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=== The Winters problem ===
=== The Winters problem ===
One of the more famous presidential conundrums is that caused by [[Russell T Davies]] calling [[Arthur Coleman Winters]] the "Preisdent-elect" during ''[[The Sound of Drums]]''.
One of the more famous presidential conundrums is that caused by [[Russell T Davies]] calling [[Arthur Coleman Winters]] the "President-elect" during ''[[The Sound of Drums]]''.


While there are many differences between the real world and the [[DWU]], such a statement is particularly difficult to understand, just within the context of DWU narratives alone. It's hard to see how he could, in the spring/summer in which ''Drums'' appears to occur, be the President-elect, when ''[[Day of the Moon (TV story)|Day of the Moon]]'' give a very clear indication that [[Richard Nixon]]'s presidency began about six months prior to the [[Moon]] landing, which is positively dated to [[July]] [[1969]]. He also seems to have been elected after another president mentioned in ''[[The Christmas Invasion]]'', but before [[Barack Obama]], who is actually seen and heard in ''[[The End of Time (TV story)|The End of Time]]''.  The timing of all this is simply impossible to figure out — not to mention the fact that [[Trinity Wells]] says in ''Drums'' that Winters arrived in the [[UK]] on [[Air Force One]] — which wouldn't be the case if he were merely the President-''Elect''.  Eventually, in a commentary, {{which}} Davies admitted that he had simply been wrong to call Winters the "President-elect" — which makes that an ignorable production error.
While there are many differences between the real world and the [[DWU]], such a statement is particularly difficult to understand, just within the context of DWU narratives alone. It's hard to see how he could, in the spring/summer in which ''Drums'' appears to occur, be the President-elect, when ''[[Day of the Moon (TV story)|Day of the Moon]]'' give a very clear indication that [[Richard Nixon]]'s presidency began about six months prior to the [[Moon]] landing, which is positively dated to [[July]] [[1969]]. He also seems to have been elected after another president mentioned in ''[[The Christmas Invasion]]'', but before [[Barack Obama]], who is actually seen and heard in ''[[The End of Time (TV story)|The End of Time]]''.  The timing of all this is simply impossible to figure out — not to mention the fact that [[Trinity Wells]] says in ''Drums'' that Winters arrived in the [[UK]] on [[Air Force One]] — which wouldn't be the case if he were merely the President-''Elect''.  Eventually, in a commentary, {{which}} Davies admitted that he had simply been wrong to call Winters the "President-elect" — which makes that an ignorable production error.

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The President of the United States of America was the political leader of that North American nation, elected — according to American Peri Brown — by ordinary citizens once every four years. (AUDIO: The Eye of the Scorpion)

The president's traditional residence was the White House in Washington, DC. Arguably the most famous room in the White House was the Oval Office, the president's symbolic seat of power. By at least 1969, the president was regarded as one of the most powerful people on Earth. (TV: Day of the Moon)

Indeed, it was plausible to infer the the long-lasting impact of the office from the fact that the White House was the official residence from the President of Earth from the 26th century (AUDIO: Scorpius) until at least 4041, (COMIC: Return of the Klytode) long after the United States had become part of a world government.

In 2011, Dr. Samantha Madigan told Clyde Langer that the famous Native American curse, the Curse of Tippecanoe, was supposedly placed on the US Presidents. (TV: The Curse of Clyde Langer)

List of presidents

Several American presidents were known to the Doctor and his friends. However, information on most of these figures — even basic details such as their terms of office — was sketchy, as direct contact with American presidents was unusual. Because of the paucity of data, it was possible to list the presidents accurately only in simple alphabetic order.

Wax replicas of many past U.S. Presidents, including George Washington, John F. Kennedy, Richard Nixon, Abraham Lincoln and Herbert Hoover. (TV: Spearhead from Space)

Timing

The Doctor had some rough idea as to the dates certain presidents served. He could place Abraham Lincoln in the early-to-mid 1860s, as the Fifth Doctor prevented his assassination just days before he was shot by John Wilkes Booth in 1865. He likely would have been able to place James Buchanan as Lincoln's predecessor, since Buchanan was widely seen as a contrast to Lincoln, and was a topic of conversation for people whom the Fifth Doctor knew. (PROSE: Blood and Hope) The Sixth Doctor had detailed historical knowledge of that assassination when he and Evelyn Smythe travelled to Washington DC just before Lincoln lost his life. (AUDIO: Assassin in the Limelight) Similarly, the Ninth Doctor was in Dallas when Kennedy was killed; clearly he knew the time of the Kennedy assassination. (TV: Rose)

The Eighth Doctor once gave a time-ordered list of presidents, saying that if one started in the 1970s with Jimmy Carter, the list would continue: Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Tom Dering, Bruce Springsteen and Norris. (PROSE: Interference - Book One) Certainly, the Eighth Doctor would've been able to place Tom Dering at the end of the 1990s, since he and Samantha Jones spent a lot of time with that president investigating the Station Nine incident and other related events. (PROSE: Option Lock)

The Tenth Doctor spouted textbook knowledge of Herbert Hoover, accurately giving Hoover's number in the order of presidents, as well as his inaugural year. (TV: Daleks in Manhattan) In 1958, he referenced Eisenhower's name when asking if Colonel Stark knew about the Dreamland base, also known as Area 51, showing the Doctor knew he was President at that time. (TV: Dreamland) He also witnessed Arthur Coleman Winters' death on board the Valiant, as well as Barack Obama's transformation into the Master. (TV: The Sound of Drums, The End of Time.

By contrast, the Eleventh Doctor seemed fuzzier than River Song on who had been president in 1969 — though this could have been because 1969 was an inaugural year, a year with two presidents. (TV: The Impossible Astronaut / Day of the Moon)

The Second Doctor was once encouraged to run for president (COMIC: Martha the Mechanical Housemaid)

If he was being genuine when he expressed confusion over the incumbent president in 1969, it's possible that he merely forgot what his second incarnation likely knew. Following the successful deterrence of a Quark invasion, the Second Doctor was advanced as a possible candidate for president, in what would have been the 1972 elections (COMIC: Martha the Mechanical Housemaid) — which would have pit the Second Doctor against Richard Nixon's re-election campaign.

Alternate histories

There were a few people who were presidents in alternate timelines, such as Benjamin Franklin. (AUDIO: Seasons of Fear, Neverland)

Behind the scenes

Limiting term length

Exact term length of individual presidents is pretty fuzzy, perhaps because it is irrelevant to most narratives where presidents appear. However, Peri does nail down the generic term to four years when Erimem asks her how the American's leaders are chosen in The Eye of the Scorpion.

The Winters problem

One of the more famous presidential conundrums is that caused by Russell T Davies calling Arthur Coleman Winters the "President-elect" during The Sound of Drums.

While there are many differences between the real world and the DWU, such a statement is particularly difficult to understand, just within the context of DWU narratives alone. It's hard to see how he could, in the spring/summer in which Drums appears to occur, be the President-elect, when Day of the Moon give a very clear indication that Richard Nixon's presidency began about six months prior to the Moon landing, which is positively dated to July 1969. He also seems to have been elected after another president mentioned in The Christmas Invasion, but before Barack Obama, who is actually seen and heard in The End of Time. The timing of all this is simply impossible to figure out — not to mention the fact that Trinity Wells says in Drums that Winters arrived in the UK on Air Force One — which wouldn't be the case if he were merely the President-Elect. Eventually, in a commentary, [which?] Davies admitted that he had simply been wrong to call Winters the "President-elect" — which makes that an ignorable production error.

The Wilderness Years

Another problem area for presidential terms is in the novels which appeared during the 1990s. Here, a variety of not-particularly-reconcilable problems ensue. Not only did some of these "prose presidents" never serve in real life, but they do pretty massively conflict with each other. Most novels seem to agree that presidential order conforms to real history through Bill Clinton's first term, but thereafter, there are a variety of other people — and rather too many of them to all be serving four year terms. It is completely impossible to fit all the presidents from Clinton to Obama posited by RTD and "Wilderness Years" authors into any kind of sensible timeline.

 
George H. W. Bush, elected 1988
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Bill Clinton, elected 1992
 
Carroll posited to be president in 1994, in a story written many years prior
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Tom Dering
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Bruce Springsteen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Norris. You'd be on pretty solid ground drawing a line from Clinton to Norris, given evidence from the Eighth Doctor Adventures and Virgin New Adventures.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Felix Mather, time unknown but when space shuttle Atlantis still in service
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
George W. Bush, won office in 2000. Unnamed in DWU fiction, but possibly the president to whom Harriet Jones speaks in The Christmas Invasion. (Certainly the intended gag of the script is that Jones is talking to Bush.)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Arthur Coleman Winters, if you accept that he was actually president and not "president-elect". Given his bellicose portrayal in The Sound of Drums, it's also possible that Harriet Jones was talking to him in The Christmas Invasion. Certainly, Winters seems to have the temperament to start unilateral wars, as implied by Jones' line in Invasion.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Barack Obama, elected 2008 in real life, but we're not quite sure how or when he assumed office in the DWU — only that he's in the White House by The End of Time.
 
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