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*At the discovery of [[Davros]]'s plan to destroy reality, following the orders of the [[Dalek Supreme]] they attack and subsequently exterminate their creator.''I hope not. That would be way too cliche. Its happened too many times before.
*At the discovery of [[Davros]]'s plan to destroy reality, following the orders of the [[Dalek Supreme]] they attack and subsequently exterminate their creator.''I hope not. That would be way too cliche. Its happened too many times before.


*Could it be that someone is utilizing the Trickster's Brigade's beetle on Donna to manipulate events (the Doctor even said that it was a big coincidence that he kept running into Donna)...either to save the Doctor's life or to ruin it? That would explain why the woman at the Shadow Proclamation still saw something on Donna's back, and the fact she said "sorry for your loss to come", IE, the alternate universe she created would be lost.
*Could it be that someone is utilizing the Trickster's Brigade's beetle on Donna to manipulate events (the Doctor even said that it was a big coincidence that he kept running into Donna)...either to save the Doctor's life or to ruin it? That would explain why the woman at the Shadow Proclamation still saw something on Donna's back, and the fact she said "sorry for your loss to come", IE, the alternate universe she created would be lost.'' Yes Donna may possibly still be in her own alternate universe. I suggested before that she may still be in the library computer''


=== Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors ===
=== Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors ===

Revision as of 21:45, 4 July 2008

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The ending approaches... People and Planets and Stars will become dust... and the dust will become atoms and the atoms will become... nothing. This is my ultimate victory! The destruction of reality itself!!Davros


This is the 13th and final episode of Series 4 and will feature 6 companions of the Doctor. It is a continued on a cliffhanger from Episode 12.

Synopsis

The entire universe is in danger as the Daleks activate their master plan, and enslave 21st century Earth. The Doctor is helpless, and even the TARDIS faces destruction. The only hope lies with the Doctor's secret army of companions– but as they join forces to battle Davros himself, the prophecy declares that one of them will die.

Cast

Production crew

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References

Story notes

  • According to DWM this is the biggest finale of Doctor Who ever.
  • Blue Peter presenter Gethin Jones operates a Dalek in this episode, returning to Doctor Who since his brief appearance as a Cyberman in The Age of Steel.
  • This will be the longest series finale at 65 minutes long, longer even than the Christmas specials, although Voyage of the Damned was 71 minutes.
  • According to an interview with Billie Piper in DWM, this episode is guaranteed to "make you cry".

Ratings

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Rumours

  • Dalek Caan foretells of "everlasting death for the most faithful companion". In the season 2 finale, Rose's departure to a parallel universe is presented to the audience as her "death". Perhaps "everlasting death" implies that she will be permanently stuck in that universe. This seems very likely as there has been no indication that Billie Piper will be in the 2009 specials or the fifth series. It is possible that "everlasting death" also refers to the fact she may be permanently dead in the literal sense, as opposed to just living in a parallel universe, though this scenario seems unlikely, as photos showing Rose and the Doctor at Bad Wolf Bay suggest she survives. Though these photos may just be the first Bad Wolf Bay scene, re-shot, considering Doomsday's final scene had to be re-shot for The Runaway Bride due to a change in the cinematographers. Also, it would be bad writing to bring Rose back and than kill her off after only two episodes. The [Bad Wolf Bay] pictures are probably of the Doctor giving Rose one final goodbye in the same fashion as in Doomsday
  • Davros' proclamation of turning all reality in to dust, sounds similar to what Rose did when she absorbed the time vortex. Perhaps Davros has been influenced with this. The quote above is also similar to what Rose said after lookiing into the heart of the TARDIS.
  • The Doctor's perceived regeneration is actually a disguised Dalek transmat, which forms part of a plot by Davros to bring the Doctor to the Crucible. (Another clue that the Doctor may not regenerate yet is the fact that River Song recognizes the 10th Doctor, indicating that he meets her before he regenerates. A further clue (speculated support, not proof) would be the published list of actors to feature in the next episode - according to the BBC, it is still David Tennant Yet another, more conclusive clue, is that DT is appearing in all four specials in 2009: However the 'specials' could be an impressive misdirection to cover the fact of DT leaving the show in 2009 and there really will be a full series in 2009).
  • The Osterhagen key is a time machine. Martha knew it would change time completely if she used it.Harriet Jones also knows this.Martha saves the doctor from being exterminated- Jack however may use his vortex manipulator to save the doctor.
  • There are rumours that Harriet Jones is imprisoned,instead of exterminated as it appeared. RTD said that a female we all know very well will die. This is likely to have been Harriet Jones, as every time she introduces herself, the response is "Yes, we know who you are". We know from the static the others received, that Jones' computer was destroyed. This does not tell us anything about what happened to her. However, Harriet Jones is not a 'faithful companion' as the prophecy predicted as the doctor was deliberately responsible for her downfall as P.M. Besides, Caan's mentioning of the companion's death is after Harriet is attacked by the Daleks. Russell T Davies confirmed on This Morning that Harriet Jones is dead. But how can you trust him :P
  • Gallifrey is restored. Highly unlikely. Every reference to the loss of Gallifrey is that it was destroyed (or "burned"), not missing as the other planets are. In addition, all 27 missing planets were identified at the Shadow Proclamation (presumably - three of them were speculations of the Doctor's behalf). However, it could be restored like Davros, albeit at the cost of someone's sanity.
  • Rose dies. Unlikely, as her farewell to the Doctor and Donna has been filmed showing them at Bad Wolf Bay. However she is seen in the same clothing as Doomsday. Perhaps the Doctor takes the opportunity of the reopened fractures in time to go see Rose after she dies to finish telling her how he feels.
  • Donna dies. This had been foreshadowed in Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead, although Donna did already "die" in Turn Left. But then there was the "Sorry for your loss" line in The Stolen Earth, this could be Donna's memory loss. Another possibility ; facing death could also be interpreted as facing the death of a person close to you. So perhaps the companion who faces death is Donna because her grandfather might die ? In that way she faces death and has a good reason to stay at home. This might also be a good explanation for the remarks about her loss.
  • Martha dies. Possible as the weapon she has (The Osterhagen key) is rumoured to be a suicide weapon. Oooh, a long shot. Martha would take something that would be suicidal, for herself or for the world.... no, too far a shot.
  • Assuming the ambiguous theories of a 'Botched Regeneration' are plausible, we could be seeing an early version of the Valeyard. In The Trial of a Time Lord, the Valeyard is seen as an incarnation of the potentially evil side of the Doctor between the twelfth and thirteenth regenerations. Though a couple of regenerations early, the "Osterhagen key" roughly translates as 'graveyard' or 'boneyard' (insults that the Sixth Doctor used against the Valeyard in 'The Trial of a Time Lord').
  • K-9 makes an appearance. Likely as we know Sarah Jane Smith survives, and K-9 could save her.
  • Donna is a Time Lady, she learns of this and travels back to the time war to resurrect the Time Lords. Then she Loses her memory or goes insane and stays on earth never knowing what has happened . Unlikely, the Time War is "time-locked", so nothing can interfere. Unless she does what Dalek Caan did, then the second point here would probably happen too, but how she finds out how to go is beyond me. And probably her.
  • The Doctor's hand is still in the jar, and is still bubbling, as we were pointedly reminded in a shot near the start of the previous episode. This could prevent him changing form, or affect the regeneration in some fashion. However, in the past it has only signaled the presence of other Time Lords.
  • Sylvester McCoy to make a surprise reappearance... He was interviewed as part of Doctor Who Confidential for "The Stolen Earth" in his seventh Doctor costume, whereas Peter Davison was interviewed in "Civilian" clothing, rather than his cricket gear of the fifth Doctor. - perhaps an unsubtle hint relating to a botched/inverted regeneration. We've never seen the Doctor executed by a Dalek before (or have we?), perhaps he could go back a few incarnations? Sylvester McCoy wasn't wearing any version of his 7th Doctor costume in Doctor Who Confidential, although his hat is possibly the same one (as it originally belonged to him). The block writing used for the "to be continued" at the end credits is reminiscent of Sylvester McCoy era. It is possible that McCoy plays the Doctor from Pete's World.
  • Dalek Caan in the previous episode talks of the coming Doctor as the "threefold man". This could give us a clue. We may well have three doctors in this episode. Perhaps this could include the Doctor's Daughter; Jenny, as she is from the Doctor, and therefore a part of The Doctor himself. However Jenny will most likely not appear in this episode.
  • In The Stolen Earth when Donna is sitting on the stairs of the Shadow Proclamation she is seen wearing a large black ring, very possibly the same ring that was the Master's. Although it is unlikely he will appear, it may have something to do with the fact that it will be Donna's last episode. The Master's ring was VERY different to the one Donna was wearing. The Master's was green, whereas Donna's was black.
  • When the Sub Wave network starts, there is a tone similar to that used by the Master's Archangel Network in the Series 3 finale, all possible hints at Donna having some level of involvement with The Master. The drumming sound when Donna is on the stairs is a heartbeat, possible a slight echoed beat of two hearts (unlikely), but it's not the same as the Master's beat. It was Donna's heart beating in her ears as near as I can understand.
  • As Sarah Jane is about to be exterminated Mickey suddenly teleports and saves her while Jackie does the same with Torchwood.
  • Sarah Jane, Jackie and Mickey Smith allow themselves to be captured and taken to the Crucible in order to find the Doctor. An exclusive clip on the Doctor Who website shows Sarah Jane, Mickey and Jackie being taken as hostages by the Daleks with the rest of the captured humans.
  • Through the regeneration process the Doctor's hand turns into another DT and one DT leaves with Rose at the end of the episode This would support the pictures on Youtube in which two photos have the Doctor(blue suit) and Rose and the Doctor(brown suit), Donna and TARDIS. Both photos show the Doctor facing different ways on what seems to be Bad Wolf Bay. Although the idea seems plausible, it would generally make bad writing or create paradoxes. Or maybe the photos take place between different points in time, so the Doctor has enough time to change his suit. Or maybe one of the photos is a publicity photo. Also, Rose is wearing the same clothes she was wearing when she said goodbye to the Doctor. Actually, the clothes are her outfit for series 4, which is slightly different (purple jacket, mauve shirt). Maybe the Doctor is experiencing post-regenerative trauma and reliving his worst memories, which would explain two Doctors.
  • It has been said from a reliable source that there will be two DT doctors except one will have a single heart. It very well maybe that one is an impostor, or his hand in the jar becomes the second and stops him from regenerating.
  • The Tenth Doctor will somehow be joined by two other incarnations, most likely the Ninth, and possibly the Eight or Seventh Doctors. This would mean that Chris Eccleston would make a guest appearance. If the Eight Doctor is to show up, this would most likely be Paul McGann. It's likely that this is the incarnation of The Doctor that participated in the Time War, eventually regenerating into the Ninth Doctor.
  • RTD has said that Sarah Jane will get to meet Davros (although they were both in Genesis of the Daleks with Tom Baker), and also that The Doctor and Rose will finish the conversation they last held on Bad Wolf Bay. There will also be a speech from the Doctor to his companions where he tells them how much they all mean to him.
  • The Fortune Teller if you noticed from Turn Left was weraing a ring very similar to the masters in. This could play a part.
  • Dalek Supreme orders the extermination of the source of the signal. This would be the computer not Harriet Jones.
  • Donna goes back into the Time War and ressurects Gallifrey. Possible as she is sympathised for "The loss yet to come", possibly meaning her sanity, and leaked photos on YouTube show the Doctor carrying Donna back to her house where Wilf meets him and carries her in. Also it has been rumoured that Donna loses her memory. This may be the Doctor's doing, because travelling into the Time War would send her insane, if the Doctor were to wipe her memmory, this may make her sanity return, at the expense of her memory. This may be the best the Doctor can do for her.
  • Possibly we see the aliens on the other stolen planets fighting against the Daleks. If this is true, we may see cameo appearances of the Pyroviles, Adipose or the Abzorbaloff's species.
  • The Doctor will regenerate into a new Doctor in this episode. The details of the episode have been kept under tight wraps by Russel T Davis. Footage leaked on the internet of the 'supposed' filming of the 2008 Christmas Special were 'staged' by Davis in order to revert attention away from Tennant's secret departure, and the introduction of the new Doctor. The most likely suggestion. This would also confirm the appearance of 'two' Doctors, David Tennant and the new actor. So, who is this alleged new actor? Where is the proof? it is jimmy carr according to videos on youtube. Who is jimmy carr and why does everyone believe what they see on youtube?
  • At the discovery of Davros's plan to destroy reality, following the orders of the Dalek Supreme they attack and subsequently exterminate their creator.I hope not. That would be way too cliche. Its happened too many times before.
  • Could it be that someone is utilizing the Trickster's Brigade's beetle on Donna to manipulate events (the Doctor even said that it was a big coincidence that he kept running into Donna)...either to save the Doctor's life or to ruin it? That would explain why the woman at the Shadow Proclamation still saw something on Donna's back, and the fact she said "sorry for your loss to come", IE, the alternate universe she created would be lost. Yes Donna may possibly still be in her own alternate universe. I suggested before that she may still be in the library computer

Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors

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Continuity

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DVD and Other releases


See also

External links

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