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|alias = Joe Smith | |alias = Joe Smith | ||
|species = Were Lord | |species = Were Lord | ||
|job = | |job = Musician | ||
|partner = Peri Brown | |partner = Peri Brown | ||
|father = Lycaon | |||
|sister = Selene (I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day) | |||
|child = Paul (The Baby Awakes) | |||
|child2 = Janey (The Baby Awakes) | |||
|child3 = Michael (The Baby Awakes) | |||
|origin = | |origin = | ||
|first = Blood on Santa's Claw (audio story) | |first = Blood on Santa's Claw (audio story) | ||
|appearances = [[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Baby Awakes (audio story)|The Baby Awakes]]'', ''[[I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day (audio story)|I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day]]'', ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'' | |appearances = [[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Baby Awakes (audio story)|The Baby Awakes]]'', ''[[I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day (audio story)|I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day]]'', ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'' | ||
|voice actor = Luke Allen-Gale | |voice actor = Luke Allen-Gale | ||
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'''Joseph "Joe" Carnaby''' was a [[ | '''Joseph "Joe" Carnaby''' was a [[Were Lord]] who lived several [[Millennium|millennia]] among [[human]]s on the [[planet]] [[Earth]]. A member of a [[species]] that once served as [[soldier]]s for the [[Time Lord]]s in the [[Eternal War|Vampire Wars]] and had the ability to [[Regeneration|regenerate]], he first took an interest in the [[renegade Time Lord]] known as "[[The Doctor]]" in the [[12th century]]. Over the [[Century|centuries]] and using different faces, he frequently took advantage of the Doctor's habit of saving others to gain access to [[The Doctor's TARDIS]], where he learned that the Were Lords were [[Prisoner|imprisoned]] and destroyed in the [[59th century]] by [[human]]ity from the [[TARDIS]] [[history]] banks. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') | ||
Knowing that only a Time Lord could re-write history and get away with it, Joe formulated a plan to use the Doctor to his own means to stop the end of the Were Lords. After secretly learning how to [[pilot]] the TARDIS from the secondary [[TARDIS control room|control room]], ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') Joe lived in the [[1980s]] ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Blood on Santa's Claw (audio story)|Blood on Santa's Claw]]'') and was a [[musician]] and [[pop star]]. During this time he met [[Peri Brown]], a [[companion]] of the [[Sixth Doctor]], when she was [[Dance|dancing]] in the audience while he performed for [[Top of the Pops]]. Joe became her [[boyfriend]], ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day (audio story)|I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day]]'') hoping to get closer to the Doctor to enact his plan. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') | |||
Eventually, Peri asked him to join them on their [[Time travel|travels]] through [[time]] and [[space]]. After two other trips in the ship, Joe began secretly piloting the TARDIS to points of his choosing in the 59th century. Pretending to be an inexperienced time traveller, he landed Peri and the Doctor into situations where they acted on their desires to help others and inadvertantly dismantled parts of the Earth plan to put down the Were Lords in the process. Finally, he brought them to his family's [[prison]] on [[Tate Galactic]], where the Doctor freed the Were Lords, not realising who they truly were, and Joe revealed he was secretly one of them. The Doctor and Peri teamed up to stop the Were Lords with allies they had met on the earlier adventures engineered by Joe, including his and Peri's [[son]] [[Paul (The Baby Awakes)|Paul]]. They succeeding in thwarting the plan to alter history, and Peri killed Joe with their son's weapon. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') | |||
When they landed on [[Tate | ==Biography== | ||
===Early life=== | |||
Joe Carnaby was one of [[Were Lord]], a [[species]] of [[Werewolf|lycanthropic]] [[soldier]]s with the ability to [[Regeneration|regenerate]] who were created by the [[Time Lord]]s of [[Gallifrey]] to fight in the [[Eternal War|Vampire Wars]]. The [[son]] of the first Were Lord, [[Lord]] [[Lycaon]], and the [[Sibling|brother]] of [[Selene (I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day)|Selene]], his people [[Desertion|deserted]] the war and settled in [[Greece]] on [[Earth]] in 1500 [[BC]]. From that [[time]], the Were Lords became [[myth]]s and [[legend]]s and were [[Religion|worshipped]] by the early [[human]]s. Joe and his people went on to live secretly among the humans for [[Millennium|thousands]] of [[year]]s. In the [[12th century]], he took notice of the [[renegade Time Lord]] known as "[[The Doctor]]," who frequently visited Earth in his [[Time travel|travels]] through [[space]] and time. He studied the Doctor for [[Century|centuries]], and on many occasions convinced him to let him inside [[The Doctor's TARDIS|his TARDIS]]. In one instance, Joe posed as a peasant who the Doctor believed he had rescued from the [[Salem witch trials]] in [[1693]]. In another, he pretended to be a wounded soldier from [[World War I]] that took a very long time to heal. During one of these deceptions, he learned from the [[TARDIS]] [[history]] banks that the Were Lords would be betrayed and destroyed by humanity in the [[59th century]]. After this revelation, Joe formulated a plan to change history. Knowing only a Time Lord could change history and get away with it, he secretly learned how to control the Doctor's TARDIS from its secondary [[TARDIS control room|control room]]. With this skill, Joe intended to gain access to the Doctor's TARDIS and secretly [[pilot]] it to places of his choosing. At these places, he expected that the Doctor would act on his desire to help the people there, and in the process unknowingly dismantle the Earth government's plans to put down the Were Lords. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') | |||
By the [[1980s]], ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Blood on Santa's Claw (audio story)|Blood on Santa's Claw]]'') Joe lived in a [[flat]] in [[London]]'s [[Chelsea]] district, where he worked as a successful [[musician]] and [[pop star]]. During his career, he filmed a variety of music videos ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day (audio story)|I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day]]'') and at some point became acquainted with [[Paul McCartney]] of the [[The Beatles]]. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Blood on Santa's Claw (audio story)|Blood on Santa's Claw]]'') He performed at [[Live Aid]] and on [[Top of the Pops]] and was so successful that in the [[59th century]] and its proliferation of [[religion]]s, he was one of many pop stars worshipped as a [[God|deity]]. While doing a performance on Top of the Pops, Joe met [[Peri Brown]], who he saw [[Dance|dancing]] in the audience. Because of her status as a [[companion]] of the [[Sixth Doctor]], ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day (audio story)|I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day]]'') he deliberately grew closer to her to advance his plans, ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') eventually became Peri's [[boyfriend]]. Their relationship advanced to a point where Peri asked him to join her and the Doctor on their travels through time. He agreed, and the night before he left with them in the TARDIS, the pair spent the evening together at the [[Gargoyle Club]], where they shared a few [[Alcohol|drinks]] and danced together. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day (audio story)|I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day]]'') | |||
===Travels with the Doctor=== | |||
After two trips with the Doctor and Peri, Joe used his skill of piloting the TARDIS to secretly bring them to the Earth [[colony]] planet [[Naxios]] in the 59th century. Here, he planned to for them to free the [[Slavery|enslaved]] animals who were being forced to [[mine]] the [[silver]] that was used to build the weapons employed against the Were Lords. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') Upon first exiting the TARDIS, the trio found themselves at the mouth of one of the silver mines. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Blood on Santa's Claw (audio story)|Blood on Santa's Claw]]'') Knowing the silver would expose his true identity, Joe faked a fear of tunnels to avoid entering, ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') and waited at the mouth of the tunnel, where a pair of waistcoat wearing animals named [[Toad (Blood on Santa's Claw)|Toad]] and [[Ratty]] found him and invited him to [[tea]]. Joe accepted the offer and stay with them until they were called to work in the mines. He was reuinted with Peri and the Doctor a few [[hour]]s later, true to Joe's expectations, they meddled in Naxios affairs and successfully liberated the animal slaves. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Blood on Santa's Claw (audio story)|Blood on Santa's Claw]]'') | |||
After the trimph on Naxios, Joe directed the TARDIS to the [[Ishtar institute]]. At the Ishtar institute, prospective [[parent]]s could test a prospective child, by a technology that implanted [[embryo]]s into [[incubator shell]]s and determined how the child would be at any age and test various scenarios. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Baby Awakes (audio story)|The Baby Awakes]]'') Secretly, rejected embyros were being funnelled towards a government project where the [[army]] turned them into [[supersoldier]]s with [[Mercury (element)|mercury]] [[blood]] specifically engineered to combat the Were Lords. In coming here, Joe intended for the Doctor and Peri to dismantle the project. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') They found [[Shreela]], one of the discarded children who wanted to expose the Ishtar insitute, wandering outside the perimeter fence. After bringing her into the TARDIS and recovering what was left of Shreela's memories, the Doctor chose to investigate the institute. Peri and Joe posed as "Peri and Joe Smith," a couple interested in having babies designed by the Ishtar institute. The plan was for them to discard one of their children so that the Doctor could track what became of it. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Baby Awakes (audio story)|The Baby Awakes]]'') | |||
The institute engineered three children for Joe and Peri: [[Paul (The Baby Awakes)|Paul]], [[Janey (The Baby Awakes)|Janey]] and [[Michael (The Baby Awakes)|Michael]]. After testing several scenarios with the kids, including a day at the [[beach]] and reading [[Brer Rabbit]] stories, time came to give one up. While Joe showed very little care or concern, Peri was very distressed at the thought of casting away one of her children and viewed them like real family. Eventually, she convinced Joe to try one more scenario with the children as teenagers. When [[Cordeline]], the assistant head of Ishtar, tried to initiate the aging process, things went seriously awry and the children turned into large, furry monsters. Although Peri and Joe managed to escape, the children attacked one of the other Ishtar institute customers and disappeared into the surrounding forest. While Peri was confused and frightened by what happened, ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Baby Awakes (audio story)|The Baby Awakes]]'') Joe knew the real reason that Paul, Janey and Michael changed so drastically was because of his Were Lord DNA. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') He deflected, by suggesting the transformation could have been the result os something contracted by Peri on her extensive travels. Following this disaster, a confrontation occurred in which Shreela confronted the institute and exposed what they had done. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Baby Awakes (audio story)|The Baby Awakes]]'') The outcry against it cause the project to be shut down and the supersoldiers returned to their families, effectively putting an end to the soldiers engineered to counteract the Were Lords. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') | |||
===Freeing the Were Lords and death=== | |||
When they landed on [[Tate Galactic]], Joe tried to convince Peri that living the life she lived with the Doctor would eventually get her killed. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day (audio story)|I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day]]'') Peri soon deduced that he was, in reality, one of the [[Were Lord]]s and the one responsible for their recent journeys, so she launched both of them out of an airlock. When he and [[Selene (I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day)|Selene]] confronted her and the Doctor, Peri killed him with their son Paul's weapon. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') | |||
==Personality== | |||
Joe was a relaxed person who was enthusistic about [[music]] and cared little about going out of his ways to meddle in other people's affairs. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Blood on Santa's Claw (audio story)|Blood on Santa's Claw]]'') Although he was in a romantic relationship with Peri, he showed little of the deep empathy for others that she did, often seeing indifferent to things that affected her greatly. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Baby Awakes (audio story)|The Baby Awakes]]'') Underneath this exeterior, Joe was a manipulative person that was willing to go through long and elaborate plans to get what he wanted. The care for Peri he pretended to have was merely a facade and he had no qualms about using her for his own means. He showed disdain for the concern she had for helping others and felt both she and the Doctor were foolish for playing along with his manipulations. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') | |||
==Skills== | |||
Joe was a musician, skilled and charismatic enough to gain widespread and enduring fame. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day (audio story)|I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day]]'') In addition to his musical talent, he also taught himself how to operate the TARDIS from its secondary control room. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'') | |||
==Behind the scenes== | |||
In ''[[Brightly Shone The Moon That Night (audio story)|Brightly Shone The Moon That Night]]'', Joe mentions that he had lived among humans for 7,000 years. However, he initially joined Peri and the Doctor in 1985, which would only be about 3,500 years since the Were Lords arrived on Earth. It's not clear if this was an error, if Joe was referring to the original timeline where all the Were Lords died in the 59th century or if it suggests complexities in his own personal timeline that were not fully explained. | |||
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Revision as of 07:58, 4 February 2020
Joseph "Joe" Carnaby was a Were Lord who lived several millennia among humans on the planet Earth. A member of a species that once served as soldiers for the Time Lords in the Vampire Wars and had the ability to regenerate, he first took an interest in the renegade Time Lord known as "The Doctor" in the 12th century. Over the centuries and using different faces, he frequently took advantage of the Doctor's habit of saving others to gain access to The Doctor's TARDIS, where he learned that the Were Lords were imprisoned and destroyed in the 59th century by humanity from the TARDIS history banks. (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night)
Knowing that only a Time Lord could re-write history and get away with it, Joe formulated a plan to use the Doctor to his own means to stop the end of the Were Lords. After secretly learning how to pilot the TARDIS from the secondary control room, (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night) Joe lived in the 1980s (AUDIO: Blood on Santa's Claw) and was a musician and pop star. During this time he met Peri Brown, a companion of the Sixth Doctor, when she was dancing in the audience while he performed for Top of the Pops. Joe became her boyfriend, (AUDIO: I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day) hoping to get closer to the Doctor to enact his plan. (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night)
Eventually, Peri asked him to join them on their travels through time and space. After two other trips in the ship, Joe began secretly piloting the TARDIS to points of his choosing in the 59th century. Pretending to be an inexperienced time traveller, he landed Peri and the Doctor into situations where they acted on their desires to help others and inadvertantly dismantled parts of the Earth plan to put down the Were Lords in the process. Finally, he brought them to his family's prison on Tate Galactic, where the Doctor freed the Were Lords, not realising who they truly were, and Joe revealed he was secretly one of them. The Doctor and Peri teamed up to stop the Were Lords with allies they had met on the earlier adventures engineered by Joe, including his and Peri's son Paul. They succeeding in thwarting the plan to alter history, and Peri killed Joe with their son's weapon. (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night)
Biography
Early life
Joe Carnaby was one of Were Lord, a species of lycanthropic soldiers with the ability to regenerate who were created by the Time Lords of Gallifrey to fight in the Vampire Wars. The son of the first Were Lord, Lord Lycaon, and the brother of Selene, his people deserted the war and settled in Greece on Earth in 1500 BC. From that time, the Were Lords became myths and legends and were worshipped by the early humans. Joe and his people went on to live secretly among the humans for thousands of years. In the 12th century, he took notice of the renegade Time Lord known as "The Doctor," who frequently visited Earth in his travels through space and time. He studied the Doctor for centuries, and on many occasions convinced him to let him inside his TARDIS. In one instance, Joe posed as a peasant who the Doctor believed he had rescued from the Salem witch trials in 1693. In another, he pretended to be a wounded soldier from World War I that took a very long time to heal. During one of these deceptions, he learned from the TARDIS history banks that the Were Lords would be betrayed and destroyed by humanity in the 59th century. After this revelation, Joe formulated a plan to change history. Knowing only a Time Lord could change history and get away with it, he secretly learned how to control the Doctor's TARDIS from its secondary control room. With this skill, Joe intended to gain access to the Doctor's TARDIS and secretly pilot it to places of his choosing. At these places, he expected that the Doctor would act on his desire to help the people there, and in the process unknowingly dismantle the Earth government's plans to put down the Were Lords. (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night)
By the 1980s, (AUDIO: Blood on Santa's Claw) Joe lived in a flat in London's Chelsea district, where he worked as a successful musician and pop star. During his career, he filmed a variety of music videos (AUDIO: I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day) and at some point became acquainted with Paul McCartney of the The Beatles. (AUDIO: Blood on Santa's Claw) He performed at Live Aid and on Top of the Pops and was so successful that in the 59th century and its proliferation of religions, he was one of many pop stars worshipped as a deity. While doing a performance on Top of the Pops, Joe met Peri Brown, who he saw dancing in the audience. Because of her status as a companion of the Sixth Doctor, (AUDIO: I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day) he deliberately grew closer to her to advance his plans, (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night) eventually became Peri's boyfriend. Their relationship advanced to a point where Peri asked him to join her and the Doctor on their travels through time. He agreed, and the night before he left with them in the TARDIS, the pair spent the evening together at the Gargoyle Club, where they shared a few drinks and danced together. (AUDIO: I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day)
Travels with the Doctor
After two trips with the Doctor and Peri, Joe used his skill of piloting the TARDIS to secretly bring them to the Earth colony planet Naxios in the 59th century. Here, he planned to for them to free the enslaved animals who were being forced to mine the silver that was used to build the weapons employed against the Were Lords. (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night) Upon first exiting the TARDIS, the trio found themselves at the mouth of one of the silver mines. (AUDIO: Blood on Santa's Claw) Knowing the silver would expose his true identity, Joe faked a fear of tunnels to avoid entering, (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night) and waited at the mouth of the tunnel, where a pair of waistcoat wearing animals named Toad and Ratty found him and invited him to tea. Joe accepted the offer and stay with them until they were called to work in the mines. He was reuinted with Peri and the Doctor a few hours later, true to Joe's expectations, they meddled in Naxios affairs and successfully liberated the animal slaves. (AUDIO: Blood on Santa's Claw)
After the trimph on Naxios, Joe directed the TARDIS to the Ishtar institute. At the Ishtar institute, prospective parents could test a prospective child, by a technology that implanted embryos into incubator shells and determined how the child would be at any age and test various scenarios. (AUDIO: The Baby Awakes) Secretly, rejected embyros were being funnelled towards a government project where the army turned them into supersoldiers with mercury blood specifically engineered to combat the Were Lords. In coming here, Joe intended for the Doctor and Peri to dismantle the project. (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night) They found Shreela, one of the discarded children who wanted to expose the Ishtar insitute, wandering outside the perimeter fence. After bringing her into the TARDIS and recovering what was left of Shreela's memories, the Doctor chose to investigate the institute. Peri and Joe posed as "Peri and Joe Smith," a couple interested in having babies designed by the Ishtar institute. The plan was for them to discard one of their children so that the Doctor could track what became of it. (AUDIO: The Baby Awakes)
The institute engineered three children for Joe and Peri: Paul, Janey and Michael. After testing several scenarios with the kids, including a day at the beach and reading Brer Rabbit stories, time came to give one up. While Joe showed very little care or concern, Peri was very distressed at the thought of casting away one of her children and viewed them like real family. Eventually, she convinced Joe to try one more scenario with the children as teenagers. When Cordeline, the assistant head of Ishtar, tried to initiate the aging process, things went seriously awry and the children turned into large, furry monsters. Although Peri and Joe managed to escape, the children attacked one of the other Ishtar institute customers and disappeared into the surrounding forest. While Peri was confused and frightened by what happened, (AUDIO: The Baby Awakes) Joe knew the real reason that Paul, Janey and Michael changed so drastically was because of his Were Lord DNA. (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night) He deflected, by suggesting the transformation could have been the result os something contracted by Peri on her extensive travels. Following this disaster, a confrontation occurred in which Shreela confronted the institute and exposed what they had done. (AUDIO: The Baby Awakes) The outcry against it cause the project to be shut down and the supersoldiers returned to their families, effectively putting an end to the soldiers engineered to counteract the Were Lords. (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night)
Freeing the Were Lords and death
When they landed on Tate Galactic, Joe tried to convince Peri that living the life she lived with the Doctor would eventually get her killed. (AUDIO: I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day) Peri soon deduced that he was, in reality, one of the Were Lords and the one responsible for their recent journeys, so she launched both of them out of an airlock. When he and Selene confronted her and the Doctor, Peri killed him with their son Paul's weapon. (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night)
Personality
Joe was a relaxed person who was enthusistic about music and cared little about going out of his ways to meddle in other people's affairs. (AUDIO: Blood on Santa's Claw) Although he was in a romantic relationship with Peri, he showed little of the deep empathy for others that she did, often seeing indifferent to things that affected her greatly. (AUDIO: The Baby Awakes) Underneath this exeterior, Joe was a manipulative person that was willing to go through long and elaborate plans to get what he wanted. The care for Peri he pretended to have was merely a facade and he had no qualms about using her for his own means. He showed disdain for the concern she had for helping others and felt both she and the Doctor were foolish for playing along with his manipulations. (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night)
Skills
Joe was a musician, skilled and charismatic enough to gain widespread and enduring fame. (AUDIO: I Wish It Could Be Christmas Every Day) In addition to his musical talent, he also taught himself how to operate the TARDIS from its secondary control room. (AUDIO: Brightly Shone The Moon That Night)
Behind the scenes
In Brightly Shone The Moon That Night, Joe mentions that he had lived among humans for 7,000 years. However, he initially joined Peri and the Doctor in 1985, which would only be about 3,500 years since the Were Lords arrived on Earth. It's not clear if this was an error, if Joe was referring to the original timeline where all the Were Lords died in the 59th century or if it suggests complexities in his own personal timeline that were not fully explained.
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