony Dry in DWM 397
Notes[[edit] | [edit source]]
- The Boy That Time Forgot was released on 30 July 2008.[1]
- This story marks the first appearance of Adric in an audio drama, though an illusory version of him created by the Kro'ka appeared in The Last. He would later appear in The Darkening Eye and The Invasion of E-Space, although not portrayed by his original actor Matthew Waterhouse, who would not reprise the role until Psychodrome and Iterations of I in 2014.
- Rupert Von Thal and Beatrice Mapp also appeared in Paul Magrs' novel The Bride That Time Forgot, the fifth instalment in his The Brenda and Effie Mysteries series.
- This audio drama was recorded on 15 and 16 April 2008 at The Moat Studios.
- This story is set between Time-Flight and Arc of Infinity.
- This story was originally released on CD and download.
- This story was previewed in DWM 397 with an illustration from Anthony Dry.
Continuity[[edit] | [edit source]]
- Since the events of AUDIO: The Haunting of Thomas Brewster [+]Loading...["The Haunting of Thomas Brewster (audio story)"], the Doctor has shaved the beard which he had grown at some point between November 1866 and November 1867 as the scientists at the British Royal Academy were not taking him seriously due to his youthful appearance.
- The Doctor and Nyssa recall Adric's supposed death at the end of TV: Earthshock [+]Loading...["Earthshock (TV story)"].
- Tegan was left at Heathrow Airport in 1982, as depicted in TV: Time-Flight [+]Loading...["Time-Flight (TV story)"].
- The Doctor states that "time is circular", possibly alluding to AUDIO: Circular Time.
- The Doctor, Nyssa and Adric all speak of Logopolis and the Logopolitans, from TV: Logopolis [+]Loading...["Logopolis (TV story)"].
- Thomas Brewster stole the TARDIS on 14 November 1867, as heard in AUDIO: The Haunting of Thomas Brewster [+]Loading...["The Haunting of Thomas Brewster (audio story)"].
- The Doctor is reluctant to ask the renegade Time Lady Iris Wildthyme for assistance. Later in his fifth incarnation, the Doctor would encounter Iris on Excelis in AUDIO: Excelis Dawns [+]Loading...["Excelis Dawns (audio story)"]. According to Iris in that story, she had previously spent one Christmas with the Doctor, Adric, Nyssa and Tegan Jovanka. She came to dislike Tegan, describing her as "that shrill Australian woman."
- In his seventh incarnation, the Doctor would meet Adric on one further occasion in PROSE: Cold Fusion [+]Loading...["Cold Fusion (novel)"]. Those events occurred shortly after the events of TV: Castrovalva [+]Loading...["Castrovalva (TV story)"] and therefore prior to Adric's apparent death from the perspective of his fifth incarnation, whom the Seventh Doctor also met on that occasion.
- The Doctor wishes, on meeting Adric's pet spider, that he would meet normal sized spiders for once. He previously encountered giant spiders in TV: Planet of the Spiders [+]Loading...["Planet of the Spiders (TV story)"].
External links[[edit] | [edit source]]
- Official The Boy that Time Forgot page at bigfinish.com
- The Boy That Time Forgot at the Doctor Who Reference Guide
- DisContinuity for The Boy That Time Forgot at Tetrapyriarbus - The DisContinuity Guide